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Posted: 10/24/2023 1:46:00 PM EDT
[#1]
No, I won't even make half of that.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 1:46:34 PM EDT
[#2]
Yes, but my tax return says I'm poor...
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Posted: 10/24/2023 1:49:27 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14563/IMG_8662-3002675.jpg About 20% of the country makes over 150k That’s household. OP states individual income, so it’s much less than that. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 1:53:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Already did, what do I win? Likely a vicious ass fuckin' by uncle sugar without any lube... |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 1:54:23 PM EDT
[#5]
Nope. Not even close.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 1:58:27 PM EDT
[#6]
That would be a ton of extra time at the truck stop. I probably would get Carpal tunnel syndrome first.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 1:58:53 PM EDT
[#7]
 I've been a Rich Man and I've been a Poor Man |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 1:59:22 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be a ton of extra time at the truck stop. I probably would get Carpal tunnel syndrome first. 
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:01:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be a ton of extra time at the truck stop. I probably would get Carpal tunnel syndrome first. Or lockjaw. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:02:56 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My SS statement tells the tale. 93 graduated highschool. Fucked around until joining Navy in 1998. Left Navy 2007. I don't mind sharing, especially since there are the usual naysayers in the thread. https://i.postimg.cc/1XGZqVFk/Screenshot-20231024-105606.png That’s baller dude! 
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:23:04 PM EDT
[#11]
Yes, have been doing so for several years now.
For those who voted no on the pole, you’re not poor if you’re making less than the top 5% individual income. Except for a few outliers very few will make a lot of money in small towns and rural communities. You may have to relocate to another city or even state. Been there, done that and rural areas are not for me. Income isn’t limited to your sole w2 job. I would imagine that several people that voted yes have several sources of income. We all have the same 24 hours a day, so it comes down to how you maximize it the most. Get off the couch and go make some money. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:25:33 PM EDT
[#12]
For all the Downtrodden doubters: Here ya Go;
The Standard household achieves millionaire status. Eta, holy Fuck, I am far below my peers. All those assholes who bought heavily in Faang stocks and BC. The mean is substantially higher than the median because it is boosted by the top 10% of earners, who have a net worth, on average, of $6.63 million, according to the Fed. Meanwhile, households in the bottom 10% had a mean net worth of $5,300 in 2022. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:26:39 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Personally I'm an older millennial software dork who turned a hobby in to a career. I know quite a few engineers who are 5 - 10 years younger than I am and make similar pay. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: WTF I won't even make half that. No wonder this website hates "that thar socialism talk" you're all a bunch of rich boomers.  Personally I'm an older millennial software dork who turned a hobby in to a career. I know quite a few engineers who are 5 - 10 years younger than I am and make similar pay. And there's the hate for those with more opportunities or for those who made more opportunities. That's the thing about life - not everyone gets the same result, but that doesn't mean those with more deserve resentment. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:29:32 PM EDT
[#14]
The 401K match aught to put me over.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:32:53 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And there's the hate for those with more opportunities or for those who made more opportunities. That's the thing about life - not everyone gets the same result, but that doesn't mean those with more deserve resentment. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: WTF I won't even make half that. No wonder this website hates "that thar socialism talk" you're all a bunch of rich boomers. Personally I'm an older millennial software dork who turned a hobby in to a career. I know quite a few engineers who are 5 - 10 years younger than I am and make similar pay. And there's the hate for those with more opportunities or for those who made more opportunities. That's the thing about life - not everyone gets the same result, but that doesn't mean those with more deserve resentment. Yeah I technically a millennial, or so I am told. People need to stop making excuses for their own failings. Young or old doesn't matter, the ONLY limitations you truly face in life are the ones you place on yourself. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:33:08 PM EDT
[#16]
Closer to twice that. Community college dropout. Started in the mail room at an investment firm when I was in my early twenties.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:34:41 PM EDT
[#17]
nowhere close to that
and I work tons of hours  |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:35:40 PM EDT
[#18]
Household...yes.
Individually...no. Wife and I make close to the same money +/- $20k. Both are very low 6 figure. I put 5% my employer matches +3%...so 8%. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:37:33 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Household...yes. Individually...no. I put 5% my employer matches +3%...so 8%. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:38:22 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s baller dude! He fails to mention he pisses neon and his hair has morphed into a permanent orange afro...lol All kidding aside, that is a hard career path. I've met quite a few Nukes and all but one is doing really well. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:38:48 PM EDT
[#21]
One thing I wills say, is that life was a lot more simple and enjoyable when I made 70K. I may have better have more than tripled my pay but it's not easy. I never planned to be in leadership, nor did I think i wanted to, when I was called to do it, I did. I never made moves for money, the money just came from the next thing I was asked to do. A lot of my peers would say the same.
