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Posted: 1/4/2018 2:49:16 AM EDT
From what I've been told, the President can authorize a nuclear strike, but he cannot order a strike. Is this right?
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Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:16:48 AM EDT
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I wonder if a president asked," does that thing really work?" Let me pick up the hand set and say hello. You know a president has joked about it. "Let me try to talk to someone."
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:21:12 AM EDT
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FPNI.

It's a big button. Bigger than anyone else's.

But he can handle it.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:22:23 AM EDT
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I'm not an expert on the subject, but as I understand it, POTUS certainly can order a nuclear strike. When he issues the order, all that's left to be done is to confirm that said order is authentic. He's the commander-in-chief for a reason, and that reason is not to offer suggestions.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:23:12 AM EDT
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Staples Easy Button - That was easy
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:23:35 AM EDT
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Don't be taken in so easily by a contrived graphic.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:28:11 AM EDT
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He's the guy we want to push it when it needs to be done.  O, HRC, GWB, BC, etc, I wouldn't expect much from in that department
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I wouldn't have a problem with "hitting the button" on certain areas. 925 is a bit too much.

But even like four tactical nukes would be bad.

Retaliation is my only concern.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:30:10 AM EDT
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It would be awesome if Trump gave an entirely unrelated Oval Office address to the nation and sitting there on the desk was a comedy red button,but he never mentions North Korea or nukes a single time.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:30:51 AM EDT
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I'm sure there are regular com tests. God I would hope so.
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There are.

You guys should stop thinking of some President sitting in the Oval with a Hollywood phone.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:38:27 AM EDT
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There are.

You guys should stop thinking of some President sitting in the Oval with a Hollywood phone.
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I'm sure there are regular com tests. God I would hope so.
There are.

You guys should stop thinking of some President sitting in the Oval with a Hollywood phone.
We can dream, right? "why not me?"

I'm glad someone is finally there when an American First attitude, and he's delivering.

ETA: We were the first, and only, nation to deliver not one but two nuclear weapons. In order to end (in my opinion) the second greatest conflict the world had ever seen. Just because everyone else has nukes doesn't mean our threat isn't there. I'm glad we're standing up for ourselves again.

(After saving the modern world twice)
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:39:33 AM EDT
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I think clintons running back lost him between a McDonalds run or something like that.
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Have 20 of them on his desk.  Sometime in the middle of speech he knocks over a glass of water narrowly missing a button, his eyes get wide, he semi smiles and continues with his speech.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:57:03 AM EDT
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Skaifu is back on the SKYKANG mic tonight.

Just sayin'.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 4:07:03 AM EDT
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There are.

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Oh I don't. As fun as it is to imagine a big red button on the Resolute Desk I know that not to be the case as well.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 4:13:27 AM EDT
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Little Known Fact:

When Obama was in office, Biden's case just held an actual football. Nerf, I believe.

They figured he wouldn't know any better.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 4:18:50 AM EDT
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Little Known Fact:

When Obama was in office, Biden's case just held an actual football. Nerf, I believe.

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Biden is trying to figure if the nuke is in the football or if one targets the spot the football landed
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Link Posted: 1/4/2018 4:34:20 AM EDT
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Biden is trying to figure if the nuke is in the football or if one targets the spot the football landed
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When Obama was in office, Biden's case just held an actual football. Nerf, I believe.

They figured he wouldn't know any better.
Biden is trying to figure if the nuke is in the football or if one targets the spot the football landed
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Link Posted: 1/4/2018 4:34:21 AM EDT
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From what I've been told, the President can authorize a nuclear strike, but he cannot order a strike. Is this right?
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The President has unilateral authority to use nuclear weapons at any time, for any reason. SECDEF must authorize the strike under the two man rule, but he has no veto power, the decision is the President's alone. If SECDEF refuses, he would be removed and someone else appointed to fill the role.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 4:49:06 AM EDT
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They keep making a big deal about how it must be a "legal" order and how the military would refuse to carry out an "illegal" order from the President, as if it would have to be run through the Supreme Court or something.

