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Posted: 9/29/2024 3:23:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lothbrok: Was finally able to get out with the TP9 after getting the ACRO on there. That's a game-changer for this gun. The iron sights are some of the worst I've ever used. Throwing a micro dot on there, though? It really turned the gun around, I think. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102217/2024-09-29_10_17_12-3335588.jpg 100rds at 25yds. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102217/2024-09-29_10-3335591.jpg The headbox is still pretty hard to hit - gotta work on that trigger, but damn is it a bad trigger. The low left shots are also trying to work that trigger as quickly as the dot is back on target. Need a bit more practice with that. Overall, though? Pretty happy with the setup as it is now. I have an HK SP89 converted to HK MP5k/N with a three lug mounted Wolfman. But I’ve been thinking about a TP9 setup like that too. The trigger is giving me pause though but I’ve never fired one. |
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Posted: 9/29/2024 3:55:22 PM EST
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Shot the ‘Shit Weasel’ today. 250 rounds subsonic with the suppressor.
Ran like a Swiss watch. Ejection at 3 o’clock.  Attached File30 rounds at 50 yards after dialing it in.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/29/2024 7:13:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pilatuspilot: I have an HK SP89 converted to HK MP5k/N with a three lug mounted Wolfman. But I’ve been thinking about a TP9 setup like that too. The trigger is giving me pause though but I’ve never fired one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pilatuspilot: Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Was finally able to get out with the TP9 after getting the ACRO on there. That's a game-changer for this gun. The iron sights are some of the worst I've ever used. Throwing a micro dot on there, though? It really turned the gun around, I think. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102217/2024-09-29_10_17_12-3335588.jpg 100rds at 25yds. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102217/2024-09-29_10-3335591.jpg The headbox is still pretty hard to hit - gotta work on that trigger, but damn is it a bad trigger. The low left shots are also trying to work that trigger as quickly as the dot is back on target. Need a bit more practice with that. Overall, though? Pretty happy with the setup as it is now. I have an HK SP89 converted to HK MP5k/N with a three lug mounted Wolfman. But I’ve been thinking about a TP9 setup like that too. The trigger is giving me pause though but I’ve never fired one. I want a TP9 so bad, but the fact that EVERY owner brings up the shit trigger in nearly every post about them 
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Posted: 9/29/2024 7:22:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: sandboxmedic]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Meeee too please! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Originally Posted By D_Man: I'm out of pocket until Friday but I can host it up somewhere and I'll shoot you a PM. Meeee too please!  Same please
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Posted: 9/30/2024 2:33:16 PM EST
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 Is The PDW Bag Gun a Stupid Fantasy? Admin takes on this thread.  Its a good video and basically all things we’ve discussed here at length. He didnt get into much of what I’ve been calling “medium spicy” situations, which is where I think this kind of set up really shines, which would be my only counter argument. |
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Posted: 9/30/2024 4:00:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNzW7iDHLvcAdmin takes on this thread. Its a good video and basically all things we’ve discussed here at length. He didnt get into much of what I’ve been calling “medium spicy” situations, which is where I think this kind of set up really shines, which would be my only counter argument. The video was bad and covered almost nothing in my eyes. Seems like he’s not a fan and just mostly showed B roll of him mag dumping. |
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Posted: 9/30/2024 5:04:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pilatuspilot: I have an HK SP89 converted to HK MP5k/N with a three lug mounted Wolfman. But I’ve been thinking about a TP9 setup like that too. The trigger is giving me pause though but I’ve never fired one. Skip it and get the USW-A1. Fantastic trigger and you can carry it on your hip. Probably cheaper too. Definitely more Double-Oh-Seven. Seriously, my USW is my favorite gun in a pretty serious and eclectic collection. It would be the absolute last to go because it’s unique and it FUCKING WORKS WELL. It’s the only one of my “pistol based” PDW’s that I would trust to take a head shot at 120 yards, though with trigger time I might trust my USW-G also. |
