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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:47:54 PM EDT
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Atlas shrugged is supposed to be the mature expression of her philosophy. Since her writing was driven by that I guess its fair to say that its her "magnum opus".
From what I understand, by the time Atlas Shrugged was written, Rand had surrounded herself with a cult like following and ostracized those around her that even minorly disagreed with any of her ideas. Likely her writing was viewed in a similar vein, as something beyond criticism, so the result was the same as any situation where someone is surrounded with a bunch of yes men. I mean, really, has it ever worked out when an author writes themselves into their books? Actually, thinking on it, it did when Vonnegut did it, but thats the exception. But its a pretentious and absurd book, I still remember skipping pages trying to find the end of that goofy speech thinking "You've got to be fucking kidding me..." The Fountainhead is definitely a better book, unless you buy into that objectivism stuff. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:48:31 PM EDT
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I guess my point was not made correctly. I was suggesting value in something not of modern pop culture. It was more of a frustrated reaction to the ignorant modern voter. My apologies for the confusion. And yes I've seen her interviews on youtube. I wasn't around back then though ;) edit: I don't believe she would be on any modern talk show. Not because it is super sophisticated, but just doesn't seem like typical modern late night TV. *shrug* I could be wrong. Either way I'll take objectivism over communism, socialism or theism any day. The mind of man is real the rest is idealism and dreams. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't even care which book of hers is best, I'd just like people in America today to turn off the iPhone/tv and read a book. Then go a step further and set down the Stephen King/super market checkout novels, or Dreams of My Father/Audacity Of Hope and try reading something where the author has not appeared on The View or John Stewart Show. You're either joking, or you haven't seen Rand's various appearances on Johnny Carson, Phil Donahue, Tom Snyder, Mike Wallace, etc., etc., back in her day (when there were far fewer such shows, I'll add). The only thing keeping her off Jon Stewart or the View is six feet of dirt. 
I guess my point was not made correctly. I was suggesting value in something not of modern pop culture. It was more of a frustrated reaction to the ignorant modern voter. My apologies for the confusion. And yes I've seen her interviews on youtube. I wasn't around back then though ;) edit: I don't believe she would be on any modern talk show. Not because it is super sophisticated, but just doesn't seem like typical modern late night TV. *shrug* I could be wrong. Either way I'll take objectivism over communism, socialism or theism any day. The mind of man is real the rest is idealism and dreams. +1 Maybe reading Rand wasn't such a big deal for folks brought up in other parts of the country, but for me, growing up in CT and attending a RABIDLY left wing, hippy dippy college in MA it was a huge breath of fresh air and ammunition against the ideologies being espoused by my peers that I just knew were incorrect. |
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Posted: 4/20/2014 8:52:51 PM EDT
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Both were good books.
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Posted: 4/21/2014 7:31:43 AM EDT
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Atlas Shrugged is terrible. It has an exceedingly simple point, that could have been easily (and likely more effectively) communicated in a book the size of Fountainhead, but instead the book is a long and boring (and often poorly written) self-indulgent exercise on the part of Ayn Rand. If she was an excellent writer, that would have been okay, but she is not. Because many of her fans/followers/cultists are so enamored with her, they convince themselves that it MUST be good, instead of looking at her works objectively (get it?  ), and admitting to themselves that Atlas Shrugged is unnecessarily long, boring and poorly written.
I like you. I don't care what that goose says. Geese are notorious liars. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 7:40:00 AM EDT
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It could have been done as a short story. John Galt's "BIG SPEECH" was painful to read. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Atlas Shrugged is terrible. It has an exceedingly simple point, that could have been easily (and likely more effectively) communicated in a book the size of Fountainhead, but instead the book is a long and boring (and often poorly written) self-indulgent exercise on the part of Ayn Rand. If she was an excellent writer, that would have been okay, but she is not. Because many of her fans/followers/cultists are so enamored with her, they convince themselves that it MUST be good, instead of looking at her works objectively (get it? ), and admitting to themselves that Atlas Shrugged is unnecessarily long, boring and poorly written.
It could have been done as a short story. John Galt's "BIG SPEECH" was painful to read. I read the first couple of the 50 pages of his speech and skipped it. A is A. Oh, did I tell you, A is A? Yeah... 50 pages later. A is A. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 7:46:14 AM EDT
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Great story, poorly (over)written.
Can you imagine being married to her? If you say "A is A" one more more time, I'll hit you face with a fucking shovel! |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 7:51:02 AM EDT
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Great story, poorly (over)written. Can you imagine being married to her? If you say "A is A" one more more time, I'll hit you face with a fucking shovel! Her husband named the book.
