Why do people buy homes in HOA neighborhoods? - Page 4

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Why do people buy homes in HOA neighborhoods? (Page 4 of 9)

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:46:38 AM EDT

[#1]

I don't like in a HOA. I'm looking out my front window at an 80s model Winnebego that hasn't been cranked in 4 years in my neighbor's driveway. It also has mold growing on it. I was here first too.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:47:47 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Because in some places you can't find worthwhile houses that aren't in a HOA.

Like in AZ and FL.

It was nearly impossible for us to find anything not in an HOA. That said, paying $2k a year in dues sucks.

When you compare HOA dues in HOA-heavy areas with property taxes in areas where they are less popular, they often even out.

I'd personally rather live in a well-managed small town and have little to no HOA stuff, but many of those subdivisions in AX and Florida were private developments that needed to self-fund roads, water, sewage, etc. that were managed by city governments in the past, before every concept of government led to people screaming "SOCIALISM@!!%$BBQ!!"

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:49:26 AM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
HOA here and no problems in the last 7 yrs...YMMV

Same. I live in a very unique community and the HOA is not bad at all.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:49:59 AM EDT

[#4]

Sometimes it is hard to find a nice area without them

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:50:21 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Because 50% of the general population are below average morons,
and birds of a feather flock together.

Gotta be this^

bingo

some people just want to be told what to do.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:50:32 AM EDT

[#6]

I like my HOA because it ensures that my property values don't go down because of shitty neighbors. It ensures that property owners mow thier laws, cant have chickens and other white trash hillbillie pets, dont keep rusted out shit box cars in public view and generally ensure that the neighborhood stays nice looking. I do think that sometimes some HOAs can get crazy by mandating certain house colors or not allowing flags and etc, but for the most part i am in favor of them. Plus ours does snow removal, trash pick up, has a gym, pool and tennis courts so its pretty good.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:50:50 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:

So your neighbor has to mow their lawn every month or so, not leave cars in their front yard, not paint their house neon purple...
Some people like to protect their property value.

This plus my HOA has a golf course, 2 big lakes, a awesome pool, beach swimming, a bar and restaurant, tennis courts, and million dollar club house.

The HOA and city also do not allow people to let their homes become trashy looking. I like it.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:51:11 AM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
I purposely went out of my way to get a home that was not in an HOA and so far I have been VERY happy with my decision. I have only had one problem, I got some new neighbors and for awhile they refused to take care of their weeds. I asked them to do it twice politely over the span of 4 months so I gave them a third of a year to do it and they still ignored me. I called the city and they took care of it. The weeds were cut the next week.

All you did was use the power of a larger "HOA" aka the City, to enforce a rule. What is the difference?

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:51:51 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

Some people would also like freedom FROM from your purple house, and they're willing to pay for it.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:52:45 AM EDT

[#10]

Cousin Eddie understood liberty. it's a shame you guys don't.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:53:45 AM EDT

[#11]

HOA here and only a couple of "problems" down the street in the last 12 years... although they were whisked away and I do believe that any other potential "problems" have received the message.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:55:04 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

WE DID MOVE!!! TO PLACES WITH HOA'S

Jaysus.

Plus, people always bitch about "BIG GOVERNMENT" and HOAs are the absolute smallest form of governance. If you GET INVOLVED with your HOA, you can make sure it doesn't get stupid. If you pay your dues, never go to meetings or vote and bitch, then you are a moron.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:55:33 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

Some people would also like freedom FROM from your purple house, and they're willing to pay for it.

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.
People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:55:47 AM EDT

[#14]

Here's my short list:
1. People can't put their fucking trash cans away. Sorry, I don't want a bunch of wild and feral animals attracted to trash left out all year. And really, is it that fucking hard to get the can off the street?
2. I don't want to live in a construction area with people parking their work trucks and trailers all over the fucking place to such an extend I can't get home because they block the road. If there is a fire or emergency I need the ambulance and firetrucks to be able to make it to my residence, not wait for you to get your fat ass up of the couch and move your piece of shit truck. True story.
3. I don't want to live in a ghetto where folks park on their front lawns. Or leave derelict vehicles around their yards. No, fuck that, you're never going to fix it up and raccoons are going to be living it it.
4. If you never play basket ball why the fuck has that hope been out for the last 5 years?
5. I don't live in a trailer park for a reason, I don't want people slamming meth next door.
6. At some point you actually have to water the grass, cut it and when it's over the curb and into the road, it does need to be trimmed, just saying.

