User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:10:33 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted: Wife’s Lexus with factory mark levinson stereo upgrade (which is absolutely incredible btw, fantastic tone and imaging) CD player isn’t reading CDs. So ask dealership to take a look on scheduled maintenance. The dealership and techs/service manager raised eyebrows like we were fucking aliens. “Sir you can stream music, why would you use a CD?” Because it sounds way way fucking better, that’s why! Why do you think we paid so much for for this stereo option? My more polite response gave more puzzled looks. It boggles their mind that somebody was using the CD player. They probably had to call corporate “we got somebody that listens to CDs and we have no idea what to do”  My dealer told me to call toyota for issues with with the "handshake" between my phone and the car. Ford has a specialist at the dealership for such situations. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:11:54 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 2019 is all he can afford because of the constant lease churn vs buying  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 2019 RX450h 2019... BC 2019 is all he can afford because of the constant lease churn vs buying Oh I bought that Lexus we leased in 2019. 20k miles. Worth 10k more than what we paid at a money factor equivalent of .9% Fucking. Winning. Mmm. Mmm good. Feels good. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:13:01 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I listen to am radio stations. The sound quality is amazing  Actually hd radio is quite good. As long as they use good source recordings. It’s not the medium. It’s the source |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:14:20 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does a CD produce better music than digital audio file? EDIT: Quick google, says that OP is right. Streaming music is compressed and lower quality than CD. My shitty ears certainly cant tell the difference. Either way, the sound system in my truck sounds great to me. I have an SD card full of high quality music plugged into mine. Never even tested the Cd player. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:14:43 PM EDT
[#5]
My K5 has an AM only, big chrome pushbutton, single dash speaker audio system.
Sounds like someone re-transmitting a radio station over a CB. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:15:25 PM EDT
[#6]
My truck has a CD player, I think I only used it a few times, 2014.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:18:51 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would you use a CD? Because I still have my whole case full. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:27:04 PM EDT
[#8]
I seriously had to go to the garage to confirm my ‘18 Tacoma actually does have a CD player because I’ve never used it.
I don’t specifically remember throwing all of my CDs in the trash, but I know I don’t have them anymore. It’s like one day they just disappeared.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:33:56 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted: Wife’s Lexus with factory mark levinson stereo upgrade (which is absolutely incredible btw, fantastic tone and imaging) CD player isn’t reading CDs. So ask dealership to take a look on scheduled maintenance. The dealership and techs/service manager raised eyebrows like we were fucking aliens. “Sir you can stream music, why would you use a CD?” Because it sounds way way fucking better, that’s why! Why do you think we paid so much for for this stereo option? My more polite response gave more puzzled looks. It boggles their mind that somebody was using the CD player. They probably had to call corporate “we got somebody that listens to CDs and we have no idea what to do” Rip your CD's put it on USB stick or on your phone and play through the bluetooth. You can do lossless that way. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:34:38 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CDs sound like shit.  I have a turntable on my passenger seat.Love this place. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:35:52 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did your last car have an 8-track? My first car did. '76 280z, from my grandfather when he passed away. I got it in 95. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:36:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Oh, you kids. Everyone knows that disks 320khz sampled to mp3 are just as good at the disk. Rip your own FTW.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:38:39 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: vinyl is best  Me and the wife found 2 huge boxes of 33 1\3 vinyls in the basement. Some very collectable albums. We made a shit load of money off of them. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:39:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rip your CD collection to FLAC I do that and from those create 256kb MP3s for car and phone use. It's good enough for car because of road and vehicle noise. I ripped everything to FLAC and boxed it up years ago. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:40:15 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most professional audiophiles cannot tell the difference between a CD and a 320kbps mp3. Even less will tell the difference between FLAC and a CD. That said, CD player is broken, they should fix it. This is bullshit. On a proper hi-fi or even a good mid-fi system, it is easy to discern the difference between 320/mp3 and a CD. FLAC is lossless, so you wouldn't be able to tell anyway. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:47:16 PM EDT
