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Posted: 10/3/2022 6:58:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not saying they're exactly apples to apples, but Taurus had no problem retailing G2s and G3s around the $200 price point, and lots of choices from S&W, Stoeger, etc. aren't that much more expensive. I'd question just how much they're losing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just under $200 per pistol. Our Safariland holster system costs more than the gun. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 6:58:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a Glock guy but even I have to say the Sig P 300 series pistols have really cool feature set with the modularity. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL Holy shit the perfection tears are pathetic! But nobody ever uses the modularity because the cost of buying everything (when you can find them) except the FCU is equal to just buying another 320- kinda like how people praise the versatility of an LPVO but leave it on one power. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 6:58:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Sig320 is the covid Vax of handguns. The XD of our decade. Complete cringe POS You have 1911 in your username and call a P320 cringe? |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:01:13 PM EDT
[#4]
Meh. Aussie SOCOMD forces will use Glock 19’s same as most of USSOCOM.
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:01:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No clue, but people have speculated for years how cheap Glocks really were to manufacture. I'm betting Sig isn't loosing too much. And if that's the case, they are really making bank on the Civilian M17s and M18s. Correct. That's why they could pretty much give them to the military. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:09:30 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sig essentially took a loss on every M17/M18 with the price of their contract. They'll make it up with replacement parts. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:09:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Sig320 is the covid Vax of handguns. The XD of our decade. Complete cringe POS You do understand that the shitposting like yours is the exact cringe going on right now, right? You also do know that an internet forum has yet to stop people and military's & police from liking what you don't like, correct? |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:15:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the way that the Austrian Kool-Aide mixes with the salt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL Holy shit the perfection tears are pathetic! I like the way that the Austrian Kool-Aide mixes with the salt. Why not just discuss the Sig? |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:24:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, you two are always the first to bring up Glock in every Sig thread Why not just discuss the Sig? I like Glocks. It is just the Austrian tears make things so much more fun. SIG is dominating the small arms market right now. Glock tears flow and scream that they are junk and all other kinds of BS. It just isn't "Big Army" in various nations that are choosing the "lowest bidder" either. SIG pistols and Carbines are being selected at units that can carry what they want. It is no longer a "Glock world" and the fanboyz scream. It is fun to make fun of them... |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:25:46 PM EDT
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I’m pretty well set on Glocks for full size carry guns but the 320 has really flourished into an awesome pistol…ecosystem?
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:28:19 PM EDT
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The other weapons that were selected:
SIG MCX in .300 as a PDW. The P320 XCarry Pro isn’t the only weapon from SIG Sauer that Australia has selected through LAND 159. The SIG Sauer MCX, in .300 Blackout calibre has also been selected as the Australian Defence Force’s new Personal Defence Weapon System. It’ll provide “dismounted combatants with a light, modular, and compact weapon system that can be rapidly optimised for specialised roles.” Interesting choice. Benelli M3A1. The Benelli M3A1 has been selected as the platform for the Combat Shotgun System requirement. The Australian Department of Defence’s announcement said “operable in semi-automatic or pump-action mode, it is complemented with a red dot sight and white light illuminator.” Accuracy International AX-SR Barrett M107A1 In a few years they will purchase other new systems for the following roles: Close Combatant Assault Rifle, Machine Guns, Direct Fire Support Weapons and Grenades. I assume the SIG MCX in 5.56 will become the standard issue rifle. With them buying the MCX in .300 Blackout it makes a lot of sense they will just buy those for standard issue. I suppose SIG may get a contract for SIGs LMG design. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:28:45 PM EDT
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I said it once, I will say it again.
If the Australian Army had wanted a striker fired polymer framed pistol like a Glock, they should have just got the Glock. 
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:28:49 PM EDT
[#13]
narphenal thread
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:34:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I said it once, I will say it again. If the Australian Army had wanted a striker fired polymer framed pistol like a Glock, they should have just got the Glock. Like a Glock? No. Like a VP70? Yes. Glock isn't the first striker fired pistol. Neither was HK the first striker fired pistol either. But unlike Glock, HK was the first polymer lower striker fired handgun in 9x19. Are you going to call all AR15's a Glock like copy too, now that they've done one finally for the British to trial? |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:35:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Crikey enjoy that long trigger pull mate. Betcha most of them will shoot 7 o’clock.
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:38:02 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Crikey enjoy that long trigger pull mate. You know how I know that you don't own a 320? |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:38:23 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My 320 has functioned fine, but damn, it's gonna take a lot of rounds to get it to where I can shoot it true. I can't stop dragging it to 7 o'clock low. See lol |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:38:24 PM EDT
[#18]
It’s the first truly modular handgun. Of course it’s going to dominate the market. One size fits all. People and missions.
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:40:40 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know how I know that you don't own a 320? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Crikey enjoy that long trigger pull mate. You know how I know that you don't own a 320? Because I live in a communist state to start with. But I do own a Sig p226 MK25. Long ass reset in that bitch. Plus I’ve never shot myself. I’d put the SRT in it but I can’t find an authorized Sig smith in my area. Do it myself voids the warranty. My choices are send it back to Sig to get the work done or sell it. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:40:53 PM EDT
[#20]
FIFY OP
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:41:16 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Sig320 is the covid Vax of handguns. The XD of our decade. Complete cringe POS But that confuses me... P320's don't have the grip zone! (I like Springfield handguns, but I couldn't resist haha). |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:41:26 PM EDT
[#22]
Does it come with Kevlar pants?
