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A spear A battle axe A bastard sword A gladius A mace A. couple of really big knives A tomahawk and a shit ton of ammo so that I never have to use any of it. |
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Also the knowledge and ability to make gun powder and firearms.
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I've worked on 3 people involved on the bad end of a swordsmanship display for various reasons.
1- patient A's arm was severed with a Katana in one downward strike. they said it blopped right on the floor. 2- patient B was cleaved right down the middle from the side of the neck down to mid sternum with a broadsword. 3- patient C was poke stabbed mid chest with a broadsword, huge wound. |
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Spear for stand off or defense against a mounted opponent.
Scramasax and axe for up close or enclosed spaces. |
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Something that is effective without needing to be sharp or that requires constant maintenance, but is also strong. Perhaps an aluminum bat, or some other sort of bashing weapon. View Quote Exactly. My favorite hand weapon is a Cold Steel War hammer.....any ijit ( me! me!) can use it, and it is a VERY effective historical weapon. |
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View Quote one guy bought a broadsword at Mayfest as a BS goofball hobby toy and something like 2 weeks later cleaved that dude in damn near 2 while protecting himself in a home invasion. |
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Unless you train several hours against water bottles, you are all wasting your time... https://youtu.be/4dKwHOfd2dk View Quote |
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I've worked on 3 people involved on the bad end of a swordsmanship display for various reasons. 1- patient A's arm was severed with a Katana in one downward strike. they said it blopped right on the floor. 2- patient B was cleaved right down the middle from the side of the neck down to mid sternum with a broadsword. 3- patient C was poke stabbed mid chest with a broadsword, huge wound. View Quote I guess they take the Renn Faire very seriously in your neck of the woods. |
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This isn't medieval Europe, He said post apocalyptic. Limited ammo. Which means guns are still around, so firearms are still primary weapons. I don't want to carry around a rifle and an eight foot fucking spear. Melee is a secondary weapon, for me that means sword. Without plate armor to deal with, the sabre would be the most technologically advanced sword. Hand protection much better than a katana, and better steel. I chose the cutlass because it's a little shorter, and has a more robust construction than the sabre. Sabre would be my second choice, preferably Polish. View Quote No, it's not. As such the last swords used by sword fighters when armor was not used and firearms were limited was the rapier. The cavalry saber was meant for ride-by attacks to increase swing while on horseback, so unless you are a master rider I would probably put some big clunky saber away. It is good for it's purpose, nothing more. Same with maces and war hammers, great against armor but heavy and unwieldy otherwise. Also, unless you spear folks are going to pal around with 50 of your closest friends to make a shield wall and spears to support it I would go with something better, like a sword. Swords were the pinnacle of melee fighting because they were adaptable, had the ability to cut, stab, and bash if needed, and had the largest striking zones of hand weapons. Hitting anywhere with the two sharpened planes of attack and you will do some damage, unlike spears/maces/hammers/axes/etc. You all really need to brush up on your melee weapons. |
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I've worked on 3 people involved on the bad end of a swordsmanship display for various reasons. 1- patient A's arm was severed with a Katana in one downward strike. they said it blopped right on the floor. 2- patient B was cleaved right down the middle from the side of the neck down to mid sternum with a broadsword. 3- patient C was poke stabbed mid chest with a broadsword, huge wound. View Quote Where the fuck do you work? For me, since no one is wearing plate or chain in all likelyhood, give me any light and quick blade such as a rapier with a good handguard. Give me a good kite shield with my ancient family arms painted on it as well! |
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whatever the old Indian had in last of the mahicans he messed up mogwa up pretty good
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Short sword and shield for me, probably a xiphos and aspis. Men armed with spears/polearms are far, far more effective when fighting in formation, and/or against cavalry. One of the reasons Greek hoplites carried a short sword was because it was their weapon of choice if the phalanx disintegrated (and the xiphos used by some Spartans was only about 12"-18" long).
