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Link Posted: 7/9/2019 3:49:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Weed
Choice (but I dont support gov sponsored.  Morally, I am against it.  But in the end its a choice in freedom, which I support)
Helping others (but, once again, not gov sponsored)

Your choices are your choices, but I do not want the gov denying or helping.  Like separation of Church / State, should be the same for all grounds.

I personally fall more towards Libertarian than hard core conservative.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 3:50:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/9/2019 3:51:01 PM EDT
[#3]
I could be more accurately described as a constitutionalist libertarian, than a Democrat or Republican.  Either party is like a shit sandwich...it doesn't matter from  which end you take a bite...both are distasteful.  At least Republicans are a wee bit less pro gun control.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 3:52:27 PM EDT
[#4]
I like America.

I believe laws should be enforced or repealed.

I am not racist.

I have literally nothing in common with a Democrat.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 3:53:03 PM EDT
[#5]
get rid of all the morality laws.

its not the governments job to make me a nice person!
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 3:54:14 PM EDT
[#6]
That there are certain segments of our society that are unable (or unwilling) to take care of themselves.

Where I differ from them on this is that I don't believe it is the government's responsibility to do it for them.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 3:55:10 PM EDT
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Also.

I believe that everyone should have access to healthcare and education regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. (where I differ, is that if you want it... you gotta pay for it ).
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Why do you think dems want everyone to have access to healthcare?
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 3:58:53 PM EDT
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Where are the DNC candidates that are for legalizing prostitution?

Why does everyone just assume that Democrats want to make drugs and prostitution legal?
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Or the ones that believe in a "woman's right to choose". They don't. I remember the ones who liked China's one child policy. They like killing babies, and they like getting votes by pandering.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:00:11 PM EDT
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Legalize weed.
Legalize abortion.
Reduce military spending.
*Some* federal regulation of private industries.

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Legalize prostitution.
Legalize gambling.
Progressive income tax.
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Military spending is one of the few things the federal government is for. Most everything else it does is unconstitutional.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:00:58 PM EDT
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Weed should be legal. Homos should be able to get married. Abortion should be legal. Global warming is real and a big deal.
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Global warming is fake shit.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:01:30 PM EDT
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Ending the drug war.  Legal abortion. Gay marriage.
Minding our own fucking business as far as military intervention goes ( I disagree with them on being part of NATO and being europes defense plan though. Bring our military home coe defense of our own continent. Let them fund their own defense )

I disagree with socialized medicine but I accept the fact that republicans will never have the balls or the numbers to unfuck the last several decades of fascist government control in healthcare.   At this point socialized medicine will probably be cheaper than insurance for most people.

I only vote republican to protect my constitutional rights and because they regulate the economy to death at a slower pace than democrats .  once the economy is lost to government control you can never get it back but the bigotry and backwards social policy of republicans can be undone more easily.

Basically republicans are a little bit less shitty long term
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:01:43 PM EDT
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Legalize weed. Don't legalize weed. Don't care.
Gay marriage? Don't care. (The trans BS is a whole other issue)

That's about where it ends.

Don't believe we can control the climate.
Don't believe in baby murder. Fuck the Dims on that one.
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Your definition of both legal weed and gay marriage is entirely different than the democrats

democrats legalize weed means make it mandatory, through teaching, that all elementary school kids try weed

The same goes with LGBQWORST or whatever, it will be forced on all school kids.

democrats mandatory position is entirely different than your Libertarian position
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:04:26 PM EDT
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get rid of all the morality laws.

its not the governments job to make me a nice person!
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That's not a Democrat plank in the platform.

Hate Speech Laws for example
They are taking those stances on "moral" grounds
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:06:24 PM EDT
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weed + gays  
Live free or die.
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So you agree a person should lose their job, be ostracized, fined and perhaps jailed if they make a joke about a gay person?
Because that is the Democrat position.
And that's not "free".
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:07:02 PM EDT
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Military spending is one of the few things the federal government is for. Most everything else it does is unconstitutional.
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I really don't want to scramble this egg because I am in favor of a robust national defense.

But just because military spending is mandated doesn't mean that military spending is at an appropriate level.

