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Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:00:32 PM EST
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Two initial observations:

1. That has to be weird having two cockpits where you cannot get from one to the other.

2. I don't see how that thing is not going to break apart at the center? No way the aerodynamic forces are not going to sever that thing.
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Page two ownage 


Bad news / good news;


Bad news- it breaks apart in the connecting section (tortional stresses or whatever).

Good news- Rosie O'donnell payload will be what breaks it 

Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:00:39 PM EST
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Isn't just bolting two planes together to make the biggest plane possible just cheating?


Fasten two tanks together and have the world biggest tank!!
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:03:15 PM EST
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It's the push-me-pull-you of the air.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:07:18 PM EST
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whatever it takes to get rosie out of here.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:08:51 PM EST
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It's designed and built by Scaled Composites - aka Burt Rutan.  I'd put my ass in ANY airplane he's designed and not worry about it.  This is just big brother to Boomerang and White Knight 2.
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This.  Sign me up.  I've met Rutan, he's the John Moses Browning of aviation.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:11:01 PM EST
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Stick a dozen GAU 8's under that central wing section, instant CAS.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:11:36 PM EST
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You doubters make me ill.

You think Paul Allen doesn't know how to properly simulate an aircraft design? How to test it for structural integrity under aerodynamic forces?

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Lol

Everything is perfect on a hard drive.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:14:53 PM EST
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Sweet!
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:15:49 PM EST
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Damn we got a whole lot of aeronautical engineers on this forum. I never knew.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:17:01 PM EST
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I would have had the elevators tie together for more structural integrity, other than that it looks cool and I can't wait to see one fly or crash
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:17:10 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:17:16 PM EST
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Reminds me of that 3 headed monster Godzilla fought a few times.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:17:22 PM EST
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Maybe after releasing its payload, the two halves do separate for individual return and landing!  


Yeah, I'm not seeing why it doesn't have a spar between the two tails.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:17:41 PM EST
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I hope SpaceX doesn't put them out of business before this thing can fly.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:20:28 PM EST
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It looks strange, but I figure the aerospace engineers have thought out the structural integrity of the design... because most of us goobers are thinking, "It's gonna suck when the middle wing breaks apart."
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:21:53 PM EST
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Pretty much what I was just thinking.  The center of that wing better be a whole lot stronger than it looks...or that thing is going to fall apart if it ever gets rough up there.
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that does not look structurally sound...
Pretty much what I was just thinking.  The center of that wing better be a whole lot stronger than it looks...or that thing is going to fall apart if it ever gets rough up there.
Yup.

Can you imagine the stress the independent tails will induce alone??  At least tie the tails together like the P38 did.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:26:12 PM EST
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You doubters make me ill.

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Did he calculate in the Abbott & Costello "Who's on First" twin cockpits?

1> "Turn Left"
2> "Right"
1> "No, left"
2> "Got it No Left....Turning Right"
1> " No , Turn LEFT"
2> "Roger , No Turn Left.....Turning Right"

<CRACK>

"What was that?"
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:29:56 PM EST
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That plane has fantastic thigh gap.

Also, how many 2,000 pound bombs could it carry?
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:29:58 PM EST
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Shut up and take my money!  
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:29:59 PM EST
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1) everyone is acting like the center wing section is providing no lift.

2) Twin Mustang
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:31:22 PM EST
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Damn we got a whole lot of aeronautical engineers on this forum. I never knew.
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2017 and you can't tell if an aircraft is structurally and aerodynamically sound just by looking at it?

Pfft.

n00b

Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:35:07 PM EST
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I actually AM an aerospace engineer and don't think that looks structurally sound. But, for what it's worth, over 15 years ago, I did do a very detailed analysis of a configuration that used two C-5 fuselages with a slab between them to hold the rocket (and the tails were joined, not two independent pieces). We were actually going to use the left and right wings from the C-5, just a new straight segment between the two fuselages. Spent 10 days with almost no sleep working that with a bunch of other people because somebody wanted it in a hurry to make a multi-billion dollar decision.

Multi-fuselage aircraft are certainly not new. Most of the ones I've seen that were either built or just concepts looked a lot less ugly than that thing.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:37:30 PM EST
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Looks like a runway only type aircraft. How do you get from the parking area to the runway? Aren't typical taxiways 75 feet wide? That is the min taxiway width for the C-5.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:38:03 PM EST
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That plane has fantastic thigh gap.

Also, how many 2,000 pound bombs could it carry?
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Article said with 250k fuel it can still carry a 550k payload. So... 275 ish?

Fuckin America!


Cool plane BTW. I bet if it doesn't get commercial use as it is intended it will find another home as a heavy lifter of weird giant shit.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:41:36 PM EST
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Maybe after releasing its payload, the two halves do separate for individual return and landing!  

Yeah, I'm not seeing why it doesn't have a spar between the two tails.
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The flame from the rocket in the middle might be tough on that spar. 
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:52:50 PM EST
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I would have had the elevators tie together for more structural integrity, other than that it looks cool and I can't wait to see one fly or crash
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Betting they designed it split for longer payloads. Keep the empanage clear...
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 8:57:13 PM EST
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That's the stupidest thing I've seen today
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Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:00:50 PM EST
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that's an odd bird.

If they whole goal was to launch a rocket from the plane, why not strap it to the top, carrying it all the way up there, and then go inverted and drop the rocket to take off?
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lol
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:01:24 PM EST
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Looks like something north Korea would make out of plastic, carboard and paper to show off their super advanced engineering.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:11:15 PM EST
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lol
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that's an odd bird.

