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Posted: 2/12/2019 6:36:06 PM EDT

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It's a Trijicon RMR, Type 1. I found a good deal on it soon after I bought the rifle (from a member here) and I figured, being very rugged, that it would be a good fit. It would be nice to have something with a little magnification, but for now I'm happy with this. I don't have any other recommendations for a red dot.

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Thank you.
Trijicon is good.
I'll continue to look into this.

I have a Marlin 1895 / .45-70 standard model w/22" bbl.
Also all the parts to make the version Marlin didn't...
The optic is the last component I need to get to complete this project.
Trip to the gunsmith is slated for next month after the tax return.

Posted: 2/13/2019 1:03:12 AM EDT

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February 2019 issue of The American Rifleman on the bottom lower left corner is a Henry ad for a brass frame .45-70 that is sold only at Friends of NRA events.

Posted: 2/13/2019 1:30:40 AM EDT

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45-70 works good on pigs, but hard on trees...

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Posted: 2/13/2019 2:18:46 AM EDT

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458 SOCOM. I’m good.

Posted: 2/13/2019 2:19:07 AM EDT

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Everybody already knows what I hunt with..but it is 300rum..230 berger at 3220....

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You referenced your rifle but didn't post a picture?

Everybody already knows what I hunt with..but it is 300rum..230 berger at 3220....

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Don’t feel bad, JoeMal...I ask for pix of AKSnowRider’s rifle, too.

Posted: 2/13/2019 2:34:04 AM EDT

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Can I be part of the master race and subdued serf at the same time

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Posted: 2/13/2019 2:36:07 AM EDT

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Can I be part of the master race and subdued serf at the same time

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We shall call thee, “Master Serf!”

Posted: 2/13/2019 8:38:01 AM EDT

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Can I be part of the master race and subdued serf at the same time

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We shall call thee, “Master Serf!”

Posted: 2/13/2019 8:42:27 AM EDT

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Can I be part of the master race and subdued serf at the same time

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I thought only the nobility could own guns in her majesty's realm.

Posted: 2/13/2019 8:43:22 AM EDT

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I want to get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110

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I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

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I want to get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110

@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

Posted: 2/13/2019 9:08:03 AM EDT

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@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

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There is a tourist trap about 5 miles west of the school that has like 5 Bison. He won't let anyone shoot them. He said they are for the tourists to look at on ATV adventures.

Posted: 2/13/2019 9:09:03 AM EDT

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Maybe I should put my 45/70 in the cruiser just in case one breaks out onto the roadway. I think one of those would laugh at 5.56.

Posted: 2/13/2019 9:21:19 AM EDT

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There is a tourist trap about 5 miles west of the school that has like 5 Bison. He won't let anyone shoot them. He said they are for the tourists to look at on ATV adventures.

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@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

There is a tourist trap about 5 miles west of the school that has like 5 Bison. He won't let anyone shoot them. He said they are for the tourists to look at on ATV adventures.

Pretty sure there's one HEADED RIGHT FOR YOU.

Posted: 2/13/2019 9:27:12 AM EDT

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True story, about 32 years ago, I was tracking a burglary suspect through the snow, juvenile burglar never considered that making his egress through snow he would leave tracks. Crossed under a fence line through a field. Middle of the field I got charged by a very very angry bull. 7 rounds of 9mm to put it down. I went to .40 as soon as it hit the market. 9mm might be good enough for people, but not angry bulls.

Posted: 2/13/2019 9:27:39 AM EDT

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@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

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I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Looking now, thanks.

I want to get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110

@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

Have 45-110? Shoot a buffalo.

IT'S THE LAW

Posted: 2/13/2019 9:32:06 AM EDT

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That might not be bad say with 14gr of trailboss under a 340gr bullet.

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That'd be about it!
Might as well shoot down loaded 454's.And not have to hold up 7 lbs of steel and a revolver that don't look like a revolver.

Posted: 2/13/2019 9:43:26 AM EDT

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That'd be about it!
Might as well shoot down loaded 454's.And not have to hold up 7 lbs of steel and a revolver that don't look like a revolver.

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I think i want a raging judge but cant wrap my mind around spending that much for a Taurus.

Posted: 2/13/2019 10:11:42 AM EDT

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@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

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I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Looking now, thanks.

I want to get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110

@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

I would totally do one but I would have to make sure my freezer was barren to fit it all in.

Posted: 2/13/2019 10:12:44 AM EDT

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Are the new Marlins any good? I've been looking for a reasonable J stamped and cant find one under $700 that's decent.

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What would be a cheap .45-70 entry level rifle to look at?

I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Are the new Marlins any good? I've been looking for a reasonable J stamped and cant find one under $700 that's decent.

Mine has functioned with out any issues.

Posted: 2/13/2019 10:14:29 AM EDT

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22lr + shot placement = freezer meat

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You have never had bear then......

Like chewing on a sponge.

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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:16:14 AM EDT

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Mine has functioned with out any issues.

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What would be a cheap .45-70 entry level rifle to look at?

I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Are the new Marlins any good? I've been looking for a reasonable J stamped and cant find one under $700 that's decent.

Mine has functioned with out any issues.

