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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:46:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see this frequently. How would this have worked? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: - he should have pardoned all J6 participants I see this frequently. How would this have worked? You see that frequently but somehow glossed over the explanation of doing so posted here ad nauseam. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:46:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This! All his questionable decisions put into perspective. Any other republican would have signed an assault weapons ban after Las Vegas. People are not perfect, every president ever had faults. I want Trump because he is the best anti-swamp, gonna make the left loose their shit, candidate. "Any other republican would have signed an assault weapons ban after Las Vegas." There's certainly a case to made that the Republicans are a better opposition party than they are a controlling party, though I doubt that's what you meant. When Dems are in power they are pigs at the trough, but Republicans occasionally grow a pair and are able to hamstring them. When Republicans are in power they are also pigs at the trough and spending is left unchecked. I would apply the same to gun control. I think we got more gun control under Trump than we did under Obama.  "I want Trump because he is the best anti-swamp..." Just stop with the anti-swamp bullshit. Trump picked the swampiest of swamp creatures and did zero to actually drain the swamp. If you actually believe the anti-swamp crap you're simply gullible. "...gonna make the left loose their shit..." This juvenile 4chan garbage is the piece of corn on top of the Trump shit sundae. "Yeah but he makes heads explode" is a perfect litmus to identify someone who doesn't actually care about politics, policies or results at all, but who just wants to score cheap points against people they hate. It's a literally worthless "quality". |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:46:28 AM EST
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Quoted: To be clear I am not a trumper I am a pro truth rationalist. Hoping I can find an intelligent answer since liberals, Democrats and Libtards can't seem to give a rational or honest answer. I see people here who don't like Trump I assume they are not libtards. Please leave out the BS reasons like mean tweets or stuff you think he will do that he has not yet done. If Trump rubs you the wrong way, you think he's a bad person much like the boss you also hate but keep working for then also leave it out of the discussion. And lastly Trump's Anti gun comments in the beginning of his Admin. Lets air that out now so we can also leave that out as Irreverent. Yes he said those things but the next day GOA and NRA educated him on the constitutional issues his words would cause problems over and he never uttered that baloney again. The Deep state rans some false flags to try and control the man and I think it's a first in History a President changed his mind ignoring his CFR handlers and came down on the side of freedom and what is right. He gets zero credit for that historical feat from some of you. So with that in mind why don't you like Trump and why should he not be President again? It's not that I dislike him, I thought his first term was fairly effective despite the attempts made by the left to undermine him. At this point however, he is simply too divisive of a person to have an effective second term. Add in that he seems to have an egocentric personality and that just adds more fuel to the fire. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:47:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m all about fuck the RINO’s… but at-least McConnell blocked trumps nominee to head the atf (Charles Canterbury). The tvidians can’t explain that one away.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:48:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see this frequently. How would this have worked? Didn't they go after them after Biden took over? |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:49:23 AM EST
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The people who hate Trump's personality, did you like W's?
GWB acted better as president but never stood up to the attacks like Trump did. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:49:49 AM EST
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I wish he would shut up sometimes. I'm pretty neutral about him. His mean tweets are great.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:50:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Any other republican would have signed an assault weapons ban after Las Vegas." There's certainly a case to made that the Republicans are a better opposition party than they are a controlling party, though I doubt that's what you meant. When Dems are in power they are pigs at the trough, but Republicans occasionally grow a pair and are able to hamstring them. When Republicans are in power they are also pigs at the trough and spending is left unchecked. I would apply the same to gun control. I think we got more gun control under Trump than we did under Obama. "I want Trump because he is the best anti-swamp..." Just stop with the anti-swamp bullshit. Trump picked the swampiest of swamp creatures and did zero to actually drain the swamp. If you actually believe the anti-swamp crap you're simply gullible. "...gonna make the left loose their shit..." This juvenile 4chan garbage is the piece of corn on top of the Trump shit sundae. "Yeah but he makes heads explode" is a perfect litmus to identify someone who doesn't actually care about politics, policies or results at all, but who just wants to score cheap points against people they hate. It's a literally worthless "quality".  |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:50:40 AM EST
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He’s an obnoxious, narcissistic prick that has a poor track record supporting the 2A (and constitutionality in general).
