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Posted: 7/5/2024 6:51:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: Rbass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman:  My man. People poo poo pistol caliber small pdw type guns but the other thing I keep coming back to is another group that benefits the most is your family members who dont train, dont compete and cannot do “90%” with a concealed carry pistol. My wife is an asset with a pistol caliber pdw. She isnt with a pistol. Ymmv. I don’t think your point can be stressed enough, especially the bolded part. How many of us have brought new shooters out, and let them try different guns, and seeing them have almost instant success wit a PCC? Hits matter. Misses get you killed. How many in our households could hit anything in a panic state with a handgun? Their chances for hits go way up with a PCC, and that’s really all that matters. My wife sucks with pistols, but is a dead eye with her CX4. I just wish I could get her to want to practice more! |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 6:57:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rbass: I don’t think your point can be stressed enough, especially the bolded part. How many of us have brought new shooters out, and let them try different guns, and seeing them have almost instant success wit a PCC? Hits matter. Misses get you killed. How many in our households could hit anything in a panic state with a handgun? Their chances for hits go way up with a PCC, and that’s really all that matters. My wife sucks with pistols, but is a dead eye with her CX4. I just wish I could get her to want to practice more! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rbass: Originally Posted By 74novaman: My man. People poo poo pistol caliber small pdw type guns but the other thing I keep coming back to is another group that benefits the most is your family members who dont train, dont compete and cannot do “90%” with a concealed carry pistol. My wife is an asset with a pistol caliber pdw. She isnt with a pistol. Ymmv. I don’t think your point can be stressed enough, especially the bolded part. How many of us have brought new shooters out, and let them try different guns, and seeing them have almost instant success wit a PCC? Hits matter. Misses get you killed. How many in our households could hit anything in a panic state with a handgun? Their chances for hits go way up with a PCC, and that’s really all that matters. My wife sucks with pistols, but is a dead eye with her CX4. I just wish I could get her to want to practice more! Completely agree. My wife is very confident and competent with her Ruger LC Carbine 5.7. |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 1:04:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: ROCK6]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: Interesting to see tactical screwdrivers and tactical awls hitting the market in recent years. I’ve even got what’s basically a tactical chisel. For the next tactical tool craze, just take a look inside your kitchen drawers or toolbox.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: Interesting to see tactical screwdrivers and tactical awls hitting the market in recent years. I’ve even got what’s basically a tactical chisel. For the next tactical tool craze, just take a look inside your kitchen drawers or toolbox. @Alacran, yeah, I'm a little guilty  To be honest and to save everyone else interested a lot of money, I found a simple Klein demolition screwdriver for about $15 works remarkably well for such an application. I did cut the thicker rubber outer handle and then wrapped the handle in Monkey Tape for the "tactical" look  Klein Demolition Screwdriver Originally Posted By Rbass: I don’t think your point can be stressed enough, especially the bolded part. How many of us have brought new shooters out, and let them try different guns, and seeing them have almost instant success wit a PCC? Hits matter. Misses get you killed. How many in our households could hit anything in a panic state with a handgun? Their chances for hits go way up with a PCC, and that’s really all that matters. My wife sucks with pistols, but is a dead eye with her CX4. I just wish I could get her to want to practice more! This, in spades and one of my primary reasons for PDWs. Next weekend I'll have a co-worker who's finally getting to shoot his CZ Scorpion pistol and his wife, and two daughters will come as well. I'll bet dollars to donuts they shoot any number of braced pistols" vastly better than any handgun if I run them through a couple simple drills. ROCK6 |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 2:23:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: Alacran]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ROCK6: @Alacran, yeah, I'm a little guilty https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20240707_135105.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20240707_135105.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds To be honest and to save everyone else interested a lot of money, I found a simple Klein demolition screwdriver for about $15 works remarkably well for such an application. I did cut the thicker rubber outer handle and then wrapped the handle in Monkey Tape for the "tactical" look Klein Demolition Screwdriver ROCK6 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ROCK6: Originally Posted By Alacran: Interesting to see tactical screwdrivers and tactical awls hitting the market in recent years. I’ve even got what’s basically a tactical chisel. For the next tactical tool craze, just take a look inside your kitchen drawers or toolbox. @Alacran, yeah, I'm a little guilty https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20240707_135105.