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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:19:35 AM EST
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:21:43 AM EST
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normally I'm all about protecting the civil rights of US Citizens, but this POS wasn't American - so fuck him.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:28:23 AM EST
[#2]
All I can find is where apple gave gigabytes of info about the Pensacola scum, but won’t provide the FBI with a “back door” into their products.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:29:02 AM EST
[#3]
"Buy Commie products, get Commie Service." What'd you expect? 'Droid ain't NO better.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:30:37 AM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: normally I'm all about protecting the civil rights of US Citizens, but this POS wasn't American - so fuck him. If Apple creates a backdoor it will be used against US citizens too. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:33:34 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wcsv: If Apple creates a backdoor it will be used against US citizens too. BS. There is nobody in the FBI that would ever abuse their power. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:34:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If Apple creates a backdoor it will be used against US citizens too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: normally I'm all about protecting the civil rights of US Citizens, but this POS wasn't American - so fuck him. If Apple creates a backdoor it will be used against US citizens too. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:34:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: BS. There is nobody in the FBI that would ever abuse their power. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: Originally Posted By wcsv: If Apple creates a backdoor it will be used against US citizens too. BS. There is nobody in the FBI that would ever abuse their power. 
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:34:10 AM EST
[#8]
This can't be true GD told me Apple is superior to Android products.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:34:34 AM EST
[#9]
I might be wrong but I believe the FBI can already break into iPhones without Apple’s help.
I’m worried that if Apple were to help, it would eventually be abused by the government. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:36:46 AM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: All I can find is where apple gave gigabytes of info about the Pensacola scum, but won’t provide the FBI with a “back door” into their products. This. The Feds want Apple to hand over the information to break their encryption at any time or to build a backdoor into their products, and Apple has quite properly told them to go fuck themselves. They handed over massive amounts of information from the shooter’s iCloud storage as well as transactional data from the phone apps. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:39:35 AM EST
[#11]
Gov can get into my phone anytime they want as long as they don’t shoot me in the face first!
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:42:00 AM EST
[#12]
Yay Apple. Fuck Google. Fuck the surveillance state.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:42:34 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrcatbert: This. The Feds want Apple to hand over the information to break their encryption at any time or to build a backdoor into their products, and Apple has quite properly told them to go fuck themselves. They handed over massive amounts of information from the shooter’s iCloud storage as well as transactional data from the phone apps. Yeah, not seeing how Apple failed here. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:49:19 AM EST
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There is no current back door. Apple can not help them. They'd have to build in a back door. And it would only apply going forward. Not to any current stuff.
You don't want the back door. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:51:29 AM EST
[#15]
What did Apple do wrong here?
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Posted: 5/18/2020 10:54:50 AM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By L_JE: What did Apple do wrong here? Kinda hoping OP would come back and tell us. I googled “apple terrorist” and came up with the Pensacola dick head. Seems like Apple is complying like a mofo with everything but a back door. So I’m sure it’s some other case. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:00:46 AM EST
[#17]
Wait what? People are mad that Apple won't participate in civil rights violations?
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:06:35 AM EST
[#18]
Not sure what you’re talking about here.
If you mean you think Apple ought to break the security of all their devices for all time so the US government can investigate a dead guy, you probably should have your head examined. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:13:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I might be wrong but I believe the FBI can already break into iPhones without Apple's help. I'm worried that if Apple were to help, it would eventually be abused by the government. Barr announced today that they hacked the phone. It took like a year. That's a year that DOJ could have been acting on the intel -- time wasted because Apple |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:13:36 AM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If Apple creates a backdoor it will be used against US citizens too. I understand. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:14:07 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yay Apple. Fuck Google. Fuck the surveillance state. come here often? |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:15:15 AM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure what you're talking about here. If you mean you think Apple ought to break the security of all their devices for all time so the US government can investigate a dead guy, you probably should have your head examined. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:15:35 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: Barr announced today that they hacked the phone. It took like a year. That's a year that DOJ could have been acting on the intel -- time wasted because Apple Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: Originally Posted By CincoBoy: I might be wrong but I believe the FBI can already break into iPhones without Apple's help. I'm worried that if Apple were to help, it would eventually be abused by the government. Barr announced today that they hacked the phone. It took like a year. That's a year that DOJ could have been acting on the intel -- time wasted because Apple |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:15:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure what you're talking about here. If you mean you think Apple ought to break the security of all their devices for all time so the US government can investigate a dead guy, you probably should have your head examined. You assume I think before I post. I do not make that assumption. eta: Also - that last thing - I've been trying to get my head examined since the lock down started. I have a history with busty Asians, but I also have a thing for Gingers. I'm a freak like that. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:15:58 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Buy Commie products, get Commie Service." What'd you expect? 'Droid ain't NO better. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:17:01 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, Apple should have to devote their time and resources to breaking into the phone? I think it's time to pick a side. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:19:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: I think it's time to pick a side. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: Originally Posted By L_JE: So, Apple should have to devote their time and resources to breaking into the phone? I think it's time to pick a side. I choose freedom, even when it hurts. The .gov would abuse the shit out of any backdoor access granted them, and you know it. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:24:11 AM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: I think it's time to pick a side. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: Originally Posted By L_JE: So, Apple should have to devote their time and resources to breaking into the phone? I think it's time to pick a side. Now what? |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:26:05 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: Irony. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: Originally Posted By Kiju: "Buy Commie products, get Commie Service." What'd you expect? 'Droid ain't NO better. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:26:22 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: Gov can get into my phone anytime they want as long as they don’t shoot me in the face first! Yeah, all they need is my cold dead fingertip. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:29:02 AM EST
[#31]
Why can't companies be more like Huawei? This would all be so much easier.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:29:05 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: Barr announced today that they hacked the phone. It took like a year. That's a year that DOJ could have been acting on the intel -- time wasted because Apple Wasn’t the shooting in December? Are you using some kind of metric year or something? |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:29:07 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I choose freedom, even when it hurts. The .gov would abuse the shit out of any backdoor access granted them, and you know it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, Apple should have to devote their time and resources to breaking into the phone? I think it's time to pick a side. I choose freedom, even when it hurts. The .gov would abuse the shit out of any backdoor access granted them, and you know it. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:29:33 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fl-ar-fan: I choose freedom, even when it hurts. The .gov would abuse the shit out of any backdoor access granted them, and you know it. Exactly this. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:33:44 AM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: Irony. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Subnet: Originally Posted By Kiju: "Buy Commie products, get Commie Service." What'd you expect? 'Droid ain't NO better.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:41:56 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By L_JE: What did Apple do wrong here? Didn't fetch their shine box when requested. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:58:18 AM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By c7aea15: That's how I see it. One you open the box it's all over Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By c7aea15: Originally Posted By wcsv: Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: normally I'm all about protecting the civil rights of US Citizens, but this POS wasn't American - so fuck him. If Apple creates a backdoor it will be used against US citizens too. That's how Apple sees it. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 11:58:59 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gspointer: All I can find is where apple gave gigabytes of info about the Pensacola scum, but won’t provide the FBI with a “back door” into their products. I agree...good on Apple. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:01:27 PM EST
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:03:26 PM EST
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:05:27 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: normally I'm all about protecting the civil rights of US Citizens, but this POS wasn't American - so fuck him. Never heard the phrase “Don’t open pandora’s box,” have you? |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:07:33 PM EST
[#42]
Man there are some dumb motherfuckers on this site. Looking at you people bashing Apple for this.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:10:15 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: I think it's time to pick a side. @Hollywood_Shooter I choose freedom. 
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:12:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeEIB: Man there are some dumb motherfuckers on this site. Looking at you people bashing Apple for this. If the Patriot Act reauthorization, FISA court abuse, IRS scandal, FBI scandal, and all the other lawless government overreach demonstrated in the last 2 decades wasn't enough to prove that corruption is rampant top to bottom, then you're probably in the bolded category above. |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:21:54 PM EST
[#45]
I support Apple's position on this as long as they are consistent.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:44:58 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeEIB: Man there are some dumb motherfuckers on this site. Looking at you people bashing Apple for this. Bizarro World...and this time it's us! |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:47:34 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1057: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1057: Originally Posted By Gspointer: Originally Posted By wcsv: If Apple creates a backdoor it will be used against US citizens too. BS. There is nobody in the FBI that would ever abuse their power. Legacy of J Edgar Hoover (his mentor Lewis Rosenstiel and his best friend Roy Cohn) |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 12:50:26 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fl-ar-fan: I choose freedom, even when it hurts. The .gov would abuse the shit out of any backdoor access granted them, and you know it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fl-ar-fan: Originally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: Originally Posted By L_JE: So, Apple should have to devote their time and resources to breaking into the phone? I think it's time to pick a side. I choose freedom, even when it hurts. The .gov would abuse the shit out of any backdoor access granted them, and you know it. Agreed |
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Posted: 5/18/2020 1:34:32 PM EST
[#49]
I'd be the last person to say .gov wouldn't abuse. That's what .gov does.
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Posted: 5/18/2020 1:42:21 PM EST
[#50]
terrorists don't play by the rules.
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