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Posted: 9/30/2024 5:06:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: TheOtherDave]
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Posted: 9/30/2024 5:13:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lothbrok: Enjoy it! Great system. (Other than the foibles I talked about earlier.) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lothbrok: Originally Posted By atacdale66: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/85690/20240910_150718_jpg-3318988.JPG Well. This thread made me pull the trigger. Here's to waiting for the paper work approval in short order. Enjoy it! Great system. (Other than the foibles I talked about earlier.) what foibles, if you don't mind me asking? I didn't see them? |
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Posted: 9/30/2024 6:56:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pilatuspilot: I have an HK SP89 converted to HK MP5k/N with a three lug mounted Wolfman. But I’ve been thinking about a TP9 setup like that too. The trigger is giving me pause though but I’ve never fired one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pilatuspilot: Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Was finally able to get out with the TP9 after getting the ACRO on there. That's a game-changer for this gun. The iron sights are some of the worst I've ever used. Throwing a micro dot on there, though? It really turned the gun around, I think. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102217/2024-09-29_10_17_12-3335588.jpg 100rds at 25yds. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102217/2024-09-29_10-3335591.jpg The headbox is still pretty hard to hit - gotta work on that trigger, but damn is it a bad trigger. The low left shots are also trying to work that trigger as quickly as the dot is back on target. Need a bit more practice with that. Overall, though? Pretty happy with the setup as it is now. I have an HK SP89 converted to HK MP5k/N with a three lug mounted Wolfman. But I’ve been thinking about a TP9 setup like that too. The trigger is giving me pause though but I’ve never fired one. I have a Scorpion, a VZ61, a couple MP5 clones, the TP9, and numerous other SBRs in rifle calibers. For the purposes of a PDW, none are as good as the TP9. It's small, it has a great suppressor, controls are fine, the trigger just sucks. I honestly need some more practice with it to get more confident in those shots, but at 25yds offhand unsupported with a garbage trigger, I'm not too worried it about. I need to run some drills comparing it to my G43x which is my daily carry. I'm not a big proponent of carrying a PDW all the time, but like OP talked about with "medium spicy" situations, I could see it being nice to have the intermediary. |
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Posted: 9/30/2024 7:15:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: towerofpower94]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Skip it and get the USW-A1. Fantastic trigger and you can carry it on your hip. Probably cheaper too. Definitely more Double-Oh-Seven. Seriously, my USW is my favorite gun in a pretty serious and eclectic collection. It would be the absolute last to go because it’s unique and it FUCKING WORKS WELL. It’s the only one of my “pistol based” PDW’s that I would trust to take a head shot at 120 yards, though with trigger time I might trust my USW-G also. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Originally Posted By pilatuspilot: I have an HK SP89 converted to HK MP5k/N with a three lug mounted Wolfman. But I’ve been thinking about a TP9 setup like that too. The trigger is giving me pause though but I’ve never fired one. Skip it and get the USW-A1. Fantastic trigger and you can carry it on your hip. Probably cheaper too. Definitely more Double-Oh-Seven. Seriously, my USW is my favorite gun in a pretty serious and eclectic collection. It would be the absolute last to go because it’s unique and it FUCKING WORKS WELL. It’s the only one of my “pistol based” PDW’s that I would trust to take a head shot at 120 yards, though with trigger time I might trust my USW-G also. Small world. I bought a USW-G off a guy at work today. Came home to realize I only have one Glock slide that doesn’t have an RMR on it, so my SBR’d G17.4 frame is in it along with a plain ol’ slide with a Dawson red fiber front sight I haven’t used in years. Going to slap an RM06 on top and see how she do. ETA: anyone know if a P80 frame will work with the USW-G? I’ve got a few just sitting around and I’d like to keep my G17.4 as a pistol if I could. |
