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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:44:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: you don't even own a knife in either, you are just looking at charts Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By sywagon: Magnacut & Vanadis you don't even own a knife in either, you are just looking at charts Trusting science is not "just looking at charts". You aren't going to learn more about a steel by opening packages. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:45:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: How is the tonic the issue? He's down south, year-round mosquito's are a thing. Wouldn't want anyone to catch malaria just to abide by Northern Social Customs. Problem solved! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: Originally Posted By sywagon: I think the tonic part is the actual issue. Have a martini instead. How is the tonic the issue? He's down south, year-round mosquito's are a thing. Wouldn't want anyone to catch malaria just to abide by Northern Social Customs. Originally Posted By secretwheelman: I'm not much of a gin man either, so I won't have to swap. We're already on the vodka. Problem solved! |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:46:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: something new we are doing for our people. bread, pb, jam, salad greens, salad dressing. thought it would be nice in addition to the snackies we offer. only a few people have gone for it. we will give it a bit more time. also picked up some sample sunglasses to test before giving them to our people for an upcoming event. some wild names. office manager claimed the ones called "Flamingos on a Booze Cruise" already. https://i.imgur.com/N6ust7j.jpg |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218303/IMG_2195_jpeg-3307231.JPG Sweet! I thought it was that. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:53:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbb2: What a nice neighborhood you live in. how do you think I afford the knife life? |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:55:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrSig239: Sweet! I thought it was that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrSig239: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218303/IMG_2195_jpeg-3307231.JPG Sweet! I thought it was that.  I never did hear back from R1 about the replacement pivot screw, but it's not as bad in person as I originally thought. I still wanna find one though. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:56:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: that is subjective Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By sywagon: Yeah, but that is because everything else in that category flat out sucks. If you plot it on the high alloy & high speed it gets its ass kicked solidly. that is subjective |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:57:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: Wrong (I have one of them). Trusting science is not "just looking at charts". You aren't going to learn more about a steel by opening packages. 
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:57:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DamascusKnifemaker: I haven't posted in a while. How about some different cutting implements. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/78788/1000001689-3291246.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/78788/1000001690-3291247.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/78788/1000001691-3292173.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/78788/1000001692-3292171.jpg where were you about 30 pages ago? |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:58:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rbb2: Remember how it was impossible to get MagnaCut when it was first released? Probably the same thing at work here, high demand and production isn't ramped up. And I do think it has a bit of vanadium in it. huh, it does it looks like it has been out for about 2 years now at least |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:59:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 80085: Copycat. I posted this like three years ago. It’s ok though, I’m pleased to be your creative inspiration. https://i.imgur.com/pxtW2NO.jpeg Hot. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:59:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: Oh yes.  They were the second best dumplings |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:59:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: Falkor's fever dream would've been my first pick. I will take whatever is left at the end, cause I look good in everything. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:00:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: isn't that a download I uploaded it first to see if that would work after reports that people couldn't upload |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:03:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: No, it really couldn't be more objective. Using the same scale and rating system and testing, Vanadis has higher toughness, almost double the edge retention, and 8x the corrosion resistance. it's still subjective because it is not just about sciencey stuff, it is also about cool factor when you tell people about it. Hey man, cool new knife you got, what's the blade steel? Vanadis Wut? Isn't she like that old lady from the Price is Right or something? versus Hey man, cool new knife you got, what's the blade steel? ApexUltra Fuck yeah man, that's pretty cool Yeah, it's from Austria dude, where can I get me some?! |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:04:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: Have I ever told any of you about this little place called https://i.imgur.com/JYXY19D.jpg No you haven't |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:04:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: austria I'm sold ETA: Reading that reminds me, DFARM, the other thing about A2 is the naturally occurring fine grain structure. is very nice. ETA2: And the middle of that second screen shot, sywagon, is why it is important to not only think about hi speed hi alloy all the time. when the zombie apocalypse comes, you will need the guys that know how to do a heat treat in 50 gallon drum just off the interstate exit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By conndcj: Here ya go. On the last screenshot, you just need the last six lines. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60239/1000002256-3307228.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60239/1000002257-3307229.