User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:19:30 PM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The funny thing is that it is just as easy to tell a cop car, even if it's completely unmarked as it is to tell a marked car. Always thought it was funny that they went to all the trouble of getting rid or minimizing all the standout features...... And then leave the push bumper on a car. Bam, cop. Nobody else ever puts a push bumper on a frigging impala. My Impala has no push bumper, no exterior spot light and is a metallic brown. If I was a Trooper with this car, I could wear out a in car printer. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:28:55 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yeah that's pretty much the takeaway from this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Just say what you're really thinking. You want to drive however you want and then you want a sporting chance of seeing a police car and getting away with your driving decisions...subdued/stealthy cop cars aren't sporting... Yeah that's pretty much the takeaway from this thread. Well... fwiw I have written trying to get speed limits raised before... that went about equally as far. They like having literally everyone breaking some laws on the way to work, it gives them power to arbitrarily pull anyone over. They like power. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:30:36 PM EST
[#3]
All Police car's should be required to be Blaze orange with Neo Green glow in the dark "Police", printed on the side at least 18" tall.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:31:52 PM EST
[#4]
There should be minimum speed limit laws too. If you're too chicken shit to drive at a normal speed then stay the fuck off of the road.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:35:30 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
All Police car's should be required to be Blaze orange with Neo Green glow in the dark "Police", printed on the side at least 18" tall. DK-prof approved! 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:38:11 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
There should be minimum speed limit laws too. If you're too chicken shit to drive at a normal speed then stay the fuck off of the road. There are, on freeways. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:46:19 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
DK-prof approved! http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XOXPSz3r--/18s4jhwgr7r7rjpg.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
All Police car's should be required to be Blaze orange with Neo Green glow in the dark "Police", printed on the side at least 18" tall. DK-prof approved! http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XOXPSz3r--/18s4jhwgr7r7rjpg.jpg Nothing wrong with that. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:47:26 PM EST
[#8]
$$$
Gotta collect that surprise tax. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:49:49 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
DK-prof approved! http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XOXPSz3r--/18s4jhwgr7r7rjpg.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
All Police car's should be required to be Blaze orange with Neo Green glow in the dark "Police", printed on the side at least 18" tall. DK-prof approved! http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XOXPSz3r--/18s4jhwgr7r7rjpg.jpg Lol. Irish Guards are some of the most brutal on traffic enforcement. (I know that isn't Irish) |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:50:39 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
There are, on freeways. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
There should be minimum speed limit laws too. If you're too chicken shit to drive at a normal speed then stay the fuck off of the road. There are, on freeways. Not all places. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:54:38 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Frankly all police vehicles should be clearly marked. None of this bullshit stealth operators. Barring detectives and drug units I tend to agree. A visible cop serves as a deterrent to traffic violations and petty crime in general. This Sneaky Pete jobs exist so they can write that citation after you've endangered the public by doing 38 in a 30. It's about safety right, right? Not that a blacked out Taurus, Impala or what not doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. For that matter all surplus units sold at auction should be required to have "Not a cop" etched into the tops of the front and rear windows. Nothing more annoying than getting stuck behind 50 people doing 59mph on the interstate because some ghetto goblin in a ragged out 99 Crown Vic with a spot light is coming up behind. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:54:43 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Nothing wrong with that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
All Police car's should be required to be Blaze orange with Neo Green glow in the dark "Police", printed on the side at least 18" tall. DK-prof approved! http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XOXPSz3r--/18s4jhwgr7r7rjpg.jpg Nothing wrong with that. They also use; 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:57:58 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
All Police car's should be required to be Blaze orange with Neo Green glow in the dark "Police", printed on the side at least 18" tall. DK-prof approved! http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XOXPSz3r--/18s4jhwgr7r7rjpg.jpg Nothing wrong with that. They also use; http://98ron.superunleaded.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/150320-Police-Unmarked-Final-Cut-27.jpg http://98ron.superunleaded.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/150320-Police-Unmarked-Final-Cut-38-1920x1000.jpg 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 5:58:09 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Some departments run "semi-marked" cars around here. MSP had a couple. One side of the car has full markings. http://i.imgur.com/rOQBraY.jpg Other side is blank. http://i.imgur.com/axqN23s.jpg
