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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:28:16 PM EST
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Most of those light packages have a dimmer. They really need to use them. Moth to a flame and all that. I like plainly marked cars, no big graphics, just lettering. Black and whites are still classic looking. I really don't like the idea of super dark tint on patrol cars. It's dangerous, and just does not look right. What is there to hide? How many cops in the car? Actually, for the most part, the dark tint is for the electronics in the car. Not really. Had just as much gear on an HD in 100 degree weather with no effect. Its part of the stealth marking/cool car factor. In Ga.the entire windshield can be tinted black, as can the door windows. With no % limit. And they were doing that way before the advent of all of the new electronics. Thats a wives tale. It separates the officer from the public too much,and makes the car look unapproachable. Plus in the rain, or at night in the rain, it is unsafe. Departments could tint to the code and still get the benefit without the aggressive look. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:31:07 PM EST
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Not really. Had just as much gear on an HD in 100 degree weather with no effect. Its part of the stealth marking/cool car factor. In Ga.the entire windshield can be tinted black, as can the door windows. With no % limit. And they were doing that way before the advent of all of the new electronics. Thats a wives tail. It separates the officer from the public too much,and makes the car look unapproachable. Plus in the rain, or at night in the rain, it is unsafe. Departments could tint to the code and still get the benefit without the aggressive look. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Most of those light packages have a dimmer. They really need to use them. Moth to a flame and all that. I like plainly marked cars, no big graphics, just lettering. Black and whites are still classic looking. I really don't like the idea of super dark tint on patrol cars. It's dangerous, and just does not look right. What is there to hide? How many cops in the car? Actually, for the most part, the dark tint is for the electronics in the car. Not really. Had just as much gear on an HD in 100 degree weather with no effect. Its part of the stealth marking/cool car factor. In Ga.the entire windshield can be tinted black, as can the door windows. With no % limit. And they were doing that way before the advent of all of the new electronics. Thats a wives tail. It separates the officer from the public too much,and makes the car look unapproachable. Plus in the rain, or at night in the rain, it is unsafe. Departments could tint to the code and still get the benefit without the aggressive look. Tinting the entire windshield? That's retarded. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:32:27 PM EST
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Tinting the entire windshield? That's retarded. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Most of those light packages have a dimmer. They really need to use them. Moth to a flame and all that. I like plainly marked cars, no big graphics, just lettering. Black and whites are still classic looking. I really don't like the idea of super dark tint on patrol cars. It's dangerous, and just does not look right. What is there to hide? How many cops in the car? Actually, for the most part, the dark tint is for the electronics in the car. Not really. Had just as much gear on an HD in 100 degree weather with no effect. Its part of the stealth marking/cool car factor. In Ga.the entire windshield can be tinted black, as can the door windows. With no % limit. And they were doing that way before the advent of all of the new electronics. Thats a wives tail. It separates the officer from the public too much,and makes the car look unapproachable. Plus in the rain, or at night in the rain, it is unsafe. Departments could tint to the code and still get the benefit without the aggressive look. Tinting the entire windshield? That's retarded. But it looks cool. 
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:38:00 PM EST
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Tell me about it. I have seen them tinted down to the teens in %. Private detectives are allowed to do it too. stupid as hell.
I drove a unit with 14% tint on the drivers and passengers windows, could not see well on rainy nights. Had to roll the window down. 32% would have been fine. Have stopped folks with tint below the teens, and one with 0% on the back windshield. 5% to 10% is not uncommon. Many tint shops will do whatever you want. They take your money and send you down the road. Here in GA. the latest thing has been tinting the front windshield. Like wearing sunglasses at night. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:38:15 PM EST
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Shit we had a triffic cop driving around for months in a suburban with a "watch for motorcycles" sticker, stick family and no license plate. Not talking about a small town cop either. Another members pic of him. 
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:39:52 PM EST
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Most of those light packages have a dimmer. They really need to use them. Moth to a flame and all that. I like plainly marked cars, no big graphics, just lettering. Black and whites are still classic looking. I really don't like the idea of super dark tint on patrol cars. It's dangerous, and just does not look right. What is there to hide? How many cops in the car? Actually, for the most part, the dark tint is for the electronics in the car. Not really. Had just as much gear on an HD in 100 degree weather with no effect. Its part of the stealth marking/cool car factor. In Ga.the entire windshield can be tinted black, as can the door windows. With no % limit. And they were doing that way before the advent of all of the new electronics. Thats a wives tail. It separates the officer from the public too much,and makes the car look unapproachable. Plus in the rain, or at night in the rain, it is unsafe. Departments could tint to the code and still get the benefit without the aggressive look. Tinting the entire windshield? That's retarded. But it looks cool. http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r261/policecars2007/GeorgiaStatePatrol2.jpg If that windshield is tinted its pretty light compared to some I have seen. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:43:20 PM EST
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 Alabama trooper. They use SUV's and full size Ford and Chevrolet trucks with NO markings and can pull cars over without a marked unit with them. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:44:16 PM EST
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The 2015 2011 Camaro on Houston highways ALWAYS has someone pulled over when I see it in the morning.
