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Quoted: So this sounds like an excuse for rifle but I'm actually serious. I will look at the ranges on the card but I don't write them down or put dials before my run. Cola to me is how I could do if I was on the clock in real life and I doubt I'm going to have a dope card. This is further cemented by the fact I know I want to improve but I'm self aware I'm not going to put the time in to be Stoner. So it's an excellent time for me to just glance at what Strelok says the day before. Go there, and work on memorizing which order to go to, shortest to longest. I prioritize that over memorizing holds/dials or exact distances. Then just go out and run that bitch hard as fuck and see what I got. I loved this year Dale did not allow spot calls. Last year he did and much much more people including myself cleared 700. View Quote I've got a dope card taped to my rifle now after forgetting it on one of my runs... We also didn't allow spotters to give corrections this year... about half the runners cleared rifle with targets out to 550. |
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Quoted: Dope card on rifle and know your gun number. Spot shot next one should be money. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: So this sounds like an excuse for rifle but I'm actually serious. I will look at the ranges on the card but I don't write them down or put dials before my run. Cola to me is how I could do if I was on the clock in real life and I doubt I'm going to have a dope card. This is further cemented by the fact I know I want to improve but I'm self aware I'm not going to put the time in to be Stoner. So it's an excellent time for me to just glance at what Strelok says the day before. Go there, and work on memorizing which order to go to, shortest to longest. I prioritize that over memorizing holds/dials or exact distances. Then just go out and run that bitch hard as fuck and see what I got. I loved this year Dale did not allow spot calls. Last year he did and much much more people including myself cleared 700. Dope card on rifle and know your gun number. Spot shot next one should be money. Yep, don't do that or the wristband. |
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Cola is what really struck home how terrible I was with a handgun btw...
The few shooters I've seen run Staccatos at them have also been people that have actually put the time into handgun shooting to not be awful. |
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Quoted: How did the rifle portion go? With RDS handguns, most cola pistol ranges are getting to a point they aren't too difficult to clear... unless they've got spinners or penalty hits I really need to go put some work in with my rifle View Quote LOL. We had targets at 150 and 190 yards. I hit them with my carry gun (Glock 45 with RMR). |
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Quoted: Dope card on rifle and know your gun number. Spot shot next one should be money. View Quote One of the targets had a back drop that gave you basically no splash with .223 that could be seen with 10x. Later when I was spotting for score with a couple of shooters, I couldn't easily see their splash at 20x either with a spotting scope I would consider not great but also not terrible. |
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Quoted: LOL. We had targets at 150 and 190 yards. I hit them with my carry gun (Glock 45 with RMR). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How did the rifle portion go? With RDS handguns, most cola pistol ranges are getting to a point they aren't too difficult to clear... unless they've got spinners or penalty hits I really need to go put some work in with my rifle LOL. We had targets at 150 and 190 yards. I hit them with my carry gun (Glock 45 with RMR). This event is abnormal. At East I think we'll have one target at 60 and it focuses more on 25-40yd pistol shots with two hostage penalty targets. 150yd pistol is a rarity. Multiple events have various plate racks or spinners but even then, your range time is your range time, so you can game it by shooting one and then moving to rifle and let the star settle. Keystone is (in my words) the shooters cup of Cola. You need to be good at everything, pistol fast, pistol long, rifle long, rifle offhand, rifle one hand. |
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Quoted: So this sounds like an excuse for rifle but I'm actually serious. I will look at the ranges on the card but I don't write them down or put dials before my run. Cola to me is how I could do if I was on the clock in real life and I doubt I'm going to have a dope card. This is further cemented by the fact I know I want to improve but I'm self aware I'm not going to put the time in to be Stoner. So it's an excellent time for me to just glance at what Strelok says the day before. Go there, and work on memorizing which order to go to, shortest to longest. I prioritize that over memorizing holds/dials or exact distances. Then just go out and run that bitch hard as fuck and see what I got. I loved this year Dale did not allow spot calls. Last year he did and much much more people including myself cleared 700. View Quote In real life when I was a squad leader if you were my soldier that was my squad's SDM and issued the appropriate weapon system and you showed up to literally anything without your dope card, well, lets just say we would fucking fix your upper body strength problems right on the spot. |
