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Originally Posted By WIC: I disagree numbers aren't hard, work is hard View Quote Work ethic is absolutely an issue with the younger graduates we are seeing now. Nobody seems to want to put more effort in than the bare minimum. I'm sure the boomers said the same thing about us Gen-x kids when we graduated school but it does feel different than it did even 10 years ago. |
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Originally Posted By 80085: Speaking of non typical Emerson knives. I snapped a picture of this at the store last month. Hand jigged. $880. https://i.imgur.com/XwyyhII.jpeg View Quote Ehhhhh |
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Originally Posted By conndcj: The last time I visited my Mom, she surprised me with potato gnocchi and her Campari tomato sauce. Just Campari tomatoes, basil, garlic and olive oil. I love it, but I never ask her for it because despite the simple ingredients, you need to cook the tomatoes until you can peel the skins off and then crush them in the pan. She's 87 now, and you really have to stand over the range to make it. Her potato gnocchis are awesome but they are a bitch to make when it's humid out. These came out great because of the Nonna touch.😁 They are like fluffy pillows of awesomeness. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60239/1000002227-3301357.jpg View Quote Damn. That's awesome. It looks amazing. Well done gnocchi is awesome. Maybe time to start practicing? |
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Originally Posted By 80085: Someone will buy them. Not me though. I’m happy with the sinkevich. https://i.imgur.com/N5vGadY.jpeg View Quote Much better looking |
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Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: https://i.ibb.co/QCJW8NV/IMG-1507.jpg First day of classes, last full time college semester, still a couple years from graduating. Fuck my life. View Quote Pretty sure I took that class. |
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Originally Posted By 80085: Someone will buy them. Not me though. I'm happy with the sinkevich. https://i.imgur.com/N5vGadY.jpeg View Quote The constant shopping for a Sigma isn't helping either. |
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Originally Posted By WIC: https://i.imgur.com/cMDqQpt.jpeg View Quote The orange contrast is really cool |
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204916/20240822_151416-3301625.jpg View Quote Really nice shot |
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Originally Posted By sywagon: I think you are extrapolating too far from your experience lawyering & maybe doing basic construction. There is a reason an engineering degree is valued highly in the workplace. It's not that easy, evidenced by what happens when they get it wrong - https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2018/03/bridge21-1200x680.jpg View Quote um, excuse me? basic construction? I have the ability to build an entire home, every aspect of it, start to finish. there is no extrapolating. first and foremost before being an attorney I am a counselor, a consultant. I am in constant contact with other business owners. They all say the same thing. I know plenty of engineers. They are all, |
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What the fuck, Travis?
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Originally Posted By 80085: I agree. This is over sharing but I’ll note that this calendar year alone I’ve put in almost 3,000 work hours. I should hit 3,000 hours in a couple weeks. Today, coincidentally, is the first day in the year that I have not worked at all. In fact I took the day off purposely for my well-being. Hotdogs are serious business… Work ethic isn’t just working many hours, is being dedicated to what you do. I’ve seen many “new” people come in and flail because work ethic and life experience is lacking. It takes years, nearly a decade actually, to become proficient in my line of hotdog manufacturing and sales, and there are many who can’t cut it for whatever reason even after being employed for a few years. Even though it requires a massively steep learning curve that is essentially never ending, and although education is extremely important to understand the complexities of the work, a person who can work on their own, who also has a solid work ethic, is the only type of person that will succeed. Give me people with field experience in anything who have learned the value of hard work, and if they have an accompanying education at the basic level of a science or engineering BS and I can work with them. Throw me a doctorate with zero life experience and I’m going to struggle getting them to where they need to be to succeed. It used to be, at least when I was growing up, that you’ll never get anywhere in life without a degree. Now it seems the tables have turned and you’ll never get anywhere in life without a solid work ethic. View Quote Thank you. So well said. I have noted you have been burning the midnight oil this year in particular. You've been in my thoughts. What is this about manufacturing wieners now? |