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:48:41 PM EST
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This thread is retarded.
Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:49:04 PM EST
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I'm not pulling over at night for one of those without calling 911 and confirming. I don't think anyone else should either.
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:49:42 PM EST
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:51:04 PM EST
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The 2015 Camaro on Houston highways ALWAYS has someone pulled over when I see it in the morning.
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:51:50 PM EST
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I'm not pulling over at night for one of those without calling 911 and confirming. I don't think anyone else should either. How would you tell it's marked at night? |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:52:06 PM EST
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I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. If the cars behind you with emergency lights on, how do you know if its marked? |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:53:10 PM EST
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Stealth cars, no-knocks, plainclothes officers, MRAPs, TASER, dogs.... hell even cargo pockets....
It's not the tools that are the problem. Cops (as well as the rest of us, but that's another thread) should have access to whatever of that stuff the taxpayers that are footing the bill want to buy for them. It's the way these tools are used that needs to be held to the highest possible scrutiny. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:55:46 PM EST
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If the cars behind you with emergency lights on, how do you know if its marked? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. If the cars behind you with emergency lights on, how do you know if its marked? I can tell if it's got a lightbar, if the paint scheme matches the expected color of a police vehicle, if the vehicle looks like a proper police vehicle. Uniformity is important. Again, this was explained earlier in the thread. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:56:04 PM EST
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:56:25 PM EST
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I'm fine with Columbo driving up in his beater. He doesn't pull people over. 
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Frankly all police vehicles should be clearly marked. None of this bullshit stealth operators. lol, no All police vehicles which would reasonably be expected to pull people over, yes. It's a security thing. You don't want to train people that they have to pull over and be deferential to any car on the road that happens to have a $5 flashing red light somewhere on the dash. Reliance on uniform standards for identification has its own problems, but it's safer than the alternative. So you agree that not all law enforcement vehicles need to be marked?  I'm fine with Columbo driving up in his beater. He doesn't pull people over.
Also, I started watching Columbo recently on Netflix. It's pretty entertaining, even if it's 1:15 long and he violates people's rights every episode. I watched Columbo a couple years back. It is freaking awesome.
I think if more people followed the law and the speed limits they wouldn't need to worry about what kind of car the po po are driving. Or better yet, simply ride your bike more for the shorter trips 
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:57:12 PM EST
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Same reason they need hidden icons despite showing up in every cop thread. Because LOLsec and Pursesec Oh dear
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:57:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How would you tell it's marked at night? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm not pulling over at night for one of those without calling 911 and confirming. I don't think anyone else should either. How would you tell it's marked at night? The full size light bar on the roof. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:58:17 PM EST
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Guess what all flatfoot cars have in common.
Zip style on the wheels. Alls I do is look at the tires, dead give away but don't take my word for it. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:58:34 PM EST
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I'm not pulling over at night for one of those without calling 911 and confirming. I don't think anyone else should either. How would you tell it's marked at night? The full size light bar on the roof. Thought we were discussing markings. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 2:59:39 PM EST
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I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. It's a legitimate concern I guess, people have been pulled over by fake cops before. Seems like the easiest way to go is to avoid actions that draw police attention. There's a speedometer, turn signals and brakes on your car for a reason. I for one would feel a lot better calling 911 about a spurious looking car pulling me over if I knew I had given no reasonable suspicion for a stop. I suppose that doesn't stop me from matching a description of a perp somewhere, but it at least mitigates my risk. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:04:13 PM EST
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60401942/can_zpsd8b55fd6.gif Fuck that. Aren't you a cop yourself? Following the clearly posted speed limits is totally the same as tyranny. 