I take pride in my home. I take pride in keeping my home looking nice. 25% of people could give a fuck. Cool, whatever, go live in a trailer park, DON'T bring your trailer park to a nice neighborhood. HOAs ensure when the trailer park folks hit the lottery they have to maintain a standard of maintenance normal folks can do all on their own. You don't like an HOA, don't live there but I like to have a nice looking neighborhood. Shitty looking neighborhood never get better and always become ghettos. I don't want that.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:57:11 AM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:

Because people have become so stupid, so self absorbed, that common sense can't be relied upon to govern people's actions...hence the HOA has to hammer the fools.

Yep.

And because freedom is important, people who don't like them, don't have to move into a neighborhood that has one.

Freedom preserved!

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:58:26 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

Some people would also like freedom FROM from your purple house, and they're willing to pay for it.

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.
People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

No, people invented HOAs to regulate the dirtbags.

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:58:55 AM EDT

[#17]

Why do people agree to a forum that has rules? You can't do as you want on here and most of these anti HoA paid to be a higher member....

Posted: 2/17/2013 4:59:12 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

Some people would also like freedom FROM from your purple house, and they're willing to pay for it.

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.
People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

Want to raise chickens next to my house? I'll start raising foxes. I like my peace and quiet and chicken from the chicken farm 15 miles away. Not 15 yards away. Your fucking rooster starts crowing at the break of dawn, I let the foxes loose.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:00:02 AM EDT

[#19]

Some HOAs in rural areas collect fees for snow removal or repairs to their roads that local towns and counties won't touch, but most have stupid by-laws.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:01:04 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

Some people would also like freedom FROM from your purple house, and they're willing to pay for it.

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.
People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

No, people invented HOAs to regulate the dirtbags.

So people who want to do what they want on their property are dirtbags?........LOL

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:01:44 AM EDT

[#21]

Some folks like to be told what to do!

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:03:08 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

Some people would also like freedom FROM from your purple house, and they're willing to pay for it.

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.
People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

Want to raise chickens next to my house? I'll start raising foxes. I like my peace and quiet and chicken from the chicken farm 15 miles away. Not 15 yards away. Your fucking rooster starts crowing at the break of dawn, I let the foxes loose.

And this is the way our government wants you to think.
Fuck your fellow american neighbors. Freedom dont make sense to some people.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:04:18 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

Some people would also like freedom FROM from your purple house, and they're willing to pay for it.

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.
People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

No, people invented HOAs to regulate the dirtbags.

So people who want to do what they want on their property are dirtbags?........LOL

How the fuck does your brain work, if that's what you got out of that?

Do you understand the simple concept that what some people want to do is not what others want to tolerate, and that they can decide for themselves what they want around them? Does this bother you that much?

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:05:11 AM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

Some people would also like freedom FROM from your purple house, and they're willing to pay for it.

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.

People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

No, people invented HOAs to regulate the dirtbags.

True, but just as industry regulations were invented to protect the public, they are almost always perverted into something that was not intended.

With industry regulations, the industry takes over and uses them to prevent competition.

In a HOA, Gladys Kravits takes over and pushes her twisted view of what the world should be on everyone else.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:06:03 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

So people who want to do what they want on their property are dirtbags?........LOL

If you have neighbors and have a disdainful disregard for them, yes.... you're a dirtbag. Especially if that disregard is borne from sloth or spite.

If you don't have neighbors, rock out with your cock out.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:06:06 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

...

And this is the way our government wants you to think.
Fuck your fellow american neighbors. Freedom dont make sense to some people.