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Posted: 4/21/2014 7:52:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Her husband named the book. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Great story, poorly (over)written. Can you imagine being married to her? If you say "A is A" one more more time, I'll hit you face with a fucking shovel! Her husband named the book. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 8:00:24 AM EDT
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It was good I think. Same with Fountainhead. But I also think Anthem was the best, supposedly pretty close to an autobiography
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Posted: 4/21/2014 8:16:10 AM EDT
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There was a documentary on Ayn, the fountianhead, and Atlas, right after the first movie came out. The long and short of it was Ayn wrote AS because not enough people "got" the message in fountianhead. AS was written to a diffrent reader than Fountianhead. btw thats the words of the documentary not mine. Havent read fountian yet, but Atlas is so close to what the world is shaping its scary.
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Posted: 4/21/2014 8:20:22 AM EDT
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Because many folks fancy themselves George Washington, but war is scary and hard work. So they leap at the opportunity to "Go Galt" which is basically the lazy cowards version of that. Atlas Shrugged is an undisputed masterpiece of the Western literary tradition. It convinced me that all problems can be solved if we just escape into a distant valley and trade gold pieces there with each other. The bad people will eventually go away. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 9:16:30 AM EDT
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Ah, another AS thread.
I always enjoy reading people pontificate on how bad the book is to make themselves sound smart. The book is bad because I say it is bad . . . Listen to my snarky comments . . . clearly I have the greatest grasp of Atlas Shrugged that has ever existed I don't know how many different ways there are to say "I don't understand that Rand is writing about ideas and then personifying them into characters so I'll bash the characters as unrealistic" but apparently this thread has at least two. And then the people who see it as a bible of sorts . . . And then the people who were told what to think about the book and have read the cliff notes . . . Very rarely do we get "objective" opinions of the book. The book is longer than it needs to be but adequately describes the how/what/why in the entitlement mentality. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 9:25:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always enjoy reading people pontificate on how bad the book is to make themselves sound smart. Im just being misogynistic, not trying to sound smart. Galt is positively dripping with estrogen. He is in a bad relationship with an abusive spouse, so he stops putting out and hides in the bathroom. I don't need to read a 6000000 page book to be bored with that bro. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 9:40:45 AM EDT
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The Fountainhead is a novel that deals with philosophy.
Atlas Shrugged is a philosophical treatise that happens to be formatted as a novel. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 9:44:39 AM EDT
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There was a documentary on Ayn, the fountianhead, and Atlas, right after the first movie came out. The long and short of it was Ayn wrote AS because not enough people "got" the message in fountianhead. AS was written to a diffrent reader than Fountianhead. btw thats the words of the documentary not mine. Havent read fountian yet, but Atlas is so close to what the world is shaping its scary. This. Ayn Rand never intended to write AS. When TF was released people thought it was "an interesting story about architecture" she was so amazed by people's stupidity that she wrote AS as a message which couldn't be misinterpreted. While I feel that We the Living and The Fountainhead are more enjoyable and easier reads, I think the messaging of AS best captures who Ayn was and as such is the defining work of her career. I wish she would have made the movie when she had the chance because watching the first two parts of the recent release has been very disappointing. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 11:06:51 AM EDT
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I always enjoy reading people pontificate on how bad the book is to make themselves sound smart. 
The book is bad. Deal with it. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 11:14:17 AM EDT
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I liked it much better as well
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Posted: 4/21/2014 11:47:36 AM EDT
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Bro, do you even Anthem?
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Posted: 4/21/2014 12:47:48 PM EDT
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I read the first couple of the 50 pages of his speech and skipped it. A is A. Oh, did I tell you, A is A? Yeah... 50 pages later. A is A. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Atlas Shrugged is terrible. It has an exceedingly simple point, that could have been easily (and likely more effectively) communicated in a book the size of Fountainhead, but instead the book is a long and boring (and often poorly written) self-indulgent exercise on the part of Ayn Rand. If she was an excellent writer, that would have been okay, but she is not. Because many of her fans/followers/cultists are so enamored with her, they convince themselves that it MUST be good, instead of looking at her works objectively (get it? ), and admitting to themselves that Atlas Shrugged is unnecessarily long, boring and poorly written.
