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Posted: 4/11/2010 7:14:23 PM EDT

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I notice in some videos from Youtube that the person shooting the pistol use the "teacup" grip where the support hand is placed under the magazine. teacup grip

I like how he backs up to get a butt shot while she is looking downrange

slick!

Seems its his thing to do...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Z84W5nKFQ&feature=fvw

Posted: 4/11/2010 7:18:26 PM EDT

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BTW, all great responses on here. Seems its their thing to do, and that some women on here even do it to.

Posted: 4/11/2010 7:34:45 PM EDT

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Because the weapon is heavy.

wouldn't boobs act as a counter weight?

They would, if they were located on their back.

Now that would be...interesting

Posted: 4/11/2010 7:38:27 PM EDT

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Because the weapon is heavy.

yep, they are balancing the weight instead of reducing the recoil.

Yep.

Posted: 4/11/2010 7:47:02 PM EDT

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I can't see the videos at work, but leaning back is the correct position. You guys have evidently never been trained correctly. More instances of the basement dwellers having no clue and making assumptions.
http://www.biathlon.net/fundamentals.html
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/offhand1-web.jpg
http://www.biathlon.net/Fig50.JPG
I guess the Army marksmanship Unit and the Marine Corps Service Rifle competitors shoot completly wrong according to you guys.

That style of shooting is only good for marksmanship competition.

It is totally incorrect for real world scenarios.

I was taught by a Marine that this is the proper way to shoot accept when laying prone or room clearing and such situations where it's not possible. I think I'll trust him since he has actually been in real world scenarios, unlike most here, not saying you haven't though.

What's so

about that?

I was a Marine. I have shot in competition and in combat...

There is no real life scenario that I can think of in which you would adopt the offhand position used in precision shooting competitions.

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At the Appleseed, they taught us the sort of standing pose the AMU is using, and then said, "Try that with a .30-06 and it'll knock you on your ass." Recoil management is one of the reasons we lean into the rifle. The other reason is for a quicker transition from shooting to moving to shooting. You aren't ready to move quickly from that position.

Finally. You'll never see the standing up, hip thrown back stance in real life combat because it makes you tall, immobile, and takes time to assume properly. It's a very stable platform for establishing a very stable Natural Point of Aim. You use this stance to aim very accurately by moving your entire body, in it's natural point of aim, until you are on target, instead of moving the rifle to get on target.

It makes you a very large, stationary target, and you cannot shoot accurately quickly, or transition quickly from target to target. It's only useful for stationary shooting low-recoiling rifles at tiny paper targets during accuracy competitions where victory is measured in tenths of an inch increments. If that's your thing, great.

I think competition style shooting is great. I enjoy it for what it is but it is not practical. My wife wife has no desire to shoot in competition. So when I take her to the range it is for three basic reasons: 1- To become familiar with firearms so she can defend herself if necessary. 2- To learn firearms safety (since I have guns in the house) and 3- To have a little fun.

Teaching her competition shooting techniques would be counterproductive.

Posted: 4/11/2010 7:50:35 PM EDT

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I can't see the videos at work, but leaning back is the correct position. You guys have evidently never been trained correctly. More instances of the basement dwellers having no clue and making assumptions.
http://www.biathlon.net/fundamentals.html
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/offhand1-web.jpg
http://www.biathlon.net/Fig50.JPG
I guess the Army marksmanship Unit and the Marine Corps Service Rifle competitors shoot completly wrong according to you guys.

That style of shooting is only good for marksmanship competition.

It is totally incorrect for real world scenarios.

I was taught by a Marine that this is the proper way to shoot accept when laying prone or room clearing and such situations where it's not possible. I think I'll trust him since he has actually been in real world scenarios, unlike most here, not saying you haven't though.

What's so

about that?

I was a Marine. I have shot in competition and in combat...

There is no real life scenario that I can think of in which you would adopt the offhand position used in precision shooting competitions.

I think this guy said it well:

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At the Appleseed, they taught us the sort of standing pose the AMU is using, and then said, "Try that with a .30-06 and it'll knock you on your ass." Recoil management is one of the reasons we lean into the rifle. The other reason is for a quicker transition from shooting to moving to shooting. You aren't ready to move quickly from that position.

Finally. You'll never see the standing up, hip thrown back stance in real life combat because it makes you tall, immobile, and takes time to assume properly. It's a very stable platform for establishing a very stable Natural Point of Aim. You use this stance to aim very accurately by moving your entire body, in it's natural point of aim, until you are on target, instead of moving the rifle to get on target.

It makes you a very large, stationary target, and you cannot shoot accurately quickly, or transition quickly from target to target. It's only useful for stationary shooting low-recoiling rifles at tiny paper targets during accuracy competitions where victory is measured in tenths of an inch increments. If that's your thing, great.

I think competition style shooting is great. I enjoy it for what it is but it is not practical. My wife wife has no desire to shoot in competition. So when I take her to the range it is for three basic reasons: 1- To become familiar with firearms so she can defend herself if necessary. 2- To learn firearms safety (since I have guns in the house) and 3- To have a little fun.

Teaching her competition shooting techniques would be counterproductive.

Secret Service counter sniper teams train to use it for off-hand shooting.

Posted: 4/11/2010 9:02:02 PM EDT

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[quote="kellevil"]I was a Marine. I have shot in competition and in combat...

There is no real life scenario that I can think of in which you would adopt the offhand position used in precision shooting competitions.[/quote]

Offhand has plenty of practical applications. The position that involves leaning back is the standing position, which is a different one, and is the one that has extremely limited practical applications, especially when it involves the use of a repeater.

Posted: 4/11/2010 10:17:09 PM EDT

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTDxVcusrVM&feature=PlayList&p=F65C8E751E428B2E&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=2

Posted: 4/11/2010 10:21:20 PM EDT

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I can't see the videos at work, but leaning back is the correct position. You guys have evidently never been trained correctly. More instances of the basement dwellers having no clue and making assumptions.

http://www.biathlon.net/fundamentals.html

http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/images/offhand1-web.jpg

http://www.biathlon.net/Fig50.JPG

I guess the Army marksmanship Unit and the Marine Corps Service Rifle competitors shoot completly wrong according to you guys.

Yeah, for target shooting especially with rifle.