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20240707_135105.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds To be honest and to save everyone else interested a lot of money, I found a simple Klein demolition screwdriver for about $15 works remarkably well for such an application. I did cut the thicker rubber outer handle and then wrapped the handle in Monkey Tape for the "tactical" look Klein Demolition Screwdriver ROCK6 @ROCK6 Every time you post pictures of your items, my eyes get big as saucers and my wallet runs to hide under the bed. The RMJ Stabby Guy has become my weak-side EDC now. It kind of reminds me of the spike end of the Shrike/Kestrel tomahawks. Almost like a carrying a mini tomahawk that fits the palm of your hand…almost. I do love Klein Tools. They’ve replaced Craftsman as my go-to tools but I just use them for their intended purpose. I almost bought one of those combat flatheads off of Dom Rosco’s website but I actually think I already had something better, which is a vintage all-steel Cresent Tool Company screwdriver that converts to a T-handle. They sometimes can be found on etsy & ebay and are usually cheaper than the tactical ones, too. Of course you do have to come up with a sheath, or make your own. A formidable weapon that can practically hide in plain sight. Isn’t that pretty much the point of this threat as well?   |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 4:38:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: @Alacran Much appreciated, amigo. I forgot about B&T's USW. I already have Radian's Ramjet/Afterburner on my G19, so I think that would be better to use in a compact weapon without my having to go out and buy a P365 + Flux Raider or G17/G17L for said B&T. I spent a good penny having serrations cut into it, but hey, I'd rather go PDW Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: Originally Posted By Alacran: B&T supports various platforms which obviously include Glock…  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNqzac4Aa4A brace version… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTgVcZRZmmI@Alacran Much appreciated, amigo. I forgot about B&T's USW. I already have Radian's Ramjet/Afterburner on my G19, so I think that would be better to use in a compact weapon without my having to go out and buy a P365 + Flux Raider or G17/G17L for said B&T. I spent a good penny having serrations cut into it, but hey, I'd rather go PDW @Scalped I couldn’t help but think of you while watching this video. This with the Flux Raider would be one hell of a PDW combo. It’s only money, right?  The NEW Radian P365 AFTERBURNER + RAMJET |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 6:50:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ROCK6: This, in spades and one of my primary reasons for PDWs. Next weekend I'll have a co-worker who's finally getting to shoot his CZ Scorpion pistol and his wife, and two daughters will come as well. I'll bet dollars to donuts they shoot any number of braced pistols" vastly better than any handgun if I run them through a couple simple drills. ROCK6 Yuuup. When people express how they dont “get” pistol caliber pdws, what it tells me is they havent spent much time teaching women and kids to shoot. Your experience matches mine. |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 6:51:09 PM EST
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5.56 Rattler arrived.
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Posted: 7/7/2024 6:52:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: @ROCK6 Every time you post pictures of your items, my eyes get big as saucers and my wallet runs to hide under the bed. The RMJ Stabby Guy has become my weak-side EDC now. It kind of reminds me of the spike end of the Shrike/Kestrel tomahawks. Almost like a carrying a mini tomahawk that fits the palm of your hand…almost. I do love Klein Tools. They’ve replaced Craftsman as my go-to tools but I just use them for their intended purpose. I almost bought one of those combat flatheads off of Dom Rosco’s website but I actually think I already had something better, which is a vintage all-steel Cresent Tool Company screwdriver that converts to a T-handle. They sometimes can be found on etsy & ebay and are usually cheaper than the tactical ones, too. Of course you do have to come up with a sheath, or make your own. A formidable weapon that can practically hide in plain sight. Isn’t that pretty much the point of this threat as well? https://www.toolexchange.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_9671.jpg https://www.jimbodetools.com/cdn/shop/products/100247_1000x.jpg?v=1634091344 Fancy. I'm a tactical crusader spike man myself.