[#16]
It was surprising ti me how many people were whining when GM' Canyon/Colorado came out in 2015 without a CD player. The GM Colorado/Canyon website was filled with a bunch of folks very disappointed not to have a CD player. It was like they'd never heard of thumb drives for the usb port or streaming audio.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:47:19 PM EDT
[#17]
You could make your own files. Much better than changing Discs. I have my entire library on my phone, over 800 CD's.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:48:44 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would you use a CD? Because a CD sounds way better than a streamed file...there is no comparison....my 2020 Landcruiser has a CD player with the JBL Premium sou d system and I can assure you the CD sounds much better than Spotify streamed. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:50:52 PM EDT
[#19]
When the cd player is broke you buy stocks…
The the cd player is fixed you buy more stocks… This is how you retire early and but a Mercedes with Bluetooth |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:51:48 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: do they still sell music on CD?? seriously. do they? Yes they do, CD's are still very popular |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:56:32 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an SD card full of high quality music plugged into mine. Never even tested the Cd player. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does a CD produce better music than digital audio file? EDIT: Quick google, says that OP is right. Streaming music is compressed and lower quality than CD. My shitty ears certainly cant tell the difference. Either way, the sound system in my truck sounds great to me. I have an SD card full of high quality music plugged into mine. Never even tested the Cd player. What was the source of your “high quality music”? Most folks haven’t heard a good recording their entire life. Dynamic compressed absolute shit. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 7:59:01 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Rip your CD's put it on USB stick or on your phone and play through the bluetooth. You can do lossless that way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wife’s Lexus with factory mark levinson stereo upgrade (which is absolutely incredible btw, fantastic tone and imaging) CD player isn’t reading CDs. So ask dealership to take a look on scheduled maintenance. The dealership and techs/service manager raised eyebrows like we were fucking aliens. “Sir you can stream music, why would you use a CD?” Because it sounds way way fucking better, that’s why! Why do you think we paid so much for for this stereo option? My more polite response gave more puzzled looks. It boggles their mind that somebody was using the CD player. They probably had to call corporate “we got somebody that listens to CDs and we have no idea what to do” Rip your CD's put it on USB stick or on your phone and play through the bluetooth. You can do lossless that way. Still sounds like shit. That’s the thing about a good stereo. You hear the absolute shit of the recording. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:00:16 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, you kids. Everyone knows that disks 320khz sampled to mp3 are just as good at the disk. Rip your own FTW. And your CD was compressed to shit. Garbage in, garbage out. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:00:44 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 8 tracks sound better especially in hi fi....get some sparkomatic 6x9s and you are rockin. Don’t forget the Kraco player. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:01:00 PM EDT
