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Posted: 3/20/2009 3:14:41 PM EDT

A street I had to do a quote on today. Mind you, there were maybe three occupied houses. None of which I photographed. I left out the locals too, as I'm sure they don't want to be interweb famous. I once heard that every board up house on a street depreciates the others by about $5,000. So, imagine how much the sole survivors properties are worth.

Another side note. This street is off of the old "Millionaires Row", in Cleveland-East Cleveland. Where John D. Rockefeller and other notables lived. Way back in the day.

What's unfathomable to me is that these are all on the same street.

And people ask why I carry a gun.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:16:05 PM EDT

[#1]

Looks like some nice places in their prime.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:17:07 PM EDT

[#2]

wow

makes me feel better about the small city i live in. at least they tear down the boarded up buildings here.

pretty depressing.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:17:15 PM EDT

[#3]

Old homes don't make it ghetto. Boarded up windows don't make it ghetto.

The trolls that live there make it ghetto.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:17:38 PM EDT

[#4]

I'd love to see pics from "back in the day" when these homes were new. Some have some really cool architecture.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:19:38 PM EDT

[#5]

Imagine what you'd find if you went inside them.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:20:02 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Old homes don't make it ghetto. Boarded up windows don't make it ghetto.

The trolls that live there make it ghetto.

I can agree with that, I guess. These homes didn't beat the shit out of themselves.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:21:05 PM EDT

[#7]

Well, if you grew up in the green one, and some old codger asked you 'Were you born in a barn or somethin?' when you left the door open....

You could say 'YES!!!!!'

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:21:14 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:

Looks like some nice places in their prime.

East Cleveland was once a very wealthy neighborhood.

Now it's just a dump.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:22:42 PM EDT

[#9]

when I see wasted architecture and real estate like that, I die a little bit inside.

I would kill for that red brick building.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:23:08 PM EDT

[#10]

East Cleveland eh? I bet you've heard of our company.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:23:27 PM EDT

[#11]

What a shame, those places were great.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:24:35 PM EDT

[#12]

My wife and I went to Columbus, OH for a wedding in Oct 2008, saw some of the same things.

Some neighborhoods that were probably great 50 years ago, just run down like that.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:25:20 PM EDT

[#13]

Very sad to see houses like that go to waste. A shame this is what our country is becoming.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:26:15 PM EDT

[#14]

are these homes selling for a dollar? i have to imagine the salvage value to be pretty high, trim, woodwork, hardware etc

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:28:11 PM EDT

[#15]

That looks just like Richmond, except your pictures are lacking bullet holes in the buildings, bums with various signage, and large crowds of people just sitting around at 2 in the afternoon.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:28:13 PM EDT

[#16]

lets all move there and create an arfcom land.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:29:03 PM EDT

[#17]

All the copper is likely stripped out, and the animals that do it wreck everything in the process.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:29:12 PM EDT

[#18]

Go to Yahoo Real Estate.

Type in Detroit - search for houses between $0 and $1000.

See what you get.

Then do Cleveland too...

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:29:33 PM EDT

[#19]

The sad part is, those could be some absolutely beautiful houses with a little TLC... Or a lot.

Its a shame to see them die like that.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:34:28 PM EDT

[#20]

Coming soon to an HGTV program about "flipping" real estate.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:37:18 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Go to Yahoo Real Estate.

Type in Detroit - search for houses between $0 and $1000.

See what you get.

Then do Cleveland too...

Yeah, I read a story about that, people buying up blocks of homes for a few $$$ each.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:38:25 PM EDT

[#22]

I'm really curious what led to the demographic shift that caused the decay of that neighborhood.

Something caused the community's populace to transition from people who could afford them and cared to maintain them to people who... didn't.

Regional economics, social programs that arbitrarily placed people in the area who didn't care or couldn't afford upkeep, a nearby ghetto that expanded or shifted, crime - something caused a very significant socioeconomic and cultural change.

Neighborhoods don't just go to sleep gentrified one night and then the sun rises on a burned-out slum the next day.

Anybody know the area that can add some insight?

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:49:23 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
I'm really curious what led to the demographic shift that caused the decay of that neighborhood.

Something caused the community's populace to transition from people who could afford them and cared to maintain them to people who... didn't.

Regional economics, social programs that arbitrarily placed people in the area who didn't care or couldn't afford upkeep, a nearby ghetto that expanded or shifted, crime - something caused a very significant socioeconomic and cultural change.

Neighborhoods don't just go to sleep gentrified one night and then the sun rises on a burned-out slum the next day.

Anybody know the area that can add some insight?

I think in this case, the money left during the Depression and just never returned. Owner occupied properties gave way to rentals, and tenants who couldn't care less. Add drugs and unemployment...throw in a little gang activity...it really is sad.

Whole neighborhoods in the hearts of major American cities are looking like this. With no help from a Katrina like event either.

Pretty soon, big cities will be ghost towns.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:50:17 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

I'm really curious what led to the demographic shift that caused the decay of that neighborhood.

Something caused the community's populace to transition from people who could afford them and cared to maintain them to people who... didn't.

