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Posted: 12/12/2018 9:22:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:25:35 PM EDT
[#1]
Something...something...tier 1 military tactical something or another...
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:27:06 PM EDT
[#2]
Iirc once upon a time the fed tied highway funding to being a certain percentage white for uniformity and universal recognition.

It's cheaper to paint solid white and stripe than paint 2 colors.

Or it could be like the black and white cookie- it unites the races.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:27:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Vast majority of the ones here (southern California) are black/white.

CHP has a bunch of all white SUVs but that is abt it for non standard cars.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:27:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Because things aren't black & white. They're shades of gray. How many? 50?
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:29:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Because you can buy fancy sticker a lot cheaper the a 2 color paint job.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:29:38 PM EDT
[#6]
To make it harder to see and hide in a ditch from when you sneak out your bedroom window and go raise hell all night and eventually grow up and make run on sentences on Arfcom because you dont know any better.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:31:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Because it used to be that people painted them black and white so to be easily identified to allow the civilians to find them when they needed help. You know. To serve and protect.

Now they just want to ticket you and abuse their power. Easier to do that when they can sneak up on you in a black squad with low profile lights.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:31:43 PM EDT
[#8]
We buy black cars and then a white wrap is applied to certain parts as our cars are still fairly traditional black and white schemed.

Then what happens is we end up fighting with people against the cars and white wrap gets gouged like crazy so the car ends up looking like shit after a while haha
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:32:07 PM EDT
[#9]
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Because it used to be that people painted them black and white so to be easily identified to allow the civilians to find them when they needed help. You know. To serve and protect.

Now they just want to ticket you and abuse their power. Easier to do that when they can sneak up on you in a black squad with low profile lights.
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Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:32:33 PM EDT
[#10]
I've been a little irritated with the "ghost" cars lately. They have a matte clear sicker that says "sheriff" or "police" on the side, and are normal civilian cars or SUVs.

The visual presence of police forces is a big deterrent for crime, and people in distress need the easy visual.

I guess you have to get that radar revenue though.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:34:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Twenty years it was costing us an additional $500 per car to have the trunks and hoods painted red.
$500 per car goes a long way if re-directed to other budget stuff.
I imagine the cost would be even more now  if we still had two color paint jobs.

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Because it used to be that people painted them black and white so to be easily identified to allow the civilians to find them when they needed help. You know. To serve and protect.

Now they just want to ticket you and abuse their power. Easier to do that when they can sneak up on you in a black squad with low profile lights.
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I would not define ticketing you for an observed violation as "abuse of power".
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:34:03 PM EDT
[#12]
I would think the rise of cheap vinyl door graphics meant that every po-dunk and one stop light police force could have their own "custom" car graphics now.

No need to order a "stock" black and white and have cousin Leroy's auto body and mini golf paint a big gold star on the doors, now they can have awesome swoops and stripes!
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:34:55 PM EDT
[#13]
Why aren’t police cars still cars?

Forfeiture of drug money’s.

Yet we pay for the gas to feed a fleet of sawed off suburbans
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:35:01 PM EDT
[#14]
Houston's just switched over to black and white in the last 6 years.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:35:25 PM EDT
[#15]
Ours are still black and white
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:35:37 PM EDT
[#16]
Money would be my guess.

They all used to be brown until the early 2000’s in this area.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:35:57 PM EDT
[#17]
Our local department just went back to black and white.  They look very traditional but the cars are modern
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:36:21 PM EDT
[#18]
Mine were
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:36:28 PM EDT
[#19]
Toledo gang enforcement/SED cars

Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:36:30 PM EDT
[#20]
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Because you can buy fancy sticker a lot cheaper the a 2 color paint job.
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This right here.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:36:54 PM EDT
[#21]
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Why aren’t police cars still cars?

Forfeiture of drug money’s.

Yet we pay for the gas to feed a fleet of sawed off suburbans
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When was the last full sized rear wheel drive police car made by Detroit?
We carry a lot more gear than we did thirty years ago.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:37:06 PM EDT
[#22]
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Why aren’t police cars still cars?

Forfeiture of drug money’s.

Yet we pay for the gas to feed a fleet of sawed off suburbans
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That has nothing to do with it.

More cargo capacity and better resale value do, however.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:38:06 PM EDT
[#23]
Because CHiP's went  off the air 30 + years ago.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:38:42 PM EDT
[#24]
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I've been a little irritated with the "ghost" cars lately. They have a matte clear sicker that says "sheriff" or "police" on the side, and are normal civilian cars or SUVs.

The visual presence of police forces is a big deterrent for crime, and people in distress need the easy visual.

I guess you have to get that radar revenue though.
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Yeah, saw a new Tahoe the other day, nice white paint and those translucent stickers on it.  Apparently running radar.  I had to be right beside it to kinda-sorta see the stickers.  C'mon guys, at least pretend.