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:45:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because I live in a communist state to start with. But I do own a Sig p226 MK25. Long ass reset in that bitch. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Crikey enjoy that long trigger pull mate. You know how I know that you don't own a 320? Because I live in a communist state to start with. But I do own a Sig p226 MK25. Long ass reset in that bitch. The only thing that they have in common is the name. But what do I know? I only comment on things I have actual actual experiences with. Now you on the other hand... And I own a P226 Mk25 myself. Not even close to having the same trigger pulls and resets. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:45:30 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, you two are always the first to bring up Glock in every Sig thread Why not just discuss the Sig? I literally quoted someone picking on Glock earlier in the thread… why don’t you just count? 
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:45:49 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But nobody ever uses the modularity because the cost of buying everything (when you can find them) except the FCU is equal to just buying another 320- kinda like how people praise the versatility of an LPVO but leave it on one power. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:47:36 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But when you drop a gun in australia it falls up instead of hitting the floor which dramatically reduces NDs |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:51:05 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My 320 has functioned fine, but damn, it's gonna take a lot of rounds to get it to where I can shoot it true. I can't stop dragging it to 7 o'clock low. Sink your trigger finger deeper. Might help. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:54:55 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a Glock guy but even I have to say the Sig P 300 series pistols have really cool feature set with the modularity. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL Holy shit the perfection tears are pathetic! All the modular bits and doodads get tossed in a box in the armory. In reality they’re as useless as a Grip Zone. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:55:00 PM EDT
[#29]
At least Australia is closer to India for spare parts.
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:58:51 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just under $200 per pistol. Our Safariland holster system costs more than the gun. Fuck. I knew it was low, but not that low.  I never looked up the NSN catalog price. I did figure the holster was mor expensive than the gun, though. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:59:11 PM EDT
[#31]
Wow surprised they didn’t have Glocks already since they are made in that shithole.
Hopefully some Indian mim parts brick the pistol next time they decide to go for the final solution
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:59:29 PM EDT
[#32]
Psssst…….military purchases are about cost, not quality
Yeah I know. It’s a mind-blower. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:59:44 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hopefully they keep them on a short lanyard. I guess a drop test wasn't part of the testing program. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:00:04 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck. I knew it was low, but not that low. I never looked up the NSN catalog price. I did figure the holster was mor expensive than the gun, though. To be fair the holster is tier one, extremely high quality, and reliable. Unlike the pistol that rides in it. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:01:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:04:05 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The other weapons that were selected: SIG MCX in .300 as a PDW. Interesting choice. Benelli M3A1. Accuracy International AX-SR Barrett M107A1 In a few years they will purchase other new systems for the following roles: Close Combatant Assault Rifle, Machine Guns, Direct Fire Support Weapons and Grenades. I assume the SIG MCX in 5.56 will become the standard issue rifle. With them buying the MCX in .300 Blackout it makes a lot of sense they will just buy those for standard issue. I suppose SIG may get a contract for SIGs LMG design. 5.56 & .300 BO on the same military logistics supply chain? I guess they'll be blowing up a bunch of guns with that kind of ammo logistics. Fucking LOL. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:05:28 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair the holster is tier one, extremely high quality, and reliable. Unlike the pistol that rides in it. I know, I own one.
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:08:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sig essentially took a loss on every M17/M18 with the price of their contract. Took a loss on the contract pistols, while upcharging civvy nutswingers who want the same thing because "muh Army pistols." SIG didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts...but you know this. Also, don't think anyone said it yet, and here you are, so...joglee thread! |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:13:27 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 5.56 & .300 BO on the same military logistics supply chain? I guess they'll be blowing up a bunch of guns with that kind of ammo logistics. Fucking LOL.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:14:47 PM EDT
[#40]
The land down under is so pussified they need guns that fire themselves.
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:19:12 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Best choice for a military handgun right now. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:19:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope that we get a flood of surplus Hipower pistols here in the states. I'd be down for one |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:20:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm still meh on our m18s. I'm qualifying again tomorrow morning. Maybe I'll warm up to them eventually? I've fired two quals on the M17, expert both times. I mean, it's a pistol. I didn't have any particular love nor hate for the M9, I have no particular love nor hate for the M17. I point at targets, pull trigger, the target tends to go down. What more would you like a pistol to do? It's a backup weapon. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:20:58 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Psssst .military purchases are about cost, not quality Yeah I know. It's a mind-blower. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:21:48 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Sig320 is the covid Vax of handguns. The XD of our decade. Complete cringe POS Have you shot one? They shoot nice |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:23:43 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Solid choice. It's a great gun. I like that grip better than the M18. The Wilson Combat grip is better than both. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:24:27 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Psssst…….military purchases are about cost, not quality Yeah I know. It’s a mind-blower. Psssst. Please explain how DEVGRU, CAG and the British SAS/SBS main worry is about cost of their weapons, not function. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:26:30 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Australians are not what we call gun slingers, guess they like the manual safety for the troops. Or like the US contract they underbid glock. Glock didn't even meet the contract by being modular. Maybe if they had actually read and adhered to the requirements they may have done better. I have both Glocks and P320 so don't go there. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:27:49 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm still meh on our m18s. I'm qualifying again tomorrow morning. Maybe I'll warm up to them eventually? Combat hold. People new to Sigs always shoot low. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 8:35:12 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Crikey enjoy that long trigger pull mate. Betcha most of them will shoot 7 o’clock. The P320 has a long trigger pull? The guys that I train that transition from Glocks to SIGs see their scores go up 5-10% on average. |
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