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Posted: 6/22/2024 8:03:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lokifox: This thread reminded me that I need a set of 5.7 dies. |
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Posted: 6/22/2024 9:13:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lokifox: This thread reminded me that I need a set of 5.7 dies. Off to the internet. You should get a FiveseveN Forum account so you can peruse the reloading section. A member there has done a ton of pressure testing to find ‘max’ with powders and projectiles. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:16:03 AM EST
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Got it last night and “assembled” today.
Seems well made and finished, controls are easy, size is very small. Haven’t shot it cause I don’t have any macro mags yet. Whoops. Also going to need a threaded barrel if I want to use with my can. This is for size comparison. Rattler is an SBR and 5.5” barrel. AR is a 14.5” and feels like a long boi in comparison.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:21:17 AM EST
[#4]
Damn thats crazy small.
I didnt think I wanted a 365 flux but with that size comparison and the hilarious flux marketing I may reconsider…. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:48:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: Got it last night and “assembled” today. Seems well made and finished, controls are easy, size is very small. Haven’t shot it cause I don’t have any macro mags yet. Whoops. Also going to need a threaded barrel if I want to use with my can. This is for size comparison. Rattler is an SBR and 5.5” barrel. AR is a 14.5” and feels like a long boi in comparison. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7242_jpeg-3248613.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7243_jpeg-3248614.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7244_jpeg-3248615.JPG Dang, that stock/brace needs a trifold. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 11:21:42 AM EST
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Another thing to buy. It's all so tiresome.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 12:40:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: CFletch]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: Got it last night and "assembled" today. Seems well made and finished, controls are easy, size is very small. Haven't shot it cause I don't have any macro mags yet. Whoops. Also going to need a threaded barrel if I want to use with my can. This is for size comparison. Rattler is an SBR and 5.5" barrel. AR is a 14.5" and feels like a long boi in comparison. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7242_jpeg-3248613.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7243_jpeg-3248614.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7244_jpeg-3248615.JPG It is looking more and more tempting. I signed up for notification when they are back in stock. I have a P365xl with threaded barrel I don't carry often anymore that'd be perfect to swap over to a Raider. Did the chassis come with the barrel cover thing? If it does, would you mind measuring the width of that thing for me? I'm wondering if a slim 1.1" DA Odessa can would fit in the Flux holster, which seems to fit the chassis with the barrel shroud attached. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 6:41:44 PM EST
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Have a ps90 & CZ scorp. Really interested in the PSA x57 once it’s released & any bugs are worked out
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Posted: 6/23/2024 7:07:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFletch: how much clearance is there is for a wider can? Would something like a DA Wolfman (1.618" diameter) fit? It is looking more and more tempting. I signed up for notification when they are back in stock. I have a P365xl with threaded barrel I don't carry often anymore that'd be perfect to swap over to a Raider. Did the chassis come with the barrel cover thing? If it does, would you mind measuring the width of that thing for me? I'm wondering if a slim 1.1" DA Odessa can would fit in the Flux holster, which seems to fit the chassis with the barrel shroud attached. Sure thing I’ll get some pics in the morning. It came with the shroud too. |
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Posted: 6/23/2024 9:46:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: Glck1911]
[#10]
Finished my Rattler in .300 Blackout last week and it’s already my favorite gun. I got it to be PDW on trips, but there is Just something about it that makes it an absolute hoot to shoot.
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Posted: 6/23/2024 10:09:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glck1911: Finished my Rattler in .300 Blackout last week and it’s already my favorite gun. I got it to be PDW on trips, but there is Just something about it that makes it an absolute hoot to shoot. Same here. Originally got the Rattler for straight utility as a PDW, was pleasantly surprised the first time I took it to the range. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 12:25:14 AM EST
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What muzzle device are you guys running on those short AR's?
