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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:31:59 AM EST
[#1]
Depends on the industry. I worked for an IT company and a lot of the nerd programmers were the dyed hair gauge earring type but did good work. My job before that I worked with P&G execs and our company had strict work attire to please them. Historically heavy ink was an indicator of bad life decision making in general most of the people I knew that had sleeves were people that never got out of their teenage Hot Topic phase that never were destined for white collar work anyway. Today heavy tatts are so common, the explosion of young women with them like OP, it is less of an indicator. I still think gauges and other aggressive piercings and wild hair color are indicative of bad life decision making. It's a mental Fuck You to societal norms that if you are a run of the mill business, you arent trying to relay to customers who arent on the same wavelength as zee/x'ers.....
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:32:03 AM EST
[#2]
Op you just posted a picture (including face) off a coworkers social media (clearly without her permission) on to a public forum. How the hell did you think that was a good idea?
As a completely non-tattooed old guy the first thing I would do is fire your ass because you are a liability nightmare and clearly out of touch with the amount of liability you just pulled on to any company that was dumb enough to not can you. So welcome to the 21st century pal. While the receptionist may not fit your moral standards this behavior of yours will absolutely give that same receptionist the ability to sue the living hell out of the company. That generation wins real monetary judgements off companies these days (especially with the granola packed courts in every state) for stuff just like this. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:32:56 AM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: People in this thread, on both sides, sure as shit don't give a fuck.  Easy to tell who works in the corporate world and who works at the vape shop. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:33:35 AM EST
[#4]
If I were the owner or hiring manager it would simply come down to how I think my customers would react to her. As long as they're open to it and she is the best applicant there is no problem. If she'd cost me customers then it's a no-go.
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:34:29 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your customers are there for your brokerage services. Not your receptionist. As long as she can do her job, who cares? So, no need for a dress code either? Displaying professionalism through appearance is necessary. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:36:27 AM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I spent 14 years in the .mil, and I'm pretty inked up - full sleeve, calf, chest and back. If I show up to the interview and then every subsequent day of work in a long sleeve button down shirt, you'd never know I had any tattoos. Probably the only time you'd see them would be when I showed up to the company BBQ in shorts and a t-shirt. Obvious mil tats (Globe & Anchor, Airborne Ranger, etc.) have been around so long they I think they don't really even play into this discussion when they are generally recognizable as mil tats. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:38:29 AM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell yes why not You boomer fucks have to get over the tattoo shit already Its fucking embarrassing at this point Lol. Not a boomer. Tattoos are for faggots |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:38:30 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d absolutely hire her… Probably try and have sex with her, too. bonus if she does anal...amirite ?  |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:38:55 AM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't quite see it that way, and I can only assume that OP knows what he's doing. He thinks she won't mind, he knows her better than we do. Besides if she does find it all she'll see is that people have different and strong opinions on tattoos. This will be remarkable to her only if she's an idiot Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Take a picture of a female coworker and post it in this thread, then show her this thread. See what her reaction is. What OP did is immature, unprofessional, and disrespectful to the secretary. I don't quite see it that way, and I can only assume that OP knows what he's doing. He thinks she won't mind, he knows her better than we do. Besides if she does find it all she'll see is that people have different and strong opinions on tattoos. This will be remarkable to her only if she's an idiot I’m gonna venture a guess that you don’t work for a company with an HR department. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:39:05 AM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your customers are there for your brokerage services. Not your receptionist. As long as she can do her job, who cares? ^ |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:39:14 AM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope she doesn’t see this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’d absolutely hire her… Probably try and have sex with her, too. I hope she doesn’t see this thread. well better hope she doesn't know who started it... |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:39:16 AM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you live in Utah, screen name is perfect for your holier than thou shit and yet you troll some chick and post a picture of her without her permission and "she is the bad person'......you are F'd up and a hypocrite Did you even read my posts? She’s amazing at her job. Nobody at work, even the ownership who is old school cares she has tattoos. They have tried everything to get her to stay. My point is that if someone passed on hiring her they lost out on an amazing employee. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:39:41 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Because it's unprofessional. And for those of you who disagree; I don't give a fuck what you think. Don't care what you think either. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:41:21 AM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We are in a conservative state and owned by very old school conservative people and they don’t have a problem with It. In fact she’s taking a new job and they are begging her to stay. She smiles and talks to everyone who comes in our office and knows their names. I think you answered your own question. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:43:16 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What if she was a combat Vet, would you change your stance? Your shit is all retarded sir, move the fuck on. I have a daughter that would agree with you.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:44:32 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Because it's unprofessional. And for those of you who disagree; I don't give a fuck what you think. ^^^^^^^ Reality Bites kiddies |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:44:45 AM EST
[#17]
No, because those are some stupid tattoos.