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Posted: 9/30/2024 7:23:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNzW7iDHLvcAdmin takes on this thread. Its a good video and basically all things we’ve discussed here at length. He didnt get into much of what I’ve been calling “medium spicy” situations, which is where I think this kind of set up really shines, which would be my only counter argument. It's likely that his environment dictates necessity. BFE Arizona is probably a dumb place for a Flux. Downtown Phoenix is probably a dumb place to go full retard with a SCAR 17. My environment generally is somewhere in the middle. |
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Posted: 9/30/2024 7:27:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: I'm jealous. what foibles, if you don't mind me asking? I didn't see them? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Seven-Shooter: Originally Posted By Lothbrok: Originally Posted By atacdale66: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/85690/20240910_150718_jpg-3318988.JPG Well. This thread made me pull the trigger. Here's to waiting for the paper work approval in short order. Enjoy it! Great system. (Other than the foibles I talked about earlier.) what foibles, if you don't mind me asking? I didn't see them? @Seven-Shooter Mainly mag costs, trigger, and the charging handle being flimsy as shit for a $2k firearm. Other folks have had issues with mags shattering on drops, but I haven't seen that personally yet. My main training range is sand so my mags get a bit of cushion when they drop free, which might make a difference I guess. |
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Posted: 9/30/2024 8:29:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNzW7iDHLvcAdmin takes on this thread. Its a good video and basically all things we’ve discussed here at length. He didnt get into much of what I’ve been calling “medium spicy” situations, which is where I think this kind of set up really shines, which would be my only counter argument. Screen name? |
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Posted: 10/1/2024 6:45:53 AM EST
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P80 in a Recover with a red dot and 33rd mag is the tits. Combine with an Unobtanium Drip-9 chest rig with a smoke and a radio. The whole package fits in a preppy messenger bag and can be done for less than $1000.
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Posted: 10/1/2024 7:28:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: TheOtherDave]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: Small world. I bought a USW-G off a guy at work today. Came home to realize I only have one Glock slide that doesn’t have an RMR on it, so my SBR’d G17.4 frame is in it along with a plain ol’ slide with a Dawson red fiber front sight I haven’t used in years. Going to slap an RM06 on top and see how she do. ETA: anyone know if a P80 frame will work with the USW-G? I’ve got a few just sitting around and I’d like to keep my G17.4 as a pistol if I could. The chassis and/or the P80 need to be modified to play together. I plan to find out, I have both leftover from a house fire that I don’t care if they aren’t “factory” when I get done. It will probably have either a Holusun 509 ACSS or a whatever model RMR it is that has the Amber triangle dual illuminated reticle on a riser. I’m just putting that on there because it’s extra, I like them, and the gun will be rarely played with and I don’t want to deal with batteries on that particular gun. The one I have together now has a 7.5” barrel and the SLX-1x in the 9mm BDC reticle for 7.5 and 16” barrels. Pretty impressed so far with the practical accuracy, but need to drop a Timney in it before putting it on paper. ETA: I learned the hard way that in cold weather an open reflex sight like an RMR, SRO, whatever will collect rain, sleet, snow etc and freeze over in cold weather because it doesn’t have body heat on a chassis’s pistol in the right weather. Even the emitter frosted over, so the sight was bricked until it was taken inside and thawed. |
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Posted: 10/1/2024 3:17:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BayEagle: P80 in a Recover with a red dot and 33rd mag is the tits. Combine with an Unobtanium Drip-9 chest rig with a smoke and a radio. The whole package fits in a preppy messenger bag and can be done for less than $1000. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/42280/tumi-grey-grey-clifton-crossbody-small-f-3337229.jpg Shit.... i dig this plan. I kinda forgot about recover tactical. I really need to get one. |
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Posted: 10/1/2024 4:52:53 PM EST
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My humble submission, an 11.5" 5.56 pistol. It's a little big for a PDW, but it's the best I have at the moment.