That's the minimum marking required by Michigan law for the agency to legally use the vehicle for traffic enforcement. ETA: it's probably a hold-over in the law from when police used to do "side stops" by pulling up beside you and signaling you to pull over. Thus, the marking would be on the passenger side door so that when the driver of the other car looked to the side, they could identify the car as a police car. "Side stops" are also why Michigan State Police have the "hailers" aka "shark fins" on the hoods of their cruisers. They don't perform side stops anymore, but the hailer is retained due to tradition. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:01:57 PM EST
[#15]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:02:35 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
We have a shit load of those around here, as well as several chargers in black and some in orange. The chargers have absolutely no markings at all, only a couple stubby antennas and some led light in the grill. ISP used to run a white Mustang GT with absolutely no Idicators it was a trooper. No antennae, no spotlight, regular plates and windows tinted way darker than the legal limit to hide the deck lights. Used to see him flying up and down I-255 every morning goading all the ricers and Camaros into racing him. No matter how many times you'd see that car making a stop on the shoulder idiots still fell for it. Seemed to stop about the time a trooper doing 120 mph not responding to a call killed two young girls in a collision. That was a few miles from where said Mustang hunted. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:03:24 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Barring detectives and drug units I tend to agree. A visible cop serves as a deterrent to traffic violations and petty crime in general. This Sneaky Pete jobs exist so they can write that citation after you've endangered the public by doing 38 in a 30. It's about safety right, right? Not that a blacked out Taurus, Impala or what not doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. For that matter all surplus units sold at auction should be required to have "Not a cop" etched into the tops of the front and rear windows. Nothing more annoying than getting stuck behind 50 people doing 59mph on the interstate because some ghetto goblin in a ragged out 99 Crown Vic with a spot light is coming up behind. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Frankly all police vehicles should be clearly marked. None of this bullshit stealth operators. Barring detectives and drug units I tend to agree. A visible cop serves as a deterrent to traffic violations and petty crime in general. This Sneaky Pete jobs exist so they can write that citation after you've endangered the public by doing 38 in a 30. It's about safety right, right? Not that a blacked out Taurus, Impala or what not doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. For that matter all surplus units sold at auction should be required to have "Not a cop" etched into the tops of the front and rear windows. Nothing more annoying than getting stuck behind 50 people doing 59mph on the interstate because some ghetto goblin in a ragged out 99 Crown Vic with a spot light is coming up behind. So a ghetto goblin slows traffic down based on the fact that he appears to be driving a cop car and a cop in the same car is invisible and has no deterrence? |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:03:55 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
ISP used to run a white Mustang GT with absolutely no Idicators it was a trooper. No antennae, no spotlight, regular plates and windows tinted way darker than the legal limit to hide the deck lights. Used to see him flying up and down I-255 every morning goading all the ricers and Camaros into racing him. No matter how many times you'd see that car making a stop on the shoulder idiots still fell for it. Seemed to stop about the time a trooper doing 120 mph not responding to a call killed two young girls in a collision. That was a few miles from where said Mustang hunted. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
We have a shit load of those around here, as well as several chargers in black and some in orange. The chargers have absolutely no markings at all, only a couple stubby antennas and some led light in the grill. ISP used to run a white Mustang GT with absolutely no Idicators it was a trooper. No antennae, no spotlight, regular plates and windows tinted way darker than the legal limit to hide the deck lights. Used to see him flying up and down I-255 every morning goading all the ricers and Camaros into racing him. No matter how many times you'd see that car making a stop on the shoulder idiots still fell for it. Seemed to stop about the time a trooper doing 120 mph not responding to a call killed two young girls in a collision. That was a few miles from where said Mustang hunted. Theres a black Charger with regular plates and no outside markings that tries to goat people to stop light race here by Peoria too. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:04:08 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Revenue |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:04:21 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Revenue Public safety like a mofo. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:04:27 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
The new generation cars don't have that. I can usually tell them first by the cage behind the driver. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