If we're going to reduce the national debt in any meaningful way its going to require across the board cuts.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:07:58 PM EDT
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Minding our own fucking business as far as military intervention goes
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Clinton/Obama did a great job minding our own buisness in Libya.

The thing to understand about Dems is that everything they do is about domestic power. Their foreign policy reflects that. They wouldn't do a heavy lift like Iraq, since that could hurt them politically. But they will do Libya, Kosovo, Bosnia, Haiti, etc., all day long since they are low risk politically.

In short, their foreign policy is guided by what favors them politically. Not the national interest. Republicans actually ran principled foreign policy. Dems haven't since at least LBJ. Principled foreign policy can cause trouble, but I prefer it over the policy of maximizing Dem votes and domestic power.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:09:22 PM EDT
[#17]
Assisted suicide. For the Dems.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:10:08 PM EDT
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I really don't want to scramble this egg because I am in favor of a robust national defense.

But just because military spending is mandated doesn't mean that military spending is at an appropriate level.

If we're going to reduce the national debt in any meaningful way its going to require across the board cuts.
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Its the entitlements. Which we won't cut.

I wouldn't say military spending is mandated. The army budget is time limited for a reason.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:11:06 PM EDT
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KingRollo asked this, too...

I've seen and heard my fair share of people on the right who say, "Fuck it, I just throw everything in the trash!"

Never seen or heard that from anyone on the left...
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You think we should recycle more?
Or you think we have poor waste management?

Trying to understand what you think the Republican position is vs. the Democrats.

Those are organizations, with publicly stated platforms.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:12:30 PM EDT
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That's not a Democrat plank in the platform.

Hate Speech Laws for example
They are taking those stances on "moral" grounds
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Dems are pushing a rapidly evolving morality and punishing those who don't measure up. Hence "bake a cake" for gay marriage.

Many here have fallen for Dem propaganda.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:13:16 PM EDT
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Its the entitlements. Which we won't cut.

I wouldn't say military spending is mandated. The army budget is time limited for a reason.
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We could cut every entitlement and our annual budget would still be in a deficit.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:14:50 PM EDT
[#22]
Not a single fucking one.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:15:00 PM EDT
[#23]
I don’t support communist so nothing.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:16:00 PM EDT
[#24]
I think abortion rights should be up to women to decide.

Weed federally legal
Gay people have all the same opportunities as me.
Moving towards a more environmentally friendly country.

That’s about it.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:19:30 PM EDT
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KingRollo asked this, too...

I've seen and heard my fair share of people on the right who say, "Fuck it, I just throw everything in the trash!"

Never seen or heard that from anyone on the left...
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Recycling is virtue signaling. The left virtue signals.

Much of it goes into the trash regardless of what bin you put it in.

To the extent recyling has worked, it was by selling the stuff to China. China is getting tired of it, since the crap isn't worth much to begin with, and they have to sort out the worthless stuff adding to their cost.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:20:37 PM EDT
[#26]
knockers on the street
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:20:58 PM EDT
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Moving towards a more environmentally friendly country.
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What does that even mean?

Personally I think it means pumping out more CO2 for the plants, and watering the lawn with the blood of commies.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:25:12 PM EDT
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What does that even mean?

Personally I think it means pumping out more CO2 for the plants, and watering the lawn with the blood of commies.
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Like
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:26:50 PM EDT
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Legalize weed.

I don’t smoke, but I don’t care who else does.
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Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:31:51 PM EDT
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Military spending is one of the few things the federal government is for. Most everything else it does is unconstitutional.
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Legalize weed.
Legalize abortion.
Reduce military spending.
*Some* federal regulation of private industries.

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Legalize prostitution.
Legalize gambling.
Progressive income tax.
Military spending is one of the few things the federal government is for. Most everything else it does is unconstitutional.
So?  I didn't say gut military spending.  I said reduce it.  We spend more than the next seven nations combined.  It wouldn't kill us to reign in defense spending.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:33:32 PM EDT
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What does that even mean?

