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Posted: 10/31/2022 6:22:27 PM EDT
[#1]
I just finished watching the part with the tanks and the flamethrowers...
The wheels of one of those tanks look strangely like the road wheels on a BMP. I wonder if that was the base vehicle |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 6:43:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just figured flamethrowers were shitty back then. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Liked seeing the French tanks. I never saw those in a movie before. The flamethrower scene seemed fake. I just figured flamethrowers were shitty back then. Pretty much all flamethrower shots are fake as hell, they use propane/gas vapor or something similar instead of a gas/oil/diesel mixture of some sort that is liquid. Liquid is far more nasty as it sticks to you unlike a gas does. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 7:02:13 PM EDT
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Brutal. Very different from the two more famous versions.
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Posted: 10/31/2022 7:15:37 PM EDT
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The complete callousness of the Prussians toward life, even Germans, is incomprehensible.
Yet true. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 7:36:23 PM EDT
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I'm German, so right off I noticed a bit of the translation in parts was off, but whatever.
Overall it was ok, but nothing epic. Seemed like after their deployment is was just skipping them around random places and then there was a battle. I wish they would have showed more 'daily life' or dumb bullshit that illustrated the reason they were at this stage of the war, etc. I don't know, but it was just really missing something to really grab your attention. The scenery was very well done however. The one thing that was a subtle theme throughout, and is very far from obvious from many people, especially this generation, is that due to the lack of cell phones, the internet and media that isn't just issued state propaganda, you can literally have people believing anything. I remember Oma telling me that during WW2, the people who were around for WW1 now believed absolutely NOTHING positive about any reports of the war over the radio or newspapers. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 7:41:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically a family dispute that cost the lives of millions and then set the ground work for a second war that resulted in the loss of even more people. The USA should have never been involved, Woodrow Wilson was basically the Devil incarnate. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 7:48:47 PM EDT
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I finished it last night. I enjoyed it, and like others have said here, it was loosely based on the book.
I thought it was missing too much from the book for such a titled movie. Nonetheless I enjoyed it. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 8:09:44 PM EDT
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Meh, I must be getting jaded. It didn't seem any different or better from the other iterations of the book or any other war movie nowadays. "War is bad, mmm-kay" is kind of a worn out phrase.
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Posted: 10/31/2022 8:11:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I finished it last night. I enjoyed it, and like others have said here, it was loosely based on the book. I thought it was missing too much from the book for such a titled movie. Nonetheless I enjoyed it. I think they should have not used the title All Quiet on the Western Front but named it something else and just made it a World War I movie |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 8:27:10 PM EDT
[#10]
I wish someone would make a movie about Belleau Woods.
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Posted: 10/31/2022 8:38:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish someone would make a movie about Belleau Woods. https://www.historycrunch.com/uploads/4/1/1/6/41169839/usa-ww1-belleau-wood_1.jpg https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Marines-Belleau-Wood.jpg https://article-imgs.scribdassets.com/1seso1i9kw6pqf2s/images/fileCH749JVD.jpg https://www.vnews.com/getattachment/dd010bd8-b1fa-43d8-96a2-f2233664ba5b/Johnson-BelleauWood-091320-ph02 Yes |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 8:47:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Brutal movie, the last offensive after the armistice was signed was completely needless.
The armistice negotiations were pretty interesting. Ferdinand Foch wanted to dick Germany as much as possible. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 8:51:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mostly this. It depicts the horrors of trench warfare and is gritty. I read the book and watched the 70's film with Jon Boy. Those are better, IMHO. I think the ending of this was not as good. Many lives wasted for nothing at the end of the movie is fine. But the other versions had it not only wasted at the end, but entirely random, which I felt was important. I have never seen the 1930's version Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This movie should not have been associated with All Quiet On The Western Front...it would be better as a standalone movie. Call it "1918" or something. I was expecting a more vivid depiction of the original novel, and I was very disappointed. As it was, I found it slow and boring, but mesmerizing but I had to watch it. Mostly this. It depicts the horrors of trench warfare and is gritty. I read the book and watched the 70's film with Jon Boy. Those are better, IMHO. I think the ending of this was not as good. Many lives wasted for nothing at the end of the movie is fine. But the other versions had it not only wasted at the end, but entirely random, which I felt was important. I have never seen the 1930's version Same here, except I have seen the 1930 version. This one doesn’t stand up to the earlier versions, and changing the ending was horrible. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 8:58:58 PM EDT
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Out of 10, 10 being the highest rating, I will give it a 6.......