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Quoted: LOL. We had targets at 150 and 190 yards. I hit them with my carry gun (Glock 45 with RMR). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How did the rifle portion go? With RDS handguns, most cola pistol ranges are getting to a point they aren't too difficult to clear... unless they've got spinners or penalty hits I really need to go put some work in with my rifle LOL. We had targets at 150 and 190 yards. I hit them with my carry gun (Glock 45 with RMR). I'll take my real m19 for 200 yard shots. I swear people think you need a 2k dollar gun plus optic when a $350 revolver has been doing it for 50 plus years. |
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Quoted: I'll take my real m19 for 200 yard shots. I swear people think you need a 2k dollar gun plus optic when a $350 revolver has been doing it for 50 plus years. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How did the rifle portion go? With RDS handguns, most cola pistol ranges are getting to a point they aren't too difficult to clear... unless they've got spinners or penalty hits I really need to go put some work in with my rifle LOL. We had targets at 150 and 190 yards. I hit them with my carry gun (Glock 45 with RMR). I'll take my real m19 for 200 yard shots. I swear people think you need a 2k dollar gun plus optic when a $350 revolver has been doing it for 50 plus years. Aside from skill most people don't practice nor ever expect to shoot pistol at 200yds |
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Quoted: One of the targets had a back drop that gave you basically no splash with .223 that could be seen with 10x. Later when I was spotting for score with a couple of shooters, I couldn't easily see their splash at 20x either with a spotting scope I would consider not great but also not terrible. View Quote That’s when you stop fucking about a find a bare spot close to shoot and see splash or keep stacking on more wind. |
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Quoted: I'll take my real m19 for 200 yard shots. I swear people think you need a 2k dollar gun plus optic when a $350 revolver has been doing it for 50 plus years. View Quote I probably could have made the shots, actually easier, with my 19-5. Those cost more than $350 now, by the way. Also, because of the equipment requirements of this event, with my 19-5 I would have been limited to 12 rounds total, for two stages with a combined 21 targets. Aint nobody cleaning a 21 target course of fire with 12 rounds. |
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Quoted: People are pathetic and use gear as a crutch. I practice out to 300 yards weekly with my colt navy black powder. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Aside from skill most people don't practice nor ever expect to shoot pistol at 200yds People are pathetic and use gear as a crutch. I practice out to 300 yards weekly with my colt navy black powder. Colt Navy is for faggot cheaters, it's Hawkins flint or nothin'! |
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Quoted: Don't you realize all the training value you have been missing out on not making your training harder? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Colt Navy is for faggot cheaters, it's Hawkins flint or nothin'! Don't you realize all the training value you have been missing out on not making your training harder? Are you arguing for bows? Spears? Throwing rocks? Grappling? |
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Quoted: Are you arguing for bows? Spears? Throwing rocks? Grappling? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Colt Navy is for faggot cheaters, it's Hawkins flint or nothin'! Don't you realize all the training value you have been missing out on not making your training harder? Are you arguing for bows? Spears? Throwing rocks? Grappling? Spittin' |
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Quoted: How old is the average Olympic athlete? Lots of teenagers there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It is bizarre how universal that experience is. I mean in PRS you have a teenage boy and a teenage girl who crush everyone at the highest national level on very frequent occasions over the last few years. How old is the average Olympic athlete? Lots of teenagers there. We had some collegiate shooters in Tokyo as well as some middle aged ones. Gold and silver for a couple rifle shooters from the University of Kentucky. |
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Quoted: I've never fired a gun before. Guns kill people. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: That's true my first time shooting this year was at Keystone I've never fired a gun before. Guns kill people. Attached File |