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:04:37 PM EST
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It's a legitimate concern I guess, people have been pulled over by fake cops before. Seems like the easiest way to go is to avoid actions that draw police attention. There's a speedometer, turn signals and brakes on your car for a reason. I for one would feel a lot better calling 911 about a spurious looking car pulling me over if I knew I had given no reasonable suspicion for a stop. I suppose that doesn't stop me from matching a description of a perp somewhere, but it at least mitigates my risk. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. It's a legitimate concern I guess, people have been pulled over by fake cops before. Seems like the easiest way to go is to avoid actions that draw police attention. There's a speedometer, turn signals and brakes on your car for a reason. I for one would feel a lot better calling 911 about a spurious looking car pulling me over if I knew I had given no reasonable suspicion for a stop. I suppose that doesn't stop me from matching a description of a perp somewhere, but it at least mitigates my risk. Uh... your solution does nothing to address the issue of impersonators... |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:07:37 PM EST
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. It's a legitimate concern I guess, people have been pulled over by fake cops before. Seems like the easiest way to go is to avoid actions that draw police attention. There's a speedometer, turn signals and brakes on your car for a reason. I for one would feel a lot better calling 911 about a spurious looking car pulling me over if I knew I had given no reasonable suspicion for a stop. I suppose that doesn't stop me from matching a description of a perp somewhere, but it at least mitigates my risk. Uh... your solution does nothing to address the issue of impersonators... So you're suggesting, what, two step verification for every traffic stop? Or just not stopping for the cops ever? Because decals and uniforms can and have been faked in the past too. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:10:09 PM EST
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The 2015 Camaro on Houston highways ALWAYS has someone pulled over when I see it in the morning.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=302099&stc=1&d=1320192170 http://www.sspcentral.com/chevy/houston_texas_police_camaro.shtml Interesting backstory. I see one of them about 4 times a week on the way to work on I10 E. Didn't realize there were 5 of them
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:10:29 PM EST
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60401942/can_zpsd8b55fd6.gif lol |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:14:42 PM EST
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. It's a legitimate concern I guess, people have been pulled over by fake cops before. Seems like the easiest way to go is to avoid actions that draw police attention. There's a speedometer, turn signals and brakes on your car for a reason. I for one would feel a lot better calling 911 about a spurious looking car pulling me over if I knew I had given no reasonable suspicion for a stop. I suppose that doesn't stop me from matching a description of a perp somewhere, but it at least mitigates my risk. Uh... your solution does nothing to address the issue of impersonators... Because we all know these police impersonators are just like all these crazed and out of control officers killing blacks across the country...oh yeah. Statistical non-starter - both issues. Just say what you're really thinking. You want to drive however you want and then you want a sporting chance of seeing a police car and getting away with your driving decisions...subdued/stealthy cop cars aren't sporting... |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:15:07 PM EST
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Let the butt hurt flow.
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:15:56 PM EST
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Because we all know these police impersonators are just like all these crazed and out of control officers killing blacks across the country...oh yeah. Statistical non-starter - both issues. Just say what you're really thinking. You want to drive however you want and then you want a sporting chance of seeing a police car and getting away with your driving decisions...subdued/stealthy cop cars aren't sporting... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. It's a legitimate concern I guess, people have been pulled over by fake cops before. Seems like the easiest way to go is to avoid actions that draw police attention. There's a speedometer, turn signals and brakes on your car for a reason. I for one would feel a lot better calling 911 about a spurious looking car pulling me over if I knew I had given no reasonable suspicion for a stop. I suppose that doesn't stop me from matching a description of a perp somewhere, but it at least mitigates my risk. Uh... your solution does nothing to address the issue of impersonators... Because we all know these police impersonators are just like all these crazed and out of control officers killing blacks across the country...oh yeah. Statistical non-starter - both issues. Just say what you're really thinking. You want to drive however you want and then you want a sporting chance of seeing a police car and getting away with your driving decisions...subdued/stealthy cop cars aren't sporting... Why address an actual argument when you can throw up your own strawman instead. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:16:42 PM EST