The funny thing is that it is just as easy to tell a cop car, even if it's completely unmarked as it is to tell a marked car. Always thought it was funny that they went to all the trouble of getting rid or minimizing all the standout features...... And then leave the push bumper on a car. Bam, cop. Nobody else ever puts a push bumper on a frigging impala. The new generation cars don't have that. I can usually tell them first by the cage behind the driver. There is that. There are also a few other features that I look for that I don't care to let the popo know about. No need to help them any more than I have to by law. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:05:45 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I always laugh at all of you who say "quotas" and things like that. Some departments have them, but You all act like they're universal I believe my current ticket book was issued to me in June 2015 and it still has quite a few left in it. They come with 20 in them. Only tickets we every really write are from traffic crashes. Other departments I worked for I wrote speeding and other tickets, but we also had the time to work traffic there Are you a traffic cop? Regular patrol guys probably don't get looked at too closely in numbers but if your agency has a dedicated traffic unit you can bet there's a goal either official or unofficial. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:09:14 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Are you a traffic cop? Regular patrol guys probably don't get looked at too closely in numbers but if your agency has a dedicated traffic unit you can bet there's a goal either official or unofficial. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
I always laugh at all of you who say "quotas" and things like that. Some departments have them, but You all act like they're universal I believe my current ticket book was issued to me in June 2015 and it still has quite a few left in it. They come with 20 in them. Only tickets we every really write are from traffic crashes. Other departments I worked for I wrote speeding and other tickets, but we also had the time to work traffic there Are you a traffic cop? Regular patrol guys probably don't get looked at too closely in numbers but if your agency has a dedicated traffic unit you can bet there's a goal either official or unofficial. At the agency I worked for (as a reserve and water cop), they do have performance standards, but to fall short of them you would actually have to try to not do your job. The dedicated traffic cars had an expectation of something like 3 stops and 1 citation per 10 hour shift. The regular deputies had an expectation of something like 1.5 stops per shift, and .33 citations per shift on average. On the other hand, there were definitely some regular patrol deputies (like my dad) that blew up that performance standard by averaging nearly double the traffic deputy's expectation during a regular patrol shift... all while taking calls. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:11:17 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
My Impala has no push bumper, no exterior spot light and is a metallic brown. If I was a Trooper with this car, I could wear out a in car printer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
The funny thing is that it is just as easy to tell a cop car, even if it's completely unmarked as it is to tell a marked car. Always thought it was funny that they went to all the trouble of getting rid or minimizing all the standout features...... And then leave the push bumper on a car. Bam, cop. Nobody else ever puts a push bumper on a frigging impala. My Impala has no push bumper, no exterior spot light and is a metallic brown. If I was a Trooper with this car, I could wear out a in car printer. Impalas trip my radar. Chargers, Tahoes, Explorers and that other Ford sedan they run now all raise a flag and are treated as suspect until I get close enough to see a lack of deck lights. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:11:34 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Are you a traffic cop? Regular patrol guys probably don't get looked at too closely in numbers but if your agency has a dedicated traffic unit you can bet there's a goal either official or unofficial. An officer whose only job is to write tickets better write tickets. Self explanatory |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:14:35 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
So a ghetto goblin slows traffic down based on the fact that he appears to be driving a cop car and a cop in the same car is invisible and has no deterrence? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Frankly all police vehicles should be clearly marked. None of this bullshit stealth operators. Barring detectives and drug units I tend to agree. A visible cop serves as a deterrent to traffic violations and petty crime in general. This Sneaky Pete jobs exist so they can write that citation after you've endangered the public by doing 38 in a 30. It's about safety right, right? Not that a blacked out Taurus, Impala or what not doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. For that matter all surplus units sold at auction should be required to have "Not a cop" etched into the tops of the front and rear windows. Nothing more annoying than getting stuck behind 50 people doing 59mph on the interstate because some ghetto goblin in a ragged out 99 Crown Vic with a spot light is coming up behind. So a ghetto goblin slows traffic down based on the fact that he appears to be driving a cop car and a cop in the same car is invisible and has no deterrence? Nice try but the two are not mutually exclusive. Why don't you articulate why the stealth cars are better instead.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:17:16 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
At the agency I worked for (as a reserve and water cop), they do have performance standards, but to fall short of them you would actually have to try to not do your job. The dedicated traffic cars had an expectation of something like 3 stops and 1 citation per 10 hour shift. The regular deputies had an expectation of something like 1.5 stops per shift, and .33 citations per shift on average. On the other hand, there were definitely some regular patrol deputies (like my dad) that blew up that performance standard by averaging nearly double the traffic deputy's expectation during a regular patrol shift... all while taking calls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I always laugh at all of you who say "quotas" and things like that. Some departments have them, but You all act like they're universal I believe my current ticket book was issued to me in June 2015 and it still has quite a few left in it. They come with 20 in them. Only tickets we every really write are from traffic crashes. Other