It could have been done as a short story. John Galt's "BIG SPEECH" was painful to read. I read the first couple of the 50 pages of his speech and skipped it. A is A. Oh, did I tell you, A is A? Yeah... 50 pages later. A is A. You forgot "Existence exists!" |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 12:54:47 PM EDT
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Atlas Shrugged is terrible. It has an exceedingly simple point, that could have been easily (and likely more effectively) communicated in a book the size of Fountainhead, but instead the book is a long and boring (and often poorly written) self-indulgent exercise on the part of Ayn Rand. If she was an excellent writer, that would have been okay, but she is not. Because many of her fans/followers/cultists are so enamored with her, they convince themselves that it MUST be good, instead of looking at her works objectively (get it? ), and admitting to themselves that Atlas Shrugged is unnecessarily long, boring and poorly written.
It could have been done as a short story. John Galt's "BIG SPEECH" was painful to read. I read the first couple of the 50 pages of his speech and skipped it. A is A. Oh, did I tell you, A is A? Yeah... 50 pages later. A is A. You forgot "Existence exists!" That was the most important part! 
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Posted: 4/21/2014 1:08:21 PM EDT
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The Fountainhead is the better book but it goes against her own philosophy. It's weird that she'd write about her main character helping others for nothing.
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Posted: 4/21/2014 1:25:55 PM EDT
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The Fountainhead is the better book but it goes against her own philosophy. It's weird that she'd write about her main character helping others for nothing. Think deeper. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 1:57:56 PM EDT
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Ah, another AS thread. I always enjoy reading people pontificate on how bad the book is to make themselves sound smart. The book is bad because I say it is bad . . . Listen to my snarky comments . . . clearly I have the greatest grasp of Atlas Shrugged that has ever existed I don't know how many different ways there are to say "I don't understand that Rand is writing about ideas and then personifying them into characters so I'll bash the characters as unrealistic" but apparently this thread has at least two. And then the people who see it as a bible of sorts . . . And then the people who were told what to think about the book and have read the cliff notes . . . Very rarely do we get "objective" opinions of the book. The book is longer than it needs to be but adequately describes the how/what/why in the entitlement mentality. It's to easy to pick apart "objectivism". She was deluded into believing that her "philosophy" was going to spark a new age of human enlightenment. On other forums, I've debated it "objectively", but unfortunately her "objectivist" lemmings were unable to have an open mind. There's a reason why her books are fading out of relevance. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 1:59:18 PM EDT
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Good question. Most of her shit needed a good editing. Anthem is my favorite - the short one.
Her basic point for both The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged could have been driven home in a short story. |
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Posted: 4/21/2014 5:45:13 PM EDT
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The Fountainhead is a novel that deals with philosophy. Atlas Shrugged is a philosophical treatise that happens to be formatted as a novel. It's far from philosophical. It seems like she had no idea of Hume's Law.
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Posted: 4/22/2014 4:09:11 AM EDT
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Why is Atlas Shrugged considered Ayn Rand's greatest work? Because the people who compulsively read her stuff have no taste. |
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Posted: 4/22/2014 9:23:52 PM EDT
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Why is Atlas Shrugged considered Ayn Rand's greatest work? Because the people who compulsively read her stuff have no taste. are 14 years old, or haven't grown up. Fixed |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:23:30 AM EDT
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It could have been done as a short story. John Galt's "BIG SPEECH" was painful to read. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Atlas Shrugged is terrible. It has an exceedingly simple point, that could have been easily (and likely more effectively) communicated in a book the size of Fountainhead, but instead the book is a long and boring (and often poorly written) self-indulgent exercise on the part of Ayn Rand. If she was an excellent writer, that would have been okay, but she is not. Because many of her fans/followers/cultists are so enamored with her, they convince themselves that it MUST be good, instead of looking at her works objectively (get it? ), and admitting to themselves that Atlas Shrugged is unnecessarily long, boring and poorly written.