I'm not a GD cop-basher...but...I would like to have my concern noted.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:40:13 PM EDT
[#25]
Here it was an option to the state contract, but it raised the cost by about $500 a car.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:42:07 PM EDT
[#26]
In the 90's, manufacturers of police package vehicles stopped offering cars in multi colors. It was a cost cutting measure. Some agencies held fast to tradition and opted to go the extra expense and have the multi color paint done after market. Other's simply changed their traditional looks and added stripping decals. These days, decals and wrapping have replaced the after market painting. Our largest local agency has never strayed from their black and white design. However, their cars come all black and they wrap the white.

Short answer is that solid colors are less expensive.

Edit;

I may be full of shit, but I did manage a PD fleet of over 50 vehicles for a few years in the early 2000's.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:42:33 PM EDT
[#27]
Easier to created joinder.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:42:45 PM EDT
[#28]
In my AO, I see many police cars that are "normal" cars, but they have light bars in the grill or on the dash.

Can't have the spotters yelling "5-0" when you roll by.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:43:42 PM EDT
[#29]
Too bright for tier 1 ops
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:44:41 PM EDT
[#30]
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I've been a little irritated with the "ghost" cars lately. They have a matte clear sicker that says "sheriff" or "police" on the side, and are normal civilian cars or SUVs.

The visual presence of police forces is a big deterrent for crime, and people in distress need the easy visual.

I guess you have to get that radar revenue though.
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In some states like Mississippi they have laws that regulate markings on state, county and local city vehicles.  Lettering must be 3 inches minimum and in bold colors not matching the vehicle.

Some brain trust in small cities in MS started with ghost markings but none of their vehicles are able to do traffic stops legally.

Side note... Sheriffs cant even run radar in Mississippi unless the population is over a certain number, hence, the troopers arenthe only ones running radar in rural areas.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:45:37 PM EDT
[#31]
They dont want to look like a penguin?
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:46:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Classic California Highway Patrol Cars - Jay Leno's Garage


cool starry bra about California black and whites..
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:47:44 PM EDT
[#33]
I ride in a CHP-similar paint scheme SUV.  Black front, rear doors and deck lid.  White front doors and roof, all painted.  Plus, a door star.  No "Call 911, or Cuty of XXXXville, nor mottos, none of that shit.  We're the police and everybody knows it from looking at the paint scheme. It costs about $1000 more because the cars only come one color from the manufacturer.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:48:42 PM EDT
[#34]
Sneakiness
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:48:44 PM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:49:08 PM EDT
[#36]
Every agency is independent.  Fashion and fads along with tradition.  I like b/w.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:49:29 PM EDT
[#37]
My uncle was Washington State Patrol and at one point he had a pursuit Mustang... 5 speed manual and teeny, tiny walled off, plexiglass area for dirtbags in the back... we thought it was a soo cool..
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:49:51 PM EDT
[#38]
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:50:10 PM EDT
[#39]
Austin cars are still black & white.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:50:35 PM EDT
[#40]
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:50:40 PM EDT
[#41]
The town I live in has black/white cars and even a black/white Ram pickup truck.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:51:26 PM EDT
[#42]
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Because you can buy fancy sticker a lot cheaper the a 2 color paint job.
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This and solid color cars have better resale values than black/white patrol cars.  The state DOT here even went to all white vehicles with stickers as the white sells better than the yellow they used to be.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:51:35 PM EDT
[#43]
A lot of departments are going back to them.

Quite honestly I don't like them except on certain old school departments.

I also don't like the "swoosh" so many have done with their vinyl in the last 10 years.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:51:53 PM EDT
[#44]
There's a few departments around me that are black and white. There's also a lot that are black on black that look awesome.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:52:02 PM EDT
[#45]
In NC back in the 70's and 80's (and earlier) small PDs got used highway patrol
cars. Then they got traded in early, but you had to get whatever paint job they
were decommissioned in. They were solid colors and came in about 5 or 6 colors.
Budgets were tight for those departments.

Departments now use their own decal kits and/or paint schemes. Rare to see a
black and white anymore. In many cases the blue lights are now inside rather
than on top. The days of the bubble gum machine are gone.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:53:15 PM EDT
[#46]
Wish they were. Our PD ran black with green decals on them forever. Whoever made that choice should have been fired. Those things were an eyesore.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:53:50 PM EDT
[#47]
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I've been a little irritated with the "ghost" cars lately. They have a matte clear sicker that says "sheriff" or "police" on the side, and are normal civilian cars or SUVs.

The visual presence of police forces is a big deterrent for crime, and people in distress need the easy visual.

I guess you have to get that radar revenue though.
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In some areas it is mandatory for police vehicles to be marked. This is a way around that pesky little directive.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:53:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:54:14 PM EDT
[#49]
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Houston's just switched over to black and white in the last 6 years.
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That is where I first saw police cars with the ghost lettering on the sides.
Link Posted: 12/12/2018 9:54:47 PM EDT
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