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:01:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Production wise it seems pretty good just started watching it. The music though completely out of place and not very good Just finished watching it. For a Netflix film, the production quality was pretty darn good. Yes, the music was a bit weird, as if they spent the entire budget on the production and only had $114.33 left to score it. It's a downer of a movie but I guess that's the point. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:05:52 PM EDT
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As an aside, the older I get and more I understand about WWI, the more I think "FUCK World War I. Fuck all of it. Fuck everything."
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:10:32 PM EDT
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My poor old grandpa made it home from that. He was crazy as heck. God bless you grandad. I hope your burden is gone.
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Posted: 10/31/2022 9:44:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My poor old grandpa made it home from that. He was crazy as heck. God bless you grandad. I hope your burden is gone. My great grandpa Roy was a WW1 vet...he carried alot in his kit bag until he died. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:24:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As an aside, the older I get and more I understand about WWI, the more I think "FUCK World War I. Fuck all of it. Fuck everything." The Spanish Flu of 1918 had as much to do with ending the war as any of the stubborn assholes that started it. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:28:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Production wise it seems pretty good just started watching it. The music though completely out of place and not very good Music? The tunes the soldiers were signing? You mean the score? The score is just sound to illicit an emotion. I think you got the point though, was supposed to make it seem so surreal and UNnatural. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:31:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought it was a good movie with a high realism factor introducing elements I hadn't seen in previous WW1 movies. Very depressing, but any war movie that isn't depressing is a fairytale. What I gathered from reading this thread: -- A lot of ADD and inability to comprehend a storyline. "Need non-stop action!" -- "It wasn't EXACTLY like the 94 year old book Ive never read. Fuck this garbage!" -- "The ominous background sounds [not music] aren't period correct for 1917 Silent Films. Needs more Player Piano!" Not surprisingly, few of the folks here know how to watch a film. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:33:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wasn't so much referring to that, but people screaming/running after taking a direct blast of flame. It would suck the air out of you, you would be DRT. Most killed by flamethrowers were killed by carbon monoxide, basically go to sleep without any burns at all. That is strangely reassuring, thank you. |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 10:57:26 PM EDT
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An older but truly Great WW1 movie is Stanley Kubrick's "Paths Of Glory" with Kirk Douglas. From the 50's & shot in B&W.
It is set in the French Army in the Western Front of WW1. Combines some bloody combat + courtroom drama resulting from that bloody combat. Bigger_Hammer  |
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:08:05 PM EDT
[#24]
Restarted it tonight. Trick or treaters are getting less and less. Watching it in German.
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:48:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wasn't so much referring to that, but people screaming/running after taking a direct blast of flame. It would suck the air out of you, you would be DRT. Most killed by flamethrowers were killed by carbon monoxide, basically go to sleep without any burns at all. My dad was on a flamethrower team in the Pacific with the 2nd Marines. What little he talked about seemed to indicate he still had visions of Japanese soldiers instantly burned to a crisp in many cases. As an aside, dad said they called the jellied fuel glop. As another aside, my grandfather fought in WW1. Got mildly gassed in a mustard gas attack. Messed his lungs up for life. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 12:14:36 AM EDT
[#26]
Wasn't that same ominous sound used in a Futurama episode?