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Originally Posted By 80085: I agree. This is over sharing but I'll note that this calendar year alone I've put in almost 3,000 work hours. I should hit 3,000 hours in a couple weeks. Today, coincidentally, is the first day in the year that I have not worked at all. In fact I took the day off purposely for my well-being. Hotdogs are serious business Work ethic isn't just working many hours, is being dedicated to what you do. I've seen many "new" people come in and flail because work ethic and life experience is lacking. It takes years, nearly a decade actually, to become proficient in my line of hotdog manufacturing and sales, and there are many who can't cut it for whatever reason even after being employed for a few years. Even though it requires a massively steep learning curve that is essentially never ending, and although education is extremely important to understand the complexities of the work, a person who can work on their own, who also has a solid work ethic, is the only type of person that will succeed. Give me people with field experience in anything who have learned the value of hard work, and if they have an accompanying education at the basic level of a science or engineering BS and I can work with them. Throw me a doctorate with zero life experience and I'm going to struggle getting them to where they need to be to succeed. It used to be, at least when I was growing up, that you'll never get anywhere in life without a degree. Now it seems the tables have turned and you'll never get anywhere in life without a solid work ethic. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 80085: Originally Posted By WIC: that's a highly subjective viewpoint. for the number of hours I work, I wouldn't agree. give me a kid that knows how to work every day of the week. I can teach people a lot of things, I can't teach them a work ethic. I agree. This is over sharing but I'll note that this calendar year alone I've put in almost 3,000 work hours. I should hit 3,000 hours in a couple weeks. Today, coincidentally, is the first day in the year that I have not worked at all. In fact I took the day off purposely for my well-being. Hotdogs are serious business Work ethic isn't just working many hours, is being dedicated to what you do. I've seen many "new" people come in and flail because work ethic and life experience is lacking. It takes years, nearly a decade actually, to become proficient in my line of hotdog manufacturing and sales, and there are many who can't cut it for whatever reason even after being employed for a few years. Even though it requires a massively steep learning curve that is essentially never ending, and although education is extremely important to understand the complexities of the work, a person who can work on their own, who also has a solid work ethic, is the only type of person that will succeed. Give me people with field experience in anything who have learned the value of hard work, and if they have an accompanying education at the basic level of a science or engineering BS and I can work with them. Throw me a doctorate with zero life experience and I'm going to struggle getting them to where they need to be to succeed. It used to be, at least when I was growing up, that you'll never get anywhere in life without a degree. Now it seems the tables have turned and you'll never get anywhere in life without a solid work ethic. That's a lot of life to put into work though. I respect it and applaud it, but thank god my main perk is free time. I have a nine month contract per year to start with, and have the experience to produce really high full time equivalents very efficiently with my time during the academic year. |
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Originally Posted By WIC: um, excuse me? basic construction? I have the ability to build an entire home, every aspect of it, start to finish. there is no extrapolating. first and foremost before being an attorney I am a counselor, a consultant. I am in constant contact with other business owners. They all say the same thing. I know plenty of engineers. They are all, https://i.imgur.com/7382bEu.gif View Quote |
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Originally Posted By sywagon: I advise students - never saw this particular situation where you're done with full time but years from graduating? Also, hang in there. That kind of stuff leads to rewarding careers that are well worth the struggle. View Quote Basically I started at a two-year college and didn't finish my associates before transferring. When I did transfer all my math and science classes transferred, but not my humanities courses. So I have to stay at university longer to finish my humanities and social science requirements. Pair that with the pre-reqs and stuff for some of my other engineering courses and I have 4 semesters left, but only about ~30 credits based on the last time I spoke to advising in the fall. Speaking of I need to set up an appointment for this semester to make sure I'm all on track still with my plan. I like to make sure I'm where I should be on my degree after the transfer fuck up. Honestly though, 6 years for a bachelors isn't terrible. |
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Originally Posted By Reubjames: That's the truth. For our pavement engineering group, we really won't hire anyone without a masters degree. They have to have the specialized courses and some foundational of understanding the fairly complex concepts for multi-layer pavement section analysis and design. Teaching them that would take 2-3 years of OJT. Shit can get complicated. For the design group I run, I'll hire young engineers with a bachelor's degree. My team designs traffic control plans mostly along with some road reconstruction and similar civil infrastructure. Traffic control design has to be taught on the job, nobody learns that in school. They still have to have a degree from an accredited engineering school simply because I don't want the OJT to be lost on someone who can't grow into a PE and start running and sealing their own projects. I can only review and seal plans from 3-4 EITs before I become the bottleneck in the process. Fortunately, traffic control design is fairly cookbook stuff. Follow the MUTCD and you're good to go. It's the CAD and/or GIS background that are gold stars when I'm interviewing new EITs. View Quote I like you. You're a nice dude. Here's some free advice. Hold out for the peeps that are non traditional. Maybe they did some undergrad, maybe they waited, did some work, got their degree mid to late 20s. Makes a world of difference. |