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 7:03:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: @Scalped I couldn’t help but think of you while watching this video. This with the Flux Raider would be one hell of a PDW combo. It’s only money, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiz5ULk4cU0Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Alacran: Originally Posted By Scalped: Originally Posted By Alacran: B&T supports various platforms which obviously include Glock… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNqzac4Aa4A brace version… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTgVcZRZmmI@Alacran Much appreciated, amigo. I forgot about B&T's USW. I already have Radian's Ramjet/Afterburner on my G19, so I think that would be better to use in a compact weapon without my having to go out and buy a P365 + Flux Raider or G17/G17L for said B&T. I spent a good penny having serrations cut into it, but hey, I'd rather go PDW @Scalped I couldn’t help but think of you while watching this video. This with the Flux Raider would be one hell of a PDW combo. It’s only money, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiz5ULk4cU0@Alacran IIRC the combo hasn't been talked about much on here (even in the technical forums), but it's absolutely a game changer for a PDW chassis like the Flux or USW. Dampens recoil and adds slide length.. whatever helps to keep your fingers intact lol. Both aspects are worth their weight in gold Also, I'm typing this as the USW-G is sitting in my cart haha. |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 7:14:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThat reminded me that I never got the overgassed issue sorted out on my 5.56 Rattler when running supressed. Just sent Sig an email hoping they will give me some info on a reduced port size gas valve. |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 7:37:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: Fancy. I'm a tactical crusader spike man myself. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496432/IMG_5637_jpg-3260805.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496432/IMG_5638_jpg-3260806.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: Originally Posted By Alacran: @ROCK6 Every time you post pictures of your items, my eyes get big as saucers and my wallet runs to hide under the bed. The RMJ Stabby Guy has become my weak-side EDC now. It kind of reminds me of the spike end of the Shrike/Kestrel tomahawks. Almost like a carrying a mini tomahawk that fits the palm of your hand…almost. I do love Klein Tools. They’ve replaced Craftsman as my go-to tools but I just use them for their intended purpose. I almost bought one of those combat flatheads off of Dom Rosco’s website but I actually think I already had something better, which is a vintage all-steel Cresent Tool Company screwdriver that converts to a T-handle. They sometimes can be found on etsy & ebay and are usually cheaper than the tactical ones, too. Of course you do have to come up with a sheath, or make your own. A formidable weapon that can practically hide in plain sight. Isn’t that pretty much the point of this threat as well? https://www.toolexchange.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/IMG_9671.jpg https://www.jimbodetools.com/cdn/shop/products/100247_1000x.jpg?v=1634091344 Fancy. I'm a tactical crusader spike man myself. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496432/IMG_5637_jpg-3260805.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496432/IMG_5638_jpg-3260806.JPG You could give Bigfoot a lobotomy with that thing. lol I’ve got a couple of smaller ones. Some assembly required.  https://www.empiretactical.org/custom-us-made-tactical-gear/the-titanium-lobotomizer-coming-soon |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 7:45:36 PM EST
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Yuuup. When people express how they dont "get" pistol caliber pdws, what it tells me is they havent spent much time teaching women and kids to shoot. Your experience matches mine. And to add (this goes along with the video from Desert Brutality feedback using the USW chassis), I see people (including the OP) conflating what I see are 2 different discussions. 1) Here is a specific scenario: What is the most appropriate firearm for this situation? 2) Here is a specific firearm: What are appropriate situations to use this? While there is some varying degrees of Venn diagram overlap, I'm seeing a bit of latching on to a specific firearm/platform and then trying to justify its use as opposed to objectively identifying the best firearm/platform for the scenario as described in the OP. |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 7:47:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: @Alacran IIRC the combo hasn't been talked about much on here (even in the technical forums), but it's absolutely a game changer for a PDW chassis like the Flux or USW. Dampens recoil and adds slide length.. whatever helps to keep your fingers intact lol. Both aspects are worth their weight in gold Also, I'm typing this as the USW-G is sitting in my cart haha. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: Originally Posted By Alacran: Originally Posted By Scalped: Originally Posted By Alacran: B&T supports various platforms which obviously include Glock… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNqzac4Aa4A brace version… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTgVcZRZmmI@Alacran Much appreciated, amigo. I forgot about B&T's USW. I already have Radian's Ramjet/Afterburner on my G19, so I think that would be better to use in a compact weapon without my having to go out and buy a P365 + Flux Raider or G17/G17L for said B&T. I spent a good penny having serrations cut into it, but hey, I'd rather go PDW @Scalped I couldn’t help but think of you while watching this video. This with the Flux Raider would be one hell of a PDW combo. It’s only money, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiz5ULk4cU0@Alacran