 Attached FileNormally I keep it in an ice fishing case. It fits in that case with a 20 round magazine inserted and the sights folded and TLR-3 removed. Not ideal, but still usable to an extent right out of the case. The paracord around the handguard and buffer tube are mostly to insulate bare skin from cold metal. I haven't shot it enough to get it hot since I wrapped it. The sling is mounted securely to a loop on the handguard and on the receiver end plate, but for storage I keep it tied off to the side. Tug on those knots and the sling unfolds. The large aperture of the rear sight is painted to help in lower light. The front sight post has a fiber optic insert for the same reason. The sights clear the TLR-3.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/1/2024 7:27:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: The chassis and/or the P80 need to be modified to play together. I plan to find out, I have both leftover from a house fire that I don’t care if they aren’t “factory” when I get done. It will probably have either a Holusun 509 ACSS or a whatever model RMR it is that has the Amber triangle dual illuminated reticle on a riser. I’m just putting that on there because it’s extra, I like them, and the gun will be rarely played with and I don’t want to deal with batteries on that particular gun. The one I have together now has a 7.5” barrel and the SLX-1x in the 9mm BDC reticle for 7.5 and 16” barrels. Pretty impressed so far with the practical accuracy, but need to drop a Timney in it before putting it on paper. ETA: I learned the hard way that in cold weather an open reflex sight like an RMR, SRO, whatever will collect rain, sleet, snow etc and freeze over in cold weather because it doesn’t have body heat on a chassis’s pistol in the right weather. Even the emitter frosted over, so the sight was bricked until it was taken inside and thawed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheOtherDave: Originally Posted By towerofpower94: Small world. I bought a USW-G off a guy at work today. Came home to realize I only have one Glock slide that doesn’t have an RMR on it, so my SBR’d G17.4 frame is in it along with a plain ol’ slide with a Dawson red fiber front sight I haven’t used in years. Going to slap an RM06 on top and see how she do. ETA: anyone know if a P80 frame will work with the USW-G? I’ve got a few just sitting around and I’d like to keep my G17.4 as a pistol if I could. The chassis and/or the P80 need to be modified to play together. I plan to find out, I have both leftover from a house fire that I don’t care if they aren’t “factory” when I get done. It will probably have either a Holusun 509 ACSS or a whatever model RMR it is that has the Amber triangle dual illuminated reticle on a riser. I’m just putting that on there because it’s extra, I like them, and the gun will be rarely played with and I don’t want to deal with batteries on that particular gun. The one I have together now has a 7.5” barrel and the SLX-1x in the 9mm BDC reticle for 7.5 and 16” barrels. Pretty impressed so far with the practical accuracy, but need to drop a Timney in it before putting it on paper. ETA: I learned the hard way that in cold weather an open reflex sight like an RMR, SRO, whatever will collect rain, sleet, snow etc and freeze over in cold weather because it doesn’t have body heat on a chassis’s pistol in the right weather. Even the emitter frosted over, so the sight was bricked until it was taken inside and thawed. I was wondering if a P80 frame could be trimmed up to fit the USW-G chassis. Seems to be plenty of support from the chassis compared to the Gen 3 to Gen 4 mods guys have done to P80 frames. |
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Posted: 10/6/2024 7:58:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcw107: It's likely that his environment dictates necessity. BFE Arizona is probably a dumb place for a Flux. Downtown Phoenix is probably a dumb place to go full retard with a SCAR 17. My environment generally is somewhere in the middle. 100%. My 6.5 Grendel fascination is from growing up in the panhandle. When you can watch your dog run away for two days it makes you appreciate being able to reach out a bit. These days I’m more in 300blk territory of 200y and in almost everywhere I go. |
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Posted: 10/8/2024 5:51:14 PM EST
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Here’s a pretty humble submission. FM9 upper with Endomag. Sight is an old (like mid-90’s) OKO dot I had lying around. Runs like a top and, broken down, fits in my laptop bag. Thinking about getting a folding stock adapter for it, since then it’d fit in just about any case/backpack I have without breaking it down. Might not be much but with a couple mags, there aren’t many problems I’m likely to encounter that 60 rounds of 9mm can’t fix.
 
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Posted: 10/17/2024 8:39:55 AM EST
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Have there been any batch releases of the Flux Raider 365 since they first went on sale and immediately sold out? I haven't gotten any in-stock alert emails from them.
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Posted: 10/17/2024 10:05:40 AM EST
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Any consensus on the very best available, money-is-no-object, PDW?