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Because we all know these police impersonators are just like all these crazed and out of control officers killing blacks across the country...oh yeah. Statistical non-starter - both issues. Just say what you're really thinking. You want to drive however you want and then you want a sporting chance of seeing a police car and getting away with your driving decisions...subdued/stealthy cop cars aren't sporting... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. It's a legitimate concern I guess, people have been pulled over by fake cops before. Seems like the easiest way to go is to avoid actions that draw police attention. There's a speedometer, turn signals and brakes on your car for a reason. I for one would feel a lot better calling 911 about a spurious looking car pulling me over if I knew I had given no reasonable suspicion for a stop. I suppose that doesn't stop me from matching a description of a perp somewhere, but it at least mitigates my risk. Uh... your solution does nothing to address the issue of impersonators... Because we all know these police impersonators are just like all these crazed and out of control officers killing blacks across the country...oh yeah. Statistical non-starter - both issues. Just say what you're really thinking. You want to drive however you want and then you want a sporting chance of seeing a police car and getting away with your driving decisions...subdued/stealthy cop cars aren't sporting... Yeah that's pretty much the takeaway from this thread. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:17:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because we all know these police impersonators are just like all these crazed and out of control officers killing blacks across the country...oh yeah. Statistical non-starter - both issues. Just say what you're really thinking. You want to drive however you want and then you want a sporting chance of seeing a police car and getting away with your driving decisions...subdued/stealthy cop cars aren't sporting... Quote HistoryQuoted: Because we all know these police impersonators are just like all these crazed and out of control officers killing blacks across the country...oh yeah. Statistical non-starter - both issues. Just say what you're really thinking. You want to drive however you want and then you want a sporting chance of seeing a police car and getting away with your driving decisions...subdued/stealthy cop cars aren't sporting...  |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:25:55 PM EST
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It's a two edged sword. Have a lot of unmarked cars? People complain there's no visible presence. Have none? You give up the deterrent effect of it. At least on the highway, the unmarked is good for getting the very high rate of speed paces, and in town people blazing through school zones. It would be stupid to take the hard stance that an unmarked car has no legitimate role at all in traffic enforcement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any vehicle that is tasked with traffic enforcement and performing roadside stops should be clearly marked with department name on all four sides, have roof top warning lights and chevron striping on the rear. I cant wait for the ARFCops to argue why any of the above isn't a good idea. No argument from me. We had both marked and unmarked cars in our traffic unit. I preferred the marked car and saw no difference in how easy it was to write violations. It's a two edged sword. Have a lot of unmarked cars? People complain there's no visible presence. Have none? You give up the deterrent effect of it. At least on the highway, the unmarked is good for getting the very high rate of speed paces, and in town people blazing through school zones. It would be stupid to take the hard stance that an unmarked car has no legitimate role at all in traffic enforcement. Unmarked cars for traffic enforcement are a bad idea. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:34:15 PM EST
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No kidding, but my attitude was "Isn't this what I'm paying taxes for?" I've changed the way I vote on certain tax levies as a result. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No one ever gets mad at the fire department for charging $1500 for a 10 minute ride to the hospital for a broken ankle I took a $300 ride in an ambulance after a car accident. I was pissed. At least you weren't air lifted. No kidding, but my attitude was "Isn't this what I'm paying taxes for?" I've changed the way I vote on certain tax levies as a result. Your taxes paid for the opportunity to get an amberlamps. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:37:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o753/sorionc/92270222-552F-4244-8CC9-30D2726FEB40_zpsymvzp6ir.jpg Shit, there's no WAY I'm pulling over for that thing! I would however, dial 911 and continue driving... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Shit we had a triffic cop driving around for months in a suburban with a "watch for motorcycles" sticker, stick family and no license plate. Not talking about a small town cop either. Another members pic of him. http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o753/sorionc/92270222-552F-4244-8CC9-30D2726FEB40_zpsymvzp6ir.jpg Shit, there's no WAY I'm pulling over for that thing! I would however, dial 911 and continue driving... |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:42:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You need unmarked cars for some stuff. Even I'm not that cuckoo But patrol cars that do traffic enforcement with uniformed officers in them? Put a sticker on the side Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Frankly all police vehicles should be clearly marked. None of this bullshit stealth operators. lol, no yes. But patrol cars that do traffic enforcement with uniformed officers in them? Put a sticker on the side This. There's definitely a place for unmarked cars, but traffic patrol ain't one of them. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:43:01 PM EST
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Posted: 4/26/2016 3:53:00 PM EST
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Posted: 4/26/2016 4:10:30 PM EST
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Because we all know these police impersonators are just like all these crazed and out of control officers killing blacks across the country...oh yeah. Statistical non-starter - both issues. Just say what you're really thinking. You want to drive however you want and then you want a sporting chance of seeing a police car and getting away with your driving decisions...subdued/stealthy cop cars aren't sporting... "Settle down, don't make me pull this car over!", literally.