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Posted: 6/24/2024 6:41:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By f402mech: Same here. Originally got the Rattler for straight utility as a PDW, was pleasantly surprised the first time I took it to the range. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By f402mech: Originally Posted By Glck1911: Finished my Rattler in .300 Blackout last week and it’s already my favorite gun. I got it to be PDW on trips, but there is Just something about it that makes it an absolute hoot to shoot. Same here. Originally got the Rattler for straight utility as a PDW, was pleasantly surprised the first time I took it to the range. I started with the Virtus 11.5” 5.56, then got more barrels and eventually snagged a rattler too. The Virtus with a 6.75” 300blk barrel, cgs hyperion suppressor and sd rail is my favorite gun.  But having something similar but smaller with the rattler is great. Almost impossible to beat the rattler if you want a rifle that can be transported discretely. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 6:44:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Southernman077: I have an MP5k in a laptop bag. I have a tritium front sight and a surefire X300u mounted on it. I also have two 30rd mags clamped together and two spare 30s in the laptop bag. I hope that is enough. That will be enough to run off the amateurs. The cops who show up to arrest the white supremacist shooter will be tougher to hold off. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 7:01:15 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: But having something similar but smaller with the rattler is great. Almost impossible to beat the rattler if you want a rifle that can be transported discretely. This is why I got it, and for a “house gun” since even suppressed it’s shorter than an 11” sbr. Also wanted shortest OAL with AR controls. Stuff like the tavor is short but I’ve been shooting ARs for 2 decades and wanted to not have to think in an emergency. Ended up being a good call when there was an active shooter murdering cops on my front yard. My brain went mostly blank till I realized what happened and grabbed the rattler. I do remember thinking “man I wish my can cleared if I have to set this off indoors” but thankfully never came to that. Now I’m a fan of lots of power in small packages. These kinds of PDWs travel well in non-obvious bags which is helpful if you actually carry them. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 7:54:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFletch: how much clearance is there is for a wider can? Would something like a DA Wolfman (1.618" diameter) fit? It is looking more and more tempting. I signed up for notification when they are back in stock. I have a P365xl with threaded barrel I don't carry often anymore that'd be perfect to swap over to a Raider. Did the chassis come with the barrel cover thing? If it does, would you mind measuring the width of that thing for me? I'm wondering if a slim 1.1" DA Odessa can would fit in the Flux holster, which seems to fit the chassis with the barrel shroud attached. @CFletch Here are some pics I took. Tried to go from center of barrel to closest metal for that wolf man. If you’re OK shortening the rail or trimming it back I think it should fit no problem.  Attached FileShroud ID at narrowest point  Attached FileHow much rail you’re working with  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 7:56:49 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ordkhntr: What muzzle device are you guys running on those short AR's? Phoenix Moderator |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 8:41:13 AM EST
[Last Edit: Zip196]
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: Originally Posted By ordkhntr: What muzzle device are you guys running on those short AR's? Phoenix Moderator @tortilla-flats or anyone who might know. Does the Phoenix knock down flash at all? My little Commado SBR is blinding. Fun but holy shit! eta I see the 4.5 incher but that is what my FH looks like. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 8:54:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zip196: @tortilla-flats or anyone who might know. Does the Phoenix knock down flash at all? My little Commado SBR is blinding. Fun but holy shit! eta I see the 4.5 incher but that is what my FH looks like. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 9:05:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: @CFletch Here are some pics I took. Tried to go from center of barrel to closest metal for that wolf man. If you're OK shortening the rail or trimming it back I think it should fit no problem. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7245_jpeg-3249348.JPG Shroud ID at narrowest point https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7246_jpeg-3249349.JPG How much rail you're working with https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7248_jpeg-3249350.