Is not conservative Routinely throws anyone who doesn’t treat him like a divine-mandate monarch under the bus. Takes credit for stuff he didn’t do, while dodging blame for stuff he does. Claims to fight “the swamp” and “liberals”, but never actually does so. Has wrecked American conservatism badly enough that it may never recover. The net effect is that he strengthens liberalism. This makes him the greatest weapon the Left has ever had. Has no love of his country, only himself Has a fucktarded cult that worships him. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:53:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You see that frequently but somehow glossed over the explanation of doing so posted here ad nauseam. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: - he should have pardoned all J6 participants I see this frequently. How would this have worked? You see that frequently but somehow glossed over the explanation of doing so posted here ad nauseam. He could pardon the people arrested on that day, I suppose, for whatever they were arrested for. My question would be, would you pardon complete strangers, not having any idea if they were friends or foe? Can he proactively pardon anyone? “I pardon anyone arrested after I’m out of office forever and ever.” Is that a thing? |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:56:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He could pardon the people arrested on that day, I suppose, for whatever they were arrested for. My question would be, would you pardon complete strangers, not having any idea if they were friends or foe? Can he proactively pardon anyone? “I pardon anyone arrested after I’m out of office forever and ever.” Is that a thing? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: - he should have pardoned all J6 participants I see this frequently. How would this have worked? You see that frequently but somehow glossed over the explanation of doing so posted here ad nauseam. He could pardon the people arrested on that day, I suppose, for whatever they were arrested for. My question would be, would you pardon complete strangers, not having any idea if they were friends or foe? Can he proactively pardon anyone? “I pardon anyone arrested after I’m out of office forever and ever.” Is that a thing? Judging from the press conference he put on shortly afterwards.. he viewed them as foe. Yes he could have proactively pardoned them. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:56:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On some issues I strongly agreed with his policies and actions. Too many to name. However, on several big issues he was all take or too late. I honestly felt the wall started construction too late and it meant things were only being built in his last year of office. As a result, Biden was able to stop a lot of it from ever happening. I think much of it was his admin trying to do it the right way before eventually ramming it through the only way they could, but I'd say that was rather to think there was any other way. Regarding the guns, you don't get to remove that from the list. He did essentially zero to advance gun rights during his entire term and I don't expect round two would be any different. Worse, he might do something I strongly oppose. I don't trust him on this topic at all, and don't know how any of you can. I think he creates a very toxic environment whereby you're either a devoted and unquestioning loyalist or you're a traitor. That's not healthy and doesn't encourage anyone else in the room to have a brain. He doesn't like it when anyone opposes him, which means he can never be wrong. That's not good leadership. And just on a general level, while he's right about a lot of what he says, not always. And sometimes he just needs to shut up, and he can't. The name calling and pettiness is just that. He could be his brash self without having to accuse everyone of eating a their own buggers. As stated in my intro, I align with a lot of what he did and feel there were several positive progressions, but you asked what I don't like and there it is. This is exactly where I am at. I naively thought his name calling and chaos was just an election strategy to barrel through the nomination and general election and that he’d knuckle down and get a lot done like business leaders do. Instead he picked Twitter fights with anyone and everyone. Legislatively, outside of his SCOTUS picks (more cocaine Mitch’s handiwork if you ask me), he didn’t accomplish much that wasn’t immediately reversed by Biden. He certainly had a lot of forces working against him but his chaotic egocentric behavior was, to me, the biggest impediment on why he was unable to achieve much. Politics is a coalition building game. His personality gets in the way of that. I do not think just because he’ll be in his last term this will somehow magically turn into him doing anything but the same chaotic quagmire. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:57:56 AM EST
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Too many leftists here.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 9:58:19 AM EST
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I don't dislike Trump, the man. The extreme measures the left is going to in order to silence and imprison him means he is a massive threat to their plans which is enough reason to like the guy right there.
I don't like some of the things he has done, or has failed to do: I could give more coherent arguments/points on virtually any topic. He's not actually great at getting some of his points across but I think his heart is in the right place. He has been a net detriment to the cause on 2A rights. I did not expect this and he needs to get his shit together on this issue. His personality (sometimes) is grating. Now, I actually like how he handles himself, but I am not a fence sitter. I want him to be POTUS again and the way he acts/speaks sometimes is going to be off-putting to the people in the middle whose votes he's going to need (I know, like votes matter anymore...) He's apparently not that great a judge of character or maybe gullible because he keeps surrounding himself with shitbags. Now maybe in his business life he could take risks on people and give them the benefit of the doubt. In this war against the left for the survival of our country he cannot get away with that. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:04:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is the RINOs who will sell us out. Look at how many line up to trash gun rights when the camera is rolling. You're absolutely right....I mean, we need a President that worries about due process later. 