[#25]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:01:52 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is bullshit. On a proper hi-fi or even a good mid-fi system, it is easy to discern the difference between 320/mp3 and a CD. FLAC is lossless, so you wouldn't be able to tell anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Most professional audiophiles cannot tell the difference between a CD and a 320kbps mp3. Even less will tell the difference between FLAC and a CD. That said, CD player is broken, they should fix it. This is bullshit. On a proper hi-fi or even a good mid-fi system, it is easy to discern the difference between 320/mp3 and a CD. FLAC is lossless, so you wouldn't be able to tell anyway. Depends on the CD recording and compression. Loudness wars happened. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:02:34 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And your CD was compressed to shit. Garbage in, garbage out. I have plenty of CDs with great dynamic range. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:03:11 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted: I know you are trying to sound smart by bringing up the sample rate here but... You're joking right? CDs are uncompressed digital audio. Each track is like 500-700 MB. Spotify songs are probably mid-low MP3 quality. Spotify has different quality settings. People using the web player get 128kbit/s if they're on the free version and 256kbit/s if they're premium subscribers. People using apps on PCs or mobile devices can choose 24k, 96k, and 160k levels depending upon their bandwidth and data, and premium users have an additional 320k option. Premium users also have the ability to save music on their mobile devices so they aren't using data when out and about. Quoted: And transmitted to your audio system via Bluetooth? Therein lies the issue. USB and WiFi based options like Apple Car Play and Android Auto also exist... |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:04:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they are older recordings before the were dynamically compressed to shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Spotify and CD's both sample at 44.1 KHZ. How can your CD sound better? Because they are older recordings before the were dynamically compressed to shit. Not to mention when the artist gets cancelled for not fitting the narrative of the day, if you bought a CD you cam still listen to the music. Hell, I still listen to over the air radio stations and when someone within 3 car lengths of me is using an FM transmitter I want to put them in the ditch-it overrides my radio. 1. How are transmitters legal? All electronics have a label mentioning how they can't broadcast any interference. 2. Why are these fuckers ALWAYS 20-something white guys, listening to fucking rap? |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:07:23 PM EDT
[#30]
Hmm.. that’s interesting. I think that both of our cars have a CD player behind the faceplate. But have never tried to play one.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:08:01 PM EDT
[#31]
you think you can actually tell the difference between a high quality mp4 and a cd in a moving vehicle?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:09:31 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ha My dad has a 2000 Explorer as a spare vehicle. Display LED stopped working. I bought all the stuff to install a bluetooth receiver for him. When he learned that he wouldn't be able to play his TAPES any longer, he said no thanks, can you please find a way to fix the screen so I can keep the stock stereo? Playing tapes was more important than being able to connect his phone and do hands free calling, etc. I never met your Dad but I like him already. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:10:17 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they are older recordings before the were dynamically compressed to shit. just rip down the cds in a high quality format |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:11:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's very rude of them, boomers should get the same customer service as normal people
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:11:03 PM EDT
[#35]
I have some Sony's from the mid 80's that I was told should not have left the place. Not sure, they are a hell of a lot thicker than standard cds and sound strikingly better than the same cd bought from stores. I got them from a little shop in Japan, they were behind the counter and I inquired about them. Gentleman sold them to me for around 20 US at the time, if I remember correctly.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:12:54 PM EDT
[#36]
Is this a 1996 Lexus? Do they even offer CD players anymore? The future is now Old Man
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:13:22 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is pretty much the correct answer. CDs aren't magic. They are just another physical storage medium for digital information, and they often are subject to the same compression and sampling shenanigans as other digital mediums. There's also the issue of cars being noisy and acoustically terrible environments. Something USB or Apple Car Play/Android Auto based would likely match the quality of CDs with far greater convenience. I don't think I've had the phone book size CD binder in a vehicle since 2009, and I don't miss that even a little bit. OP deserves to have his vehicle made whole, but let's be realistic about what's being accomplished here. I have a cd player in my car, I have 1 cd in there with like 4 hours of music on it in mp3 format ripped down from youtube mp4 videos. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:13:52 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I used to have a CB radio and an 8 track Me too...