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: Originally Posted By CFletch: how much clearance is there is for a wider can? Would something like a DA Wolfman (1.618" diameter) fit? It is looking more and more tempting. I signed up for notification when they are back in stock. I have a P365xl with threaded barrel I don't carry often anymore that'd be perfect to swap over to a Raider. Did the chassis come with the barrel cover thing? If it does, would you mind measuring the width of that thing for me? I'm wondering if a slim 1.1" DA Odessa can would fit in the Flux holster, which seems to fit the chassis with the barrel shroud attached. @CFletch Here are some pics I took. Tried to go from center of barrel to closest metal for that wolf man. If you're OK shortening the rail or trimming it back I think it should fit no problem. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7245_jpeg-3249348.JPG Shroud ID at narrowest point https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7246_jpeg-3249349.JPG How much rail you're working with https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_7248_jpeg-3249350.JPG |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 9:17:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: I started with the Virtus 11.5” 5.56, then got more barrels and eventually snagged a rattler too. The Virtus with a 6.75” 300blk barrel, cgs hyperion suppressor and sd rail is my favorite gun. https://i.imgur.com/ZxhNwR8.jpeg But having something similar but smaller with the rattler is great. Almost impossible to beat the rattler if you want a rifle that can be transported discretely. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Originally Posted By f402mech: Originally Posted By Glck1911: Finished my Rattler in .300 Blackout last week and it’s already my favorite gun. I got it to be PDW on trips, but there is Just something about it that makes it an absolute hoot to shoot. Same here. Originally got the Rattler for straight utility as a PDW, was pleasantly surprised the first time I took it to the range. I started with the Virtus 11.5” 5.56, then got more barrels and eventually snagged a rattler too. The Virtus with a 6.75” 300blk barrel, cgs hyperion suppressor and sd rail is my favorite gun. https://i.imgur.com/ZxhNwR8.jpeg But having something similar but smaller with the rattler is great. Almost impossible to beat the rattler if you want a rifle that can be transported discretely. Agreed. While not the greatest can in the world, I have a Resonator K direct threaded to the Rattler and the whole package fits in a small 21L Northface backpack. |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 11:13:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: Originally Posted By ordkhntr: What muzzle device are you guys running on those short AR's? Phoenix Moderator |
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Posted: 6/24/2024 11:52:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ordkhntr: I can certainly see that a supressor would be best. Does anyone still use something like the Noveske k3? ETA: Here's a build I did with a Remington contract overrun 11.5" barrel. 
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Posted: 6/25/2024 3:32:33 PM EST
[#24]
Welp, just bought a 5.56 Rattler.
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Posted: 6/25/2024 3:49:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Welp, just bought a 5.56 Rattler.  |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 7:25:42 PM EST
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And Sig just dropped a "full-size" P365. The Fuse. Hmmm. That with a Raider...
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Posted: 6/25/2024 7:29:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: Kharn]
[#27]
When are the (Shrike?) Glock FCUs shown at Shot going to come out?
I have no interest in shooting myself in the ass, so I'm not getting a Sig, and Flux seems to have dropped Glock support. At least the Glock FCUs have a chance of a PDW chassis. Kharn |
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Posted: 6/25/2024 9:51:38 PM EST
[#28]
This is a great thread
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Posted: 6/26/2024 5:57:35 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: And Sig just dropped a "full-size" P365. The Fuse. Hmmm. That with a Raider... yeah I saw that.... May wait for the price to drop down to "normal" 365 levels, but that longer slide and mags would be perfect for the Raidr. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:33:40 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ebolinux: This is a great thread Thanks, hope people find it useful. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:37:14 AM EST
[#31]
So, a general thought experiment on pdws….
I’m driving 400+ miles each way on a road trip next week with my boys. Staying both at hotels and with family. Going to be gone from home for a week. I already have my answer, but thought this might help people in the decision making phase of which pdw to get…which one would you be taking on that trip, the raider or the rattler? 