IIRC the combo hasn't been talked about much on here (even in the technical forums), but it's absolutely a game changer for a PDW chassis like the Flux or USW. Dampens recoil and adds slide length.. whatever helps to keep your fingers intact lol. Both aspects are worth their weight in gold Also, I'm typing this as the USW-G is sitting in my cart haha. Cool! B&T makes some quality stuff. I really like the ACRO with this setup, too. I’m not exactly a fan of the Sig striker platform but, you are absolutely right. The ability to CCW on the body a formidable PDW that is controllable and has a magazine capacity up to 21 rds. (so far) is absolutely a game changer! |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 7:53:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scalped: @Alacran IIRC the combo hasn't been talked about much on here (even in the technical forums), but it's absolutely a game changer for a PDW chassis like the Flux or USW. Dampens recoil and adds slide length.. whatever helps to keep your fingers intact lol. Both aspects are worth their weight in gold Also, I'm typing this as the USW-G is sitting in my cart haha. I have an Arc Division reactor full size 320 slide I need to try in the flux and b&t. Been using it as a pistol and like it a lot. |
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Posted: 7/7/2024 8:21:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: To be sure, nothing in your OP indicated that the scenario involved arming women & children. And to add (this goes along with the video from Desert Brutality feedback using the USW chassis), I see people (including the OP) conflating what I see are 2 different discussions. 1) Here is a specific scenario: What is the most appropriate firearm for this situation? 2) Here is a specific firearm: What are appropriate situations to use this? While there is some varying degrees of Venn diagram overlap, I'm seeing a bit of latching on to a specific firearm/platform and then trying to justify its use as opposed to objectively identifying the best firearm/platform for the scenario as described in the OP. Arming the wife was very specifically mentioned in the OP, and has been discussed multiple times in this thread and in the original thread as a possible scenario. And dude. All gun guy discussions are venn diagrams between optimal, realistic, defending previously made purchases, arguing my made up scenario vs your made up scenario, whatever. Every thread discussing barrel length, alternate AR cartridges, chili ingredients all have a bunch of people coming at a topic from a million different directions. Heck, you even have folks who cant read the OP before weighing in with their .02… Its a 10 page thread because theres a lot of different opinions and options, about what a pdw is, what scenario calls for one, good pdw candidates…last version of this thread had a guy calling his Aug a pdw because it was the same size as a mk18. Every thread from carry guns to home defense guns is similar. Not sure why you read it this way but the original post was not a biblical commandment carved in stone proclaiming the only possible scenario a pdw might be useful or could be discussed in the context of being used. It was just a jumping off point for a thread about the guns that could serve as one. I even specifically mentioned fully understanding the “handgun or rifle and nothing inbetween” mindset and that I wasnt calling if wrong at all (thats right above the part of the OP that involved arming women). Hope that helps. |
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Posted: 7/9/2024 5:37:34 PM EST
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To bridge the gap between pistol and subgun.
I have to admit, this concept is what sparked my interest in expanding my options from the original thread. Plenty of those options to choose from now with potentially more on the way.  B&T''s USW-A1: The Ultimate Crossover Firearm |
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Posted: 7/9/2024 7:14:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Arming the wife was very specifically mentioned in the OP, and has been discussed multiple times in this thread and in the original thread as a possible scenario. And dude. All gun guy discussions are venn diagrams between optimal, realistic, defending previously made purchases, arguing my made up scenario vs your made up scenario, whatever. Every thread discussing barrel length, alternate AR cartridges, chili ingredients all have a bunch of people coming at a topic from a million different directions. Heck, you even have folks who cant read the OP before weighing in with their .02 Its a 10 page thread because theres a lot of different opinions and options, about what a pdw is, what scenario calls for one, good pdw candidates last version of this thread had a guy calling his Aug a pdw because it was the same size as a mk18. Every thread from carry guns to home defense guns is similar. Not sure why you read it this way but the original post was not a biblical commandment carved in stone proclaiming the only possible scenario a pdw might be useful or could be discussed in the context of being used. It was just a jumping off point for a thread about the guns that could serve as one. I even specifically mentioned fully understanding the "handgun or rifle and nothing inbetween" mindset and that I wasnt calling if wrong at all (thats right above the part of the OP that involved arming women). Hope that helps.