departments I worked for I wrote speeding and other tickets, but we also had the time to work traffic there Are you a traffic cop? Regular patrol guys probably don't get looked at too closely in numbers but if your agency has a dedicated traffic unit you can bet there's a goal either official or unofficial. At the agency I worked for (as a reserve and water cop), they do have performance standards, but to fall short of them you would actually have to try to not do your job. The dedicated traffic cars had an expectation of something like 3 stops and 1 citation per 10 hour shift. The regular deputies had an expectation of something like 1.5 stops per shift, and .33 citations per shift on average. On the other hand, there were definitely some regular patrol deputies (like my dad) that blew up that performance standard by averaging nearly double the traffic deputy's expectation during a regular patrol shift... all while taking calls. That's setting the bar low. Traffic units in the next town over make stops for chipped windshields and dirty license plates just to keep up their numbers. Obviously it's going to vary from agency to agency. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:18:34 PM EST
[#28]
Quote History"Free" state of Arizona? 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:19:22 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
An officer whose only job is to write tickets better write tickets. Self explanatory Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Are you a traffic cop? Regular patrol guys probably don't get looked at too closely in numbers but if your agency has a dedicated traffic unit you can bet there's a goal either official or unofficial. An officer whose only job is to write tickets better write tickets. Self explanatory Just pointing out to the other guy that quotas certainly do exist. Not on his department or unit but just because he doesn't have to write X amount per shift does not mean others don't. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:20:45 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
"Free" state of Arizona? Quote HistoryQuoted:
"Free" state of Arizona? No pickups with a bunch of guys going to their day jobs. So, no.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:28:26 PM EST
[#31]
 |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:31:48 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
There is that. There are also a few other features that I look for that I don't care to let the popo know about. No need to help them any more than I have to by law. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The funny thing is that it is just as easy to tell a cop car, even if it's completely unmarked as it is to tell a marked car. Always thought it was funny that they went to all the trouble of getting rid or minimizing all the standout features...... And then leave the push bumper on a car. Bam, cop. Nobody else ever puts a push bumper on a frigging impala. The new generation cars don't have that. I can usually tell them first by the cage behind the driver. There is that. There are also a few other features that I look for that I don't care to let the popo know about. No need to help them any more than I have to by law. So we have no idea what would make our unmarked cars stand out from a regular car of the same model? |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:36:07 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's setting the bar low. Traffic units in the next town over make stops for chipped windshields and dirty license plates just to keep up their numbers. Obviously it's going to vary from agency to agency. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I always laugh at all of you who say "quotas" and things like that. Some departments have them, but You all act like they're universal I believe my current ticket book was issued to me in June 2015 and it still has quite a few left in it. They come with 20 in them. Only tickets we every really write are from traffic crashes. Other departments I worked for I wrote speeding and other tickets, but we also had the time to work traffic there Are you a traffic cop? Regular patrol guys probably don't get looked at too closely in numbers but if your agency has a dedicated traffic unit you can bet there's a goal either official or unofficial. At the agency I worked for (as a reserve and water cop), they do have performance standards, but to fall short of them you would actually have to try to not do your job. The dedicated traffic cars had an expectation of something like 3 stops and 1 citation per 10 hour shift. The regular deputies had an expectation of something like 1.5 stops per shift, and .33 citations per shift on average. On the other hand, there were definitely some regular patrol deputies (like my dad) that blew up that performance standard by averaging nearly double the traffic deputy's expectation during a regular patrol shift... all while taking calls. That's setting the bar low. Traffic units in the next town over make stops for chipped windshields and dirty license plates just to keep up their numbers. Obviously it's going to vary from agency to agency. Yeah, like I said, if you're not performing to expectations it is because you are actively trying not to do your job. However, they have actually removed deputies from the traffic details for not meeting expectations. Usually those folks are the "retired on duty" types. One deputy, before he retired, would bang out his expected two warnings and one citation within the first hour of his shift and then vanish for the last 9 hours. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:42:04 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's the minimum marking required by Michigan law for the agency to legally use the vehicle for traffic enforcement. ETA: it's probably a hold-over in the law from when police used to do "side stops" by pulling up beside you and signaling you to pull over. Thus, the marking would be on the passenger side door so that when the driver of the other car looked to the side, they could identify the car as a police car. "Side stops" are also why Michigan State Police have the "hailers" aka "shark fins" on the hoods of their cruisers. They don't perform side stops anymore, but the hailer is retained due to tradition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Some departments run "semi-marked" cars around here. MSP had a couple. One side of the car has full markings. http://i.imgur.com/rOQBraY.jpg Other side is blank. http://i.imgur.com/axqN23s.jpg