It could have been done as a short story. John Galt's "BIG SPEECH" was painful to read. Her whole habit of making her characters speak in essays is painful. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:24:51 AM EDT
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Fountainhead was better Even that was 100 pages too long. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:39:58 AM EDT
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Let's be honest and admit that it's a terrible read. As is Fountainhead (although it is better). The reason it's so popular is because of people born into money and a family business who put "who is John Galt" stickers on the back of their Harley F-150s or Escalades. There are no rich people putting Galt stickers on Escalades. The people that really believe in going Galt already have and are thus not around to see doing anything. The rich people you do see are either scabs or looters. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:45:43 AM EDT
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what Rand needed was a good editor. Atlas Shrugged would have worked as an 80 page novella and had more impact. I don't know about 80 pages but damn, that was one long-winded woman. I'll bet she spent two hours on the phone ordering take-out. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:14:45 AM EDT
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I always enjoy reading people pontificate on how bad the book is to make themselves sound smart. The book is bad because I say it is bad . . . Already had you covered |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:37:19 AM EDT
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I always enjoy reading people pontificate on how bad the book is to make themselves sound smart. The book is bad because I say it is bad . . . Already had you covered I think Mr. DK said it very well, it is poorly written, that is far from saying that it is bad because I say that it is bad. Interestingly, in light of your statement, I always thought that many people who claim to like it do so to make themselves sound smart. The book strikes me as a very simple minded person with poor communication skills trying to make a simple point by beating it to death. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:58:07 AM EDT
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Interestingly, in light of your statement, I always thought that many people who claim to like it do so to make themselves sound smart. The book strikes me as a very simple minded person with poor communication skills trying to make a simple point by beating it to death. The street does indeed work both ways. The only real enjoyment I get from AS is reading the James/Meigs/Mouch/Boyle arguments . . . its like being the fly on the wall in a DNC meeting. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 7:25:19 AM EDT
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There was a documentary on Ayn, the fountianhead, and Atlas, right after the first movie came out. The long and short of it was Ayn wrote AS because not enough people "got" the message in fountianhead. AS was written to a diffrent reader than Fountianhead. btw thats the words of the documentary not mine. Havent read fountian yet, but Atlas is so close to what the world is shaping its scary. This is my understanding as well. It's essentially a paint-by-numbers essay about objectivism in novel form for the easily distracted. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:09:43 PM EDT
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I don't know about 80 pages but damn, that was one long-winded woman. I'll bet she spent two hours on the phone ordering take-out.
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what Rand needed was a good editor. Atlas Shrugged would have worked as an 80 page novella and had more impact. I don't know about 80 pages but damn, that was one long-winded woman. I'll bet she spent two hours on the phone ordering take-out.
More likely she browbeat one of her sycophantic followers into placing the order while she fooled around with their husband. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:11:12 PM EDT
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I thought that AS was such a poorly written and wordy tome I never took the time to read The Fountainhead, guess I should give it a try.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 1:12:34 PM EDT
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I like both as well.
Atlas Shrugged is more difficult and also more profound. The Fountainhead is better pure literature, and my personal favorite.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 2:11:46 PM EDT
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Let's be honest and admit that it's a terrible read. As is Fountainhead (although it is better). The reason it's so popular is because of people born into money and a family business who put "who is John Galt" stickers on the back of their Harley F-150s or Escalades. I disagree completely. Her books changed the way ... almost everything. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:57:46 PM EDT
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Let's be honest and admit that it's a terrible read. As is Fountainhead (although it is better). The reason it's so popular is because of people born into money and a family business who put "who is John Galt" stickers on the back of their Harley F-150s or Escalades. I disagree completely. Her books changed the way ... almost everything. Her books haven't really done anything. They're the "Twilight" books for fedora tipping atheists. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:58:56 PM EDT
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Let's be honest and admit that it's a terrible read. As is Fountainhead (although it is better). The reason it's so popular is because of people born into money and a family business who put "who is John Galt" stickers on the back of their Harley F-150s or Escalades. I disagree completely. Her books changed the way ... almost everything. Her books haven't really done anything. They're the "Twilight" books for fedora tipping atheists. That'll leave a mark, it's a little too close to home for some devotees.
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:18:54 PM EDT
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I thought that AS was such a poorly written and wordy tome I never took the time to read The Fountainhead, guess I should give it a try. If you've already suffered through AS, then reading The Fountainhead will be of little consolation. I read The Fountainhead first then started AS, got a third of the way into it and started skimming. Ayn Rand's idea of a 'romantic' interlude - male protagonist rapes female protagonist, then gives speech that sounds like a summary of Murray Rothbard's wiki page as written by a 16 year old. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:23:35 PM EDT
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If you've already suffered through AS, then reading The Fountainhead will be of little consolation. I read The Fountainhead first then started AS, got a third of the way into it and started skimming. Ayn Rand's idea of a 'romantic' interlude - male protagonist rapes female protagonist, then gives speech that sounds like a summary of Murray Rothbard's wiki page as written by a 16 year old.
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I thought that AS was such a poorly written and wordy tome I never took the time to read The Fountainhead, guess I should give it a try. If you've already suffered through AS, then reading The Fountainhead will be of little consolation. I read The Fountainhead first then started AS, got a third of the way into it and started skimming. Ayn Rand's idea of a 'romantic' interlude - male protagonist rapes female protagonist, then gives speech that sounds like a summary of Murray Rothbard's wiki page as written by a 16 year old.