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Posted: 11/1/2022 8:18:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just finished watching it. For a Netflix film, the production quality was pretty darn good. Yes, the music was a bit weird, as if they spent the entire budget on the production and only had $114.33 left to score it. It's a downer of a movie but I guess that's the point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Production wise it seems pretty good just started watching it. The music though completely out of place and not very good Just finished watching it. For a Netflix film, the production quality was pretty darn good. Yes, the music was a bit weird, as if they spent the entire budget on the production and only had $114.33 left to score it. It's a downer of a movie but I guess that's the point. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 9:28:25 PM EDT
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I watched today while I was working. An advantage of having 3 screens. It kept my interest for the whole 2 hours, instead of fast forwarding through like I do with most movies. I think the movie was supposed to show the stupiduty of most soldiers, mindlessly following commands. Launching an assault with 15 minutes to go before the armistice to take affect, really, who would do that? I was never in the military so my mindset does not think that way. The music did not fit the movie. I kept wanting to watch the wrath of man again for the 3rd or 4th time.
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Posted: 11/1/2022 9:39:24 PM EDT
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I'm not sure which movie was better, this or 1917. This one really pulled you in to the story and the main character, but 1917 had some sequences and shots that were absolutely incredible, like the last ten minutes or so when he reaches the front line trench. It's one of the best sequences I've ever seen.
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Posted: 11/1/2022 9:40:59 PM EDT
[#30]
I thought it was a decent WW1 movie with lots of G98 action. When that general ordered them to do that last attack I was waiting for him to be shot by his own men. They missed an opportunity there.
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:08:15 PM EDT
[#31]
Watched in German with subs.
Music made it seem like a guy ritchie film. Woulda killed the farm boy. Woulda killed the occifer and his crew for going back to the lines with 30 minutes to spare. But, as the war was, old guys didn't fight, they just sent others to die. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:19:42 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just finished watching the part with the tanks and the flamethrowers... The wheels of one of those tanks look strangely like the road wheels on a BMP. I wonder if that was the base vehicle Pretty good recreation of a Saint Chamond tank |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:31:47 PM EDT
[#33]
If it were a stand alone it might be better receiver. Being stacked up against two prior versions it's 3rd place
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:35:56 PM EDT
[#34]
For anyone interested, Youtube Movies has the full 1979 version for free:
 All Quiet On The Western Front |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:39:25 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As the Kaiser began to run out of able bodied men late into the war soft drafts began in schools. There was an infamous offensive where tens of thousands of 17-20 year old kids died for no real military objective. seeing the next generation slaughtered turned public sentiment against the war. I believe that loss of life and corresponding will essentially stopped German offensive operations. Horribly sad. Movie made my stomach churn. In all human history there’s never been such a singular place where men went to die. For the profit of other men. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:42:32 PM EDT
[#36]
A few years back I was reading some of my Wife's genealogy. One of her relatives was over there.
He talked about going out on patrol in no man's land at night. He said when they bumped into another patrol they would immediately go to the dirt and start feeling for the boots of the people they ran into. The Germans had Hobnail boots. He also said he tried to be the first to search a dead German because they always had Honey and fresh Tomatoes in their mess kits. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:49:34 PM EDT
[#37]
Was it just me or was there a lot emphasis on eating. Not just the soldiers but the politicians too.
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:51:07 PM EDT
[#38]
Watched it last night and really enjoyed it. Had to pull the tank scene up again today on youtube and watch it a few more times! WOW!