That's the minimum marking required by Michigan law for the agency to legally use the vehicle for traffic enforcement. ETA: it's probably a hold-over in the law from when police used to do "side stops" by pulling up beside you and signaling you to pull over. Thus, the marking would be on the passenger side door so that when the driver of the other car looked to the side, they could identify the car as a police car. "Side stops" are also why Michigan State Police have the "hailers" aka "shark fins" on the hoods of their cruisers. They don't perform side stops anymore, but the hailer is retained due to tradition. Thank you. You just answered a question I always forget to ask. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:42:37 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Revenue If the Police did not make the CITY / STATE money, we would not have police. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 6:53:35 PM EST
[#36]
We had a local fire chief murder out his Explorer and do black lettering. The selectmen went ape shit. Not sure why he still has a job lol.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 7:01:05 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
It's still technically not an unmarked car. You just have to look closer. If it helps catch people doing colossolly assholian shit, I'm all for it. If it's used to write 37 in a 35, I'm not. Not saying this is always the case, but many jurisdictions, states, counties, cities may have laws, an ordinance, policies, etc that may specify just how many unmarked cars an agency may have. For whatever reason, good or bad, they skirt the rules and create unmarked marked squads, the slick tops, the blackouts, or the lights in the grill and a magnetic decal they can throw on and off the door. Another practice, tactic for creative budgeting 101... requesting monies for things you know you don't need, but once approved, being able to spend on other shit: a 550 man department requesting the purchase of 550 handcuffs every year (cause those things wear out quickly), or 200 light bars and control heads, knowing they're only going to need 100 Kind of related....every once in while local politicians get caught with blue lights ( or whatever color is associated with police) in their gov ride, and the media will interview them about it...always funny to hear their reasoning from, I got it from the garage like that, or I'm like a first responder so why shouldn't I have police light package. Used to have at least 2 reporters that would walk around in the parking lot of city hall or county commissioners and film their gov rides (wouldn't be hard to find in their reserved parking spaces) |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 7:06:20 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
We had a local fire chief murder out his Explorer and do black lettering. The selectmen went ape shit. Not sure why he still has a job lol. LOL. There a volunteer fireman around here who drives a blacked out charger with antennae, LE Memorial plates and more blue LEDs than a whole PD worth of cruisers combined. I'm waiting for the day a trooper catches him on the highway with that driving the way he does. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 7:07:18 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Why even waste the money on putting "Police" on the side of what is obviously an unmarked speed trap car if you can't read it? Some States statutes state that for traffic enforcement that car must be marked. The subdued lettering is a way to have a marked car, but make it harder to spot. |
|
|
|
Posted: 4/26/2016 7:14:21 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Nice try but the two are not mutually exclusive. Why don't you articulate why the stealth cars are better instead. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Frankly all police vehicles should be clearly marked. None of this bullshit stealth operators. Barring detectives and drug units I tend to agree. A visible cop serves as a deterrent to traffic violations and petty crime in general. This Sneaky Pete jobs exist so they can write that citation after you've endangered the public by doing 38 in a 30. It's about safety right, right? Not that a blacked out Taurus, Impala or what not doesn't stick out like a sore thumb. For that matter all surplus units sold at auction should be required to have "Not a cop" etched into the tops of the front and rear windows. Nothing more annoying than getting stuck behind 50 people doing 59mph on the interstate because some ghetto goblin in a ragged out 99 Crown Vic with a spot light is coming up behind. So a ghetto goblin slows traffic down based on the fact that he appears to be driving a cop car and a cop in the same car is invisible and has no deterrence? Nice try but the two are not mutually exclusive. Why don't you articulate why the stealth cars are better instead. We don't use "stealth cars" if your referring to cars with "ghost" graphics. 200 sworn officers. We have exactly 1 unmarked semi dedicated traffic car. A black Charger with enough lights that instead of a siren it should play the opening notes from Close Encounters over a speaker when the lights are activated instead. On a side note, strangely by GD standards we have never had anyone call in about any of our unmarked cars stopping them when the stop was initiated or during the stop. What we do run is marked cars/SUV's/trucks for patrol. Sergeants have marked slick tops or unmarked cars/SUV's/trucks. Lieutenants have unmarked cars/SUV's/trucks. Guess who generally have more stupid traffic stuff happen in front of them? Guess who rolls up on more suspicious activity and in progress crimes as a result of suspicious activity? Marked cars are great for deterrence and to some degree detection. Unmarked cars will do better at detection. We run a mixed fleet and it works well. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