Why didn't you love the 87 page speech, with it's own chapter called "This is John Galt speaking."? Huh? Are you unaware that A is A and existence exists? Do you know who John Galt is?
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:24:47 PM EDT
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Better literature? Or more directly connected to today's political reality?
The Fountainhead is a great read. I'll accept it's better literature. Atlas Shrugged outsold the Bible in the months after Obama's first election because people realized that the ideology driving Obama is the same ideology driving the .gov in Atlas Shrugged. If you want to refine both, distill the ideas, and see the outline for Hunger Games and every other piece of dystopian literature, read "Anthem." Short, fabulous. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:25:10 PM EDT
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If you've already suffered through AS, then reading The Fountainhead will be of little consolation. I read The Fountainhead first then started AS, got a third of the way into it and started skimming. Ayn Rand's idea of a 'romantic' interlude - male protagonist rapes female protagonist, then gives speech that sounds like a summary of Murray Rothbard's wiki page as written by a 16 year old.
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I thought that AS was such a poorly written and wordy tome I never took the time to read The Fountainhead, guess I should give it a try. If you've already suffered through AS, then reading The Fountainhead will be of little consolation. I read The Fountainhead first then started AS, got a third of the way into it and started skimming. Ayn Rand's idea of a 'romantic' interlude - male protagonist rapes female protagonist, then gives speech that sounds like a summary of Murray Rothbard's wiki page as written by a 16 year old.
I read the whole damn thing, except the speech. I was going to gouge my eyeballs out with a spoon if I had to read the whole speech. I read the first third of it or so and skimmed/skipped to the next chapter. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:25:29 PM EDT
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I thought that AS was such a poorly written and wordy tome I never took the time to read The Fountainhead, guess I should give it a try. If you've already suffered through AS, then reading The Fountainhead will be of little consolation. I read The Fountainhead first then started AS, got a third of the way into it and started skimming. Ayn Rand's idea of a 'romantic' interlude - male protagonist rapes female protagonist, then gives speech that sounds like a summary of Murray Rothbard's wiki page as written by a 16 year old.
Why didn't you love the 87 page speech, with it's own chapter called "This is John Galt speaking."? Huh? Are you unaware that A is A and existence exists? Do you know who John Galt is? In The Fountainhead, the single chapter speech 'only' went on for 30 pages. 
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:29:12 PM EDT
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Atlas Shrugged outsold the Bible in the months after Obama's first election because people realized that the ideology driving Obama is the same ideology driving the .gov in Atlas Shrugged. AS only seemed to 'outsell' The Bible because there are so many different translations of the book, plus so many used copies, that it's impossible to accurately track sales. I've gotten two Bibles in the past year - one was the DRV offered free on Kindle, the other a 40 year old Jerusalem Translation. Neither would show up on a sales list. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:32:20 PM EDT
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Let's be honest and admit that it's a terrible read. As is Fountainhead (although it is better). The reason it's so popular is because of people born into money and a family business who put "who is John Galt" stickers on the back of their Harley F-150s or Escalades. Wow. Clearly in your view no one ever works hard for their success wanting to keep the rewards they earned. Everyone deserves what someone else earned. Please distinguish between your own world view and that of a "looter." |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:32:51 PM EDT
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I thought that AS was such a poorly written and wordy tome I never took the time to read The Fountainhead, guess I should give it a try. If you've already suffered through AS, then reading The Fountainhead will be of little consolation. I read The Fountainhead first then started AS, got a third of the way into it and started skimming. Ayn Rand's idea of a 'romantic' interlude - male protagonist rapes female protagonist, then gives speech that sounds like a summary of Murray Rothbard's wiki page as written by a 16 year old.
Why didn't you love the 87 page speech, with it's own chapter called "This is John Galt speaking."? Huh? Are you unaware that A is A and existence exists? Do you know who John Galt is? In The Fountainhead, the single chapter speech 'only' went on for 30 pages. It's shameful that either of those "books" got published.
It's even more shameful that so many gobble up the ideas in the books and act enlightened over it, as if they have become John Galt incarnate. |
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Posted: 4/23/2014 5:33:23 PM EDT
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Let's be honest and admit that it's a terrible read. As is Fountainhead (although it is better). The reason it's so popular is because of people born into money and a family business who put "who is John Galt" stickers on the back of their Harley F-150s or Escalades. Holy shit that's a lot of fail in one post. I'm not saying that she's wrong, I just think her writing was lousy. Yes actually you said she was wrong. |
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