It's just too easy to die in this situation with a spear; If the guy trying to kill you makes it past your spear point, you lose your head. If your spear gets stuck in his shield, or you only hit him with a glancing blow, you lose your head. Even if he gets stuck, he might still be able to strike you, and you could lose a limb or worse. Unless you're confident that you can stick your spear through the eye socket of a guy who's charging at you with a raised shield and sword, you might want to pick something else. |
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whatever the old Indian had in last of the mahicans he messed up mogwa up pretty good View Quote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunstock_war_club |
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No, it's not. As such the last swords used by sword fighters when armor was not used and firearms were limited was the rapier. The cavalry saber was meant for ride-by attacks to increase swing while on horseback, so unless you are a master rider I would probably put some big clunky saber away. It is good for it's purpose, nothing more. Same with maces and war hammers, great against armor but heavy and unwieldy otherwise. Also, unless you spear folks are going to pal around with 50 of your closest friends to make a shield wall and spears to support it I would go with something better, like a sword. Swords were the pinnacle of melee fighting because they were adaptable, had the ability to cut, stab, and bash if needed, and had the largest striking zones of hand weapons. Hitting anywhere with the two sharpened planes of attack and you will do some damage, unlike spears/maces/hammers/axes/etc. You all really need to brush up on your melee weapons. View Quote |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunstock_war_club https://moviereviewtheblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/magua-waits.jpg View Quote |
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Probably the ultimate incarnation of the fighting sword. It came a century or two after the sword had a whole hell of a lot of battlefield utility, but hey, that's how shit happens sometimes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm going with the American Cavalry Saber http://www.cavhooah.com/info/images/uploads/2010/05/CavHooah-Saber-300x300.jpg Great for slashing, and stabbing, one handed, with knuckle protection Probably the ultimate incarnation of the fighting sword. It came a century or two after the sword had a whole hell of a lot of battlefield utility, but hey, that's how shit happens sometimes. Cavalry sabers would suck as a melee weapon. They didn't have sharpened edges. They were meant to be used by a guy on horseback to stab guys not on horseback. If you're not a guy on horseback, they're worthless. |
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I'm honestly surprised people aren't bringing up spears or bayonet?
The tool is most effective as a hunting tool as well as a self defense weapon. It's also the easiest to make given you got sharp stones and some paracords to tie around a branch. |
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http://www.atlantacutlery.com/images/Product/large/kukris-machetes_assam-rifles-kukri_959.jpg View Quote I have a few Cold Steel San Mai blades. Good tools. ETA: Cold Steel San Mai Bowies are up to the task of close in work, also. |
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Yeah...that's not a mace, it's a flail. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I always liked the concept of a mace... https://i0.wp.com/www.publicmedievalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Flail-1-ball-91-p.jpg?resize=800%2C521 Just seems super effective. And was rarely used because even with training they would just as likely injure the one wielding it. |
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I would make a semi auto crossbow. Not sure at the moment what the powersourse would be but yet this is the route i'd take View Quote Chinese figured it out a few hundred years ago so I'm sure you'll come up with something. Attached File |
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sabers chop not stab but yeah, chop down foot soldiers. Weight is forward to assist the motion. http://ryanwolfe.weebly.com/uploads/1/5/5/6/1556620/2728629.jpg?212x155 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Cavalry sabers would suck as a melee weapon. They didn't have sharpened edges. They were meant to be used by a guy on horseback to stab guys not on horseback. If you're not a guy on horseback, they're worthless. You've obviously not handled many late period cavalry sabers, when they reached their peak of design and use. They don't have edges on them because, after the Napoleonic period, cavalry sabers were universally used as stabbing weapons. That's why Pattons 1913 pattern cavalry sabers was designed straight, not curved. Let's hear our friend Patton comment on the sabers use In the Peninsula War the English nearly always used the sword for cutting. The French dragoons, on the contrary, used only the point which, with their long straight swords caused almost always a fatal wound. This made the English protest that the French did not fight fair. Marshal Saxe wished to arm the French cavalry with a blade of a triangular cross section so as to make the use of the point obligatory. At Wagram, when the cavalry of the guard passed in review before a charge, Napoleon called to them, "Don't cut! The point! The point!" |
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For the avg Joe that isn't a hand to hand expert? A tomahawk would be a decent option. Practical in many ways beyond fighting, too.
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