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Posted: 7/9/2024 7:30:06 PM EST
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One of the stories I tell is I purchased an AP5 and suppressor so my small frame wife would be more comfortable shooting.
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Posted: 7/9/2024 7:52:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LnWlf: You’d be better going with a handgun caliber at that length. You get the fireball and concussion of 5.56, but the performance of 5.7x28 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LnWlf: Originally Posted By livinfree: I really like this in .556, 4.75” barrel. I know a lot of you think it is too short for .556, but I don’t have to add a caliber I don’t already have. Add sights/optic of your choice. Fits in Jansport backpack. Put whatever lower on it you want, same mags and ammo you already have. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/273029/22F7ECA4-E03B-4369-9C54-ED80BEBD8893_jpe-3242216.JPG You’d be better going with a handgun caliber at that length. You get the fireball and concussion of 5.56, but the performance of 5.7x28 221 fireball ... load long to fill up some mag space . 1:7 twist with 77gr tmk. |
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Posted: 7/10/2024 1:52:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: Scoobysmak]
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Damn you OP....
 I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread....  I guess I want to play with the 5.7 round. I am looking more along the lines of the Diamondback DBX57 and CMMG Dissent. The PSA model isn't out yet but I know this isn't a good reason not to like it but on the looks department.... it just doesn't tickle my fancy. I looked at the Sig rattler but doesn't appear to chambered in 5.7. Any other options like these out there? If the only options you had of the two listed just above, which would you pick? Not looking to brace a standard pistol or use a LAW folder for an AR so I can fire more than one round right after I pull it out of the bag. |
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Posted: 7/10/2024 1:56:48 PM EST
[Last Edit: CFletch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scoobysmak: Damn you OP.... I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread.... I guess I want to play with the 5.7 round. I am looking more along the lines of the Diamondback DBX57 and CMMG Dissent. The PSA model isn't out yet but I know this isn't a good reason not to like it but on the looks department.... it just doesn't tickle my fancy. I looked at the Sig rattler but doesn't appear to chambered in 5.7. Any other options like these out there? If the only options you had of the two listed just above, which would you pick? Not looking to brace a pistol or use a LAW folder for an AR so I can fire more than one round right after I pull it out of the bag.   |
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Posted: 7/10/2024 3:28:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFletch: I think the Ruger LC is pretty sweet, I'd look at it if you haven't yet http://ruger.com/productImages/19303/detail/1.jpghttp://ruger.com/productImages/19300/detail/1.jpg |
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Posted: 7/10/2024 4:07:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scoobysmak: Damn you OP.... I knew I shouldn't have clicked on this thread.... I guess I want to play with the 5.7 round. I am looking more along the lines of the Diamondback DBX57 and CMMG Dissent. The PSA model isn't out yet but I know this isn't a good reason not to like it but on the looks department.... it just doesn't tickle my fancy. I looked at the Sig rattler but doesn't appear to chambered in 5.7. Any other options like these out there? If the only options you had of the two listed just above, which would you pick? Not looking to brace a pistol or use a LAW folder for an AR so I can fire more than one round right after I pull it out of the bag. The OG PS90 if willing to paper it. Can’t speak to above |
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Posted: 7/10/2024 7:09:36 PM EST
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Thanks for the suggestions, I doubt I will go for the OG PS90 but still worth mentioning.
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Posted: 7/10/2024 7:27:45 PM EST
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Cmmg 5.7 upper on a psa sbr lower. Skinner sights makes some nice cases. I have another one for my winnie 1897 riot takedown shotgun
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Posted: 7/10/2024 10:09:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drjaydvm: Cmmg 5.7 upper on a psa sbr lower. Skinner sights makes some nice cases. I have another one for my winnie 1897 riot takedown shotgun https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/469669/IMG_8072_jpeg-3263027.JPG Very nice! I put together a 5.7 upper with the 8” CMMG barrel/bolt. It’s a fun little carbine. |
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Posted: 7/11/2024 6:46:35 AM EST
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Old picture of how large a 10.3 with a law folder is next to a Mp5k.
