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On a somewhat related note, I told my brother that if rates are low enough he should try to qualify for whatever bailout loans they offer and stick it all in the stock market.
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Quoted: Dude, 75% of people in the US are going to get checks. Apparently, only about 30% of arfcom will (or will admit to it ![]() Even in large metro areas the amount of people making above $75k individually (or married $150k) is relatively small. Arfcom is just out of touch, or believes their own bullshit. You can choose which. I’ll bet 60-70% of Arfcom is getting a check. And they’ll cash it. View Quote I'm not disagreeing with any of those points. I'm just pointing out that "outside of metro areas" means a hell of a lot fewer people than folks like to admit around here, and that many of the folks not getting a check are solidly blue collar still. It isn't just the "millionaires" who are saying they aren't getting a cut. Although these threads will be fun to go back to when the typical arfcom dick waving starts and income comes up. ![]() |
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I'm going to post only positive responses, to Trump threads in GD for one month.
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Quoted: I'm not disagreeing with any of those points. I'm just pointing out that "outside of metro areas" means a hell of a lot fewer people than folks like to admit around here, and that many of the folks not getting a check are solidly blue collar still. It isn't just the "millionaires" who are saying they aren't getting a cut. Although these threads will be fun to go back to when the typical arfcom dick waving starts and income comes up. ![]() View Quote If 150K is the cutoff I will need to change my vote, we'll qualify in that case. I really didn't think it would be that high. |
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I am jumping straight into this thread on page 8, so if what I post has already been posted, I apologize.
I have been paying into it, and will pay into that shit, for the rest of my working life. I’ve been working since I was 15, full time since 18. If they are going to give me a check, less than what I have paid in my life to people that don’t want to work, then I will take it. |
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Quoted: You have more in-common with the Bernie bro’s than you care to admit ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I expect videos of burning checks from all the chest thumping super conservative N_Ts. We won't see those videos because most of them are DU trolls and the rest are blowhards. You have more in-common with the Bernie bro’s than you care to admit ![]() ![]() |
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Fuck yes. That Aimpoint isn't going to buy itself
![]() edit: misread OP title. Fuck no I won't refuse it. That Aimpoint isn't going to buy itself ![]() ![]() |
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Quoted: Which means you are paying even less into the pot than you already where while a certain percentage of your countrymen are paying yet even more in than their already disproportionate share. If I pay $20,000 a year in taxes because I am "a big earner" and you pay $10,000 because you're "a low earner" then I am already paying more into the system you are despite both of us being able to use it the same, I am already covering a disproportionate share. Then the Gov gives you back $2000 more meaning you only paid $8000 in that year I am still paying $20,000 in meaning my disproportionate amount INCREASES. "hurrr durr it's my money back" no, you're already not paying your fair share compared to others. The fuck is wrong with so many on this board that don't understand how progressive taxation is already unfair? You guys DO understand this is very much a liberal/leftist scheme right? You're buying into the class warfare shit with this? The whole tax system is fucked. View Quote I get it that it’s unfair but you are totally leaving out the fact the he pays taxes. Of course it’s his money. The fact someone else isn’t getting any doesn’t change that fact. Believe me, I’m a huge fan of a flat tax or the “fair tax” but just because I pay less tax than you do doesn’t mean I didn’t pay it with my money. Everyone who pays taxes pays it with their own money. I’m a 1099 contract worker so I have to pay all my own FICA and SST and Medicare taxes. I’m taxed up the ass and I pay more than a W2 employee of the same income. Don’t talk to me about unfair. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I expect videos of burning checks from all the chest thumping super conservative N_Ts. We won't see those videos because most of them are DU trolls and the rest are blowhards. You have more in-common with the Bernie bro’s than you care to admit ![]() ![]() Not all NTs. Just the subset of NTs that are actually ROLCONs. ![]() |
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I'll defer to Ayn Rand on this:
The same moral principles and considerations apply to the issue of accepting social security, unemployment insurance, or other payments of that kind. It is obvious, in such cases, that a man receives his own money which was taken from him by force, directly and specifically, without his consent, against his own choice. Those who advocated such laws are morally guilty, since they assumed the “right” to force employers and unwilling coworkers. But the victims, who opposed such laws, have a clear right to any refund of their own money—and they would not advance the cause of freedom if they left their money, unclaimed, for the benefit of the welfare-state administration. View Quote |
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I have payed lots of taxes in the past 30 years of my working life and have never ever gotten but a small percentage of it back. Or on some years...paid more and got crap ola back....
I am not an Arfcom Millionaire... So to me it is not "FREE" it is a small refund from all the money they take from me every year.... Ill take it and spend it.... But I don't like that they are doing it... |
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They need to kill this bill.