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Posted: 4/26/2016 4:19:09 PM EST
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I can tell if it's got a lightbar, if the paint scheme matches the expected color of a police vehicle, if the vehicle looks like a proper police vehicle. Uniformity is important. Again, this was explained earlier in the thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. If the cars behind you with emergency lights on, how do you know if its marked? I can tell if it's got a lightbar, if the paint scheme matches the expected color of a police vehicle, if the vehicle looks like a proper police vehicle. Uniformity is important. Again, this was explained earlier in the thread. What a "proper" police vehicle? What if it's a slick top? how can you tell the expected color if at night? |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 4:26:03 PM EST
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Posted: 4/26/2016 4:28:34 PM EST
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What a "proper" police vehicle? What if it's a slick top? how can you tell the expected color if at night? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This thread is retarded. Don't like getting pulled over? Obey the fucking law then. If the local jurisdiction wants strict enforcement, sorry but your special snowflake ass driving through has little room to complain. I don't like the idea of getting pulled over by a car that looks just like every other car on the road. I've explained why already in this thread. It's a security issue. If the cars behind you with emergency lights on, how do you know if its marked? I can tell if it's got a lightbar, if the paint scheme matches the expected color of a police vehicle, if the vehicle looks like a proper police vehicle. Uniformity is important. Again, this was explained earlier in the thread. What a "proper" police vehicle? What if it's a slick top? how can you tell the expected color if at night? Night time makes things harder, which is when uniformity becomes even more important. Cops wear uniforms for a reason, after all. Their vehicles are also generally uniform for the same reason. Trying to break away from this is not a good idea. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 4:55:33 PM EST
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Not really. Had just as much gear on an HD in 100 degree weather with no effect. Its part of the stealth marking/cool car factor. In Ga.the entire windshield can be tinted black, as can the door windows. With no % limit. And they were doing that way before the advent of all of the new electronics. Thats a wives tale. It separates the officer from the public too much,and makes the car look unapproachable. Plus in the rain, or at night in the rain, it is unsafe. Departments could tint to the code and still get the benefit without the aggressive look. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Most of those light packages have a dimmer. They really need to use them. Moth to a flame and all that. I like plainly marked cars, no big graphics, just lettering. Black and whites are still classic looking. I really don't like the idea of super dark tint on patrol cars. It's dangerous, and just does not look right. What is there to hide? How many cops in the car? Actually, for the most part, the dark tint is for the electronics in the car. Not really. Had just as much gear on an HD in 100 degree weather with no effect. Its part of the stealth marking/cool car factor. In Ga.the entire windshield can be tinted black, as can the door windows. With no % limit. And they were doing that way before the advent of all of the new electronics. Thats a wives tale. It separates the officer from the public too much,and makes the car look unapproachable. Plus in the rain, or at night in the rain, it is unsafe. Departments could tint to the code and still get the benefit without the aggressive look. I have sat in both. I can tell the difference. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 4:56:38 PM EST
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I'm not pulling over at night for one of those without calling 911 and confirming. I don't think anyone else should either. How would you tell it's marked at night? He calls 911 whenever he gets stopped, brah |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 4:56:48 PM EST
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I bet most of those ghost lettered cars have lettering that's visible at night.
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Posted: 4/26/2016 5:03:37 PM EST
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The funny thing is that it is just as easy to tell a cop car, even if it's completely unmarked as it is to tell a marked car.
Always thought it was funny that they went to all the trouble of getting rid or minimizing all the standout features...... And then leave the push bumper on a car. Bam, cop. Nobody else ever puts a push bumper on a frigging impala. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 5:04:55 PM EST
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I bet most of those ghost lettered cars have lettering that's visible at night. Ours are. The ONLY reason for "ghost lettering" is to make the vehicles difficult to identify as police cars. They are marked only as a technicality. It's a kind of corruption. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 5:05:34 PM EST
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The funny thing is that it is just as easy to tell a cop car, even if it's completely unmarked as it is to tell a marked car. Always thought it was funny that they went to all the trouble of getting rid or minimizing all the standout features...... And then leave the push bumper on a car. Bam, cop. Nobody else ever puts a push bumper on a frigging impala. The new generation cars don't have that. I can usually tell them first by the cage behind the driver. |
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Posted: 4/26/2016 5:11:37 PM EST
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Any vehicle that is driving on a public roadway should fully obey all traffic laws. I can't wait for the ARFTards to argue why any of the above isn't a good idea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Any vehicle that is tasked with traffic enforcement and performing roadside stops should be clearly marked with department name on all four sides, have roof top warning lights and chevron striping on the rear. I cant wait for the ARFCops to argue why any of the above isn't a good idea. Any vehicle that is driving on a public roadway should fully obey all traffic laws. I can't wait for the ARFTards to argue why any of the above isn't a good idea. So you would pull over for some random solid black car in your rear view flashing a light? Anyone can buy police looking lights. |
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