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Posted: 6/26/2024 8:43:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Welp, just bought a 5.56 Rattler. So to expand on this dumbass idea: I already own a Virtus upper/lower with multiple barrels, plus a rattler upper in 300blk. I was considering building out a lower to use with the conversion kit so the rattler upper would have a dedicated home. Then I found this video about running a cmmg .22 conversion kit in a 5.56 rattler.  5.56 Sig Rattler Converted to .22LR So I bought a full 5.56 rattler. Will sbr the lower so I can use either the rattler stuff or virtus stuff on either, but i will be shooting the .22 conversion rattler in Steel Challenge later this summer. I’m a firm believer that practice>gear and the idea of getting to practice with the rattler at 22 ammo costs instead of 300blk costs appeals greatly. Plus I already hit A class in PPCI in steel challenge using a stock iron sight MP5 clone so I’d love to push A or better with a .22 rattler just for the hell of it. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:12:52 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: So to expand on this dumbass idea: I already own a Virtus upper/lower with multiple barrels, plus a rattler upper in 300blk. I was considering building out a lower to use with the conversion kit so the rattler upper would have a dedicated home. Then I found this video about running a cmmg .22 conversion kit in a 5.56 rattler.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uISqZzrhflwSo I bought a full 5.56 rattler. Will sbr the lower so I can use either the rattler stuff or virtus stuff on either, but i will be shooting the .22 conversion rattler in Steel Challenge later this summer. I’m a firm believer that practice>gear and the idea of getting to practice with the rattler at 22 ammo costs instead of 300blk costs appeals greatly. Plus I already hit A class in PPCI in steel challenge using a stock iron sight MP5 clone so I’d love to push A or better with a .22 rattler just for the hell of it. I didn’t know there was a 22 conversion for the Sigs? |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:15:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: cyclone]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Will probably come out right after the PSA MP5. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Originally Posted By CFletch: cool as the Flux is, I'm hoping the PSA X57 or whatever they are calling it comes out soonish and is good Will probably come out right after the PSA MP5. Supposedly 1st qtr 2025.......I plan on getting one if possible. That and the DOE 9mm clone are my next purchases |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:16:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: cyclone]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Will probably come out right after the PSA MP5. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Originally Posted By CFletch: cool as the Flux is, I'm hoping the PSA X57 or whatever they are calling it comes out soonish and is good Will probably come out right after the PSA MP5. Double tap |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 9:46:58 AM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: I didn’t know there was a 22 conversion for the Sigs? Video says more but illumined arms makes a kit to make the cmmgAR kit run in the mcx. Ill let you know how it runs. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 10:40:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: So, a general thought experiment on pdws…. I’m driving 400+ miles each way on a road trip next week with my boys. Staying both at hotels and with family. Going to be gone from home for a week. I already have my answer, but thought this might help people in the decision making phase of which pdw to get…which one would you be taking on that trip, the raider or the rattler? https://i.imgur.com/jGyYT5Z.jpeg 1. Are you going out of state? 2. Is the raider considered a brace? If the answer to 1 is yes and the answer to 2 is yes, then to play it safe I'd go with the raider. If the answer to 1 is no, rattler all day. Option 3 is do whatever you feel necessary to keep you and yours safe; We do not obey tyrants. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 10:59:42 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: So, a general thought experiment on pdws…. I’m driving 400+ miles each way on a road trip next week with my boys. Staying both at hotels and with family. Going to be gone from home for a week. I already have my answer, but thought this might help people in the decision making phase of which pdw to get…which one would you be taking on that trip, the raider or the rattler? https://i.imgur.com/jGyYT5Z.jpeg Not enough information. For example, if my road trip includes a National Park, then I can carry a braced pistol on NPS land because I'm licensed to carry in states where I have family. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:35:27 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: So, a general thought experiment on pdws…. I’m driving 400+ miles each way on a road trip next week with my boys. Staying both at hotels and with family. Going to be gone from home for a week. I already have my answer, but thought this might help people in the decision making phase of which pdw to get…which one would you be taking on that trip, the raider or the rattler? https://i.imgur.com/jGyYT5Z.jpeg Both pistols? The Rattler. Taking an SBR across state lines can be really annoying |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:54:39 AM EST
[#40]
Yall, I’m in Texas. Breaking stupid laws by crossing invisible lines is not a factor in the question.
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:56:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: Headspacer]
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: And Sig just dropped a "full-size" P365. The Fuse. Hmmm. That with a Raider... Sig timing the market.... https://www.sigsauer.com/p320-flux-legion.html   Meet SIG's Version of the FLUX Raider: The NEW P320 Flux Legion |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 11:57:09 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74novaman: Yall, I’m in Texas. Breaking stupid laws by crossing invisible lines is not a factor in the question. well, the Rattler then, duh
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Posted: 6/26/2024 3:54:50 PM EST
[#43]
So, what sort of discrete "laptop" bags can fit a PDW/Rattler/Mini-PCC?