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Originally Posted By WIC: wrong smart to get the experience and hopefully reduce/eliminate debt all these young kids I see coming in have no experience and massive debt and think they are just supposed to get paid for their piece of paper while we have to pour insane amounts of time, energy and money into them on the hope that they will figure their shit out and be a productive team member. it's painful. so much better when they have experience. View Quote I made sure I had a plan to minimize debt, I'll have like 20-25k when I graduate and my wife is on board with the plan to pay it off my first year of working. Beyond that I have made sure to stay working wherever possible preferably in a field related to my degree, that's why I spent all summer in the middle of nowhere working in that open pit copper mine. |
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Originally Posted By 80085: I agree. This is over sharing but I’ll note that this calendar year alone I’ve put in almost 3,000 work hours. I should hit 3,000 hours in a couple weeks. Today, coincidentally, is the first day in the year that I have not worked at all. In fact I took the day off purposely for my well-being. Hotdogs are serious business… Work ethic isn’t just working many hours, is being dedicated to what you do. I’ve seen many “new” people come in and flail because work ethic and life experience is lacking. It takes years, nearly a decade actually, to become proficient in my line of hotdog manufacturing and sales, and there are many who can’t cut it for whatever reason even after being employed for a few years. Even though it requires a massively steep learning curve that is essentially never ending, and although education is extremely important to understand the complexities of the work, a person who can work on their own, who also has a solid work ethic, is the only type of person that will succeed. Give me people with field experience in anything who have learned the value of hard work, and if they have an accompanying education at the basic level of a science or engineering BS and I can work with them. Throw me a doctorate with zero life experience and I’m going to struggle getting them to where they need to be to succeed. It used to be, at least when I was growing up, that you’ll never get anywhere in life without a degree. Now it seems the tables have turned and you’ll never get anywhere in life without a solid work ethic. View Quote Dad made sure I had the work ethic, but he also told me the piece of paper would make a bit easier. But you're correct, no paper replaces work ethic. |
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Originally Posted By Reubjames: Work ethic is absolutely an issue with the younger graduates we are seeing now. Nobody seems to want to put more effort in than the bare minimum. I'm sure the boomers said the same thing about us Gen-x kids when we graduated school but it does feel different than it did even 10 years ago. View Quote see sy!? I have had this conversation with so many companies. Yes, you stop and wonder if past generations said the same thing about other generations, but consistently I hear, no, this is different. If you stop and think about it, the current generation coming of working age has never really had to work for anything. They have faced no challenges in their lives. They have celebrated "graduating" kindergarten. and every grade thereafter like it is some kind of fucking miracle. They think the paper alone entitles them to everything. The paper was the end, not the beginning for them. |
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Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Basically I started at a two-year college and didn't finish my associates before transferring. When I did transfer all my math and science classes transferred, but not my humanities courses. So I have to stay at university longer to finish my humanities and social science requirements. Pair that with the pre-reqs and stuff for some of my other engineering courses and I have 4 semesters left, but only about ~30 credits based on the last time I spoke to advising in the fall. Speaking of I need to set up an appointment for this semester to make sure I'm all on track still with my plan. I like to make sure I'm where I should be on my degree after the transfer fuck up. Honestly though, 6 years for a bachelors isn't terrible. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Originally Posted By sywagon: I advise students - never saw this particular situation where you're done with full time but years from graduating? Also, hang in there. That kind of stuff leads to rewarding careers that are well worth the struggle. Basically I started at a two-year college and didn't finish my associates before transferring. When I did transfer all my math and science classes transferred, but not my humanities courses. So I have to stay at university longer to finish my humanities and social science requirements. Pair that with the pre-reqs and stuff for some of my other engineering courses and I have 4 semesters left, but only about ~30 credits based on the last time I spoke to advising in the fall. Speaking of I need to set up an appointment for this semester to make sure I'm all on track still with my plan. I like to make sure I'm where I should be on my degree after the transfer fuck up. Honestly though, 6 years for a bachelors isn't terrible. |