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:06:08 AM EST
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I think he is a narcisistic person whose primary loyalty is to himself. I don't think he has many real principals he will stand for to be honest, especially on the 2A. But he's better than what the Dems offer. That is the sad state of this declining Republic.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:07:17 AM EST
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He owned all of CONgress his first two terms and didn’t get shit done.
He claimed he was gonna drain the swamp while filling his cabinet with swamp creatures. He never fired Pfauci. He implemented the warp speed fiasco. He continues to tell the sheep to get He shut the cuntry down while simultaneously handing out billions of dollars. He put swamp creatures in the SCOTUS. He didn’t do shit about HRC. What’s not to like? |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:08:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see this frequently. How would this have worked? In a similar fashion to carter pardoning draft dodgers. You issue a blanket pardon to all those there. Inevitably some pardons will be given to the few bad actors (dems and feds) but you announce that it’s better a few of them get off than innocent people get wrapped up. You do this because it’s the right thing to do and you show that you will take any amount of incoming fire from the swamp to stand up for the American people. Another way to describe this would be leadership. The funny part about this to me, I can say funny because I’m not sitting in a dc jail, is that trump didn’t do anything to help them out of fear it would harm his 2024 chances. In reality it only helped to seal his fate. Had he been a selfless leader in that moment I would be willing to overlook all of the other shit he screwed up. But it was the mail in the coffin showing that he is only in it for his own ego and he doesn’t give a fuck about the people he claimed to be running for. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:14:10 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m all about fuck the RINO’s… but at-least McConnell blocked trumps nominee to head the atf (Charles Canterbury). The tvidians can’t explain that one away. Yes they can. “4D chess.” |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:15:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In a similar fashion to carter pardoning draft dodgers. You issue a blanket pardon to all those there. Inevitably some pardons will be given to the few bad actors (dems and feds) but you announce that it’s better a few of them get off than innocent people get wrapped up. You do this because it’s the right thing to do and you show that you will take any amount of incoming fire from the swamp to stand up for the American people. Another way to describe this would be leadership. The funny part about this to me, I can say funny because I’m not sitting in a dc jail, is that trump didn’t do anything to help them out of fear it would harm his 2024 chances. In reality it only helped to seal his fate. Had he been a selfless leader in that moment I would be willing to overlook all of the other shit he screwed up. But it was the mail in the coffin showing that he is only in it for his own ego and he doesn’t give a fuck about the people he claimed to be running for. Certainty those people are really paying for blind devotion and convictions, Ashley Babbitt paid with her life. The Fed have jammed up anyone that entered the Capital building that day, regardless of what they did or didn't do, it was a show of absolute power of the Feds. Yes it was a travesty of Justice, still is that many will never recover from. Those that were non-violent which were the vast majority should've gotten a blanket pardon as he walked out the door at the very least. Now most of those people could use some serious legal help with all those donations collected.... |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:18:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Any other republican would have signed an assault weapons ban after Las Vegas." There's certainly a case to made that the Republicans are a better opposition party than they are a controlling party, though I doubt that's what you meant. When Dems are in power they are pigs at the trough, but Republicans occasionally grow a pair and are able to hamstring them. When Republicans are in power they are also pigs at the trough and spending is left unchecked. I would apply the same to gun control. I think we got more gun control under Trump than we did under Obama. "I want Trump because he is the best anti-swamp..." Just stop with the anti-swamp bullshit. Trump picked the swampiest of swamp creatures and did zero to actually drain the swamp. If you actually believe the anti-swamp crap you're simply gullible. "...gonna make the left loose their shit..." This juvenile 4chan garbage is the piece of corn on top of the Trump shit sundae. "Yeah but he makes heads explode" is a perfect litmus to identify someone who doesn't actually care about politics, policies or results at all, but who just wants to score cheap points against people they hate. It's a literally worthless "quality". Spot. Fucking. On.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:19:14 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Record debt Blatant disregard for the Constitution Anti-2A rhetoric and actions Incompetence Dishonestly Nepotism His lies and attempts to overturn an election he lost His presidential pardons Inability to take advice or listen to people smarter than he is And the fact that he is ancient. No more geriatrics in the WH. You are telling fibs. Tell who you want as President. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:20:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are telling fibs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Record debt Blatant disregard for the Constitution Anti-2A rhetoric and actions Incompetence Dishonestly Nepotism His lies and attempts to overturn an election he lost His presidential pardons Inability to take advice or listen to people smarter than he is And the fact that he is ancient. No more geriatrics in the WH. You are telling fibs. He also filled the swamp with people like Wilbur Ross, Bob Iger and Larry Fink. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:29:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are telling fibs. go through that post, line by line, and point them out… show your work Tell who you want as President. don’t try to change the subject |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:30:24 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Record debt Blatant disregard for the Constitution Anti-2A rhetoric and actions Incompetence Dishonestly Nepotism His lies and attempts to overturn an election he lost His presidential pardons Inability to take advice or listen to people smarter than he is And the fact that he is ancient. No more geriatrics in the WH. 