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Quoted: Are you arguing for bows? Spears? Throwing rocks? Grappling? View Quote Yes. For any given training task, the way to improvement is not to give yourself standards for speed and accuracy and increase those standards to be more proficient over the time. That's not what the pros do. The pros use shitty equipment to make their training tasks harder. I was thinking an atlatl should be added to the list as well. |
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Quoted: I probably could have made the shots, actually easier, with my 19-5. Those cost more than $350 now, by the way. Also, because of the equipment requirements of this event, with my 19-5 I would have been limited to 12 rounds total, for two stages with a combined 21 targets. Aint nobody cleaning a 21 target course of fire with 12 rounds. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'll take my real m19 for 200 yard shots. I swear people think you need a 2k dollar gun plus optic when a $350 revolver has been doing it for 50 plus years. I probably could have made the shots, actually easier, with my 19-5. Those cost more than $350 now, by the way. Also, because of the equipment requirements of this event, with my 19-5 I would have been limited to 12 rounds total, for two stages with a combined 21 targets. Aint nobody cleaning a 21 target course of fire with 12 rounds. Then it was a retarded event. Yeah, $350 5 years ago is like $700 now which is still a shame you need to spend 3x as much to get an auto as accurate. |
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Quoted: Are you arguing for bows? Spears? Throwing rocks? Grappling? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Colt Navy is for faggot cheaters, it's Hawkins flint or nothin'! Don't you realize all the training value you have been missing out on not making your training harder? Are you arguing for bows? Spears? Throwing rocks? Grappling? All of it |
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It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian. People tend to forget that.
Pick something reliable that fits and shoot the hell out of it until it becomes an extension of your mind. |
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Quoted: It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian. People tend to forget that. Pick something reliable that fits and shoot the hell out of it until it becomes an extension of your mind. View Quote Those were all the ones that I sold, when out of work. To be honest, they were worked on by some of the best smiths. :-) |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Colt Navy is for faggot cheaters, it's Hawkins flint or nothin'! Don't you realize all the training value you have been missing out on not making your training harder? Are you arguing for bows? Spears? Throwing rocks? Grappling? All of it Based. But what you're really arguing for is weapons familiarization which is admirable. |
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Quoted: I'm buying a Staccato just to make the haters mad View Quote Maybe we can get a group rate in the HTF? I'm a poor who can't afford full boat on those after blowing most of my toy budget after the pistol RDS thread. Heck, I'm so poor (how poor are you?) so poor my NODS are monocular. |
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Quoted: Maybe we can get a group rate in the HTF? I'm a poor who can't afford full boat on those after blowing most of my toy budget after the pistol RDS thread. Heck, I'm so poor (how poor are you?) so poor my NODS are monocular. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm buying a Staccato just to make the haters mad Maybe we can get a group rate in the HTF? I'm a poor who can't afford full boat on those after blowing most of my toy budget after the pistol RDS thread. Heck, I'm so poor (how poor are you?) so poor my NODS are monocular. Mono nods best nods unless government free money |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Colt Navy is for faggot cheaters, it's Hawkins flint or nothin'! Don't you realize all the training value you have been missing out on not making your training harder? Are you arguing for bows? Spears? Throwing rocks? Grappling? All of it CAVE MAN NOISES!!! |
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Quoted: It ain't the arrow, it's the Indian. People tend to forget that. Pick something reliable that fits and shoot the hell out of it until it becomes an extension of your mind. View Quote Exactly! Equipment is irrelevant. That's why bows and arrows ultimately defeated revolvers and lever guns. |
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Quoted: Based. But what you're really arguing for is weapons familiarization which is admirable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Colt Navy is for faggot cheaters, it's Hawkins flint or nothin'! Don't you realize all the training value you have been missing out on not making your training harder? Are you arguing for bows? Spears? Throwing rocks? Grappling? All of it Based. But what you're really arguing for is weapons familiarization which is admirable. Yes You know the safety of M16s, m249, m1014, and m9 are all different and I've used them all effectively in combat? Attached File |