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Posted: 6/26/2024 4:27:23 PM EST
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Posted: 6/27/2024 8:09:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: rDigital]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Postal0311: So, what sort of discrete "laptop" bags can fit a PDW/Rattler/Mini-PCC? Cannot be opened from the back, so offers some retention security in that respect. It's also has a place to put a lock on the zipper. Tiny. Also has usb charging.  Attached FileHolds SP5k, MPX-K and rattler w/o suppressor attached perfectly. EDIT: Sidefolding braces required! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y28RKGG?tag=arfcom00-20 |
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Posted: 6/27/2024 9:47:21 AM EST
[#46]
If I am going to carry something off-body, it's going to be my rattler. Otherwise I'm EDCing.
The Flux p365 intrigues me as it's small enough I could conceal it on-body and it's something small, light, and stable enough my wife could even get hits with given she has SI joint, knee, and hand strength issues that makes managing recoil on pistols painful for her and makes supporting heavier rifles also painful for her. |
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Posted: 6/27/2024 9:53:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bayouhazard: Not enough information. For example, if my road trip includes a National Park, then I can carry a braced pistol on NPS land because I'm licensed to carry in states where I have family. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bayouhazard: Originally Posted By 74novaman: So, a general thought experiment on pdws…. I’m driving 400+ miles each way on a road trip next week with my boys. Staying both at hotels and with family. Going to be gone from home for a week. I already have my answer, but thought this might help people in the decision making phase of which pdw to get…which one would you be taking on that trip, the raider or the rattler? https://i.imgur.com/jGyYT5Z.jpeg Not enough information. For example, if my road trip includes a National Park, then I can carry a braced pistol on NPS land because I'm licensed to carry in states where I have family. You can carry on NPS land regardless (per all local laws, of course). |
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Posted: 6/27/2024 10:24:07 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rDigital: Cannot be opened from the back, so offers some retention security in that respect. It's also has a place to put a lock on the zipper. Tiny. Also has usb charging. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/243675/Screenshot_2024-06-27_090756_png-3251783.JPG Holds SP5k, MPX-K and rattler w/o suppressor attached perfectly. EDIT: Sidefolding braces required! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y28RKGG?tag=arfcom00-20 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rDigital: Originally Posted By Postal0311: So, what sort of discrete "laptop" bags can fit a PDW/Rattler/Mini-PCC? Cannot be opened from the back, so offers some retention security in that respect. It's also has a place to put a lock on the zipper. Tiny. Also has usb charging. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/243675/Screenshot_2024-06-27_090756_png-3251783.JPG Holds SP5k, MPX-K and rattler w/o suppressor attached perfectly. EDIT: Sidefolding braces required! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y28RKGG?tag=arfcom00-20 @rDigital I carry my rattler in my kid's old backpack from when he was in kindergarten. It's not out of place at all stuffed under his seat in the minivan or slogging through hotel lobbies, as who hasn't seen a slightly grumpy chubby dad sick of carrying his kid's shit around? part of the reason I like Flux and Rattlers. Many "discreet" bags don't look discreet at all to anyone paying the least bit of attention. The race car themed baby bag is actual grey man in my context. |
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Posted: 6/27/2024 10:26:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcw107: Seems like PCC/braced pistols has become synonymous with PDW. Not a knock. I have a bunch. I like them. We've fooled with these and they can be very handy but if you have access to real PDWs they take a backseat quickly. |
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Posted: 6/27/2024 10:31:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headspacer: Sig timing the market.... https://www.sigsauer.com/p320-flux-legion.html https://www.sigsauer.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2f7933e2ff16f0ec074a16ab6b6195f2/f/l/flux-extended.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h7QQtmIzBUQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Headspacer: Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: And Sig just dropped a "full-size" P365. The Fuse. Hmmm. That with a Raider... Sig timing the market.... https://www.sigsauer.com/p320-flux-legion.html https://www.sigsauer.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2f7933e2ff16f0ec074a16ab6b6195f2/f/l/flux-extended.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h7QQtmIzBUI didn't need to see that |
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