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Posted: 7/13/2024 2:29:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: @74novaman 2 ounce difference with the Sig being slightly heavier. That said, it’s 24 more rounds, a spare mag, a light and an optic. I know which I would prefer in my hands at either bad breath distance, in a hotel room, or out to 100+ yards. Carried it IWB a bit and honestly less terrible than I thought. This may become my new truck gun after being vetted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7375_jpeg-3264518.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7374_jpeg-3264519.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7372_jpeg-3264520.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7370_jpeg-3264521.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7371_jpeg-3264522.JPG Had a guy at league with one of these the other day. Seems like it would be fun. He pushed a button and the stock flung out on its own. |
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Posted: 7/13/2024 2:39:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Had a guy at league with one of these the other day. Seems like it would be fun. He pushed a button and the stock flung out on its own. Yeah the Glock and Sig version have springs on the back to push it straight out. This has a spring and bungee cord and snaps it out sideways. Feels more secure shouldered but if you’re not paying attention you WILL slap yourself in the face with it at least once. |
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Posted: 7/13/2024 8:18:12 PM EST
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So that medium spicy we were talking about?
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Posted: 7/13/2024 8:31:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: So that medium spicy we were talking about? Yeah . |
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Posted: 7/13/2024 8:37:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: So that medium spicy we were talking about? Yeah…. My B&T chassis isn't here yet. 
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Posted: 7/13/2024 8:44:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: So that medium spicy we were talking about? Yeah…. Yeah |
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Posted: 7/13/2024 8:44:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: So that medium spicy we were talking about? Yeah…. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: So that medium spicy we were talking about? Yeah…. Originally Posted By Alacran: Please keep bumping this thread to the 2024 election. You have no idea how important this will become. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/media/2024/05/19/14597437/b-t-usw-g17-conversion-kit-for-the-glock-17-19.jpg?size=720x845&nocrop=1 Today was a just reminder that the country you wake up in could be very different from the one you go to sleep in that night. |
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Posted: 7/13/2024 8:49:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: Today was a just reminder that the country you wake up in could be very different from the one you go to sleep in that night. So very true |
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Posted: 7/13/2024 8:52:39 PM EST
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A not so peaceful election year
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Posted: 7/13/2024 8:56:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JG_Wentworth: A not so peaceful election year Yeah, no shit. Thread title was mocking CNNs “fiery, but mostly peaceful” headlines during the summer of floyd. |
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Posted: 7/13/2024 8:56:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: So that medium spicy we were talking about? Yeah…. Close to 5 million Scoville now |
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Posted: 7/13/2024 9:05:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: Yeah the Glock and Sig version have springs on the back to push it straight out. This has a spring and bungee cord and snaps it out sideways. Feels more secure shouldered but if you’re not paying attention you WILL slap yourself in the face with it at least once. This one was hinged and swung in an arc as well. |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 8:48:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Yeah, no shit. Thread title was mocking CNNs "fiery, but mostly peaceful" headlines during the summer of floyd. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Originally Posted By JG_Wentworth: A not so peaceful election year Yeah, no shit. Thread title was mocking CNNs "fiery, but mostly peaceful" headlines during the summer of floyd. |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 9:09:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFletch: CNN told me Trump just fell. He's just old and clumsy. We dont hate the media enough. |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 9:19:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-180: So very true Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR-180: Originally Posted By Alacran: Today was a just reminder that the country you wake up in could be very different from the one you go to sleep in that night. So very true Normally it takes people until middle age to realize that they didn’t grow up in the country they thought they did. Many people are having that reality held in front of their face over the last months. |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 9:24:49 AM EST
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Posted: 7/14/2024 9:31:23 AM EST
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Posted: 7/14/2024 9:36:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Normally it takes people until middle age to realize that they didn’t grow up in the country they thought they did. Many people are having that reality held in front of their face over the last months. These words literally came out of my mouth yesterday. The world I grew up in is dead. I mourne for my kids missing out but hoping we can make it better. That said I just figured out the Sig 365 raider will fit in a small Fanny pack, so I’ll be wearing that around town this summer :-/ |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 9:50:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BBOHACH: I have a SP5 SBR that is great for the wife then just got this setup. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/314960/IMG_4051_jpeg-3266282.JPG Does yours actually run? I'm on the waitlist still, but I am very hesitant to pull the trigger given all of the extremely negative reliability reviews. |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 10:15:04 AM EST
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Been out of town since it showed up. Plan to go this week. Seems like the majority have about 150-200 rounds then run well. I will see but I plan to run a bunch through it before trusting it.