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Quoted: Yes You know the safety of M16s, m249, m1014, and m9 are all different and I've used them all effectively in combat? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/250px-MCMAP1insignia_jpg-2858682.JPG View Quote That slogan is a lot cooler if you're not familiar with MCMAP |
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Quoted: People are pathetic and use gear as a crutch. I practice out to 300 yards weekly with my colt navy black powder. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Aside from skill most people don't practice nor ever expect to shoot pistol at 200yds People are pathetic and use gear as a crutch. I practice out to 300 yards weekly with my colt navy black powder. I squint real hard at night. NV is cheating and will get you killed in the boogaloo. |
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Quoted: I squint real hard at night. NV is cheating and will get you killed in the boogaloo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Aside from skill most people don't practice nor ever expect to shoot pistol at 200yds People are pathetic and use gear as a crutch. I practice out to 300 yards weekly with my colt navy black powder. I squint real hard at night. NV is cheating and will get you killed in the boogaloo. Night vision is a crutch for the weak. Just eat more carrots. |
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Quoted: That slogan is a lot cooler if you're not familiar with MCMAP View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yes You know the safety of M16s, m249, m1014, and m9 are all different and I've used them all effectively in combat? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/433221/250px-MCMAP1insignia_jpg-2858682.JPG That slogan is a lot cooler if you're not familiar with MCMAP I actually liked MCMAP. Super basic and repetitive drills is what makes effective techniques in a real fight. Plus I love body hardening. |
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Quoted: I actually liked MCMAP. Super basic and repetitive drills is what makes effective techniques in a real fight. Plus I love body hardening. View Quote Body hardening was removed sometime between 2006 and 2008. Those repetitive drills might help if they were continuously repeated... but that's not what happens. People get sent to a course for a belt... and then touch on it maybe once a year for PT. |
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Quoted: Body hardening was removed sometime between 2006 and 2008. Those repetitive drills might help if they were continuously repeated... but that's not what happens. People get sent to a course for a belt... and then touch on it maybe once a year for PT. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I actually liked MCMAP. Super basic and repetitive drills is what makes effective techniques in a real fight. Plus I love body hardening. Body hardening was removed sometime between 2006 and 2008. Those repetitive drills might help if they were continuously repeated... but that's not what happens. People get sent to a course for a belt... and then touch on it maybe once a year for PT. Boo I got my first black belt at 12. Tang Soo Do is hardly a combat art but by gosh I swear to God I've used one steps is actually combat. |
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Quoted: To recap: Your autistic SOF Glock rant was a response to a discussion I was having, with someone else, about how out of date their bullshit mentality was. That mentality was/is centered around the idea that better guns with more options and features, somehow aren't better. I've also mentioned several times in this thread that I don't own a Staccato, but do own Glocks. You seemed completely unaware of what was being discussed, but got all triggered, because I mentioned sarcastically and accurately, that the military generally doesn't know shit or care about pistols. Then I just started mocking you for your inability to follow what is being discussed and why... Which you've shown yet again. To recap, this has been how you and another one come out looking in this thread: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/raw-355.gif View Quote |
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Quoted: Maybe we can get a group rate in the HTF? I'm a poor who can't afford full boat on those after blowing most of my toy budget after the pistol RDS thread. Heck, I'm so poor (how poor are you?) so poor my NODS are monocular. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm buying a Staccato just to make the haters mad Maybe we can get a group rate in the HTF? I'm a poor who can't afford full boat on those after blowing most of my toy budget after the pistol RDS thread. Heck, I'm so poor (how poor are you?) so poor my NODS are monocular. Why are you speaking my language so clearly right now Let’s do it |
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Meh, mine was $675 and worth every penny. 1000% better than fantastic plastic. Simply amazing out of the box.
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And some people think a high point carbine is as good as a mp5.
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