Factors to consider, in descending order of importance: 1. Reliability 2. Concealability 3. Lethality >Barrier blind >Effective range A dead-nuts reliable MP5-K in 357 Sig with factory support is my conceptual ideal pdw. |
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Posted: 10/17/2024 10:51:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By towerofpower94: I was wondering if a P80 frame could be trimmed up to fit the USW-G chassis. Seems to be plenty of support from the chassis compared to the Gen 3 to Gen 4 mods guys have done to P80 frames. It’s been done and I plan to try as I have both a spare USE-G and P80 kit that survived my house fire. |
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Posted: 10/17/2024 10:52:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexCorriente: Any consensus on the very best available, money-is-no-object, PDW? Factors to consider, in descending order of importance: 1. Reliability 2. Concealability 3. Lethality >Barrier blind >Effective range A dead-nuts reliable MP5-K in 357 Sig with factory support is my conceptual ideal pdw. Where are you trying to conceal this PDW? On-body or in a bag of some sort? IMO on-body concealment for a PDW seems like a dumb idea in almost all situations as a private citizen. So if you're going to not require on-body concealment, then you're not limited to pistols-with-stocks and can consider firearms with rifle-style actions. And if you're going to use a rifle action, then going with a rifle cartridge over a pistol cartridge seems like a no-brainer, considering requirement #3 you listed. IOW, a SIG Rattler in 300 BLK. |
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Posted: 10/18/2024 7:20:02 PM EST
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Lena Miculek running a P320 Raider setup at the PCC Nationals.
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Posted: 10/18/2024 8:19:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: Lena Miculek running a P320 Raider setup at the PCC Nationals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bEnoLzlTcgInteresting stock set up on that one. |
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Posted: 10/18/2024 8:34:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By: Shot the ‘Shit Weasel’ today. 250 rounds subsonic with the suppressor. Ran like a Swiss watch. Ejection at 3 o’clock. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284805/IMG_0228_jpeg-3335818.JPG 30 rounds at 50 yards after dialing it in. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284805/IMG_0289_jpeg-3335820.JPG Details on the ‘Shit Weasel’? @jkirkon |
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Posted: 10/18/2024 8:38:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: steve8140]
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I’ve been playing with the Raider X and so far I’ve been very happy with it. Quick to deploy, easy to handle and get follow up shots. Biggest thing to get used to is reloads and remembering the spare mag is in the front grip vs reaching for a belt or pocket like most handguns and rifles.
I can easily conceal this under a jacket with 17 or 21 round mags so it should make for some fun trips this fall and winter.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/18/2024 10:14:23 PM EST
[Last Edit: jkirkon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulldog1967: Details on the ‘Shit Weasel’? @jkirkon Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bulldog1967: Originally Posted By: Shot the ‘Shit Weasel’ today. 250 rounds subsonic with the suppressor. Ran like a Swiss watch. Ejection at 3 o’clock. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284805/IMG_0228_jpeg-3335818.JPG 30 rounds at 50 yards after dialing it in. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284805/IMG_0289_jpeg-3335820.JPG Details on the ‘Shit Weasel’? @jkirkon The Shit Weasel: Zev/Mega lower ALG-ACT trigger and LPK BCM Mod 0 grip SBPDW brace PSA 7” M-Lock upper .300BLK BCM Gunfighter charging handle DA Xeno 3 prong FH/Suppressor mount Resilient ‘Jolene S’ suppressor Holosun 510C Troy flip up HK style battlesight O-Light WML Magpul sling/mount.  Attached File Attached FileI will be building a 5.56 version as well. |
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Posted: 10/18/2024 10:55:12 PM EST
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I used this thought for my PSA Dagger. Disappears in a small bag and easily hits a man sized target at 100 yards consistently.