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Posted: 7/14/2024 10:50:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: @DFARM Market's huge right now, amigo. TSA allowance for screwdrivers is 7" I believe. But don't you go charging $400 for one now ya hear? lol  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPNJ5n13AR8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFLoy569T40$399.95 it is! Lol |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 5:32:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Normally it takes people until middle age to realize that they didn’t grow up in the country they thought they did. Many people are having that reality held in front of their face over the last months. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Originally Posted By AR-180: Originally Posted By Alacran: Today was a just reminder that the country you wake up in could be very different from the one you go to sleep in that night. So very true Normally it takes people until middle age to realize that they didn’t grow up in the country they thought they did. Many people are having that reality held in front of their face over the last months. You misspelled years as ‘months’ Signed, a 41yo from the midwest that spent time in the 3rd world for freedom |
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Posted: 7/14/2024 10:59:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lothbrok: Does yours actually run? I'm on the waitlist still, but I am very hesitant to pull the trigger given all of the extremely negative reliability reviews. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lothbrok: Originally Posted By BBOHACH: I have a SP5 SBR that is great for the wife then just got this setup. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/314960/IMG_4051_jpeg-3266282.JPG Does yours actually run? I'm on the waitlist still, but I am very hesitant to pull the trigger given all of the extremely negative reliability reviews. He gives a report in the T7 thread. TLDR, not really with Fiocchi. ETA: scratch that. It was another user who gave the report. |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 9:23:57 AM EST
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So yesterday I bought a SCAR 15P. 7.5" bbl 5.56 with a picatinny rail where the stock/brace would go. It was more compelling to me than the rattler. It was on sale for $2999 at the LGS and FN has a $500 rebate on top of that, making it cheaper. I have ordered a Jmac Customs folding arm bar and a tailhook for it. I'm going to an an EOtech and a Surefire scout light. It will easily fit in a standard backpack or messenger bag. I already have an SP5K, but I wanted something in a rifle caliber.
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Posted: 7/17/2024 2:41:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: So yesterday I bought a SCAR 15P. 7.5" bbl 5.56 with a picatinny rail where the stock/brace would go. It was more compelling to me than the rattler. It was on sale for $2999 at the LGS and FN has a $500 rebate on top of that, making it cheaper. I have ordered a Jmac Customs folding arm bar and a tailhook for it. I'm going to an an EOtech and a Surefire scout light. It will easily fit in a standard backpack or messenger bag. I already have an SP5K, but I wanted something in a rifle caliber. https://fnamerica.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/SCAR-15P_BLK_side_left_Std-600x400.png Nice. It'd be cooler in .300 BLK with that barrel length...  but it's still nice, just crazy loud.Rifle caliber or go home for PDW. You should be getting 2400ish fps with XM193 out of that barrel. Way past the 2200fps elastic cavity limit and blowing right thought soft body armor. If you're not defeating level II and IIIA body armor, what's the point? I love my MPX, SP5's and etc... but the rifle caliber pistol rides shotgun. XM193 Velocity Chrono 7.5" video YOUTUBE |
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Posted: 7/17/2024 3:22:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rDigital: Nice. It'd be cooler in .300 BLK with that barrel length... but it's still nice, just crazy loud.Rifle caliber or go home for PDW. You should be getting 2400ish fps with XM193 out of that barrel. Way past the 2200fps elastic cavity limit and blowing right thought soft body armor. If you're not defeating level II and IIIA body armor, what's the point? I love my MPX, SP5's and etc... but the rifle caliber pistol rides shotgun. XM193 Velocity Chrono 7.5" video YOUTUBE Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rDigital: Originally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: So yesterday I bought a SCAR 15P. 7.5" bbl 5.56 with a picatinny rail where the stock/brace would go. It was more compelling to me than the rattler. It was on sale for $2999 at the LGS and FN has a $500 rebate on top of that, making it cheaper. I have ordered a Jmac Customs folding arm bar and a tailhook for it. I'm going to an an EOtech and a Surefire scout light. It will easily fit in a standard backpack or messenger bag. I already have an SP5K, but I wanted something in a rifle caliber. https://fnamerica.