A private community association developed privately by like minded people is the epitome of freedom. You seem to have a serious problem with how other people want to live, as long as it's different from how you want to live.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:06:35 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
So your neighbor has to mow their lawn every month or so, not leave cars in their front yard, not paint their house neon purple...

Some people like to protect their property value.

This.

Property value. Some people don't want to buy a home and have the neighborhood end up looking like a left-over ghetto scene in 10 years.

That said, there are a lot of HOA's that take the money and don't really do shit about it, or have crazy stupid rules that make no sense.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:06:55 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

So people who want to do what they want on their property are dirtbags?........LOL

Yes. Some are. Trashy people do trashy things. In NJ, I lived near plenty. Pools that had not been cleaned out in decades that looked like stagnant ponds from horror movies. Rusted hulks of cars that had not moved in years in the front yard. Assorted detritus all over the property. Animals running loose, off the property.

When people do "what they want" and what they want to do is NOTHING, you get loser-ville. Those people would do the same thing in a subdivison on .25 acres as they did on 10 acres on my road in NJ.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:07:22 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

Some people would also like freedom FROM from your purple house, and they're willing to pay for it.

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.
People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

No, people invented HOAs to regulate the dirtbags.

True, but just as industry regulations were invented to protect the public, they are almost always perverted into something that was not intended.
With industry regulations, the industry takes over and uses them to prevent competition.
In a HOA, Gladys Kravits takes over and pushes her twisted view of what the world should be on everyone else.

That is a problem - and is a problem with municipal, county, state and higher governments as well. That doesn't change the validity of the concept.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:07:42 AM EDT

[#30]

I could care less if someone wants to live within a HOA. It's just not for me and mine.

From a personal standpoint I equate HOA dwellers with progressive liberals. NOVA is chock full of them and look what those ass-holes helped get us.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:08:17 AM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.
People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

Here's the issue, you maybe able to raise nice chickens and rabbits, feed them right and keep them clean and disease free.

The guy two doors down wants to try his hand, well, he's not so motivated, now there are dead chickens spreading bird flu, a massive stinking pile of rabbit and bird shit that every has to tolerate because of LIBERTY, and a bunch of dying animals because he's never out there taking care of them.

Sorry, fuck that, now you have to get the law involved because this moron thought he was a good farmer and get's the neighbors kid sick with some funky disease because he never cleaned up after the animals. People hardly clean up after their dogs, what are they going to do with 12 chickens and rabbits?

The majority being fucking morons, the default answer is no. If you live in a neighborhood and want to raise animals, go buy a farm. This isn't that hard.

Where's my liberty to be free of loud music? A reasonable expectation to freely travel the road I pay taxes on without having to dodge cars parked on the street? A real need to have emergency vehicles get to my residence without having to drive around a bunch of vehicles parked on the street, which I also pay taxes for. How about my liberty to have a nice home without the neighbors dogs coming on to my property?

You see, even the things these folks do at their homes effect me. Being shitty neighbors has been going on for a long time, the reasonable people are tired of it. Hence, the HOA.

And get your trash can off the street, it's not hard, it has rollers and stop parking on your front lawn.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:09:11 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:

And this is the way our government wants you to think.
Fuck your fellow american neighbors. Freedom dont make sense to some people.

HAHAHAHA!!! So my GOVERNMENT wants me to think I want to be able to sleep without being woken up by a fucking rooster at 5 AM? Fucking Obama is the one who wants me to sleep til 8:30 on the weekend?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEACHING....

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:10:14 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

I don't understand it either. My property, my rules.

same.

Quoted:

So your neighbor has to mow their lawn every month or so... yeah ok... maybe..., not leave cars
in their front yard Who cares?, not paint their house neon purple...Why should you care if they do?

Some people like to protect their property value. grass is a plant... don't like nature? Cars are mobile. paint is cheap. Nothing you've said permanently degrades value.

and city codes don't work why? If outside of city... it shouldn't matter.

