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It looks like an AK, FAL, and AR all had group sex and produced a but ugly offspring.
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Someday you'll be the last man with a gasoline car, milling replacement parts in your garage, an iconoclast sneering and fast, new, ultra reliable electric cars which are no match for the final gasser, a lovingly restored Yugo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Do you REALLY think the people in the market for obscure guns overlap with people who buy bargain basement el cheapo AR's, and will not do so ONLY because you can get shit tier guns cheap? That false dichotomy is silly. I mean, fuck me, I bought a Krag-Jorgensen when I could have bought a cheap AR for the same or less. |
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Quoted: MSRP $1250....when an AR can be put together for $500 View Quote Mike's thread in Retro: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/733475_New-US-made-Leader-T2.html I'm glad they're back on the market, I just don't understand how they can be made profitably. Masterpiece Arms gave up. |
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Sweet, want it bad. Bought one the Masterpiece Arms clones that was a complete turd...
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Armalite tried, no one besides like 5 of us on the AR-180 subfrom wanted them. Then they did whatever shake up happend. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I honestly want one because it is different and would go nicely with my Daewoo K2 and Ruger Mini-14 GB.
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"From my cold, dead hands....."
Except this one, you can have this one.... |
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If a near 40 year old design were to be reintroduced to the American market (and modernized) I would have liked to have seen the Daewoo k2 and variants.
Still wouldn't be cost competitive to the AR, but lets face it, most nothing will be in the same market segment. |
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From one dealer's perspective, there is the slightest tingling of nostalgia........but nobody's gonna actually buy this shit.
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Quoted: $300: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/2047298_-300-AR-thread-for-Christmas-.html Mike's thread in Retro: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_123/733475_New-US-made-Leader-T2.html I'm glad they're back on the market, I just don't understand how they can be made profitably. Masterpiece Arms gave up. View Quote in for one. |
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Would it have killed you to add a few pics from the article you linked to ?? No...it wouldn't have. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Australian-Leader-T2-Rifle-to-be-Made-in-USA-2.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Those who always wanted one can soon have another one.............and the parts will be interchangeable with the old ones Leader T2 No...it wouldn't have. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Australian-Leader-T2-Rifle-to-be-Made-in-USA-2.jpg Nearly $1300 for something that looks like of was welded together out of old stop signs with some Chote furniture thrown on to round it out. lol |
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Quoted: https://i.imgur.com/U2wdswu.jpg View Quote |
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Looks like and illegitimate love child of a Daewoo, FN-FAL, and an AR-180 with mac-9/10/11 that was watching and blew its load onto the threesome.
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The question is not why would you buy that rifle, but what does that rifle do at 4X the cost of a new AR? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: Lets people know you're not restricted to poverty AR's. View Quote |
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Honestly, I don't find most military style rifles to be all that beautiful, including our beloved AR's but the usability and utility of them is what makes them great.
I would much rather see a dark rich wood stocked rifle any day, which is why I like collecting old English shotguns and such. |
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MSRP $1250....when an AR can be put together for $500 View Quote |
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Plenty of non-poverty ARs @ that price point if you want to class-signal. It's a neat design, just like the AK is a neat design. But other than the easy to make triangular bolt lugs and the possibility of a folding stock, what does it do better than an AR? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Lets people know you're not restricted to poverty AR's. It'll kill cardboard just as well as an AR will. |
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Do you always look @ the outside? B/c the inside is interesting as fuck. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Looks like and illegitimate love child of a Daewoo, FN-FAL, and an AR-180 with mac-9/10/11 that was watching and blew its load onto the threesome. For me, end the end.. all I want to know is does it run. Looks are third to me after reliability. |
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The question is not why would you buy that rifle, but what does that rifle do at 4X the cost of a new AR? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: https://i.imgur.com/U2wdswu.jpg I have 11 ARs. I want a T2 just for the sake of having something different. Lastly, this is a new production of a gun by its original designer. Not a knockoff like a Iver Johnson M1 Carbine or a Todd Bailey MP5 clone. |
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I cant understand how a cheaply made stamped steel firearm will sell for that kind of money.
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It is a rifle of a different era, back in production, for the sake of those that want one. It is a period update to the AR-18 as Stoner originally intended the design to be. I have 11 ARs. I want a T2 just for the sake of having something different. Lastly, this is a new production of a gun by its original designer. Not a knockoff like a Iver Johnson M1 Carbine or a Todd Bailey MP5 clone. View Quote If I have the money I'll buy one of these just to piss off the $300 PSA NPCs |
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MSRP $1250....when an AR can be put together for $500 View Quote I am sure the street price will be lower, and I wouldn't mind having one just as something different. I wish them luck, but realistically introducing a gun in today's AR market just does not seem like a good idea financially. There are plenty of flaws are available to point out in lower cost ARs, but not to the tune of hundreds of dollars. |
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This is excellent news. Mr. St. George has had this in the works for at least a couple of years. I ran into him at a local range where he was testing a prototype and let me handle and shoot it. Super nice guy who was shocked that I recognized him and knew about Leader Dynamics. I had an original back in the day and let it go, I want one for sure.
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Aimed straight at the collector market. Those first 250 will be all you ever see. Most will never leave the box but just be sold from collector to collector.
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This is excellent news. Mr. St. George has had this in the works for at least a couple of years. I ran into him at a local range where he was testing a prototype and let me handle and shoot it. Super nice guy who was shocked that I recognized him and knew about Leader Dynamics. I had an original back in the day and let it go, I want one for sure. View Quote |
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