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:37:40 AM EST
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He let the bumpstock ban go through and he's another old fart. No more old people damnit.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:40:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because Trump does not support any gun control. I covered that. Next. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This a gun forum and you want to know why some of us don’t like trump, but you don’t want us to include his support of gun control in our reasoning. This thread sucks. Because Trump does not support any gun control. I covered that. Next.  Attached FileL oh F'ing L !  Trump is on video sitting next to Diane Fienstein preaching his support for Red Flag laws, (Take the Guns First & Due Process "Later"), raising the purchase age, "enhancing" background checks & then unilaterally banned bump stocks with an E.O.. Trump wrote in his book that he supported a Ban on so called "Assault Weapons" & "High Capacity Magazines" But you claim Trump does not support any gun control. Keep on with that Big Lie that Trump doesn't support Gun Control. Bigger_Hammer 
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:41:19 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell me why you dont like Trump, but you can't use all the reasons why people don't like Trump.  Yup, dumb thread |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:45:40 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He let the bumpstock ban go through and he's another old fart. No more old people damnit. Let it go through? He demanded it! It was a perfect opportunity to stand up for gun owners and say we are not going to punish all citizens for the crimes of one crazy person. I would have liked to see him go beyond that and appoint someone to publically look into any fbi connections that crazy person might have had. This stuff isn’t that hard. It just requires courage and a desire to do the right thing beyond masturbating one’s own ego. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:46:34 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He let the bumpstock ban go through and he's another old fart. No more old people damnit.  Uhh he’s the one who pushed for the ban. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:47:08 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let it go through? He demanded it! It was a perfect opportunity to stand up for gun owners and say we are not going to punish all citizens for the crimes of one crazy person. I would have liked to see him go beyond that and appoint someone to publically look into any fbi connections that crazy person might have had. This stuff isn’t that hard. It just requires courage and a desire to do the right thing beyond masturbating one’s own ego. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He let the bumpstock ban go through and he's another old fart. No more old people damnit. Let it go through? He demanded it! It was a perfect opportunity to stand up for gun owners and say we are not going to punish all citizens for the crimes of one crazy person. I would have liked to see him go beyond that and appoint someone to publically look into any fbi connections that crazy person might have had. This stuff isn’t that hard. It just requires courage and a desire to do the right thing beyond masturbating one’s own ego.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:47:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/7AC6109A-D809-4E08-8514-A53F54CDC5CD-405.gif L oh F'ing L ! Trump is on video sitting next to Diane Fienstein preaching his support for Red Flag laws, (Take the Guns First & Due Process "Later"), raising the purchase age, "enhancing" background checks & then unilaterally banned bump stocks with an E.O.. Trump wrote in his book that he supported a Ban on so called "Assault Weapons" & "High Capacity Magazines" But you claim Trump does not support any gun control. Keep on with that Big Lie that Trump doesn't support Gun Control. Bigger_Hammer Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This a gun forum and you want to know why some of us don’t like trump, but you don’t want us to include his support of gun control in our reasoning. This thread sucks. Because Trump does not support any gun control. I covered that. Next. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/7AC6109A-D809-4E08-8514-A53F54CDC5CD-405.gif L oh F'ing L ! Trump is on video sitting next to Diane Fienstein preaching his support for Red Flag laws, (Take the Guns First & Due Process "Later"), raising the purchase age, "enhancing" background checks & then unilaterally banned bump stocks with an E.O.. Trump wrote in his book that he supported a Ban on so called "Assault Weapons" & "High Capacity Magazines" But you claim Trump does not support any gun control. Keep on with that Big Lie that Trump doesn't support Gun Control. Bigger_Hammer Remember this gem? President Donald Trump stated he would "think about" a ban on gun silencers, following news that the suspected Virginia Beach shooter used a legally-bought gun suppressor. "I'd like to think about it. I mean nobody's talking about silencers very much. I did talk about the bump stock and we had it banned and we're looking at that. I'm going to seriously look at it. I don't love the idea of it," the president told Piers Morgan on Good Morning Britain. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:49:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember this gem? President Donald Trump stated he would "think about" a ban on gun silencers, following news that the suspected Virginia Beach shooter used a legally-bought gun suppressor. "I'd like to think about it. I mean nobody's talking about silencers very much. I did talk about the bump stock and we had it banned and we're looking at that. I'm going to seriously look at it. I don't love the idea of it," the president told Piers Morgan on Good Morning Britain. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This a gun forum and you want to know why some of us don’t like trump, but you don’t want us to include his support of gun control in our reasoning. This thread sucks. Because Trump does not support any gun control. I covered that. Next. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/7AC6109A-D809-4E08-8514-A53F54CDC5CD-405.gif L oh F'ing L ! Trump is on video sitting next to Diane Fienstein preaching his support for Red Flag laws, (Take the Guns First & Due Process "Later"), raising the purchase age, "enhancing" background checks & then unilaterally banned bump stocks with an E.O.. Trump wrote in his book that he supported a Ban on so called "Assault Weapons" & "High Capacity Magazines" But you claim Trump does not support any gun control. Keep on with that Big Lie that Trump doesn't support Gun Control. Bigger_Hammer Remember this gem? President Donald Trump stated he would "think about" a ban on gun silencers, following news that the suspected Virginia Beach shooter used a legally-bought gun suppressor. "I'd like to think about it. I mean nobody's talking about silencers very much. I did talk about the bump stock and we had it banned and we're looking at that. I'm going to seriously look at it. I don't love the idea of it," the president told Piers Morgan on Good Morning Britain. NYC values |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:54:01 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This falls under the catogory ( I hate my boss because.... but I still work for him. ) I think you are looking at this all wrong. Trump was my employee, who overpromised and underdelivered. He was let go and as far as I am concerned - not eligible for rehire. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 10:55:40 AM EST
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I don't hate him, I don't even hate Obungo, just his stances and Ideals.
I don't like Trumps personality or much else about him. The few anti-gun BS things he was party to were a big kicker for me. He should have reeled in the ATF and even neutered them, vs sicking them on Bumpfires and fanning the flames of Red Flag laws. So many times, he should have kept his big orange mouth shut in person and on social media. He knows right from wrong, he knows the position he was in and the unfairness that he would be treated by the incoming and future Govts and their agencies... He should have 100% been above board and kept his nose clean and not given them anything to try and charge him with. While I feel like he did stand up for the country and stimulate the economy he was a distraction, a circus act and a shit starter. If it comes down to him on the ballot vs a Biden or any other leftie, of course I'll vote for him again. However, I'd much rather us find someone better.... Who TF that will be, I have no clue. The only one I'm even remotely strong on is Ramaswamy. I've heard a few things I did not like about him, but I kinda feel like its just BS from those who'd like to sink him. I think his name and religion will doom him more than anything else. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:01:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because Trump does not support any gun control. I covered that. Next. Are you ignorant, or dishonest? Neither is very fitting for someone claiming to be “pro truth”. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:06:30 AM EST
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because of 2020, the cares act, stimulus helicopter money, the wuhan shot, the complete inability to endorse anyone who isn't a swamp monster - mcconnel, wray, rona, fauci, birx all while attacking guys like massie, paul and cruz. The magic of the trump cultist is to have them literally see trump support all the people they despise, tell us its 4d chess and doesn't count because it's trump and just wait, he has them right where he wants them LOLOLOL. then they attack a guy who they praised as the greatest gov every the prior 2 years, who is actually "draining the swamp" in his state to the point the left doesn't even try to fight him because he hits him so hard. He's a traitor, a part of the rino class - trump cultist.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:07:24 AM EST
[#38]
i'm tired of wealthy ivy league assholes ruling over us