I'm rather libertarian and won't buy in an HOA if I have the choice. Being somewhat libertarian I believe if what you do doesn't effect me then I should not bother you about it. I choose to limit this to physical concerns... As such house values don't really apply. It's a philosophical choice I suppose... but there it is.
It also may be odd coming from me as my father is a land developer and I myself own a few... things... I can recognize how value degradation can be a big concern... but really only with investment property... large commercial property and the like. Your personal home's value and my personal homes value isn't all that much of a concern until you or I want to sell it... but the extent of which you can modify it by changing its environment ... by controlling what others do with their own property can and should be limited.

My father has made several "housing developments" all with rather restrictive HOAs and I wouldn't want to live there... and neither would he. I want to build my own home some day and I don't want anyone else telling me what I can and can't do.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:12:12 AM EDT

[#34]

HOA's exist for the same reason gun free zones do.

And, for the most part, are inhabited by the same type of people.

"Please make rules to protect me from the bad people in the world ... please don't make me take that responsibility upon myself ... I will gladly give up some freedom to be protected by smarter, stronger men then myself ..."

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:12:14 AM EDT

[#35]

The Supreme Courts of two States, Virginia and Rhode Island have ruled that an HOAs power to fine residents is an unconstitutional delegation of police and judicial power

So for every other state they are unconstitutional.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:12:43 AM EDT

[#36]

When I was looking for a house in VA the nicest houses were in an HOA. The ones that werent had front lawns covered with kids toys and old mattreses under the back deck, and trucks sitting on blocks in the driveway. My neighborhood is beautiful, has a community pool, organizes community activities and doesnt bother me. I could not be happier.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:13:31 AM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

If you don't want to look at your neighbor's purple house, you should probably put up a fence.

The whole "But mah PROPERTY values!" argument is a load of crap. You don't have a right to "value" in your property. Value is in the mind of buyer and seller.

If your neighbor wants to sell his house to a "trashy" family, are you going to tell him it's your RIGHT to forbid the sale because of how it might affect your property's value?

Pure nonsense.

If you want a say on what goes on next door... then BUY next door.

But you have completely missed the point. An HOA is a free association for like minded people, people who have chosen to live together under a set of rules governing behavior. They have elections and everyone who is a property owner is eligible to hold office on the board.

It is the purest form of freedom, the freedom to associate with like minded people. I do not live in an HOA, I told my realtor that as long as there is an HOA don't even bother to show it to us. I am a bit jaded because HOA are a large part of my client base, but, I also advocate for them in front of the state legislature and local government because I am strong believer in the right of their members to freely associate under rules that they make and agree to before living in the community.

At the end of the day people choose to live in community associations, they form a compact with their fellow residents and become the most local form of government that people will deal with on a regular basis. If you live in an HOA and don't participate, then don't bitch when things don't go your way. Same thing for gun rights, taxes and freedom at every level. Don't vote? Don't bitch.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:13:45 AM EDT

[#38]

I went from living on 30 acres and being bordered by literally 100,000's of acres of National Forest and BLM to living on 3 acres in a subdivision/HOA.

My dues are $1600/year. I really don't have a problem with the HOA. They really are laid back.

I live amongst Doctors, attorneys, and people in the corporate world, and these people value nicely kept homes and neighbors with the same priorities.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:14:10 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Wow you all sound like a bunch of sally's. What happened to freedom and people allowed to make choices for themselves?

If I want to paint my house purple and work on a truck in my front yard it is my freedom and what my neighbor does is his business. If you dont like your neighbors.......move.

WOW talk about a bunch of whine asses.

Some people would also like freedom FROM from your purple house, and they're willing to pay for it.

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.

People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

No, people invented HOAs to regulate the dirtbags.

True, but just as industry regulations were invented to protect the public, they are almost always perverted into something that was not intended.

With industry regulations, the industry takes over and uses them to prevent competition.

In a HOA, Gladys Kravits takes over and pushes her twisted view of what the world should be on everyone else.

That is a problem - and is a problem with municipal, county, state and higher governments as well. That doesn't change the validity of the concept.

Nope, but it is the reason I have no desire to live in an HOA

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:14:59 AM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Yeah but its their freedom not to look at it, Just as its my freedom to raise some chickens and rabbits without worrying what some retarded association says.
People invented the HOA as a way to regulate the sheeple.