A more proud of what I do, than how much I am paid to do it. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:39:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In 2011-2012 I was working as an ATM repairman making about $30k a year. Then I sold all my belongings and rode to San Francisco on my motorcycle without any job or housing leads and spent 3 months crashing couches and sleeping in flea-infested hostels while taking any interview I could wrangle to break into the tech industry. By late 2015 I had made it into Google as a software engineer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I need to do another thread on this soon. Many of us literally Have pulled ourselves up by our bootstraps. Those are stories which need to be told. In 2011-2012 I was working as an ATM repairman making about $30k a year. Then I sold all my belongings and rode to San Francisco on my motorcycle without any job or housing leads and spent 3 months crashing couches and sleeping in flea-infested hostels while taking any interview I could wrangle to break into the tech industry. By late 2015 I had made it into Google as a software engineer. Awesome. I’ll be sure to @ you and the other success stories for my thread. I feel like people need to understand the American Dream is not dead. Conservatives and Republicans in general have done a lousy job selling it. Many Young people have all but given up. Meanwhile, Immigrants come here full of ambition and thrash our cynical Domestic kids in every category. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:41:45 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My company does a 6% match. I've heard Lockheed Martin does 9%. Yup I have heard that as well. We are a quite fortunate, I get 12% up front paid in, I think I am required to put in 5% minimum as part of the plan. We have janitors and secretary's that retire as millionaires. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:42:37 PM EDT
[#24]
No, I personally will be a few K short.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:45:34 PM EDT
[#25]
Probably just shy this year
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:51:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Many of us started out poor. Being poor, is no excuse for being Communist. Don’t Covet your neighbors. Work harder than them. Hold Yourself to a higher standard. If you give in, to all the lowest base instincts of human nature, you’ve already lost. Demand more of yourself. Nobody is coming to the rescue. Despite the empty promises, it’s just You, vs. the Dog Eat Dog world. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: WTF I won't even make half that. No wonder this website hates "that thar socialism talk" you're all a bunch of rich boomers. Many of us started out poor. Being poor, is no excuse for being Communist. Don’t Covet your neighbors. Work harder than them. Hold Yourself to a higher standard. If you give in, to all the lowest base instincts of human nature, you’ve already lost. Demand more of yourself. Nobody is coming to the rescue. Despite the empty promises, it’s just You, vs. the Dog Eat Dog world. I'm not just worried about me, I'm worried about the half of the country that makes even less than I do. What about them? I'm going to bust my ass but still be there for my kids and we will pinch pennies so my wife can be home with the kids and we can still afford a house. But half of the country can't even do that. They won't ever have a home, and the kids my children plays with will come from either broken homes or homes where both parents work, or with absentee fathers, and we accept this, because "thou shall not covet"? How about "Thou shall not yacht while thine neighbors toil" Bottom line is this: Individualism is a fools errand, all endeavors besides a single bedroom cabin in the woods are collective in nature. The left invests literally all of their time in making sure conservatives NEVER wake up to the power of collective action. They want you atomized and alienated, thoroughly indoctrinated against any group identity. The success of any nation or civilization lies in its ability to harness the collective energy of its people. Profit motives are useful and markets are essential for assigning value, but exploitation and watching your nation take a nosedive into 3rd world status and just shrugging because "muh bootstraps" is a bullshit excuse and I would still feel this way if I was making a million a year or more, because I want my kids to grow up in a country that's worth living in. That is the most precious gift I could ever give them. Cars, houses, guns, private schools and law degrees mean NOTHING if they grow up in a shit hole nation that's parasitized by foreign powers and no one looks after their interests because of their identity or their politics. But enjoy your compounds with barbed wire fences, or whatever your plan is for having a decent standard of living in Brazil 2.0. I'm sure that's a sustainable plan that will never backfire. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:51:49 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 65k base 90k commission 10k bonus 9900 401k match 62k wife salary That’s the kind of sales position I’m looking for and am highly experienced in. Is your company hiring? @frankinwr |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:53:25 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted: Not even close. Quoted: Nope Quoted: I have never made 100K, no less 150K. I have a master's degree and the most I ever made was 73k as assistant principal one year and I worked my ass off for that, was not worth it. Most of my life I made less than 50k (teacher) and my penalty early retirement is significantly less than that. My wife has 30 years teaching experience outside FL - she doesn't get paid for it (outside state) here. She gets paid like a new teacher salary about 50k. One of has to work as we can't live on our retirement alone. We would not make 150k with our retirement and her working full time here. We have never made that much in our life.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:55:17 PM EDT
[#29]
I'll be just short. I've only had limited overtime this year and thats usually what puts me over the line.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:58:10 PM EDT
[#30]
$200k base.