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Originally Posted By WIC: I like you. You're a nice dude. Here's some free advice. Hold out for the peeps that are non traditional. Maybe they did some undergrad, maybe they waited, did some work, got their degree mid to late 20s. Makes a world of difference. View Quote Absolutely. I agree when we can find them. Veterans who earned their way through college via the GI bill and the Hazlewood Act here in TX, people that worked in another field before ours, those that worked first and went to school later. Always on the lookout for those kind of people but they are not always easy to find. That's me in a nutshell (not the vet part though). I finished my degree when I was 27. I worked for a few years as a design technician between my first attempt at engineering school and my second, much more successful attempt. I definitely appreciate real life experience and know it makes a huge difference. |
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Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: I made sure I had a plan to minimize debt, I'll have like 20-25k when I graduate and my wife is on board with the plan to pay it off my first year of working. Beyond that I have made sure to stay working wherever possible preferably in a field related to my degree, that's why I spent all summer in the middle of nowhere working in that open pit copper mine. View Quote sharp kid. I love that you talked to your wife about this. too many marriages end due to money issues. People don't properly talk about it. When my wife and I discussed getting married, there was no proposal, just a discussion, one of the key things we discussed was whether we could survive on just her income fresh out of school because the job market was so bad, I could not get a job in my field for six months, and then I was let go from my first job as an attorney in a mass layoff for a large company. I remember standing there in the corp office watching one of the many tvs they had in the hallways showing the stock market crashing one day. Within a month they were letting go waves of people. So then I moved to debt collection where I fully developed my persona. Good choices. You and your marriage will be stronger for it. |
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Originally Posted By sywagon: Maybe find some online courses from proper universities that they your school will pre-approve for transfer for the Gen. Ed. credits? View Quote I probably could have down that a few years ago when I initially transferred, but now I finish all my humanities credits this semester and it’s mostly the other courses that require each other for pre-reqs. And frankly it’s fine cause it’ll just give me opportunity to work full time again during school, then probably go do another summer with the mining company, and then hopefully have a new grad offer after I’m done. It’s been a long road but I’m ready for it to be over. |
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Originally Posted By WIC: see sy!? I have had this conversation with so many companies. Yes, you stop and wonder if past generations said the same thing about other generations, but consistently I hear, no, this is different. If you stop and think about it, the current generation coming of working age has never really had to work for anything. They have faced no challenges in their lives. They have celebrated "graduating" kindergarten. and every grade thereafter like it is some kind of fucking miracle. They think the paper alone entitles them to everything. The paper was the end, not the beginning for them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By Reubjames: Work ethic is absolutely an issue with the younger graduates we are seeing now. Nobody seems to want to put more effort in than the bare minimum. I'm sure the boomers said the same thing about us Gen-x kids when we graduated school but it does feel different than it did even 10 years ago. see sy!? I have had this conversation with so many companies. Yes, you stop and wonder if past generations said the same thing about other generations, but consistently I hear, no, this is different. If you stop and think about it, the current generation coming of working age has never really had to work for anything. They have faced no challenges in their lives. They have celebrated "graduating" kindergarten. and every grade thereafter like it is some kind of fucking miracle. They think the paper alone entitles them to everything. The paper was the end, not the beginning for them. Ironically the most value per hour I've ever gotten for my degree was paid to me by a lawyer though |
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Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: Majoring in mechanical engineering, most of my engineering work experience is involved with mining and minerals processing View Quote Excellent. I started in ME, finished in CE though. I expect you'll go places with your prior experience. Are you planning on staying in the mining industry? If so, send me some Titanium, I need some for my knives and that shit has gotten high $$ Seriously though, best of luck with your school and future career advancement once that degree is finished. |