Regional economics, social programs that arbitrarily placed people in the area who didn't care or couldn't afford upkeep, a nearby ghetto that expanded or shifted, crime - something caused a very significant socioeconomic and cultural change.

Neighborhoods don't just go to sleep gentrified one night and then the sun rises on a burned-out slum the next day.

Anybody know the area that can add some insight?

Manufacturing jobs moving offshore or disappearing.

OH is a blue collar state, or was 50 years ago.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:57:16 PM EDT

[#25]

It really is sad considering what those homes looked like in their prime.

Posted: 3/20/2009 3:59:33 PM EDT

[#26]

The piru seem to be busy with upkeep in that area.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:04:52 PM EDT

[#27]

Almost as purdy as East St. Louis, IMO.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:08:39 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

I'm really curious what led to the demographic shift that caused the decay of that neighborhood.

The move to the suburbs starting in the 1930s. Wide-open spaces and cheap land was plentiful.

By the 1950s, anybody who could afford to leave the city, started leaving en masse. When manufacturing left that area in the 1970s, all that was left was poor people.

My mother grew up in East Cleveland and left for the suburbs when she married my father in the late 1940s.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:08:55 PM EDT

[#29]

Wow, that looks like post Katrina New Orleans (minus the water line).

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:11:39 PM EDT

[#30]

I guess every city has a section like that.

What a shame

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:12:31 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
East Cleveland eh? I bet you've heard of our company.

ECPD?

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:14:08 PM EDT

[#32]

I don't think the United States knows what "ghetto" is. Come to the developing world and you'll see.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:15:21 PM EDT

[#33]

Looks like they got more than their fair share of hope and change.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:16:02 PM EDT

[#34]

I would be interested in buying a couple of them - if you could provide free shipping... to Texas.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:16:35 PM EDT

[#35]

Godspeed ghetto man....

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:16:48 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:
A street I had to do a quote on today. Mind you, there were maybe three occupied houses. None of which I photographed. I left out the locals too, as I'm sure they don't want to be interweb famous. I once heard that every board up house on a street depreciates the others by about $5,000. So, imagine how much the sole survivors properties are worth.

Another side note. This street is off of the old "Millionaires Row", in Cleveland-East Cleveland. Where John D. Rockefeller and other notables lived. Way back in the day.

What's unfathomable to me is that these are all on the same street.

And people ask why I carry a gun.

Let me guess, blacks populate/populated most of that area? I tell you what, they destroy any area they reside in. It sickens me and it worries me how every city they live in turns to complete shit.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:17:57 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
when I see wasted architecture and real estate like that, I die a little bit inside.

I would kill for that red brick building.

Go buy it then... I am sure you would get the opportunity... after 4-5 they may even stop bothering you..

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:18:14 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:
The piru seem to be busy with upkeep in that area.

Piru Lives!

WTH is a piru?

ETA: The Pirus are a Los Angeles, California area street gang based out of Compton. Originally a set or faction of the Crips street gang,[1][2] the Pirus broke off during the 1970s and are considered to be the original founders of there allies the Bloods street gang

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:20:40 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
A street I had to do a quote on today. Mind you, there were maybe three occupied houses. None of which I photographed. I left out the locals too, as I'm sure they don't want to be interweb famous. I once heard that every board up house on a street depreciates the others by about $5,000. So, imagine how much the sole survivors properties are worth.

Another side note. This street is off of the old "Millionaires Row", in Cleveland-East Cleveland. Where John D. Rockefeller and other notables lived. Way back in the day.

What's unfathomable to me is that these are all on the same street.

And people ask why I carry a gun.

Let me guess, blacks populate/populated most of that area? I tell you what, they destroy any area they reside in. It sickens me and it worries me how every city they live in turns to complete shit.

Kinda true

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:21:12 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm really curious what led to the demographic shift that caused the decay of that neighborhood.

Something caused the community's populace to transition from people who could afford them and cared to maintain them to people who... didn't.

Regional economics, social programs that arbitrarily placed people in the area who didn't care or couldn't afford upkeep, a nearby ghetto that expanded or shifted, crime - something caused a very significant socioeconomic and cultural change.

Neighborhoods don't just go to sleep gentrified one night and then the sun rises on a burned-out slum the next day.

Anybody know the area that can add some insight?

Manufacturing jobs moving offshore or disappearing.

OH is a blue collar state, or was 50 years ago.

You hit the nail on the head... but some here will tell you that manufacturing, mining and agriculture are all things that the 3rd world should be doing for US!

Here is the result of being a consumer economy.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:22:02 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm really curious what led to the demographic shift that caused the decay of that neighborhood.

Something caused the community's populace to transition from people who could afford them and cared to maintain them to people who... didn't.

Regional economics, social programs that arbitrarily placed people in the area who didn't care or couldn't afford upkeep, a nearby ghetto that expanded or shifted, crime - something caused a very significant socioeconomic and cultural change.

Neighborhoods don't just go to sleep gentrified one night and then the sun rises on a burned-out slum the next day.

Anybody know the area that can add some insight?