Here's the issue, you maybe able to raise nice chickens and rabbits, feed them right and keep them clean and disease free.

The guy two doors down wants to try his hand, well, he's not so motivated, now there are dead chickens spreading bird flu, a massive stinking pile of rabbit and bird shit that every has to tolerate because of LIBERTY, and a bunch of dying animals because he's never out there taking care of them.

Sorry, fuck that, now you have to get the law involved because this moron thought he was a good farmer and get's the neighbors kid sick with some funky disease because he never cleaned up after the animals. People hardly clean up after their dogs, what are they going to do with 12 chickens and rabbits?

The majority being fucking morons, the default answer is no. If you live in a neighborhood and want to raise animals, go buy a farm. This isn't that hard.

Where's my liberty to be free of loud music? A reasonable expectation to freely travel the road I pay taxes on without having to dodge cars parked on the street? A real need to have emergency vehicles get to my residence without having to drive around a bunch of vehicles parked on the street, which I also pay taxes for. How about my liberty to have a nice home without the neighbors dogs coming on to my property?

You see, even the things these folks do at their homes effect me. Being shitty neighbors has been going on for a long time, the reasonable people are tired of it. Hence, the HOA.

And get your trash can off the street, it's not hard, it has rollers and stop parking on your front lawn.

Weather or not he is any good at raising chickens is non of my business to tell him he cannot. Absolutely no different than gun control. Just because on person can fuck it up dont mean everyone should suffer.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:15:04 AM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:

Want to raise chickens next to my house? I'll start raising foxes. I like my peace and quiet and chicken from the chicken farm 15 miles away. Not 15 yards away. Your fucking rooster starts crowing at the break of dawn, I let the foxes loose.

This. You want a diseased chicken farm that your never going to take care of, cool, don't get pissed when I shoot the damn things when they get out. Hey, no rules right? Furthering that "no rules, FREEDOM/LIBERTY" idea, don't get pissed when I blast you dog for being on my property. I'll start leaving big juicy steaks out, then the dog that you let go around the neighborhood comes over, I'll blow the mutherfucker away. No rules, right? You can't get pissed, right?

No to all that, because that's not how reasonable people act. Chickens belong on a farm. Rabbits belong on a farm. Your dog stays in your yard and clean up after it too, it stinks.

HOAs keep the unreasonable minimally reasonable.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:15:33 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
HOA's exist for the same reason gun free zones do.

And, for the most part, are inhabited by the same type of people.

"Please make rules to protect me from the bad people in the world ... please don't make me take that responsibility upon myself ... I will gladly give up some freedom to be protected by smarter, stronger men then myself ..."

Yes, that must be it. You are such a raw specimen of manliness, and everyone else is a pathetic sheep.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:15:58 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:

Sounds like it heavily depends on the city whether you would want an HOA or not.

My city enforces the no brainer shit like cars in front yards and crazy weeds, so HOA's are kind of pointless here. I work all around the state though and I see the appeal. There are some very Mexican areas here and when I say Mexican I don't mean Mexican-Americans or Americans of Mexican descent I mean Mexicans. Anyway some of the crazy Mexican areas are out of control but they are surrounded by HOA's to stop the bullshit. I can't think of any new neighborhoods that are going up that aren't HOA's. I wish there was though. I'm afraid it's going to get to a point where I have to move into an HOA and that would suck. I love having a garden and I would have to drop plants like corn if I was in an HOA.

I work on a lot of new houses and a big trend I hate is the houses that have back perimeter walls that open up to very widely spaced black iron bars instead of block fencing. It lets the whole neighborhood see into your backyard and I think they do that on purpose. Now your backyard has become an enforceable area for HOA rules. Not to mention I like to shoot bows and throw knives in my backyard I can't imagine trying to do that while people are walking their dog and staring at me 3 feet from my back fence.

Landscaping dude.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:16:47 AM EDT

[#44]

These are the houses next to mine. The whole neighborhood is similarly laid out.