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Posted: 7/12/2024 3:40:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Old picture of how large a 10.3 with a law folder is next to a Mp5k. https://i.imgur.com/QzOtOKN.jpeg @74novaman 2 ounce difference with the Sig being slightly heavier. That said, it’s 24 more rounds, a spare mag, a light and an optic. I know which I would prefer in my hands at either bad breath distance, in a hotel room, or out to 100+ yards. Carried it IWB a bit and honestly less terrible than I thought. This may become my new truck gun after being vetted.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/12/2024 4:10:38 PM EST
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Right on!
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Posted: 7/12/2024 4:41:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: @74novaman 2 ounce difference with the Sig being slightly heavier. That said, it’s 24 more rounds, a spare mag, a light and an optic. I know which I would prefer in my hands at either bad breath distance, in a hotel room, or out to 100+ yards. Carried it IWB a bit and honestly less terrible than I thought. This may become my new truck gun after being vetted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7375_jpeg-3264518.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7374_jpeg-3264519.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7372_jpeg-3264520.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7370_jpeg-3264521.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7371_jpeg-3264522.JPG I'm definitely in. |
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Posted: 7/12/2024 6:53:41 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: @74novaman 2 ounce difference with the Sig being slightly heavier. That said, it’s 24 more rounds, a spare mag, a light and an optic. I know which I would prefer in my hands at either bad breath distance, in a hotel room, or out to 100+ yards. Carried it IWB a bit and honestly less terrible than I thought. This may become my new truck gun after being vetted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7375_jpeg-3264518.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7374_jpeg-3264519.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7372_jpeg-3264520.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7370_jpeg-3264521.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7371_jpeg-3264522.JPG I’m an AIWB guy, and a skinny fuck to boot, but how high were you wearing your belt to keep that bitch out of your nuts? The issue I find with longer guns is digging into my junk or the holster/rear sight area pushing into my abs while seated. My EDC is a G42 or G26, both with lights and RDS. I’ll AIWB a light and RMR sporting G19 if I’m going to the range with baggy pants and UV shirt, but that thing looks crazy long. |
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Posted: 7/12/2024 7:11:00 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: @74novaman 2 ounce difference with the Sig being slightly heavier. That said, it’s 24 more rounds, a spare mag, a light and an optic. I know which I would prefer in my hands at either bad breath distance, in a hotel room, or out to 100+ yards. Carried it IWB a bit and honestly less terrible than I thought. This may become my new truck gun after being vetted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7375_jpeg-3264518.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7374_jpeg-3264519.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7372_jpeg-3264520.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7370_jpeg-3264521.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7371_jpeg-3264522.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: Originally Posted By 74novaman: Old picture of how large a 10.3 with a law folder is next to a Mp5k. https://i.imgur.com/QzOtOKN.jpeg @74novaman 2 ounce difference with the Sig being slightly heavier. That said, it’s 24 more rounds, a spare mag, a light and an optic. I know which I would prefer in my hands at either bad breath distance, in a hotel room, or out to 100+ yards. Carried it IWB a bit and honestly less terrible than I thought. This may become my new truck gun after being vetted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7375_jpeg-3264518.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7374_jpeg-3264519.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7372_jpeg-3264520.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7370_jpeg-3264521.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7371_jpeg-3264522.JPG That Flux Raider setup is awesome. I put myself on the wait list a few weeks ago - I'd love to get one. Does that have to be registered as an SBR? Or does it qualify as a brace? |