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:14:21 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most professional audiophiles cannot tell the difference between a CD and a 320kbps mp3. Even less will tell the difference between FLAC and a CD. That said, CD player is broken, they should fix it. I got an album that came with Flac and MP3 files, I have Klipsch reference powered bookshelves a Reference Sub in my office and I couldn't tell the difference between the two. I might be able to tell the difference on a good pair of headphones but I so rarely listen to headphones any more. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:18:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know you are trying to sound smart by bringing up the sample rate here but... You're joking right? CDs are uncompressed digital audio. Each track is like 50-70 MB. Spotify songs are probably mid-low MP3 quality. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Spotify and CD's both sample at 44.1 KHZ. How can your CD sound better? I know you are trying to sound smart by bringing up the sample rate here but... You're joking right? CDs are uncompressed digital audio. Each track is like 50-70 MB. Spotify songs are probably mid-low MP3 quality. Fixed. CDs hold 650 to 700 MB total. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:18:03 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted: Wife’s Lexus with factory mark levinson stereo upgrade (which is absolutely incredible btw, fantastic tone and imaging) CD player isn’t reading CDs. So ask dealership to take a look on scheduled maintenance. The dealership and techs/service manager raised eyebrows like we were fucking aliens. “Sir you can stream music, why would you use a CD?” Because it sounds way way fucking better, that’s why! Why do you think we paid so much for for this stereo option? My more polite response gave more puzzled looks. It boggles their mind that somebody was using the CD player. They probably had to call corporate “we got somebody that listens to CDs and we have no idea what to do” Did the service manager ever say that they can not troubleshoot and repair your system? Did he ever suggest that it would not be covered under your manufacture’s warranty? Of course not. We’re they surprised that you are actually using the CD player? Of course. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:20:52 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did the service manager ever say that they can not troubleshoot and repair your system? Did he ever suggest that it would not be covered under your manufacture's warranty? Of course not. We're they surprised that you are actually using the CD player? Of course. OP's car is a 2019, not a 1999. I don't think their surprise is really warranted in this case. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:21:40 PM EDT
[#43]
I drive a 22 year old Ford with a deck that plays MP3 and everything else.
I’ve been on those long, empty, UFO probable roads in New Mexico and always had music. But I’ve always been a trend setter, kinda cutting edge but I don’t brag. Had a ‘72 Chevelle with in dash cassette and under dash 8 track. Was working on a gimbal stabilizing system for the turntable but never finished. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:22:44 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is bullshit. On a proper hi-fi or even a good mid-fi system, it is easy to discern the difference between 320/mp3 and a CD. FLAC is lossless, so you wouldn't be able to tell anyway. I don't pay attention so such details. I am not an audiophile. However, I'm sure most folks would can tell the difference in the frame rates of Televisions with high refresh rate playing high frame rate footage vs standard 24 fps film framerates and the "Soap Opera Effect". I would not be surprised if our brains treat audio the same way. Watch enough high frame rate footage and you'll easily see the framerate stutter of slower framerates if you switch quickly, but the stuttering slowly dissipates as the brain gets accustomed to it and I guess "fills the blanks" probably not much more different than the software in the TVs do with "Motion Smoothing" software making up frames to fill the blanks in-between just one is subconscious and biological. I used to really hate those settings, and agree that things should probably be watched in the framerate they are filmed in artistically... but there are some programs like HD nature shows or drone footage of landscapes and such that does look pretty awesome to me even with the fake framerate the software makes. Edit: How about Mini disc players... anyone have those in their car? |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:26:46 PM EDT
[#45]
CD’s, Amazon Music, Apple Music, and Spotify all sample at 44.1kHz. And all three have to compress the files
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:28:26 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: you think you can actually tell the difference between a high quality mp4 and a cd in a moving vehicle? It’s not even close. Depends on the source the mp4 came from. Like I said most people haven’t heard a good recording |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:28:27 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP's car is a 2019, not a 1999. I don't think their surprise is really warranted in this case. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did the service manager ever say that they can not troubleshoot and repair your system? Did he ever suggest that it would not be covered under your manufacture's warranty? Of course not. We're they surprised that you are actually using the CD player? Of course. OP's car is a 2019, not a 1999. I don't think their surprise is really warranted in this case. Of course it is. Maybe 3% of drivers of vehicles equipped with a CD player actually use it today. I just made that stat up. I think I erred on the side of caution. And I’m much older than the OP. |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:28:42 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's very rude of them, boomers should get the same customer service as |
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:31:00 PM EDT
[#49]
Forgot to quote and now can’t remember which one it was. Yes I’m drinking
|
|
|
|
Posted: 12/13/2022 8:33:06 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not even close. Depends on the source the mp4 came from. Like I said most people haven’t heard a good recording I said high quality. yeah i can tell a garbage mp3 but not one i ripped myself or just a good source one. you can get an optical drive for your pc for like $20 and make some darn good mp3s from your cds at 320kbps i doubt you can tell. |
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