If they whole goal was to launch a rocket from the plane, why not strap it to the top, carrying it all the way up there, and then go inverted and drop the rocket to take off?
lol
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:11:46 PM EST
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Pretty much what I was just thinking.  The center of that wing better be a whole lot stronger than it looks...or that thing is going to fall apart if it ever gets rough up there.
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They should have went with an OV-10 style tail.

I'm sure it's all fly by wire though, as long as the computer doesn't shit itself it should be all good.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:12:43 PM EST
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It's designed and built by Scaled Composites - aka Burt Rutan.  I'd put my ass in ANY airplane he's designed and not worry about it.  This is just big brother to Boomerang and White Knight 2.
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Exactly this.
Scaled composites and Burt. I would trust to the ends of the world.
Oh, wait a min, they have already been there.....
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:13:15 PM EST
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Nice 

We're seeing a slow-paced version of the early days of aviation. Companies trying to make it into space for fun and profit... expect a lot of failures but a revolution in the end. 
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Yep. I want to be part of it soooo bad.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:14:33 PM EST
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Spruce Goose 2.0
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LOL Winner!
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:18:38 PM EST
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Yep. I want to be part of it soooo bad.
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Nice 

We're seeing a slow-paced version of the early days of aviation. Companies trying to make it into space for fun and profit... expect a lot of failures but a revolution in the end. 
Yep. I want to be part of it soooo bad.
I've sent my CV to Space-X a couple of times. Hey, I can dream
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:23:57 PM EST
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The flame from the rocket in the middle might be tough on that spar. 
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I would assume the rocket would detach from the plane before firing, unless they want hundreds of tons of thrust yanking violently on the center wing.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:26:37 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:27:06 PM EST
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Think of the Vulcan machine gun that could fit in the middle
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Mother of God
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:27:45 PM EST
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Ya'll just jealous you didn't think of this first 
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:28:10 PM EST
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I've sent my CV to Space-X a couple of times. Hey, I can dream
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Just two semesters left of engineering school. I don't care if I wind up designing space toilets or something, I just want to be involved.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:31:51 PM EST
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Now Russian air show pilots will be able to laugh at us when it crashes.

Just kidding. But, I wonder if heavy cross-winds will affect the landing.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:32:10 PM EST
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This.  Sign me up.  I've met Rutan, he's the John Moses Browning of aviation.
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It's designed and built by Scaled Composites - aka Burt Rutan.  I'd put my ass in ANY airplane he's designed and not worry about it.  This is just big brother to Boomerang and White Knight 2.
This.  Sign me up.  I've met Rutan, he's the John Moses Browning of aviation.
This, but Rutan popped smoke a number of years ago, doubt he had much to do with the design.

Still, some damn smart people at SC, I am sure it will be fine. 
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:37:02 PM EST
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I actually AM an aerospace engineer and don't think that looks structurally sound. But, for what it's worth, over 15 years ago, I did do a very detailed analysis of a configuration that used two C-5 fuselages with a slab between them to hold the rocket (and the tails were joined, not two independent pieces). We were actually going to use the left and right wings from the C-5, just a new straight segment between the two fuselages. Spent 10 days with almost no sleep working that with a bunch of other people because somebody wanted it in a hurry to make a multi-billion dollar decision.

Multi-fuselage aircraft are certainly not new. Most of the ones I've seen that were either built or just concepts looked a lot less ugly than that thing.
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I'm actually NOT an aerospace engineer, but I have taken enough college math and physics to know that without a stabilized tail like the P-38 Lightening


......that brace between the two fuselages is going to have to be made out of solid titanium infused unobtanium to withstand the X-Y-Z axis stresses of flight, wind gust, weather, weight of 3 rockets and their aerodynamics, computer error, pilot error, etc.

If this thing gets off the ground at all it will have a shorter flight hr log than than Howard Hughs' Spruce Goose.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:40:47 PM EST
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Why do I feel like steering that thing is going to be like Siamese twins fighting over a blowjob?
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:45:22 PM EST
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I've talked to them. 60 hr minimum work week for about 1/2 what you would make working anywhere else. "Working at Space X" is a large part of their compensation package. Their burn out rate for employees is staggering.

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Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:45:33 PM EST
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Two initial observations:

1. That has to be weird having two cockpits where you cannot get from one to the other.

2. I don't see how that thing is not going to break apart at the center? No way the aerodynamic forces are not going to sever that thing.
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If Rutan's company (Scaled Composites) built it, it will do what is requested of it. Looks like an upscaled version of Rutan's "White Knight". It was a launch platform for a manned, single rocket they used for the X-prize competion.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:45:56 PM EST
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Why do I feel like steering that thing is going to be like Siamese twins fighting over a blowjob?
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Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:46:58 PM EST
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looks like 2 queer planes holding hands as they fly.....
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Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:48:59 PM EST
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Fugly.  Must be a liberal's airplane.
Link Posted: 5/31/2017 9:50:35 PM EST
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This.  Sign me up.  I've met Rutan, he's the John Moses Browning of aviation.
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It's designed and built by Scaled Composites - aka Burt Rutan.  I'd put my ass in ANY airplane he's designed and not worry about it.  This is just big brother to Boomerang and White Knight 2.
This.  Sign me up.  I've met Rutan, he's the John Moses Browning of aviation.
Yep.  My sentiments exactly.
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