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Posted: 7/12/2024 7:37:37 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astrocreep96: That Flux Raider setup is awesome. I put myself on the wait list a few weeks ago - I'd love to get one. Does that have to be registered as an SBR? Or does it qualify as a brace? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By astrocreep96: Originally Posted By steviesterno16: Originally Posted By 74novaman: Old picture of how large a 10.3 with a law folder is next to a Mp5k. https://i.imgur.com/QzOtOKN.jpeg @74novaman 2 ounce difference with the Sig being slightly heavier. That said, it’s 24 more rounds, a spare mag, a light and an optic. I know which I would prefer in my hands at either bad breath distance, in a hotel room, or out to 100+ yards. Carried it IWB a bit and honestly less terrible than I thought. This may become my new truck gun after being vetted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7375_jpeg-3264518.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7374_jpeg-3264519.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7372_jpeg-3264520.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7370_jpeg-3264521.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7371_jpeg-3264522.JPG That Flux Raider setup is awesome. I put myself on the wait list a few weeks ago - I'd love to get one. Does that have to be registered as an SBR? Or does it qualify as a brace? I don’t know Idaho law so this concern may not be applicable there, but everywhere I have lived had a ban on carrying rifles concealed. It comes as a brace and I’d say for most folks they want to leave it as a brace so as not to cause more legal headaches for themselves. Here in CO, for instance, carrying a rifle in a car with a round chambered is a no-go. If I was carrying that thing as an SBR, how could I get around that? |
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Posted: 7/12/2024 7:54:07 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcw107: I'm definitely in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcw107: Originally Posted By steviesterno16: @74novaman 2 ounce difference with the Sig being slightly heavier. That said, it's 24 more rounds, a spare mag, a light and an optic. I know which I would prefer in my hands at either bad breath distance, in a hotel room, or out to 100+ yards. Carried it IWB a bit and honestly less terrible than I thought. This may become my new truck gun after being vetted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7375_jpeg-3264518.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7374_jpeg-3264519.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7372_jpeg-3264520.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7370_jpeg-3264521.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7371_jpeg-3264522.JPG I'm definitely in. Yeah. I'm about 90% there. I think I'll wait a year to see what else drops on the market. Especially in the 5.7 space. |
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Posted: 7/12/2024 7:55:55 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lothbrok: I don't know Idaho law so this concern may not be applicable there, but everywhere I have lived had a ban on carrying rifles concealed. It comes as a brace and I'd say for most folks they want to leave it as a brace so as not to cause more legal headaches for themselves. Here in CO, for instance, carrying a rifle in a car with a round chambered is a no-go. If I was carrying that thing as an SBR, how could I get around that? What fucky laws we have in this nation. 
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Posted: 7/12/2024 9:08:18 PM EST
[#36]
Originally Posted By ROCK6: @Alacran, yeah, I'm a little guilty https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20240707_135105.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v440/ROCK-6/20240707_135105.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds To be honest and to save everyone else interested a lot of money, I found a simple Klein demolition screwdriver for about $15 works remarkably well for such an application. I did cut the thicker rubber outer handle and then wrapped the handle in Monkey Tape for the "tactical" look Klein Demolition Screwdriver This, in spades and one of my primary reasons for PDWs. Next weekend I'll have a co-worker who's finally getting to shoot his CZ Scorpion pistol and his wife, and two daughters will come as well. I'll bet dollars to donuts they shoot any number of braced pistols" vastly better than any handgun if I run them through a couple simple drills. ROCK6 Originally Posted By Scalped: Fancy. I'm a tactical crusader spike man myself. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496432/IMG_5637_jpg-3260805.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/496432/IMG_5638_jpg-3260806.JPG I didn't realize there was a market for "blades" like those. I end up tossing slivers/off cuts of blade steel in sizes like that in thickness between 1/8" and 3/16" because I couldn't think of anything productive to do with them. Maybe I'll try knocking a few awl/scraper/screwdriver things out. Originally Posted By 9D1Alpha: 221 fireball ... load long to fill up some mag space . 1:7 twist with 77gr tmk. That seems similar to the time I caught my stepdad messing with loading 55gr fmjs in 30 caliber sabots in 300blk. |
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Posted: 7/12/2024 9:32:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9D1Alpha]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DFARM: I didn't realize there was a market for "blades" like those. I end up tossing slivers/off cuts of blade steel in sizes like that in thickness between 1/8" and 3/16" because I couldn't think of anything productive to do with them. Maybe I'll try knocking a few awl/scraper/screwdriver things out. That seems similar to the time I caught my stepdad messing with loading 55gr fmjs in 30 caliber sabots in 300blk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DFARM: Originally Posted By ROCK6: @Alacran, yeah, I'm a little guilty type Status report message description Access to the specified resource has been forbidden. Apache Tomcat/7.0.68 (Ubuntu) |
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