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Posted: 10/18/2024 11:13:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: Lena Miculek running a P320 Raider setup at the PCC Nationals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bEnoLzlTcgI thought DNROI got a bug in his ass over those and said they were banned? |
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Posted: 10/18/2024 11:16:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: I thought DNROI got a bug in his ass over those and said they were banned? |
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Posted: 10/18/2024 11:25:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: If it's an SBR with a stock I believe it's okay, which is what she has there. USPSA has issues with braced PCCs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By CleverNickname: I thought DNROI got a bug in his ass over those and said they were banned? Read page 10: https://uspsa.org/magazine/view//2024-09#page=10 He mentions the brace but then says that with a stock it still wouldn't be USPSA-legal. |
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Posted: 10/18/2024 11:46:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CleverNickname: Read page 10: https://uspsa.org/magazine/view//2024-09#page=10 He mentions the brace but then says that with a stock it still wouldn't be USPSA-legal. https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitionShooting/comments/1erlamt/flux_raider_turned_down_by_troy/ Seems most there agree he's not following their own rules, and that if it's an SBR and you don't use the front mag carrier, it's legal by their current rulebook. |
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Posted: 10/19/2024 12:01:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eric802: Here’s a pretty humble submission. FM9 upper with Endomag. Sight is an old (like mid-90’s) OKO dot I had lying around. Runs like a top and, broken down, fits in my laptop bag. Thinking about getting a folding stock adapter for it, since then it’d fit in just about any case/backpack I have without breaking it down. Might not be much but with a couple mags, there aren’t many problems I’m likely to encounter that 60 rounds of 9mm can’t fix. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2207/IMG_0254-3344138.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2207/IMG_0255-3344139.jpg An OKO!! I still have mine and I LOVE that thing. Wish it was still made. |
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Posted: 10/19/2024 12:07:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: CleverNickname]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: I'm not making an account on their site 😂 , but I assume it's the same thing from Troy as this Reddit discussion? https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitionShooting/comments/1erlamt/flux_raider_turned_down_by_troy/ Seems most there agree he's not following their own rules, and that if it's an SBR and you don't use the front mag carrier, it's legal by their current rulebook. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By CleverNickname: Read page 10: https://uspsa.org/magazine/view//2024-09#page=10 He mentions the brace but then says that with a stock it still wouldn't be USPSA-legal. https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitionShooting/comments/1erlamt/flux_raider_turned_down_by_troy/ Seems most there agree he's not following their own rules, and that if it's an SBR and you don't use the front mag carrier, it's legal by their current rulebook. Yeah pretty much the same. The reason I asked was because Troy should be at PCC Nationals. So either he changed his mind, or didn't tell chrono to not DQ those during equipment check (and they just read the rulebook as written). |
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Posted: 10/19/2024 7:36:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steve8140: I’ve been playing with the Raider X and so far I’ve been very happy with it. Quick to deploy, easy to handle and get follow up shots. Biggest thing to get used to is reloads and remembering the spare mag is in the front grip vs reaching for a belt or pocket like most handguns and rifles. I can easily conceal this under a jacket with 17 or 21 round mags so it should make for some fun trips this fall and winter. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/223734/IMG_9612_jpeg-3352902.JPG My one gripe about the raider is that its not as easy to shoot as an mp5k at either speed or distance. But its a really outstanding gun, for sure. |
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Posted: 10/19/2024 10:47:29 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: My one gripe about the raider is that its not as easy to shoot as an mp5k at either speed or distance. But it’s a really outstanding gun, for sure. I agree that the MP5 platform is easier, but it’s a lot longer, heavier and depending on the stock or brace you’re using it’s much thicker when folded. It’s a sacrifice but with a little practice not a big one. |
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Posted: 10/20/2024 5:21:02 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steve8140: I’ve been playing with the Raider X and so far I’ve been very happy with it. Quick to deploy, easy to handle and get follow up shots. Biggest thing to get used to is reloads and remembering the spare mag is in the front grip vs reaching for a belt or pocket like most handguns and rifles. I can easily conceal this under a jacket with 17 or 21 round mags so it should make for some fun trips this fall and winter. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/223734/IMG_9612_jpeg-3352902.JPG Sweet rig..........what sling are you using? |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2024 5:41:08 PM EST
[#41]
Got 3 boxes of Winchester Ranger T 357SIG and filled 6 22rd Glock magazines last night. Put the 357 barrel in my Recover Tactical Glock 35, and while I doubt it’s as hard hitting as the Underwood Lehighs, no one will say “Please sir, can I have some more?” if I have to deploy this out of my car.