Yeah, I'd imagine if the President said "C'mon boys, let's nuke Nashville today." there would be some discussion, but other than that...
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 4:50:03 AM EDT
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Of course the Left Media has made  "How unstable he is.  We can't trust nuclear destruction with THAT MAN with his finger on the button" it's cry...

Then trotting out some retired shill to say that the "Military would stop Trump" if he illegally ordered them to blow up the world...

However the Media had no issues with a known sexual predator like Bill Clinton for his 8 years...  (except the Red Republican Meanies just wouldn't leave draft dodging socialists Billy Boy & Hillary alone with that ol' Special Prosecutor thing and indictment for impeachment)  But Saint Bill Clinton boldly stood up and wagged his finger at us all on National TV and looked millions of suckers straight in the eye and said "I did not have sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinski..."  and Hillary Stood By Her Man...  Because otherwise she wasn't going to get her turn at the Presidency...    and look how THAT turned out...  

BIGGER_HAMMER  
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 4:53:04 AM EDT
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Hillary Stood By Her Man...  Because otherwise she wasn't going to get her turn at the Presidency...    and look how THAT turned out...  

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The only button that Hillary will have her finger on is Huma's.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 4:58:09 AM EDT
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I'm sure there are regular com tests. God I would hope so.
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I wonder if a president asked," does that thing really work?" Let me pick up the hand set and say hello. You know a president has joked about it. "Let me try to talk to someone."
I'm sure there are regular com tests. God I would hope so.
There's a story, possibly apocryphal that Jimmy Carter when he was being briefed about Marine one and emergency evacuation, said okay, tell them to pick me up right now. And there was an immediate complete c**********.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 9:51:00 AM EDT
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@limaxray described the nuclear order process here a couple months ago.  Said something like it was the shortest military Chain of Command in the world.

Rather than me trying to repeat it from memory, let's see if we can get him to come in here and describe it.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 9:54:43 AM EDT
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The military would love to practice it with the actual president.  The process is exercised almost daily.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 10:06:40 AM EDT
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When Obama was in office, Biden's case just held an actual football. Nerf, I believe.

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Link Posted: 1/4/2018 10:08:11 AM EDT
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Damn the thing weighs 20 kg.  A lot of weight in a small briefcase.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 10:21:17 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/4/2018 10:35:06 AM EDT
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The military would love to practice it with the actual president. The process is exercised almost daily.
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I wonder if a president asked," does that thing really work?" Let me pick up the hand set and say hello. You know a president has joked about it. "Let me try to talk to someone."
The military would love to practice it with the actual president. The process is exercised almost daily.
Actually, it isn't.  Regularly though.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 10:37:58 AM EDT
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You guys should stop blindly trusting stories contrived by the press to sell newspapapers.
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Actually, it isn't.  Regularly though.
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I wonder if a president asked," does that thing really work?" Let me pick up the hand set and say hello. You know a president has joked about it. "Let me try to talk to someone."
The military would love to practice it with the actual president. The process is exercised almost daily.
Actually, it isn't.  Regularly though.
Okay.  
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 10:43:40 AM EDT
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Of course the Left Media has made  "How unstable he is.  We can't trust nuclear destruction with THAT MAN with his finger on the button" it's cry...

Then trotting out some retired shill to say that the "Military would stop Trump" if he illegally ordered them to blow up the world...
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BTW, the media said the exact same thing about Reagan in 1980 and '81.
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I think clintons running back lost him between a McDonalds run or something like that.
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Cannot remember his name but the "football guy" for Clinton wrote a book. I do believe he said Clinton forgot his launch card in a pocket and let it be sent to the dry cleaners.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 10:46:01 AM EDT
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The Missiles Are Flying - The Dead Zone (9/10) Movie CLIP (1983) HD
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 10:55:27 AM EDT
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You guys should stop blindly trusting stories contrived by the press to sell newspapapers.
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You guys should stop blindly trusting stories contrived by the press to sell newspapapers.
Okay. Give me a step by step of how it works and some reason to believe you are "in the know" more than the guy consulted for that article.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 11:12:58 AM EDT
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In before the opsec crowd....and the “we shouldn’t be discussing this on a public forum” crowd.