I've not read the books or seen the original version. I had a hard time understanding who was who. So I'm asking...who was who? The boys it followed were Germans? The signers of the armistice, the nicer, normal dressed was representing what country? Sorry to be so dumb, but I never really understood. |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:59:03 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I watched today while I was working. An advantage of having 3 screens. It kept my interest for the whole 2 hours, instead of fast forwarding through like I do with most movies. I think the movie was supposed to show the stupiduty of most soldiers, mindlessly following commands. Launching an assault with 15 minutes to go before the armistice to take affect, really, who would do that? I was never in the military so my mindset does not think that way. The music did not fit the movie. I kept wanting to watch the wrath of man again for the 3rd or 4th time. I suggest you look up the Great War channels episode for November 11th... they did a fascinating job of showing the gravity of that day. They went into why there's fighting right up to the end.  Armistice - But Peace? I THE GREAT WAR Week 225 |
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:59:15 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Watched it last night and really enjoyed it. Had to pull the tank scene up again today on youtube and watch it a few more times! WOW! I've not read the books or seen the original version. I had a hard time understanding who was who. So I'm asking...who was who? The boys it followed were Germans? The signers of the armistice, the nicer, normal dressed was representing what country? Sorry to be so dumb, but I never really understood. The book and movies are based on German perspectives. Paul and co, were German kids, as well as armistice guys were German. If you've ever seen Letters from Iwo Jima, it's the same kind of story. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 12:32:12 AM EDT
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From a realism perspective, the one thing that stood out to me (besides the total lack of recoil in the guns) was the lack of any artillery preparation for the assaults. We see one real scene of an artillery attack that’s over pretty fast…there should have been a lot more.
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Posted: 11/4/2022 1:28:00 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it just me or was there a lot emphasis on eating. Not just the soldiers but the politicians too. It’s a luxury of the living. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 1:39:32 AM EDT
[#43]
I just got done watching it, really well done. Grate flic
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Posted: 11/4/2022 1:40:40 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great movie. Watched it the other night. Being a German speaker another interesting thing about the movie was how many of the soldiers had different dialects giving the watcher a insight on their background. I am going to purchase it for my collection. I haven't seen the movie, but historically speaking, there should be very few, if any, dialect variations in a WW1 Imperial German unit, especially below regimental level. Even more so than the British, the Germans were very emphatic that men from the same region served together. Technically, the "German" Army in WW1 actually consisted of the Prussian Army, and a surprisingly large number of state armies that definitely maintained their regional character all the way to the end of the war. Even within the Prussian units, it would be very rare to find, for example, an Alsatian or Pommeranian in a unit based in Brandenburg. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 1:43:27 AM EDT
[#45]
I just watched All Quiet on the Western Front and it was GRITTY. If you liked the film, you have to watch the Russian WWII film, “Come and See.” It’s better and even gritter if you can believe it. There us a scene where an entire village is burned alive in a barn.
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Posted: 11/4/2022 1:44:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can someone give me some context? Were these kids from an ROTC highschool or was this a last ditch draft? In the book the main characters were volunteers from a university with no prior military experience, for dramatic reasons. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 1:45:25 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I still can't help but wonder. Of the million's dead how many brilliant minds could have perhaps cured cancer, created something great for the world but instead were snuffed out in a muddy trench for no real reason. I often think the same thing. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 2:22:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As the Kaiser began to run out of able bodied men late into the war soft drafts began in schools. There was an infamous offensive where tens of thousands of 17-20 year old kids died for no real military objective. seeing the next generation slaughtered turned public sentiment against the war. I believe that loss of life and corresponding will essentially stopped German offensive operations. Horribly sad. Movie made my stomach churn. In all human history there’s never been such a singular place where men went to die. That actually happened at the very beginning of the war - Kindermord von Langemarck. The Nazis later named an SS formation "Langemarck" after the battle. Also, German "public sentiment" never really turned against the war, and the Germans launched a strategic offensive in early 1918 that nearly succeeded. The only reason the Allies didn't have to fight across the Rhine is that the Prussian Army demanded an end to the war before the inevitable destruction on the battlefield. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 2:32:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wish someone would make a movie about Belleau Woods. https://www.historycrunch.com/uploads/4/1/1/6/41169839/usa-ww1-belleau-wood_1.jpg https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Marines-Belleau-Wood.jpg https://article-imgs.scribdassets.com/1seso1i9kw6pqf2s/images/fileCH749JVD.jpg https://www.vnews.com/getattachment/dd010bd8-b1fa-43d8-96a2-f2233664ba5b/Johnson-BelleauWood-091320-ph02 |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 2:35:41 AM EDT
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Imagine still having Netflix in 2022
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