I think in this case, the money left during the Depression and just never returned. Owner occupied properties gave way to rentals, and tenants who couldn't care less. Add drugs and unemployment...throw in a little gang activity...it really is sad.

Whole neighborhoods in the hearts of major American cities are looking like this. With no help from a Katrina like event either.

Pretty soon, big cities will be ghost towns.

I was driving thru that neighborhood today.

Also,, There was a huge white flight in the 60s. With all the new highways being built people could now live outside the city and commute to work. The hough riots did more than burn a few city blocks, it drove the whitey to flee like never before, never to return.

East Cleveland was the upper crust back in the day, now it is by far the lowest of the low.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:23:14 PM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
A street I had to do a quote on today. Mind you, there were maybe three occupied houses. None of which I photographed. I left out the locals too, as I'm sure they don't want to be interweb famous. I once heard that every board up house on a street depreciates the others by about $5,000. So, imagine how much the sole survivors properties are worth.

Another side note. This street is off of the old "Millionaires Row", in Cleveland-East Cleveland. Where John D. Rockefeller and other notables lived. Way back in the day.

What's unfathomable to me is that these are all on the same street.

And people ask why I carry a gun.

Let me guess, blacks populate/populated most of that area? I tell you what, they destroy any area they reside in. It sickens me and it worries me how every city they live in turns to complete shit.

Kinda true

I know. Anyone who disagrees has never traveled to the inner city of a major city. I see this all the time and it really pisses me off. In the words of American History X, "they seem to have a moral obligation to crime" (maybe not exact words).

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:23:28 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
Almost as purdy as East St. Louis, IMO.

FTW

ESL is the absolute worst. That city should be declared uninhabitable.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:24:55 PM EDT

[#44]

PIRU 85

What's a compton street gang doing out on tour of the midwest?

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:25:02 PM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
A street I had to do a quote on today. Mind you, there were maybe three occupied houses. None of which I photographed. I left out the locals too, as I'm sure they don't want to be interweb famous. I once heard that every board up house on a street depreciates the others by about $5,000. So, imagine how much the sole survivors properties are worth.

Another side note. This street is off of the old "Millionaires Row", in Cleveland-East Cleveland. Where John D. Rockefeller and other notables lived. Way back in the day.

What's unfathomable to me is that these are all on the same street.

And people ask why I carry a gun.

Let me guess, blacks populate/populated most of that area? I tell you what, they destroy any area they reside in. It sickens me and it worries me how every city they live in turns to complete shit.

You are so wrong... that could be any white upperclass neighborhood... they all look that way..

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:26:02 PM EDT

[#46]

I live in the east part of Canton. $20,193.56 including closing costs bought what is probably the nicest house on my block two years ago.

My neighborhood looks very similar.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:28:24 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
I'm really curious what led to the demographic shift that caused the decay of that neighborhood.

Something caused the community's populace to transition from people who could afford them and cared to maintain them to people who... didn't.

Regional economics, social programs that arbitrarily placed people in the area who didn't care or couldn't afford upkeep, a nearby ghetto that expanded or shifted, crime - something caused a very significant socioeconomic and cultural change.

Neighborhoods don't just go to sleep gentrified one night and then the sun rises on a burned-out slum the next day.

Anybody know the area that can add some insight?

For the "hood" closest to me it was the boom after WWII and the move from cities to the burbs. People wanted a little piece of land and a yard that they actually needed to mow not just smash down by walking around in a circle.

They got that in the burbs where taxes were lower, houses were brand new but not necessarily roomier, and there was land. Not to mention garages instead of alley ways.

So they moved out in droves building and buying. They bought cars so they didn't need to take the trolley/bus/train to work. That is how they emptied.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:29:18 PM EDT

[#48]

Thats a pretty good representation of detroit too actually. Just not enoughed burned homes and garbage blowing in the wind.
The comment made about people hanging out on the porch at 2 in the afternoon, totally true.
The people that did that to the inner cities have no respect for themselves, so why the hell should they respect the city they live in.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:32:50 PM EDT

[#49]

Uhhh I believe you mean a "skreet" you had to do a quote on today.

Posted: 3/20/2009 4:34:43 PM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:
A street I had to do a quote on today. Mind you, there were maybe three occupied houses. None of which I photographed. I left out the locals too, as I'm sure they don't want to be interweb famous. I once heard that every board up house on a street depreciates the others by about $5,000. So, imagine how much the sole survivors properties are worth.

Another side note. This street is off of the old "Millionaires Row", in Cleveland-East Cleveland. Where John D. Rockefeller and other notables lived. Way back in the day.

What's unfathomable to me is that these are all on the same street.

And people ask why I carry a gun.

Let me guess, blacks populate/populated most of that area? I tell you what, they destroy any area they reside in. It sickens me and it worries me how every city they live in turns to complete shit.

Kinda true

I know. Anyone who disagrees has never traveled to the inner city of a major city. I see this all the time and it really pisses me off. In the words of American History X, "they seem to have a moral obligation to crime" (maybe not exact words).

Interesting choice of movies to derive your ideas about race.

I can show you predominately white / hispanic / whatever areas that are just as bad. Come on down to the rural south sometime.

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