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:45:17 AM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. I don't want clients thinking we hire dopers and felons So my daughters are dopers and or felons? coc you. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:45:18 AM EST
[#19]
I worked at Walmart 30 years ago.
Policy then was no tattoos and gum chewing where customers could see it. But then, 30 years before that, k-12 schools required male teachers wear a suit and tie, female teachers wore dresses, and NOBODY could be showing pregnancy (teacher or student). At this rate, 30 years from now will be interesting. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:46:05 AM EST
[#20]
Tattoos? That issue is 2nd to those two giant caterpillars taking-up residence on her forehead lol.
But probably tattoos too. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:46:49 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope she doesn’t see this thread. Dude you opened pandora's box. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:47:09 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's because it's not a photo.  That's Jack from Mass Effect 2. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: WTF am I looking at here? Something seems off about this photo. That's because it's not a photo. That's Jack from Mass Effect 2.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:47:13 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Because it's unprofessional. And for those of you who disagree; I don't give a fuck what you think. Says a Boomer who's probably morbidly obese with body odor and unkempt body hair who farts in public and flicks boogers on the carpet.  
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:47:14 AM EST
[#24]
I’d much rather see that than see an overweight, older woman, wearing floral patterns with chains on her glasses. 100 times more “welcoming” IMO.
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:50:11 AM EST
[#25]
This thread has taught me why the members of this site are becoming less and less relevant to society by the minute.
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:50:32 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Obvious mil tats (Globe & Anchor, Airborne Ranger, etc.) have been around so long they I think they don't really even play into this discussion when they are generally recognizable as mil tats. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I spent 14 years in the .mil, and I'm pretty inked up - full sleeve, calf, chest and back. If I show up to the interview and then every subsequent day of work in a long sleeve button down shirt, you'd never know I had any tattoos. Probably the only time you'd see them would be when I showed up to the company BBQ in shorts and a t-shirt. Obvious mil tats (Globe & Anchor, Airborne Ranger, etc.) have been around so long they I think they don't really even play into this discussion when they are generally recognizable as mil tats. With the exception of the the Crossed Rifles on my ribcage, Cpt Parker statue on my right forearm and the Iraq silhouette on my calf, the rest are hibiscus flowers and fishies. First duty station was ROK, plus time spent around Japan and the Philippines. That experience kinda influenced the majority of my tats. But, like I said, long sleeve shirt. If my hypothetical GD boss never sees them, then there's nothing to clutch pearls over. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:50:32 AM EST
[#27]
Tattoos are indeed stupid, yet social mores have definitely changed, and it’s a seller’s market for labor these days. If she’s good at her job, I’m damn sure going to leave her alone and let her do it.