This is a generally a quiet place, safe, good for small children (see avatar) and easy to get along with people, because we are basically similar in our needs and requirements for what a home and neighborhood provides.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:16:52 AM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:

An HOA is no place for a persons/families who dont have time or physcial capability to mow every week or dont make their home the first priority in life..

A lot to be said for this statement. Though in the same slant as the OP question, why would someone NOT put one of the, if not the, most expensive things they own at the top of their priority list?

Honestly just curious.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:17:24 AM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If you don't want to look at your neighbor's purple house, you should probably put up a fence.

The whole "But mah PROPERTY values!" argument is a load of crap. You don't have a right to "value" in your property. Value is in the mind of buyer and seller.

If your neighbor wants to sell his house to a "trashy" family, are you going to tell him it's your RIGHT to forbid the sale because of how it might affect your property's value?

Pure nonsense.

If you want a say on what goes on next door... then BUY next door.

But you have completely missed the point. An HOA is a free association for like minded people, people who have chosen to live together under a set of rules governing behavior. They have elections and everyone who is a property owner is eligible to hold office on the board.

It is the purest form of freedom, the freedom to associate with like minded people. I do not live in an HOA, I told my realtor that as long as there is an HOA don't even bother to show it to us. I am a bit jaded because HOA are a large part of my client base, but, I also advocate for them in front of the state legislature and local government because I am strong believer in the right of their members to freely associate under rules that they make and agree to before living in the community.

At the end of the day people choose to live in community associations, they form a compact with their fellow residents and become the most local form of government that people will deal with on a regular basis. If you live in an HOA and don't participate, then don't bitch when things don't go your way. Same thing for gun rights, taxes and freedom at every level. Don't vote? Don't bitch.

Umm how is it free? you pay dues, some states they can foreclose your home to pay said dues and you have to follow their rules.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:17:24 AM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
HOA's exist for the same reason gun free zones do.

And, for the most part, are inhabited by the same type of people.

"Please make rules to protect me from the bad people in the world ... please don't make me take that responsibility upon myself ... I will gladly give up some freedom to be protected by smarter, stronger men then myself ..."

How do you suggest a person should "take that responsibly upon (themselves)" when their neighbor has cars on blocks and 40 chickens, and a chain link fence decorated with hubcaps?

Smart people would work that issue out beforehand, I.e. willingly enter into an agreement with people that have similar standards.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:18:42 AM EDT

[#48]

Happiest day of my life when I moved. And the Jones in Texas do not live in HOA's.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:19:14 AM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Want to raise chickens next to my house? I'll start raising foxes. I like my peace and quiet and chicken from the chicken farm 15 miles away. Not 15 yards away. Your fucking rooster starts crowing at the break of dawn, I let the foxes loose.

This. You want a diseased chicken farm that your never going to take care of, cool, don't get pissed when I shoot the damn things when they get out. Hey, no rules right? Furthering that "no rules, FREEDOM/LIBERTY" idea, don't get pissed when I blast you dog for being on my property. I'll start leaving big juicy steaks out, then the dog that you let go around the neighborhood comes over, I'll blow the mutherfucker away. No rules, right? You can't get pissed, right?

No to all that, because that's not how reasonable people act. Chickens belong on a farm. Rabbits belong on a farm. Your dog stays in your yard and clean up after it too, it stinks.

HOAs keep the unreasonable minimally reasonable.

This has got to be the most assinine thing I have heard in a long time.

Posted: 2/17/2013 5:20:11 AM EDT

[#50]

We don't even have building permits here or inspections during construction unless it's a commercial building. Funny thing is seems to me after buying several here and other areas these are better built by a large factor. All the homes here are nice, well kept and built right and no HoA or permits. Imagine that. Of course houses here are more than 3 feet apart, most are between 2-5 acres (still a recognized subdivision) and I live on the edge of a resort golf course.

Friend of mine recently moved to one with a HoA for the first time. First day he was there he got a fine for having his moving van parked on the road overnight while they were moving. Been downhill ever since.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Why do people buy homes in HOA neighborhoods? (Page 4 of 9)

General » General Discussion

Warning

Confirm Action

About AR15.COM

Stay Connected

Newsletter

Contact Us