AR15 pistol uppers in x39 and 300 are getting finished with muzzle devices tomorrow. Then it’s time for testing, 123gr FMJ in the x39, 110gr VMAX in the 300. In the event that both are reliable, the 300 will probably be my truck gun since the smaller profile fits in my backpack better. Next up is a chest rig. Thinking RDRGear or Unobtanium or Haley. |
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Posted: 10/20/2024 5:53:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: steve8140]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Sweet rig..........what sling are you using? It’s an Edgar Sherman Design. He’s a local guy and a member of my club. Several shops including Sig Academy sell his gear. It’s very light and built well. Very happy with it. Edgar Sherman Design sling You can add whatever type of swivel or other hardware to it. |
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Posted: 10/20/2024 6:28:34 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steve8140: It’s an Edgar Sherman Design. He’s a local guy and a member of my club. Several shops including Sig Academy sell his gear. It’s very light and built well. Very happy with it. Edgar Sherman Design sling You can add whatever type of swivel or other hardware to it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steve8140: Originally Posted By cyclone: Sweet rig..........what sling are you using? It’s an Edgar Sherman Design. He’s a local guy and a member of my club. Several shops including Sig Academy sell his gear. It’s very light and built well. Very happy with it. Edgar Sherman Design sling You can add whatever type of swivel or other hardware to it. Thanks for the link |
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Posted: 10/20/2024 6:35:06 PM EST
[#44]
P320 in B&T chassis is pretty damn perfect. Barely bigger than a full size pistol, 21 or 30rds of RA9T and a short 9mm can and you are good to go.
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Posted: 10/20/2024 6:36:04 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nmxdavenn: I think this is my favorite setup for this role. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/478694/740201448_744666public_jpeg-3242231.JPG Plus people know not to fuck with you if you are willing to play Russian roulette by using a sig. |
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AK, USA
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Posted: 10/20/2024 6:47:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: feetpiece]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexCorriente: Any consensus on the very best available, money-is-no-object, PDW? Factors to consider, in descending order of importance: 1. Reliability 2. Concealability 3. Lethality >Barrier blind >Effective range A dead-nuts reliable MP5-K in 357 Sig with factory support is my conceptual ideal pdw. An SBR'd G24 in a USW chassis is what you seek |
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Posted: 10/20/2024 7:05:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steve8140: It's an Edgar Sherman Design. He's a local guy and a member of my club. Several shops including Sig Academy sell his gear. It's very light and built well. Very happy with it. Edgar Sherman Design sling You can add whatever type of swivel or other hardware to it. |
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Posted: 10/20/2024 7:23:41 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: If it's an SBR with a stock I believe it's okay, which is what she has there. USPSA has issues with braced PCCs. Renegade matches FTW!!! |
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Posted: 10/20/2024 7:29:35 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jt526: P320 in B&T chassis is pretty damn perfect. Barely bigger than a full size pistol, 21 or 30rds of RA9T and a short 9mm can and you are good to go. I will say, as someone who has had an open emitter RDS freeze over on the back side of the lens and emitter, you will want to treat these as a rifle in terms of optics-closed emitter only. This is something that you never experience with a carry gun under clothes, but in near freezing temps on a foggy, sleety night you might find your gun to be totally worthless until taken inside and thawed out. |
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Posted: 10/21/2024 9:16:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: TexCorriente]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feetpiece: An SBR'd G24 in a USW chassis is what you seek After much deliberation, I'm going this route. I've already got an unloved G17 Ordering/ have ordered: G24 slide G24 extended, threaded 357 sig conversion barrel from Bar-Sto (also less expensive 9mm and .40 barrels) Probably a conversion brace for the USW-G vs the SBR route USW-G17 (backordered, the wait begins) |
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