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60239/1000002258-3307230.jpg austria I'm sold ETA: Reading that reminds me, DFARM, the other thing about A2 is the naturally occurring fine grain structure. is very nice. ETA2: And the middle of that second screen shot, sywagon, is why it is important to not only think about hi speed hi alloy all the time. when the zombie apocalypse comes, you will need the guys that know how to do a heat treat in 50 gallon drum just off the interstate exit.  I have O1, 1095 & Blue Super BTW.  |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:05:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By conndcj: Certainly is. Now given the proclivity of some guys here being very set in their ways, I'm a bit worried mentioning this but G&T season ends on Labor Day. Hey, I don't make the rules, I just follow them. I thought it was when the average daily temp for a week drops below 76F |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:05:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Guns and turbos? I could get behind that. Another solid choice. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:07:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: OKOKOK I was chatting with a dude last night and he drops this bomb on me. I mean, why not make me pick one kind of soft and one kind of hard cheese why dontcha?! And of course the real answer is, it doesn't matter for most people most of the time. But, we have this wonderful variety because different steels do different things better. So many questions coming to mind. Are there any limitations? Are there any special considerations? What type of outdoor use? General camp? General utility? Fishing? Hunting? The outdoors is a big place. Nevertheless, we shall endeavor to address this in a vacuum. a wise and handsome gentleman, we'll call him Kuraki, once told me 3V is the only steel you need. You can vary the heat treat to give it the different qualities you need for most any scenario and it is tough as hell for minimal edge deformation so you can strop it back quick. I think we can find a little more breadth than that though. sure, there are lots of other flavors out there, it's fun to discuss the new hotness, but what is ideal for a knife you will be using? chips are bad, very very bad, so toughness has a special place. you don't want to be sharpening all the time, so it should have good edge retention, but on the other hand, if it is easier to sharpen, you can give up a bit on the edge retention. yes yes, diamonds make sharpening many steels easier, but some steels are still easier than others. this may surprise some people, but I am not going to talk about how fucking bad S30V is. The follow up to S30V though, S35VN is a solid place to start. Good corrosion resistance, easy to sharpen, good toughness, decent edge retention. Good all around steel. Similar to Elmax. That being said, I have never really had any issue with M390. Holds a great edge. Little tougher to sharpen, not bad. I've never had any chip on me. Does it beat out S35VN? Maybe not for a general outdoor knife. Don't see too many outdoor knives in M390. And what about Magnacut? still too new to tell for me. On paper it seems great. Not enough real world experience yet. I gotta stick with S35VN/Elmax/XHP/CPM154 (they are all right about the same mix of qualities) for the stainless one. M390 has been good to me, but in theory it would be more likely to chip and for outdoor use, all the more likely. As for carbon steel, jeez. Seems like there has been an explosion of options in the last decade. M4 is the obvious answer landing right in the middle of the charts for a mix of toughness and edge retention. I did like it, but I did not have good luck with corrosion resistance. Sure, it is a tool steel, but M4 rusted for me just looking at it. 80crv2 has good toughness, 52100 has a bit better edge retention, but neither will be as good at edge retention as the high alloy tool steels. ApexUltra looks promising in the low alloy steels, but not enough exposure yet. So looking at the middle ground for toughness and edge retention, K390. I have not had a large sample set for K390, but what I have had has done well. There may be others here that differ in opinion, and while I welcome your thoughts, let's just get this out of the way now, you are wrong. Practically? Probably 3v and M390 because they're available. Or Magnacut. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:08:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI like their fries and sauce. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:08:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By conndcj: Excellent! My only quibble is that seersucker and bucks should also be left in the closet. But those usually aren't an issue up here except for yacht clubs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By conndcj: Originally Posted By MaxxII: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By conndcj: Certainly is. Now given the proclivity of some guys here being very set in their ways, I'm a bit worried mentioning this but G&T season ends on Labor Day. Hey, I don't make the rules, I just follow them. First pineapple, now I can't have gin. You can have pineapple. You can have gin. You should not put pineapple on pizza. Apparently you should not have gin and tonics (nor wear white) after labor day. Switch to vodka. Problem solved. Excellent! My only quibble is that seersucker and bucks should also be left in the closet. But those usually aren't an issue up here except for yacht clubs. I have travelled in yacht club circles in the past, and while comfortable, it is not my preferred environment. Yes, Seersuckers and bucks should be left in the closet. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:09:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: I do like the old avatar being back Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By sywagon: Sweet! I do like the old avatar being back |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:09:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: It's a looker. And I'm normally not a carbon fiber fan, but this is good. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218303/IMG_2197_jpeg-3307244.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218303/IMG_2196_jpeg-3307245.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By conndcj: Jeez. Beautiful Shiro. Kinda glad my new knife isn't here yet. That crushes it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218303/IMG_2197_jpeg-3307244.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218303/IMG_2196_jpeg-3307245.JPG |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:09:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: Day early. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218303/IMG_2193_jpeg-3307177.JPG Yusssssss |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:10:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By williedikker72: Sebenza hanging with a couple German friends... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48347/20240828_160410_jpg-3307186.JPG Classy. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:10:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By conndcj: Two just opened in CT and now Dave's Hot Chicken is coming as well. Popeye's rules but I'm willing to try. Popeye's is the best. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:11:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By conndcj: Here ya go. On the last screenshot, you just need the last six lines. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60239/1000002256-3307228.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60239/1000002257-3307229.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60239/1000002258-3307230.jpg Hrm. May need a kitchen knife in AU |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:11:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman:  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By MrSig239: Open it! Open it! Open it! Pics! Pics! Originally Posted By 80085: And??? Nice! I saw the one on R1 had sold. Did you see the tool for it is at R1 as well? https://recon1.com/products/shirogorov-knives-sinkevich-design-ambi-tool-titanium |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:13:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: pop eyes by my house, won't talk to us through the call box, they tell you to come around to the pick up window, then they ignore you at the pick up window until you leave. go inside? no. doors are locked. rough neighborhood. mcdonalds by our house, the cashiers jump over the counter and attack customers. true story. cops have been out there many times for the same thing, employees attacking customers. you want to go through the drive through at night? Don't bother. just one "manager" on duty, she won't work, and poor jimmy, he could get you something, but the "manager" is insisting that he clean up the kitchen so she can close early. I don't think we have been there in 15 years. this location still shows up regularly in police reports. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: I love me some Popeye's, but there's only one around here and the service is horrible (even by IL standards). We've never spent less than 20 minutes in the drive-thru, even when we're the only car in line. Last time we went there the entire menu outside didn't have anything in it. Luckily, we knew what we wanted. Had to go inside once to correct an order and I swear the place was on fire, and the cashier and a customer were about to throw hands. I was coming back from some training and stopped at one in a truck stop south of us about an hour. It was filled with smoke too. Service was fast though. pop eyes by my house, won't talk to us through the call box, they tell you to come around to the pick up window, then they ignore you at the pick up window until you leave. go inside? no. doors are locked. rough neighborhood. mcdonalds by our house, the cashiers jump over the counter and attack customers. true story. cops have been out there many times for the same thing, employees attacking customers. you want to go through the drive through at night? Don't bother. just one "manager" on duty, she won't work, and poor jimmy, he could get you something, but the "manager" is insisting that he clean up the kitchen so she can close early. I don't think we have been there in 15 years. this location still shows up regularly in police reports. That’s a clue, Counsellor. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:16:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DamascusKnifemaker: I haven't posted in a while. How about some different cutting implements.     Interesting. Did you make the handles? Details? That looks like a disposable razor head? |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:19:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: it's still subjective because it is not just about sciencey stuff, it is also about cool factor when you tell people about it. Hey man, cool new knife you got, what's the blade steel? Vanadis Wut? Isn't she like that old lady from the Price is Right or something? versus Hey man, cool new knife you got, what's the blade steel? ApexUltra Fuck yeah man, that's pretty cool Yeah, it's from Austria dude, where can I get me some?! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By sywagon: No, it really couldn't be more objective. Using the same scale and rating system and testing, Vanadis has higher toughness, almost double the edge retention, and 8x the corrosion resistance. it's still subjective because it is not just about sciencey stuff, it is also about cool factor when you tell people about it. Hey man, cool new knife you got, what's the blade steel? Vanadis Wut? Isn't she like that old lady from the Price is Right or something? versus Hey man, cool new knife you got, what's the blade steel? ApexUltra Fuck yeah man, that's pretty cool Yeah, it's from Austria dude, where can I get me some?!  |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:20:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: That particular Sinn is a favorite. It was the one I was actually shopping for when I got the Tudor. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: Originally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By sywagon: Sweet! I do like the old avatar being back I'm so glad I went the U50 instead of the U1. This thing wears great! I think I would be knocking a U1 on stuff with the additional couple mm height. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:21:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: I didn't mean to imply that it makes any sense. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: Originally Posted By MaxxII: Originally Posted By sywagon: I think the tonic part is the actual issue. Have a martini instead. How is the tonic the issue? He's down south, year-round mosquito's are a thing. Wouldn't want anyone to catch malaria just to abide by Northern Social Customs. Originally Posted By secretwheelman: I'm not much of a gin man either, so I won't have to swap. We're already on the vodka. Problem solved! Most of the people in this thread are pretty smart, and I count you among them. I just assumed there was some issue I wasn’t aware of. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:22:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Popeye's is the best. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By conndcj: Two just opened in CT and now Dave's Hot Chicken is coming as well. Popeye's rules but I'm willing to try. Popeye's is the best. We got a Dave's Hot Chicken last year. How do they rank? Haven't been there yet. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:22:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: Falkor's fever dream would've been my first pick. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By WIC: something new we are doing for our people. bread, pb, jam, salad greens, salad dressing. thought it would be nice in addition to the snackies we offer. only a few people have gone for it. we will give it a bit more time. also picked up some sample sunglasses to test before giving them to our people for an upcoming event. some wild names. office manager claimed the ones called "Flamingos on a Booze Cruise" already. https://i.imgur.com/N6ust7j.jpg A ginger’s soul for me. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:23:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: I will take whatever is left at the end, cause I look good in everything. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Falkor's fever dream would've been my first pick. I will take whatever is left at the end, cause I look good in everything. I didnt see a pair that covered your full face? |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:26:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: Interesting. Did you make the handles? Details? That looks like a disposable razor head? I turned the handles from 1075/nickel damascus that has been polished and heat blued. The rest is a Mach 3 kit purchased from Penn State a co. that makes pen making kits. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:29:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: Nice! I saw the one on R1 had sold. Did you see the tool for it is at R1 as well? https://recon1.com/products/shirogorov-knives-sinkevich-design-ambi-tool-titanium I have the REK bits for standard shiros, but haven't seen a cheaper version of that "clover leaf" bit. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 7:53:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: I didnt see a pair that covered your full face? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: Originally Posted By WIC: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Falkor's fever dream would've been my first pick. I will take whatever is left at the end, cause I look good in everything. I didnt see a pair that covered your full face? Should look like a nut sack. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:11:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: Most of the people in this thread are pretty smart, and I count you among them. I just assumed there was some issue I wasn't aware of. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: Originally Posted By sywagon: Originally Posted By MaxxII: Originally Posted By sywagon: I think the tonic part is the actual issue. Have a martini instead. How is the tonic the issue? He's down south, year-round mosquito's are a thing. Wouldn't want anyone to catch malaria just to abide by Northern Social Customs. Originally Posted By secretwheelman: I'm not much of a gin man either, so I won't have to swap. We're already on the vodka. Problem solved! Most of the people in this thread are pretty smart, and I count you among them. I just assumed there was some issue I wasn't aware of. I mean my train of thought ultimately was that a G&T being a summer drink has to do with the dryness of the tonic and the sour of the lime being really refreshing when it's hot, and whether it has gin or vodka doesn't really change that. I don't play by any of those rules though and will make a point of having one after labor day
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:15:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: Thanks, but yeah, mostly just shit posting. I mean my train of thought ultimately was that a G&T being a summer drink has to do with the dryness of the tonic and the bitter lime being really refreshing when it's hot, and whether it has gin or vodka doesn't really change that. I don't play by any of those rules though and will make a point of having one after labor day I'll probably have a mint Julep in November , but it is Texas and it'll likely be 90 deg on Thanksgiving.
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Posted: 8/28/2024 8:28:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By conndcj: Two just opened in CT and now Dave's Hot Chicken is coming as well. Popeye's rules but I'm willing to try. Caines isn’t comparable at all to Dave’s hot chicken. In fact Dave’s hot chicken is hella good and crushes Popeyes. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:16:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By secretwheelman: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218303/IMG_2195_jpeg-3307231.JPG Very nice!! Given your past comments and the box, that’s what I expected. Congrats! |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:20:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Reubjames: I'll probably have a mint Julep in November , but it is Texas and it'll likely be 90 deg on Thanksgiving.I thought the same, but last thanksgiving I was in Tomball and had to order a sweatshirt from Amazon because it was much colder than I expected. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:21:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: A ginger’s soul for me. I knew you would ask for a soul |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:22:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaxxII: Most of the people in this thread are pretty smart, and I count you among them. I just assumed there was some issue I wasn’t aware of. are you familiar with the saying those who can, do, those who can't, teach |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:22:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By williedikker72: I'm so glad I went the U50 instead of the U1. This thing wears great! I think I would be knocking a U1 on stuff with the additional couple mm height. chicks go Gaga for this one though |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:23:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:27:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sywagon: You're the one that picked 3V first (not a carbon steel...). Now you're changing the question again (must be a lawyer tactic) I have O1, 1095 & Blue Super BTW. https://i.imgur.com/NtZv0XD.jpg gotta keep up son scandi grind, blech |
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