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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:47:58 AM EDT
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That’s part of it. Hopefully, it’s durable enough where o won’t need parts any time soon. And If it’s that bad there should be plenty of guns to grab including tons of ARs. This is for my go to weapon. The weapon that won’t break down bec it’s fragile. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.readyman.com/blogs/black-autumn/why-the-ar-15-sucks-for-preppers?fbclid=IwAR2QJhv47QmcWZ50tBdPfsaST8cJfBdbnMDprf46KqLdZVVoHbWabSst__U What do you think of this statement by the above author? I think some of it is true. I myself thought the AR15 was the best all around weapon. But, after owning and shooting other weapons I’m not sure it is as good as I thought. I have DI and GP AR15s. But I’m rethinking my go to weapon as I experience other weapons like the Tavor, Robertson XCR, Scar, B&T APC.... What other weapons of its class have you experienced that you think are better than the AR15? PS it sure how to make the link above hot I know what I would pick. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:48:10 AM EDT
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The author of that garbage is full of shit, and I question his opinion on nearly everything after reading that dumpster fire of an argument.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:49:07 AM EDT
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Just curious, but how many spare parts do you think you will find laying around for that Tavor or SCAR? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.readyman.com/blogs/black-autumn/why-the-ar-15-sucks-for-preppers?fbclid=IwAR2QJhv47QmcWZ50tBdPfsaST8cJfBdbnMDprf46KqLdZVVoHbWabSst__U What do you think of this statement by the above author? I think some of it is true. I myself thought the AR15 was the best all around weapon. But, after owning and shooting other weapons I’m not sure it is as good as I thought. I have DI and GP AR15s. But I’m rethinking my go to weapon as I experience other weapons like the Tavor, Robertson XCR, Scar, B&T APC.... What other weapons of its class have you experienced that you think are better than the AR15? PS it sure how to make the link above hot |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:50:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d rather have a rifle that won’t break down as often to need parts. And if it’s that bad and hard to find parts for a Tavor or scar then there will be plenty of guns laying around to pick up |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:50:42 AM EDT
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Then why are you asking us? Go buy one of those. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So far I like better than my ARs TavorX95 & Aug XCR B&T Para FAL Soon scar16 Also have a Russian AK but it’s not my favorite Just wondering what others thought. And if they have the aaba |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:50:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just shilling for clicks. What he points out is insanity, not seeing the worst of a system. "Flowers don't belong in assault rifles. Some say the star chamber provides accuracy. It does not. Bolt-action sniper rifles don't have star chambers." He doesn't list a bad military/ overseas/ personal experience happening with ARs. (Only people showing up at his range with ammo/guns of unlisted quality) They are just bad because they have flowers. 
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:51:13 AM EDT
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Let's make a list of firearms that the average non gun nut owner can maintain from end to end himself without extraordinary skill or tools -
AR-15 pattern rifles Large frame AR-15 pattern rifles --- crickets --- |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:51:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet if i search around my work bench, I could come up with a complete set of springs or two, with the exception of the buffer spring. Those are a little harder to launch and lose. Yet not one detent spring in the US to be found.... |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:51:31 AM EDT
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exotic flavors suck to get parts for when we are living in a first world utopia, what aboot a zombie fuckpocalypse
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:52:19 AM EDT
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All you need for shtf is an HK91, some face paint, and a first aid kit. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:53:27 AM EDT
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yes but what's the alternative? there's just no "perfect weapon", if the author has any suggestion of a much better alternative, we certainly would love to hear it
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:58:54 AM EDT
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In the military we are taught that the AR-15 is a fine weapon “as long as you maintain it.” Any number of things can cause the lugs not to pass efficiently through the star portion of the chamber: dirt, heat expansion, ice, wobbly bolt carrier or wear and tear. All can cause a bolt to seat incorrectly in the chamber, or not to extract after firing, causing a whole host of malfunctions. This is one of the reasons the forward assist was developed. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 9:59:07 AM EDT
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That article is nearly copy pasta from THR or from Fred's M14 stocks circa 2004. The arguments presented are absolutely RETARDED. Pro Tip: the AKM series of rifles is absolutely garbage for keeping foreign objects/debris out of the action AND they really do jam up easily despite the rambling talking points of 1960's "mouse gun" arguments. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:00:57 AM EDT
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That article is just about the most retarded thing I have read in a good long while.
I gave up on it about half way through. All the article proves is that opinions are like assholes; everybody has one. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:02:46 AM EDT
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To some extent, the guy isn't wrong. The AR is not the gun for a lot of preppers. Of course, the Ruger 10/22 isn't the right gun for a lot of preppers, either. I've known preppers that I would not have trusted with a slinghot, never mind a gun.