...and the “those that know aren’t saying” crowd.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 11:16:12 AM EDT
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we really do need to modernize our warheads. and since the Soviet Union no longer exists, we should go back to full MIRV delivery systems.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 11:58:13 AM EDT
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The left would flip out!

I hope he does it!
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 3:48:30 PM EDT
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From the other end: "Smolny."
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 11:46:14 PM EDT
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I'm not an expert on the subject, but as I understand it, POTUS certainly can order a nuclear strike. When he issues the order, all that's left to be done is to confirm that said order is authentic. He's the commander-in-chief for a reason, and that reason is not to offer suggestions.
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Long before that order is sent/authenticated, the President has conferred with his military and civilian staff to ensure the order he sends is the one he wants to send.  Suggestions are made during that time.  That's what they're there for.
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I wouldn't have a problem with "hitting the button" on certain areas. 925 is a bit too much.

But even like four tactical nukes would be bad.

Retaliation is my only concern.
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925?  Nah....

By treaty we have up to 1550 operationally deployed strategic nuclear weapons ready to go.  Those are defined as weapons either A) in the igloos at bomber bases, B) mated to intercontinental ballistic missiles, or C) mated to submarine launched ballistic missiles.

So, up that by 50%.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 11:53:24 PM EDT
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@limaxray described the nuclear order process here a couple months ago.  Said something like it was the shortest military Chain of Command in the world.

Rather than me trying to repeat it from memory, let's see if we can get him to come in here and describe it.
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POTUS --> Command Director of the National Military Command Center --> Command Director of the Strategic Command Command Center --> 1 and 2Lts sitting on alert in the missile field.  Or CPT/MAJ sitting in the left seat of the jet.  Or LCDR as God Emperor/Supreme Dictator of his boomer.

Name another military field where the distance between a 2Lt and the President is four people.
Link Posted: 1/4/2018 11:56:56 PM EDT
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Just to be clear, is that the same briefcase the FHRC told the world has an 87 minute response time?
Link Posted: 1/5/2018 11:45:43 AM EDT
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POTUS --> Command Director of the National Military Command Center --> Command Director of the Strategic Command Command Center --> 1 and 2Lts sitting on alert in the missile field.  Or CPT/MAJ sitting in the left seat of the jet.  Or LCDR as God Emperor/Supreme Dictator of his boomer.

Name another military field where the distance between a 2Lt and the President is four people.
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@limaxray described the nuclear order process here a couple months ago.  Said something like it was the shortest military Chain of Command in the world.

Rather than me trying to repeat it from memory, let's see if we can get him to come in here and describe it.
POTUS --> Command Director of the National Military Command Center --> Command Director of the Strategic Command Command Center --> 1 and 2Lts sitting on alert in the missile field.  Or CPT/MAJ sitting in the left seat of the jet.  Or LCDR as God Emperor/Supreme Dictator of his boomer.

Name another military field where the distance between a 2Lt and the President is four people.
I rest my case.  
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POTUS --> Command Director of the National Military Command Center --> Command Director of the Strategic Command Command Center --> 1 and 2Lts sitting on alert in the missile field.  Or CPT/MAJ sitting in the left seat of the jet.  Or LCDR as God Emperor/Supreme Dictator of his boomer.

Name another military field where the distance between a 2Lt and the President is four people.
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@limaxray described the nuclear order process here a couple months ago.  Said something like it was the shortest military Chain of Command in the world.

Rather than me trying to repeat it from memory, let's see if we can get him to come in here and describe it.
POTUS --> Command Director of the National Military Command Center --> Command Director of the Strategic Command Command Center --> 1 and 2Lts sitting on alert in the missile field.  Or CPT/MAJ sitting in the left seat of the jet.  Or LCDR as God Emperor/Supreme Dictator of his boomer.

Name another military field where the distance between a 2Lt and the President is four people.
What authority does the President have over the aircraft commander on AF1?  Because if he does then it's two steps from the President to the staff sergeant flight attendant.  
Link Posted: 1/5/2018 1:31:43 PM EDT
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Waiting for Steve Bannon to chime in here, and claim that he authorizes the nuke strikes.
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