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/SCAR-15P_BLK_side_left_Std-600x400.png Nice. It'd be cooler in .300 BLK with that barrel length... but it's still nice, just crazy loud.Rifle caliber or go home for PDW. You should be getting 2400ish fps with XM193 out of that barrel. Way past the 2200fps elastic cavity limit and blowing right thought soft body armor. If you're not defeating level II and IIIA body armor, what's the point? I love my MPX, SP5's and etc... but the rifle caliber pistol rides shotgun. XM193 Velocity Chrono 7.5" video YOUTUBE Kinda where I’m at. If the barrel is less than 10.3” might as well go 300BO to burn 1/2 the powder and maybe save the last couple ear follicles I have if I need to clack it off sans can and/or ear pro
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Posted: 7/17/2024 10:22:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: So yesterday I bought a SCAR 15P. 7.5" bbl 5.56 with a picatinny rail where the stock/brace would go. It was more compelling to me than the rattler. It was on sale for $2999 at the LGS and FN has a $500 rebate on top of that, making it cheaper. I have ordered a Jmac Customs folding arm bar and a tailhook for it. I'm going to an an EOtech and a Surefire scout light. It will easily fit in a standard backpack or messenger bag. I already have an SP5K, but I wanted something in a rifle caliber. https://fnamerica.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/SCAR-15P_BLK_side_left_Std-600x400.png I have a 7.5" ar upper that I basically never shot because it was so concussive. A " blast can" thing on a muzzle brake made a huge difference. I'd look into one if you aren't using a silencer. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 9:03:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DFARM: I have a 7.5" ar upper that I basically never shot because it was so concussive. A " blast can" thing on a muzzle brake made a huge difference. I'd look into one if you aren't using a silencer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DFARM: Originally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: So yesterday I bought a SCAR 15P. 7.5" bbl 5.56 with a picatinny rail where the stock/brace would go. It was more compelling to me than the rattler. It was on sale for $2999 at the LGS and FN has a $500 rebate on top of that, making it cheaper. I have ordered a Jmac Customs folding arm bar and a tailhook for it. I'm going to an an EOtech and a Surefire scout light. It will easily fit in a standard backpack or messenger bag. I already have an SP5K, but I wanted something in a rifle caliber. https://fnamerica.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/SCAR-15P_BLK_side_left_Std-600x400.png I have a 7.5" ar upper that I basically never shot because it was so concussive. A " blast can" thing on a muzzle brake made a huge difference. I'd look into one if you aren't using a silencer. I'll consider it. I have several cans that will work, and I might also consider a new one for it. That said, my use case is for a short gun that I can pull out of a bag and go to work with in an emergency. Having a can attached already or stopping to install one doesn't really fit into that scenario. I may change my tune after I shoot it. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 10:12:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: I'll consider it. I have several cans that will work, and I might also consider a new one for it. That said, my use case is for a short gun that I can pull out of a bag and go to work with in an emergency. Having a can attached already or stopping to install one doesn't really fit into that scenario. I may change my tune after I shoot it. If it has a silencer mount on it already, the blast shield won't add any length. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 10:17:20 AM EST
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If the 5.56 scar15p was $2k id buy one and a 556rc3 for it but otherwise waiting on the 300blk scar
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Posted: 7/18/2024 10:19:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warspite: I'll play. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/17143/IMG_2888_jpeg-3266280.JPG Also have an SP5k I intend to SBR. I so want a DOE gun, but the mags aren't readily available at the shops I frequent outside of MD. Kharn |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 12:05:25 PM EST
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Will an omega 9k fit on the 365 flux?