Preppers seem to come in two flavors: Smart, careful people who prepare, practice, and train for things they hope will never happen, and whacked-out nutjobs that seemingly can't wait for the Zombie Apocalypse so they can use all the stuff they have. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:04:16 AM EDT
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Same 'Tard that thinks AR's are "too complex for preppers" Also wrote an article about belt-feds for preppers.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:10:05 AM EDT
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Weapons break - often not from shooting them, but from being carried everyday. Things like bent front sight posts, bent barrels, broken/crushed stocks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well OP, while I certainly like other rifles better than the AR, there are a ton of people here who fervently believe the AR is absolutely perfect. They will be along shortly to say so... ETA: I wonder about the "spare parts" argument. In 10's of thousands of rounds, I'm trying to think of a single time I needed to replace a part that actually broke. Battlefield Vegas has a schedule for AR parts replacement, but it starts at something like 5,000 rounds, which is a lifetime in SHTF. Parts for most rifles can be pretty inexpensive, so you can have a small stock of parts before SHTF. And no, I'm not wasting any time on the article. At that point, you may as well carry a spare rifle. I think many people consider “spare parts” for an AR to be an extractor and some springs and things. I have not encountered a situation, across all my firearms (pistol or rifle) where I needed a spare part to return it to functioning condition. (Lord knows I have replaced absolutely scads of parts, but it wasn’t because they needed to be replaced for the firearm to function.) I’m not saying don’t have spare parts or firearms never break, I just question the validity of the argument for SHTF. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:13:54 AM EDT
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No, it's short shorts and a FAL.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All you need for shtf is an HK91, some face paint, and a first aid kit. 
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:14:34 AM EDT
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Same 'Tard that thinks AR's are "too complex for preppers" Also wrote an article about belt-feds for preppers. 
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:15:12 AM EDT
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The first couple paragraphs of that blog serve to warn the reader there is absolutely no reason to continue reading and any opinion the author holds should be discounted as fucking stupid.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:15:41 AM EDT
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Laughs in "Filthy 14."
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:15:50 AM EDT
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Wrong ! Fake news ! That guy is a rump camando !
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:17:40 AM EDT
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Another thing to remember is that a ton of those small, easy-to-lose springs, detents, and other small parts in an AR...
The gun will still function without them. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:18:37 AM EDT
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People with blogs or you tube channels have to always post new content. This content cannot be stuff you already know or you will quit following them. Their good stuff is already used up. So they need some kind of hook. Commonly that hook is an exception to what you know, or a new "easy way" to do something that is not easy. (sharpen your knife, etc) And they just continue to spread bullshit. for example see the youtube guy that sharpens knives by putting 2 nuts on a bolt then puts the bolt in a drill and drags his knife through the gap between the nuts. Simpletons flock to info like that.
My example is an easy one to spot, but as you watch or read all of these you need to be a sceptic. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:19:35 AM EDT
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Oh muh god, he's right. we've been doing it all wrong.
Jackass belongs in a gun store. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:21:39 AM EDT
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Same 'Tard that thinks AR's are "too complex for preppers" Also wrote an article about belt-feds for preppers.  Attached FileLook at my wife shooting my PKM in my avatar 
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:22:09 AM EDT
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If I'm not engaged in combat there are many good choices. 5.56 is not particularly stealthy when fired. And waaaaaaay too powerful for small edibles. But an AR with a drop in 22 conversion kit in your bag would be a viable combo. 
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:23:40 AM EDT
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OP should be banned and 6 months of community service for this crime of a post.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:26:21 AM EDT
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They do have some good blog articles, but when they post something that defies the prepper convention, they seem to get a lot of pushback from their readers.
Case in point: bug out bags They have a couple of posts on the harsh realities of pack weight vs mission success, and seemed to get a lot of pushback … apparently from people who have never tried to actually do this stuff. The harsh reality of not being able to take your ultimate rifle loadout, plate carrier, beanie babies, and everything else found at a gun show seem to trouble their readers - with comments like "a bug out isn't the same as a casual hike, you need to bring moar stuff!" And, to their credit, it seems they even tried to arrange a 65 mile bugout demo (no vehicles) between several of their staffers/contributors, but it doesn't seem to have panned out. The AK stuff obviously panders to their base. It's a safe article for them to post. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:28:21 AM EDT
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It seems to be a bunch of words to justify his personal preference.
It has a long track record and development and has been used all over the world by millions of people successfully. Easily serviced with minimal training and tools. Considering it's flexibility, parts and ammunition availability it is pretty hard to beat. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:28:45 AM EDT
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I’ve had several boutique rifles.