Same here. I installed a Beartooth mercantile safety delete kit and the winged XS sights and it's been extremely reliable and even more accurate. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.

Posted: 2/13/2019 10:31:40 AM EDT

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I would totally do one but I would have to make sure my freezer was barren to fit it all in.

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I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Looking now, thanks.

I want to get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110

@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

I would totally do one but I would have to make sure my freezer was barren to fit it all in.

Sounds like you have an excuse to buy another freezer.

Posted: 2/13/2019 11:28:49 AM EDT

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Joined the Master Race a couple decades ago. I love my lever actions. I need to get a Ranger Precision finger lever for my Guide Gun and Marlin Texan:

Posted: 2/13/2019 11:51:43 AM EDT

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True story, about 32 years ago, I was tracking a burglary suspect through the snow, juvenile burglar never considered that making his egress through snow he would leave tracks. Crossed under a fence line through a field. Middle of the field I got charged by a very very angry bull. 7 rounds of 9mm to put it down. I went to .40 as soon as it hit the market. 9mm might be good enough for people, but not angry bulls.

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Pretty sure there's one HEADED RIGHT FOR YOU.

True story, about 32 years ago, I was tracking a burglary suspect through the snow, juvenile burglar never considered that making his egress through snow he would leave tracks. Crossed under a fence line through a field. Middle of the field I got charged by a very very angry bull. 7 rounds of 9mm to put it down. I went to .40 as soon as it hit the market. 9mm might be good enough for people, but not angry bulls.

Pretty sure any service pistol is undergunned against bulls. Better get a .45-70 handgun.

Posted: 2/13/2019 11:54:35 AM EDT

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Pretty sure any service pistol is undergunned against bulls. Better get a .45-70 handgun.

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While 45/70 is better, I've found .40 sufficient since then. Cow, two horses and a whole lot of deer. Rural life has it's challenges.

Posted: 2/13/2019 1:41:24 PM EDT

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Here's my Winchester-Hotchkiss made in 1879 in 45-70 ............

Posted: 2/13/2019 2:41:51 PM EDT

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True story, about 32 years ago, I was tracking a burglary suspect through the snow, juvenile burglar never considered that making his egress through snow he would leave tracks. Crossed under a fence line through a field. Middle of the field I got charged by a very very angry bull. 7 rounds of 9mm to put it down. I went to .40 as soon as it hit the market. 9mm might be good enough for people, but not angry bulls.

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Pretty sure there's one HEADED RIGHT FOR YOU.

True story, about 32 years ago, I was tracking a burglary suspect through the snow, juvenile burglar never considered that making his egress through snow he would leave tracks. Crossed under a fence line through a field. Middle of the field I got charged by a very very angry bull. 7 rounds of 9mm to put it down. I went to .40 as soon as it hit the market. 9mm might be good enough for people, but not angry bulls.

In Wyoming, we use .22 shot shells, often from a Freedom Arms belt buckle derringer. Shot to the face doesn't hurt them and scares them right off.

Posted: 2/13/2019 2:42:58 PM EDT

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In Wyoming, we use .22 shot shells, often from a Freedom Arms belt buckle derringer. Shot to the face doesn't hurt them and scares them right off.

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Not authorized.

Posted: 2/13/2019 2:47:49 PM EDT

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Short faced bears could be brought back at any time!

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Posted: 2/13/2019 4:08:22 PM EDT

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Sounds like you have an excuse to buy another freezer.

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I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Looking now, thanks.

I want to get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110

@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

I would totally do one but I would have to make sure my freezer was barren to fit it all in.

Sounds like you have an excuse to buy another freezer.

Which makes an excuse to build another garage...I like your thinking on this.

Posted: 2/13/2019 4:52:39 PM EDT

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Which makes an excuse to build another garage...I like your thinking on this.

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I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Looking now, thanks.

I want to get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110

@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

I would totally do one but I would have to make sure my freezer was barren to fit it all in.

Sounds like you have an excuse to buy another freezer.

Which makes an excuse to build another garage...I like your thinking on this.

And another garage means another car...

Posted: 2/13/2019 4:58:38 PM EDT

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Which makes an excuse to build another garage...I like your thinking on this.

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I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Looking now, thanks.

I want to get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110

@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

I would totally do one but I would have to make sure my freezer was barren to fit it all in.

Sounds like you have an excuse to buy another freezer.

Which makes an excuse to build another garage...I like your thinking on this.

Apparently someone makes 720gr bullets for the 45-110.

(Comparison with a 405gr)

Posted: 2/13/2019 5:17:31 PM EDT

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And another garage means another car...

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I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Looking now, thanks.

I want to get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110

@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

I would totally do one but I would have to make sure my freezer was barren to fit it all in.

Sounds like you have an excuse to buy another freezer.

Which makes an excuse to build another garage...I like your thinking on this.

And another garage means another car...

Or an ATV with a plow.

Posted: 2/13/2019 5:18:27 PM EDT

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Apparently someone makes 720gr bullets for the 45-110.

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That really does make me want to go buy one.

Posted: 2/13/2019 5:22:46 PM EDT

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Are the new Marlins any good? I've been looking for a reasonable J stamped and cant find one under $700 that's decent.