$120k cash bonus $203k LTI $32K 401k match. 2023 #s. Still can’t afford a team membership. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 2:59:16 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not even close. Me either, bru.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:30:47 PM EDT
[#32]
I retired this year so no
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:52:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Yes, but it took me a while to get there. If any of you are in a position to give advice to young people who will listen, tell them to invest in their 401k even if it hurts. I’m glad I did, even when I was a poor.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:53:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Any money I make, the government takes.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:55:23 PM EDT
[#35]
If I worked 40 hours a week I could make over that but I'm off 2-3 months a year and most weeks are rarely work 3 days.
If it wasn't for inflation I'd be GD rich off what I am doing now
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Posted: 10/24/2023 3:59:36 PM EDT
[#36]
yep......
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:02:27 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He fails to mention he pisses neon and his hair has morphed into a permanent orange afro...lol All kidding aside, that is a hard career path. I've met quite a few Nukes and all but one is doing really well. One of my bosses at work was a nuclear power plant “operator” in Texas. We both work for Big Oil now. He might be real close to my age. I’m 51. He is eyeballing retirement. He even bought some land in Vermont or Maine. He is X-Navy and was on submarines. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:04:07 PM EDT
[#38]
I really am afraid to do my taxes for 2023. Just my facebook page some months has been earning that.
It's hard to believe.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:07:33 PM EDT
[#39]
Nunya.
6 figures plus varying 401k match and bonus. Will still be under $150k. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:07:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My company does a 6% match. I've heard Lockheed Martin does 9%. P66 does an 8% match. And you are automatically locked in yourself at 8%. You can go higher if you want to, like I am doing now to make it to the $30,000 pre-tax max. I thought for sure we were going out on strike back in May or June, so I dialed my part of the 401K contribution down 8%. (So I would have more money in my pocket). |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:08:33 PM EDT
[#41]
Yes
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:08:54 PM EDT
[#42]
Not even close.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:15:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a master's degree and the most I ever made was 73k as assistant principal one year and I worked my ass off for that, was not worth it. Most of my life I made less than 50k (teacher) and my penalty early retirement is significantly less than that. My wife has 30 years teaching experience outside FL - she doesn't get paid for it (outside state) here. She gets paid like a new teacher salary about 50k. One of has to work as we can't live on our retirement alone. We would not make 150k with our retirement and her working full time here. We have never made that much in our life. Granted this was 20 years ago, but I thought I would try to go to grad school for psychology. I was taking pre-requisites as like an undergrad, when a grad student in the psych lab clued me in about “The Book”. This was at Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville. So I went to the circulation desk at their library and asked for “The Book”. Turns out it listed all the professors’s salaries. In the psych department, there were only 4 professors who made more than $50K per year. And they all had to have PhD’s. I said:  Attached FileAnd went right back to being a scaffold builder and millwright, making more money. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:15:53 PM EDT
[#44]
Nope, not quite there yet.
If I get a promotion than yes. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:17:58 PM EDT
[#45]
I make about 10% over that in retirement. I get by.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:21:06 PM EDT
[#46]
I'm pretty much retired at this point so my income is zero. My wife on the other hand still works, she only made 32k last month, she will probably end up between 250-300k for the year. Only debt is 1,100 month house payment. 100% WFH
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:23:04 PM EDT
[#47]
I'll be lucky if I make $30k this year.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:23:26 PM EDT
[#48]
Just over with 401k match.
That doesn't include my ESOP, which will be another 75-90k towards retirement. |
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:25:07 PM EDT
[#49]
The poor checking in.
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Posted: 10/24/2023 4:25:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm pretty much retired at this point so my income is zero. My wife on the other hand still works, she only made 32k last month, she will probably end up between 250-300k for the year. Only debt is 1,100 month house payment. 100% WFH 
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