I still have AR’s. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:29:16 AM EDT
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I feel like that was all written sarcastically
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:39:12 AM EDT
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I feel like that was all written sarcastically |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:42:53 AM EDT
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Peppers aren't gearing up for fights, their mentality is to survive long term disaster situations. Self defense, hunting and general utility is how they think.
ARs are fighting rifles and they work really good for that purpose. I've owned every battle rifle out there, in every caliber. They all work, they all do their job. It's all about preference. However, from a practical standpoint an AR has its advantages here in the U.S. above other rifles. Magazines, ammo and spare parts. They can be worked on with basic tools, and can be adapted to other calibers easily. Cops and military have them, they are plentiful. A 10" barreled pistol can be broken in two halves and put in a back pack with 300 rounds, tell me that alone isn't a huge advantage. You're not doing that with most other rifles. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:43:14 AM EDT
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Article is so chock full of failure, I don't know where to begin.
I have several AR15s that have gone 1000 rounds of more with NO cleaning. With anything even resembling a regular maintenance schedule, a properly built AR is dead nuts reliable as well as one of the most accurate rifles in its class. Author is a liar. He is, at best, a REMF who is repeating fish stories from Private Snuffy. At worst, he is a simple gun shop retard with access to a military weapons manual. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:44:29 AM EDT
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I mean...the guy cites Gen. Scales, for fuck's sake.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:46:21 AM EDT
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You can pick any design appart if you have the energy
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:51:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So are you going to carry a spare stock, a spare barrel, and a spare... front sight post...? At that point, you may as well carry a spare rifle. I think many people consider "spare parts" for an AR to be an extractor and some springs and things. I have not encountered a situation, across all my firearms (pistol or rifle) where I needed a spare part to return it to functioning condition. (Lord knows I have replaced absolutely scads of parts, but it wasn't because they needed to be replaced for the firearm to function.) I'm not saying don't have spare parts or firearms never break, I just question the validity of the argument for SHTF. Personally I've got 30+ AR's. If one goes down (and I don't have the part needed laying around), it's parts for the others. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:54:16 AM EDT
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I would say then author is quite retarded. A huge part of prepping is making sure your shit (all of it) has commonality of resources. An AR platform when your nations military's standard issue weapon is virtually the same thing and when it is THE most common rifle in that country? Yes the AR make perfect sense and absolutely does not suck for preps
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:56:02 AM EDT
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who's the idiot ,,,,,,,,, ar is the best all around weapon conceived by man........
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Posted: 3/20/2019 10:56:53 AM EDT
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In shtf there are plenty of parts lying around
And keeping them maintained is not that hard... |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:02:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't that what Larry Vickers did? There was an interview where he mentioned that and came to the same conclusion. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:06:17 AM EDT
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Everyone needs something to worry about apparently......when S really HTF.....nobody is going to care what they have, as long as they have something. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:11:58 AM EDT
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Just curious, but how many spare parts do you think you will find laying around for that Tavor or SCAR? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.readyman.com/blogs/black-autumn/why-the-ar-15-sucks-for-preppers?fbclid=IwAR2QJhv47QmcWZ50tBdPfsaST8cJfBdbnMDprf46KqLdZVVoHbWabSst__U What do you think of this statement by the above author? I think some of it is true. I myself thought the AR15 was the best all around weapon. But, after owning and shooting other weapons I'm not sure it is as good as I thought. I have DI and GP AR15s. But I'm rethinking my go to weapon as I experience other weapons like the Tavor, Robertson XCR, Scar, B&T APC.... What other weapons of its class have you experienced that you think are better than the AR15? PS it sure how to make the link above hot |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:15:08 AM EDT
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Just curious, but how many spare parts do you think you will find laying around for that Tavor or SCAR? @8:09 What parts would you need? Barrel replacements and a few springs? |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:16:16 AM EDT
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Pretty sure Vickers went through back when you had to be at least an E5 and only came from Infantry, Medical, Commo or Engineers to even go to SFAS Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Wasn't that what Larry Vickers did? There was an interview where he mentioned that and came to the same conclusion. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:19:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s part of it. Hopefully, it’s durable enough where o won’t need parts any time soon. And If it’s that bad there should be plenty of guns to grab including tons of ARs. This is for my go to weapon. The weapon that won’t break down bec it’s fragile. |
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:22:41 AM EDT
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lol, preppers
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:24:16 AM EDT
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In an Idealized RKBA realm, the boyscouts would have a field strip and change an M4 firing pin portion of the klondike derby.
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Posted: 3/20/2019 11:25:31 AM EDT
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More of the same ol BS written by someone who doesn’t have the slightest clue in regards to the mechanical action of how the gun operates and why malfunctions occur.
100% fucking derp. |
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