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Posted: 7/18/2024 12:20:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: I'll consider it. I have several cans that will work, and I might also consider a new one for it. That said, my use case is for a short gun that I can pull out of a bag and go to work with in an emergency. Having a can attached already or stopping to install one doesn't really fit into that scenario. I may change my tune after I shoot it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: Originally Posted By DFARM: Originally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: So yesterday I bought a SCAR 15P. 7.5" bbl 5.56 with a picatinny rail where the stock/brace would go. It was more compelling to me than the rattler. It was on sale for $2999 at the LGS and FN has a $500 rebate on top of that, making it cheaper. I have ordered a Jmac Customs folding arm bar and a tailhook for it. I'm going to an an EOtech and a Surefire scout light. It will easily fit in a standard backpack or messenger bag. I already have an SP5K, but I wanted something in a rifle caliber. https://fnamerica.wpenginepowered.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/SCAR-15P_BLK_side_left_Std-600x400.png I have a 7.5" ar upper that I basically never shot because it was so concussive. A " blast can" thing on a muzzle brake made a huge difference. I'd look into one if you aren't using a silencer. I'll consider it. I have several cans that will work, and I might also consider a new one for it. That said, my use case is for a short gun that I can pull out of a bag and go to work with in an emergency. Having a can attached already or stopping to install one doesn't really fit into that scenario. I may change my tune after I shoot it.  |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 12:29:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FloridaMan11b: If the 5.56 scar15p was $2k id buy one and a 556rc3 for it but otherwise waiting on the 300blk scar That config in 300blk would be great. It also looks to be lighter than the Rattler. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 12:43:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: That config in 300blk would be great. It also looks to be lighter than the Rattler. Yeah, that would be an immediate buy. Especially if it was 1:5 twist. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 12:49:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DFARM: If it has a silencer mount on it already, the blast shield won't add any length. My Rattler with a can fits nicely into a 19L Northface backpack, just gotta use a short can. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 1:26:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Yeah, no shit. Thread title was mocking CNNs "fiery, but mostly peaceful" headlines during the summer of floyd. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Originally Posted By JG_Wentworth: A not so peaceful election year Yeah, no shit. Thread title was mocking CNNs "fiery, but mostly peaceful" headlines during the summer of floyd. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 1:42:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rDigital: Yeah, that would be an immediate buy. Especially if it was 1:5 twist. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rDigital: Originally Posted By Alacran: That config in 300blk would be great. It also looks to be lighter than the Rattler. Yeah, that would be an immediate buy. Especially if it was 1:5 twist. The FA version of the SCAR 15P, called the SCAR - SC, is available in 300 Blackout. Interestingly, those guns appear to be marked multi caliber. I don't know if FN will sell you a 300 BO barrel, but this guy is willing to make you one to order: Link ETA: I checked when I got home, and the 15P is marked multi as well. If FN drops a 300 BO barrel, that would be interesting. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 3:54:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billth777: Will an omega 9k fit on the 365 flux? @billth777 get me the diameter of that can and I can check. Or if you’re in Marietta/ATL area I can show you in person. |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 4:37:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: @billth777 get me the diameter of that can and I can check. Or if you’re in Marietta/ATL area I can show you in person. Per SciCo “Diameter: 1.48” @steviesterno16 |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 4:40:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billth777: Per SciCo “Diameter: 1.48” @steviesterno16 @billth777 should be fine. My rev 45 is 1.4 and should be more than fine. I haven’t shot with it on yet but sized it all up |