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:08:44 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He is a victim of the swamp. His fighting back is annoying to some folks that aren’t accustomed to warrior mentality. Also fuck every federal employee on planet earth; you are part of the problem. LOL! Swamp "Best People" hired by Trump (this is the short list) 1) Jared Kushner/Trump son-in-law, Soros business partner (w/his anti-2A donating brother) to the tune of $500,000,000. A regular guest at Soros' home with "beautiful Ivanka". He was appointed highest presidential adviser for 4 years. Helped get Israel $360 billion dollar check for Trump to sign at lightning speed (first year). 2) Bill Barr - attorney general/highest law enforcement position. He was George HW Bush's AG and drafted the domestic assault weapons ban and mag ban for Bush's crime bill in 1991 which ended up part of Clinton's Brady Bill and ban. He publicly stated he was in favor of a permanent mag ban as well as Bush's 1989 AW import ban. 3) democrat General Mattis. 'Nuff said? 4) globalist Rothschild banking head Wilber Ross. Rothschild bank bailed the Trump corporation out of failure in the early 1990s and Wilber was "da man". His reward was Commerce Secretary. 5) at least 6 Goldman Sachs banking corporate heads to White House advisory positions. (And Ted Cruz would be "owned" by GS because his wife had a position there according to Trump - LOL!) 6) Chuck Canteberry picked by Trump to head BATFE. When pro-2A groups reached out to Trump's office with info that Canteberry was anti-gun, Trump pushed for him anyway. Canteberry had so much anti-2A history that even RINO Republicans pushed so that he would not be appointed. 7) Trump left ALL Obama appointees at ATF for his entire term. 8) Appointed openly homosexual Richard Grinnel as ambassador to Germany and then continues to use him to shove the gay agenda down the throats of Republican party by hosting and promoting the gay Log Cabin Republican events at Mar-a-Lago. (Gee, Trump still hasn't sprung $300 for a conference room at Holiday Inn for the first Second Amendment Coalition meeting - still holding on to that supporter-donated $250 million to Stop the Steal). 9) Who was the "best people" in charge of the Second Amendment Coalition??? Big promise two months before the election with promises by Don Sr. and Jr. yet the the coalition page taken down from Trump's website months after he is sworn into office. Firearms industry people chosen to be involved NEVER heard from the Trumps again. 10) Leftwing medical dictator Fauchi left in charge (threatened doctors with loss of license of the prescribed Hydroxiclorequine or Ivermectin which saved lives). "Nobody better try and hurt him." - DJT 11) Fatass anti-2A NJ values Chris Christie was a Trump bestie early on. 12) General Mark Miley who is so left-leaning that many Trumpers think Biden appointed him - LOL! Sure, he will drain the swamp this time... |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:12:58 AM EST
[#40]
He has no principles, he does or says whatever it takes to accumulate more power. His opinions on any given subject depend on who's asking and what crowd he's in front of.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:15:07 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: because of 2020, the cares act, stimulus helicopter money, the wuhan shot, the complete inability to endorse anyone who isn't a swamp monster - mcconnel, wray, rona, fauci, birx all while attacking guys like massie, paul and cruz. The magic of the trump cultist is to have them literally see trump support all the people they despise, tell us its 4d chess and doesn't count because it's trump and just wait, he has them right where he wants them LOLOLOL. then they attack a guy who they praised as the greatest gov every the prior 2 years, who is actually "draining the swamp" in his state to the point the left doesn't even try to fight him because he hits him so hard. He's a traitor, a part of the rino class - trump cultist. Attached File |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:26:32 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are telling fibs. Tell who you want as President. lol, no I'm not. But I understand some people have an emotional attachment to Trump and can't deal with his shortcomings. Want to keep going with the list why Trymp sucks? Socialist stimulus handouts so large even the democrat congress said no, all while wanting his signature on the checks. The irreparable damage caused to the Republican Party, all while making the democrats stronger than they've ever been. I'm voting for Desantis by the way. You know, an actual conservative. A candidate with proven leadership and the ability to win a general election post-2020. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:35:40 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't hate him, and I don't necessarily dislike him. In short, he was capable of so much more and blew it. This sums it up for me right here. I think his oversized Ego has both helped him and hurt him. Very few get to his station in life without a monstrous Ego, but he lets it get the best of him. I don't think he understood how entrenched and massive the 'deep state' was and how incredibly evil Democrats are. He is a practical businessman and not a deep thinker, but with that experience and people trying to screw you all the time in business I thought he would have had a better gut feel for it than he did. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:36:41 AM EST
[#45]
Give me a better option and I’m voting for him. So far nothing has pegged the needle yet.