I work in the private security industry, and all but a scant few of our clients have ditched their “no visible tattoos” policy. Still have a company policy on facial jewelry though, purely as a personal safety issue. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:55:36 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Not a boomer. Tattoos are for faggots Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hell yes why not You boomer fucks have to get over the tattoo shit already Its fucking embarrassing at this point Lol. Not a boomer. Tattoos are for faggots 
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:56:58 AM EST
[#29]
Yes,
id invite her in my office to show me more also 
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Posted: 8/15/2021 10:58:15 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Posting pictures of your coworkers on the internet isn't exactly professional. Agreed. I would not hire a hard, creepy looking gal like that as a receptionist, but posting the woman's personal media photos like that is creepy and wrong. What she does in her personal life is off limits. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:00:08 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell yes why not You boomer fucks have to get over the tattoo shit already Its fucking embarrassing at this point I'm a zoomer and I think tattoos are generally unprofessional. I also think they look especially bad on women. It's not about being a boomer, it's about noticing patterns. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:03:06 AM EST
[#32]
Many years ago I worked for a very smart guy who went to Dartmouth and Dartmouth business school.
His claim that standard business practice was to put the best looking and most presentable as the first seen receptionist and the smart problem solver as her backup in the rear office. His comment when questioned was , Oh yes, somewhat unfair but first impressions are the key , looks matter . He ran his small office mostly dealing with folks over the phone in his tennis shorts and flip-flops but still had a top tier suit and spit shined shoes sitting in his office closet to put on the dog at a moments notice if required . This was 40 years ago but I believe this to be mostly true today |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:04:12 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would not hire her. I would not want our customers getting sick to their stomachs and realize what shitty life choices my business made. Would you hire a fat woman for a receptionist? |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:04:48 AM EST
[#34]
Sheesh! I open this thread a few hours ago, walk away for breakfast, and BAM! 8 pages.
Not reading through to see if it's been addressed, but... EVERYONE in the company needs their customers to want to give them money. If those customers are comfortable with tats, then cool for all involved. But if customers are put off by that in-your-face tattoo style, then EVERYONE in the company loses. IMO, she would be selfish to demand that she kept them exposed if that were the case. Depends upon the customer base whether or not those kinds of tats need covering. Simple as that. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:09:07 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you even read my posts? She’s amazing at her job. Nobody at work, even the ownership who is old school cares she has tattoos. They have tried everything to get her to stay. My point is that if someone passed on hiring her they lost out on an amazing employee. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you live in Utah, screen name is perfect for your holier than thou shit and yet you troll some chick and post a picture of her without her permission and "she is the bad person'......you are F'd up and a hypocrite Did you even read my posts? She’s amazing at her job. Nobody at work, even the ownership who is old school cares she has tattoos. They have tried everything to get her to stay. My point is that if someone passed on hiring her they lost out on an amazing employee. Thankfully this damsel in distress has a knight in shining armor to let everyone know how virtuous she is. Does she know about and approve of this thread? If not it’s very creepy. Edit: it’s creepy either way |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:10:13 AM EST
[#36]
One of the rules of business is never take a counter offer when leaving. You already signaled you are heading out the door. You will never be trusted there again so it is best to just get up and go.
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:11:32 AM EST
[#37]
Seems many of you missed me point. She’s an amazing employee and the company would have missed out on her had they not hired her because of the tattoos.
They took a chance in her due to the fact she had zero office background. She worked at a high end salon in CA. she wanted to try something new. Her dad is a broker at the office and got her hired. Also in the pic HER LEFT arm is the one that has the tats. That other arm with the full sleeve is here friends. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:18:13 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Also in the pic HER LEFT arm is the one that has the tats. That other arm with the full sleeve is here friends. I think they were saying that both girls have left arm tats, so that's not a good enough description of which one is her. I'm more offended by black+white photography. That's 1960s buy-the-cheap-film stuff to me. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:20:44 AM EST
[#39]
Couldn't care less. If she does a good job, then she does a good job.
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:21:08 AM EST
[#40]
I don't think looking professional matters anymore. We have sunk to ever increasing social lows.