Personally I think it means pumping out more CO2 for the plants, and watering the lawn with the blood of commies.
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Maybe I should have just said moving towards more renewable energy? Not country.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:35:30 PM EDT
[#32]
Legalize drugs, what you put into your body isn't the governments business. Legalize gay marriage, who you want to marry isn't the governments business.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 4:47:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Today I learned that many people on this very forum are essentially "democratic" socialists.

ETA: Ever since the very first time I had to sit through the autopsy of a baby, I have been against abortion.  Special circumstances, we can talk about it, but abortion used as a birth control method, nah.

Not for legalizing hard narcotics.  Weed I don't have that big of an issue with, certain situations pending...

I don't align with any of the Democrats, because I'm not a communist.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:03:30 PM EDT
[#34]
I believe former slaves should get reparations.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:04:16 PM EDT
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Today I learned that many people on this very forum are essentially "democratic" socialists.

ETA: Ever since the very first time I had to sit through the autopsy of a baby, I have been against abortion.  Special circumstances, we can talk about it, but abortion used as a birth control method, nah.

Not for legalizing hard narcotics.  Weed I don't have that big of an issue with, certain situations pending...

I don't align with any of the Democrats, because I'm not a communist.
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Being pro-choice doesn't make someone a Democrat any more than being pro-2A makes someone a Republican.  The world is not black and white.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:05:13 PM EDT
[#36]
Not a single one. Zero.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:09:20 PM EDT
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I'm a libertarian, but its gotten to the point that I oppose anything the liberals want.

If they like it it must be bad.
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This is the direction I'm heading. They're pushing me to just despise them.

Free the weed is about the only thing I agree with them on anymore that I can think of.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:10:59 PM EDT
[#38]
In this thread we learn why this forum has gone downhill.....

Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:16:02 PM EDT
[#39]
10 years ago I would have said

Weed
Gay marriage
Not starting too many wars
Better border security
Abortion

Now?  Nothing.  They jumped the shark.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:17:47 PM EDT
[#40]
Abortion
Gay marriage
abortion
Legalizing weed
abortion
prison reform
abortion
restoring voting rights to anyone that isn't in prison (you're either a free man with full rights or not, labeling them in between keeps people from ever returning fully to society)
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:19:18 PM EDT
[#41]
None.  Not a communist.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:19:50 PM EDT
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Pot and abortions.  I'm not really big into either one, but meh, whatever makes you happy.  Guess I'm in the "do what you want, but I don't need to hear about it" camp.

There are bigger things to worry about these days.  Too many other hills to die on.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:20:31 PM EDT
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I guess I'm on board with any of the individual liberty stuff (gay marriage, ending WoD, stop legislating morality), but that's really it. Everything they stand for other than that is just statism.
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They don't really believe those things made clear now that they are in control of society and media, they believe you have the right to believe as they do, otherwise, it's moot because you are un-person of some kind.  Racist, homophobe, xenophobe, deplorable, white nationalist, right wing extremist.  A label is available for every heresy.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:21:42 PM EDT
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Low taxes on the “middle class.”  Of course they go full retardant and try to tax the hell out of success
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Jesus.... wow.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:22:45 PM EDT
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Could you imagine is Trump decriminalized weed? The left's heads would explode
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Naw, plenty of them would circle back around and begin attacking him for it.  They can't help but to do so at this point.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:22:52 PM EDT
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Democrat starts with a D, that's about it.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:23:57 PM EDT
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Naw, plenty of them would circle back around and begin attacking him for it.  They can't help but to do so at this point.
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Yeah, their heads would explode. Making them more and more hated by all.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:24:48 PM EDT
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Same. I don't care what other people do. Live and let live and all that.
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Im all for live and let live until actions impinge upon the next American's ability to do the same (minor annoyances excepted).

The morality warriors in the GOP are just as bad as the sjws in the left.  They both want to force everyone to live their way, the only difference is the way they want to make us live.
Link Posted: 7/9/2019 5:24:59 PM EDT
[#49]
None.
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What if it's legal everywhere? Who's going to get 'dragged' ?
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This. If it was legal everywhere, people wouldn't be migrating to get it.

Just like economic growth.  If the left would stop trying to kill capitalism, people would stop fleeing those places due to taxes, regulations, and busybodies.
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