Its designed to kill the economy. |
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Quoted: Now we get to see the hypocrites that hate welfare, except when they qualify for it. View Quote Trump bucks are a one time thing that apply to everyone and can't be used year after year after year. Besides if it gets the economy jump started instead of economic recession causing me to lose my job then it can't be all bad. Not ideal but certainly not FSA worthy either. |
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Quoted: Bless your little heart, for tilting at windmills. You seam really wound up? Try some yoga or some Xanax. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Not all NTs. Just the subset of NTs that are actually ROLCONs. ![]() Bless your little heart, for tilting at windmills. You seam really wound up? Try some yoga or some Xanax. I was right about TS and BS and I'm right about you and your buddy. I'm as chill as a cucumber, comrade. ![]() |
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I consider it my civic duty to reclaim as many of my tax dollars as possible.
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Quoted: They need to kill this bill. Its designed to kill the economy. View Quote that bill WILL go through, as all of them want their pork, and kick backs and to fund their pet bullshit that gets them votes. ill be surprised if they dont do another 2 trillion dollar bill 3 months from now when shits still all fucked up and millions are pissed off because of this shutdown. then you will get another 250 billion / $1200 check and the politicians will blow another 1750 billion on the same bullshit as the first time. fiscal responsibility is fucking dead in this country, as is worrying about piddly assed shit like " budgets", so, you might as well grab some trump bucks for yourself, and buy preps / ammo with it, because you will probably be needing that shit sooner than you think. not taking trump bucks is fine and dandy, but at best it gives the country another 6 months before it implodes. |
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Quoted: I'll defer to Ayn Rand on this: The same moral principles and considerations apply to the issue of accepting social security, unemployment insurance, or other payments of that kind. It is obvious, in such cases, that a man receives his own money which was taken from him by force, directly and specifically, without his consent, against his own choice. Those who advocated such laws are morally guilty, since they assumed the “right” to force employers and unwilling coworkers. But the victims, who opposed such laws, have a clear right to any refund of their own money—and they would not advance the cause of freedom if they left their money, unclaimed, for the benefit of the welfare-state administration. That's how I feel about it. I expect those who are eligible to accept it. Those who cheer it and start threads bragging about all the garage sale guns they'll buy with it are just showing their true colors. |
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You and I will both be paying it back in higher taxes and higher inflation. Every dollar printed reduces the value of those already in circulation.
This is how slaves are made. |
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WTH are you even talking about, "stand on principles?"
The government takes more than a third of what I earn every year in taxes. If it wants to give me some of that money back as a "stimulus check" then Hell yes I am taking it, because I know - guess what? - they're going to just turn around and take it back again in some form or another. |
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Don't think I'm getting anything so don't have to worry about it.
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I mean with all the millionaires here nobody will be getting a check
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The Borla cat back system I was looking at for my F150 costs $1200. Hmm...
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I'm not ashamed to cash a check. I have paid taxes my entire working life and my kids won't qualify for any sort of assistance for college because I've tried to be responsible for myself and my family. I'll spend mine on things we need and probably put the $500 for the kids their college funds.
ETA: Do I think the checks are a good idea? Fuck no I don't. |
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Quoted: You sound like your little buddy, Madcap72, he was also wound too tight. ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I was right about TS and BS and I'm right about you and your buddy. I'm as chill as a cucumber, comrade. ![]() You sound like your little buddy, Madcap72, he was also wound too tight. ![]() And you sound like all of the other nevertrumpers; ghosting through the malaise from one media driven position to another, dragging your goalposts with you. Like vermin feeding off of fear and discord. Your ilk are pathetic. |
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Quoted: I mean with all the millionaires here nobody will be getting a check View Quote So a couple making $150K/yr are now millionaires? Interesting.... you know that's not really that much money, right? I feel sorry for those that value themselves so little that they'd allow themselves to make less than that - talk about selling oneself short. |
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Isn't it just an advance on your future tax refund? AKA, it's a small, interest free loan?
I won't refuse getting my own money back, the government said I can't work, they can pay me. |
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Quoted: So a couple making $150K/yr are now millionaires? Interesting.... you know that's not really that much money, right? I feel sorry for those that value themselves so little that they'd allow themselves to make less than that - talk about selling oneself short. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I mean with all the millionaires here nobody will be getting a check So a couple making $150K/yr are now millionaires? Interesting.... you know that's not really that much money, right? I feel sorry for those that value themselves so little that they'd allow themselves to make less than that - talk about selling oneself short. It isn’t how much you spend... |
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I know plenty of Republican ran companies that take tax cuts and kick backs. Which is practically a multi-million dollar handout for some of them. So are these Republicans not following their principles, or is it only okay if it's white collar? The rules have me confused.
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I'm going to make a point to spend it in businesses here in town hurt by the shutdown. I'm going to be tipping bigly.
I don't need the money. They do. |
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Pretty sure I'm not going to get a check.
![]() !00% sure I don't want one. |
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Where’s the info so we can confirm? I thought the dems killed it
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