I work in the railroad field and am over 50. I've applied for about 10 different management positions on five different railroads over the last 5 years. I have an extensive 25 year record of accomplishment in the field. I've been everything from a front line supervisor to the VP-Operations right hand man for a national scale company. I have short hair, no tats, wear khakis and a button up shirt. This was the expected dress for a railroad official when I came up. The expectation was that you would look not only presentable, but respectable and somewhat formal. I can't even get an interview. So I say "self let's get out there and see who is getting hired in these positions today." Answer: 20 and 30 somethings with goatees, full sleeve tats, neck tats, jeans, and a smart mouth. I think I'm getting "ok boomer"ed in my field. Thank God I have a really good job already. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:21:31 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems many of you missed me point. She’s an amazing employee and the company would have missed out on her had they not hired her because of the tattoos. They took a chance in her due to the fact she had zero office background. She worked at a high end salon in CA. she wanted to try something new. Her dad is a broker at the office and got her hired. Also in the pic HER LEFT arm is the one that has the tats. That other arm with the full sleeve is here friends. Lol didn't even realize the more tatted up arm is her friends. I know this is a pretty conservative site but the sheer number of folks saying it's a turnoff for them should give anyone pause. You also have to consider with a brokerage the folks who are actually coming in for a face to face are probably older and less accepting of this stuff. The people who are more ok with tats are probably like wtf you want me to waste my time to come to an office? Considering this person came to the job with 0 experience and is leaving despite all the training offer of promotion and pay raise sort of speaks to why i wouldn't be interested in hiring the type of person with visible tattoos especially for front office. Ymmv |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:22:31 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell yes why not You boomer fucks have to get over the tattoo shit already Its fucking embarrassing at this point This is the kind of guy that the railroads put into management now............lol. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:24:14 AM EST
[#43]
Problem is…. Accept this and next thing you know it’s huge face tattoos, etc trying to slide into the same position.
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:25:31 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct, especially as the front person at the company building. Otherwise the choice of tattoo placement is a good self-inflicted indicator. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:25:31 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you really think its appropriate to post her picture on this site without her permission, in order to get an opinion about her tattoos? Seriously, if I was the owner of a company... and I saw that one of my workers grabbed a photo of a coworker off their social media, and then posted it on another social media... and ask people's opinions about her looks... I'd not be happy about that at all. I dunno, maybe I'm weird but... I think its kind of odd, and a creepy thing to do and probably puts your company into a heap of liability. ETA: I hate tats. But this thread feels "Wrong" to me. If it's on her public social media, then yeah |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:29:09 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP is creepy as fuck.  Yep. This website has the highest concentration of nerds on the entire internets. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:30:34 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think looking professional matters anymore. We have sunk to ever increasing social lows. I work in the railroad field and am over 50. I've applied for about 10 different management positions on five different railroads over the last 5 years. I have an extensive 25 year record of accomplishment in the field. I've been everything from a front line supervisor to the VP-Operations right hand man for a national scale company. I have short hair, no tats, wear khakis and a button up shirt. This was the expected dress for a railroad official when I came up. The expectation was that you would look not only presentable, but respectable and somewhat formal. I can't even get an interview. So I say "self let's get out there and see who is getting hired in these positions today." Answer: 20 and 30 somethings with goatees, full sleeve tats, neck tats, jeans, and a smart mouth. I think I'm getting "ok boomer"ed in my field. Thank God I have a really good job already. If this thread is going to be used as an example, I wouldn’t want an older person in charge of hiring. They seem to be more concerned with appearance than ability. Personally I’d rather have an A player with tattoos than a C player who’s clean cut. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:30:38 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, cover up that shit. It is unprofessional to display tattoos in a professional setting - yea, unless you're in a certain industry. |
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:30:42 AM EST
[#49]
I can’t answer the question owing to her arm obscuring her boobs.
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Posted: 8/15/2021 11:31:17 AM EST
[#50]
tats are becoming the norm people are getting used to it and before long all the future clients will be all inked up anyway,..... i'm a boomer inkys dont bother me, except the ones that tat their face then I'm all WTF
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