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Originally Posted By sywagon: Building a home is very basic construction, yes, sorry but it is. I can't do it, and I'm not putting it down. It isn't a bridge though. View Quote "I can't do it, but it's really basic" LOL, no. And we weren't building cookie cutter simple homes or McMansions. We did full custom unique luxury homes. stonework, masonry, HVAC, electrical, plumbing, landscaping, design, gas, foundations, metal, you name it, I've done it. Bridges are easy. just put a plank across the gap. Done. Next you're going to say it's easy to be a short order cook. |
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Originally Posted By 80085: Someone will buy them. Not me though. I’m happy with the sinkevich. https://i.imgur.com/N5vGadY.jpeg View Quote I like the blade shape and grind |
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Originally Posted By Reubjames: Excellent. I started in ME, finished in CE though. I expect you'll go places with your prior experience. Are you planning on staying in the mining industry? If so, send me some Titanium, I need some for my knives and that shit has gotten high $$ Seriously though, best of luck with your school and future career advancement once that degree is finished. View Quote We mine copper my good sir, with a side of molybendum. Which while good for knife steels, isn’t titanium. But yeah I want to stay in it. Copper mining isn’t going anywhere with how focused the world is on electrification. And it keeps me in rural Arizona which I love. |
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Originally Posted By Reubjames: Absolutely. I agree when we can find them. Veterans who earned their way through college via the GI bill and the Hazlewood Act here in TX, people that worked in another field before ours, those that worked first and went to school later. Always on the lookout for those kind of people but they are not always easy to find. That's me in a nutshell (not the vet part though). I finished my degree when I was 27. I worked for a few years as a design technician between my first attempt at engineering school and my second, much more successful attempt. I definitely appreciate real life experience and know it makes a huge difference. View Quote yeah, when we can find them. we had to let go of a few recently that were young, super smart, crazy smart, but just couldn't get their shit together and work. it hurts. feels like we are falling short mentoring. but no matter how much we reflect on it, it keeps coming back to that work ethic and experience. we got a young one recently that worked at Menards through college. Menards. One might say what the fuck does that have to do with law? Didn't care. I said this one knows how to work. proving it every day now. we got lucky. |
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Originally Posted By sywagon: I've never really claimed that current graduates are up to the standards we had, but I can't say I was personally aware of it being that bad. Colleagues do complain that students are getting weaker all the time, and people complain about grade inflation all the time, but I use the same level of exam difficulty that I have for 20 years and I can get many of them to perform. Sometimes they aren't aware what they capable of because it has never been demanded of them. I don't have to work with them or supervise them on real jobs though. Ironically the most value per hour I've ever gotten for my degree was paid to me by a lawyer though View Quote exactly. see my comment above about the smart ones we had to let go. it is bad. it is going to get worse before it gets better. |
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Originally Posted By Reubjames: Absolutely. I agree when we can find them. Veterans who earned their way through college via the GI bill and the Hazlewood Act here in TX, people that worked in another field before ours, those that worked first and went to school later. Always on the lookout for those kind of people but they are not always easy to find. That's me in a nutshell (not the vet part though). I finished my degree when I was 27. I worked for a few years as a design technician between my first attempt at engineering school and my second, much more successful attempt. I definitely appreciate real life experience and know it makes a huge difference. View Quote Engineering school do be a bitch. I’ll be 26 when I graduate. Props for going back for a second round. |
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Originally Posted By eagarminuteman: We mine copper my good sir, with a side of molybendum. Which while good for knife steels, isn’t titanium. But yeah I want to stay in it. Copper mining isn’t going anywhere with how focused the world is on electrification. And it keeps me in rural Arizona which I love. View Quote which reminds me Reub, copper liners??? could skip some g10 then. copper bolsters? hmmm..... |
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shouldn't you be starting the next round of work force rearing again soon here sy?
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Originally Posted By WIC: which reminds me Reub, copper liners??? could skip some g10 then. copper bolsters? hmmm..... View Quote Copper liners and bolsters, natural end grain canvas micarta with acid washed carbon steel... Chef's kiss. Originally Posted By WIC: what do you have for black micarta? anything left of the special bushing material from the massive water saw? View Quote I have black canvas, linen and burlap (iirc you didn't care for the burlap though. Too much resin or something). I might have a couple of small pieces of the bushing left. I replaced a pair of forklift mast trunnion bushings at work a few months ago that were made from the same or very similar stuff. I took the old ones home . |
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