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Posted: 7/18/2024 4:57:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: @billth777 should be fine. My rev 45 is 1.4 and should be more than fine. I haven’t shot with it on yet but sized it all up Im sitting on the waiting list just waiting..... pumped. |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 9:27:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeDeltaFoxtrot: The FA version of the SCAR 15P, called the SCAR - SC, is available in 300 Blackout. Interestingly, those guns appear to be marked multi caliber. I don't know if FN will sell you a 300 BO barrel, but this guy is willing to make you one to order: Link ETA: I checked when I got home, and the 15P is marked multi as well. If FN drops a 300 BO barrel, that would be interesting. Good looking out, thanks. |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 10:15:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: I so want a DOE gun, but the mags aren't readily available at the shops I frequent outside of MD. Kharn Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: Originally Posted By Warspite: I'll play. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/17143/IMG_2888_jpeg-3266280.JPG Also have an SP5k I intend to SBR. I so want a DOE gun, but the mags aren't readily available at the shops I frequent outside of MD. Kharn If your shop can get Uzi mags it's a simple mod/cut to make them work; you can download the template for the mag catch cut (pretty sure I downloaded it from the pistol caliber forum in the AR section). Sometimes the feed lips need some tweaking but the two I have didn't. It's probably cheaper and easier in the long run just to have a friend or family member in a free state order some new mags for you. Machinist drawing: https://hahn-precision.com/uzi-magazine-conversion/ |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 10:59:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sandboxmedic: If your shop can get Uzi mags it's a simple mod/cut to make them work; you can download the template for the mag catch cut (pretty sure I downloaded it from the pistol caliber forum in the AR section). Sometimes the feed lips need some tweaking but the two I have didn't. It's probably cheaper and easier in the long run just to have a friend or family member in a free state order some new mags for you. Machinist drawing: https://hahn-precision.com/uzi-magazine-conversion/ Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sandboxmedic: Originally Posted By Kharn: Originally Posted By Warspite: I'll play. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/17143/IMG_2888_jpeg-3266280.JPG Also have an SP5k I intend to SBR. I so want a DOE gun, but the mags aren't readily available at the shops I frequent outside of MD. Kharn If your shop can get Uzi mags it's a simple mod/cut to make them work; you can download the template for the mag catch cut (pretty sure I downloaded it from the pistol caliber forum in the AR section). Sometimes the feed lips need some tweaking but the two I have didn't. It's probably cheaper and easier in the long run just to have a friend or family member in a free state order some new mags for you. Machinist drawing: https://hahn-precision.com/uzi-magazine-conversion/ Some the rear needs relieved a touch as well but ime they work the best. |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 11:03:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Warspite: I'll play. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/17143/IMG_2888_jpeg-3266280.JPG Also have an SP5k I intend to SBR. Waiting on PSA to bring theirs out |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 11:04:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: I so want a DOE gun, but the mags aren't readily available at the shops I frequent outside of MD. Kharn Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kharn: Originally Posted By Warspite: I'll play. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/17143/IMG_2888_jpeg-3266280.JPG Also have an SP5k I intend to SBR. I so want a DOE gun, but the mags aren't readily available at the shops I frequent outside of MD. Kharn There are ways..... |
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Posted: 7/19/2024 7:39:26 PM EST
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Flux Defense just did a restock on the Raider X (for the 320) in the last hour. I ordered a black one. Now I need to buy the other parts to set it up. Is it cheapest to just buy a full size 320 and then an OEM threaded barrel?
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Posted: 7/19/2024 7:54:25 PM EST
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I ordered a Recover Tactical brace and will be attaching it to a Glock 35 soon.
I can’t wait to take it to the range with the 357SIG barrel. Nobody makes a PDW in that caliber, so this will have to do. |
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Posted: 7/20/2024 5:47:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JaredGrey: I ordered a Recover Tactical brace and will be attaching it to a Glock 35 soon. I can’t wait to take it to the range with the 357SIG barrel. Nobody makes a PDW in that caliber, so this will have to do. There was somebody on here who’s not anymore, I want to say GunWriter? Who made a flux Glock long barrel in 357 Sig. He wa getting great ballistics and accuracy at distance but was banned or quit hanging out with us. I’m hopefully getting some bonus money next month and will build out my Sig 365 to make it a full time pdw. Not sure if I should get a fuse (like $700) or my buddys macro ($600). Fuse would come with 21 round mags but the macro has the nice magwell, would put that lower on my X for cold weather carry. |
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