Still a long ways off. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:38:30 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I really don’t hate him, none of what he did or didn’t do as president should be shocking to anyone who was paying attention. I do hate the supporters of his who believe he is somehow beyond reproach despite doing things like leaving his supporters in jail, pushing gun control, and generally being a shit judge of character. I also hate the statist democrats who are trying to throw him in jail for shit he didn’t do. Yes! The aspect of Trump that most disappointed me was the lack of judgment in character. I am guessing that very few people that get to the upper levels of politics are moral and rational so maybe it was a lack of suitable people to hire. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:48:46 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes! The aspect of Trump that most disappointed me was the lack of judgment in character. I am guessing that very few people that get to the upper levels of politics are moral and rational so maybe it was a lack of suitable people to hire. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I really don’t hate him, none of what he did or didn’t do as president should be shocking to anyone who was paying attention. I do hate the supporters of his who believe he is somehow beyond reproach despite doing things like leaving his supporters in jail, pushing gun control, and generally being a shit judge of character. I also hate the statist democrats who are trying to throw him in jail for shit he didn’t do. Yes! The aspect of Trump that most disappointed me was the lack of judgment in character. I am guessing that very few people that get to the upper levels of politics are moral and rational so maybe it was a lack of suitable people to hire. It’s not necessarily an inability to judge character. In many cases he knew and was friends with those people. He rubbed elbows with people like Wilbur Ross, Larry fink, epstein, Clinton’s etc for decades. Weddings, parties etc. |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:52:34 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, no I'm not. But I understand some people have an emotional attachment to Trump and can't deal with his shortcomings. Want to keep going with the list why Trymp sucks? Socialist stimulus handouts so large even the democrat congress said no, all while wanting his signature on the checks. The irreparable damage caused to the Republican Party, all while making the democrats stronger than they've ever been. I'm voting for Desantis by the way. You know, an actual conservative. A candidate with proven leadership and the ability to win a general election post-2020. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are telling fibs. Tell who you want as President. lol, no I'm not. But I understand some people have an emotional attachment to Trump and can't deal with his shortcomings. Want to keep going with the list why Trymp sucks? Socialist stimulus handouts so large even the democrat congress said no, all while wanting his signature on the checks. The irreparable damage caused to the Republican Party, all while making the democrats stronger than they've ever been. I'm voting for Desantis by the way. You know, an actual conservative. A candidate with proven leadership and the ability to win a general election post-2020. Despite all their rhetoric, Republicans love handing out the cash too. Remember W's stimulus checks? |
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:54:39 AM EST
[#49]
I love Trump his face should be on Mount Rushmore, I have a shrine in my house with a statue of Trump and I pray to it three times a day.
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Posted: 8/30/2023 11:54:59 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Despite all their rhetoric, Republicans love handing out the cash too. Remember W's stimulus checks? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You are telling fibs. Tell who you want as President. lol, no I'm not. But I understand some people have an emotional attachment to Trump and can't deal with his shortcomings. Want to keep going with the list why Trymp sucks? Socialist stimulus handouts so large even the democrat congress said no, all while wanting his signature on the checks. The irreparable damage caused to the Republican Party, all while making the democrats stronger than they've ever been. I'm voting for Desantis by the way. You know, an actual conservative. A candidate with proven leadership and the ability to win a general election post-2020. Despite all their rhetoric, Republicans love handing out the cash too. Remember W's stimulus checks? Ayup. Fuck that piece of shit as well. The ppp loan/stimulus threads here were eye opening to say the least. |
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