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What would be a cheap .45-70 entry level rifle to look at?

I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Are the new Marlins any good? I've been looking for a reasonable J stamped and cant find one under $700 that's decent.

I don’t own any newer Marlins but what I’ve seen lately is much better than a few years back. Personally I would not buy one that I couldn’t inspect first just to be sure . With that said people seem to be happy with the more recent versions.

Posted: 2/13/2019 5:31:22 PM EDT

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Or an ATV with a plow.

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I picked up a Marlin lever action for under $500.

Looking now, thanks.

I want to get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110

@40xb that means a mandatory buffalo hunt. Don't fight the law, obey the law.

I would totally do one but I would have to make sure my freezer was barren to fit it all in.

Sounds like you have an excuse to buy another freezer.

Which makes an excuse to build another garage...I like your thinking on this.

And another garage means another car...

Or an ATV with a plow.

Well you know an ATV with a plow means you need to build a second driveway.

Posted: 2/13/2019 5:59:01 PM EDT

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Posted: 2/13/2019 7:01:54 PM EDT

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Apparently someone makes 720gr bullets for the 45-110.

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I just, well, really, ....are there for sure gonna be giant house eating bears?

Posted: 2/13/2019 7:24:03 PM EDT

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I just, well, really, ....are there for sure gonna be giant house eating bears?

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Apparently someone makes 720gr bullets for the 45-110.

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I just, well, really, ....are there for sure gonna be giant house eating bears?

I mean, regardless that's ridiculous. That's over four times the weight of a .308

Posted: 2/13/2019 8:30:20 PM EDT

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I mean, regardless that's ridiculous. That's over four times the weight of a .308

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Apparently someone makes 720gr bullets for the 45-110.

(Comparison with a 405gr)

http://rs100.pbsrc.com/albums/m15/larryslamps/720gr.jpg?w=480&h=480&fit=clip

I just, well, really, ....are there for sure gonna be giant house eating bears?

I mean, regardless that's ridiculous. That's over four times the weight of a .308

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I need some powder coated ones to load for subsonics

Posted: 2/13/2019 8:39:53 PM EDT

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I need some powder coated ones to load for subsonics

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Apparently someone makes 720gr bullets for the 45-110.

(Comparison with a 405gr)

http://rs100.pbsrc.com/albums/m15/larryslamps/720gr.jpg?w=480&h=480&fit=clip

I just, well, really, ....are there for sure gonna be giant house eating bears?

I mean, regardless that's ridiculous. That's over four times the weight of a .308

https://m0.joe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/12150540/Bleed.gif

I need some powder coated ones to load for subsonics

Found these. LMAOOOO

730 Grain Wide Flat Nose Gas Check (.458)

A very heavy bullet for .458 rifles. It can be used for extreme loads in calibers such as 458 Winchester, 458 Lott, 45-120 Sharps, and also the 45-70. In 45-70, it will not cycle through a lever action however. The overall length of the bullet is 1.690 and the length of the nose from the crimp groove is 0.720.

Posted: 2/13/2019 10:05:40 PM EDT

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Joined the Master Race a couple decades ago. I love my lever actions. I need to get a Ranger Precision finger lever for my Guide Gun and Marlin Texan:

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Sweet!

Posted: 2/13/2019 10:15:36 PM EDT

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Maximum horsepower with minimum weight is nice when you have to climb up here.

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Monica.

Posted: 2/13/2019 10:48:16 PM EDT

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I need one, what should a newbie look for?

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What do you want?

Short and compact?

Historical?

Do you care about loading gates?

Posted: 2/13/2019 11:02:36 PM EDT

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Even buying factory ammo, the 45-70 is cheaper per round than almost any premium 12 or 20 ga "slugs".

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The people claiming .45-70 is overkill are cute. 405 grain bullet, 1200 fps(assuming original spec load). Cheap 12 gauge deer slug , 1 ounce at 1200 fps. 1 ounce is 437.5 grains. The two are very close...but the rifle is easier to shoot well.

Even buying factory ammo, the 45-70 is cheaper per round than almost any premium 12 or 20 ga "slugs".

And 45 cal bullets have better sectional density than the equivalent weight slug.

Posted: 2/13/2019 11:06:39 PM EDT

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True story, about 32 years ago, I was tracking a burglary suspect through the snow, juvenile burglar never considered that making his egress through snow he would leave tracks. Crossed under a fence line through a field. Middle of the field I got charged by a very very angry bull. 7 rounds of 9mm to put it down. I went to .40 as soon as it hit the market. 9mm might be good enough for people, but not angry bulls.

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Pretty sure there's one HEADED RIGHT FOR YOU.

True story, about 32 years ago, I was tracking a burglary suspect through the snow, juvenile burglar never considered that making his egress through snow he would leave tracks. Crossed under a fence line through a field. Middle of the field I got charged by a very very angry bull. 7 rounds of 9mm to put it down. I went to .40 as soon as it hit the market. 9mm might be good enough for people, but not angry bulls.

@shotar
What happened to the suspect?
Who paid for the Bull? PD or suspect?