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Posted: 1/28/2022 1:17:13 PM EDT

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this is for my mother...she has bad knees and back, needs to be a soft ride

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Lexus RX

Posted: 1/28/2022 1:22:14 PM EDT

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Had one. AWD, 6-spd awesome car.

Until the warranty ran out. Never own a BMW out of warranty…

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My dad has a 328 xdrive wagon. It's pretty awesome. It's been reliable so far but he doesn't drive much.

Posted: 1/28/2022 1:26:32 PM EDT

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The transfer case of the AWD F3X cars is a problem. Kept me from buying the 328d wagon I wanted. Got the sedan instead. Probably should have just bought the wagon and kept an eye out for a spare transfer case.

Posted: 1/28/2022 1:28:14 PM EDT

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Buying new or used?

If new, X7 is more better, but more money.

X5 is plenty big though.

Don't buy a BMW used....my dad bought a lightly used X5 (off lease but like 20k miles on it)....it was in the shop A LOT, he got fed up and traded it in for Lexus RX and is much happier.

I had a 3 series years ago...engine was fine, but after warranty all doo dads started breaking...including the headliner falling down...loved the car when it was new...nightmare for quality of life after warranty.

Love me some BMW German Engineering, but my BMW purchases will be limited to weekend fun cars if I ever buy one.

I have a Lexus RX for my wife, and it's literally the best car I've ever owned. It checks all the boxes you're looking for. Mine has 93k miles, other than normal wear and tear (tires fluids and brakes), I've only had to replace the battery (once) and the water pump (just done at 92k miles).....it's a tank and super comfy ride. The 3.5L is a rock solid engine and all of the doo dads still work inside. My only gripe is the mpg around town isn't the best (17-18mpg), but on the highway it's surprisingly good (24mpg).

I liked it so much, I got a Lexus when I needed a new car....I'm now a lexus convert.

Posted: 1/28/2022 1:51:51 PM EDT

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They are not SUV or crossovers or whatever. They are station wagons. Very nice, very powerful, very expensive station wagons.

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ETA: More power to you…but still, they’re station wagons and had to get that off my chest.

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I can’t speak to the x5 (even though I’m a huge bmw fan), but the Cayenne has been proven for years to be a top performing suv.

Posted: 1/28/2022 2:23:29 PM EDT

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Lincoln Aviators look badass, and Lincoln has prioritized comfortable ride. I had a buddy just buy a '22 MB GLC300. He drove the new X3 and hated the stiff ride.

Posted: 1/28/2022 2:24:26 PM EDT

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She wants a Lexus.

Posted: 1/28/2022 2:25:40 PM EDT

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i have the 2020 x3m competition & love it. had an M4 before, and was hesitant to move to the SUV, but i really like it now. all wheel drive, M motor, etc. plenty of trunk storage as well.

Posted: 1/28/2022 2:27:06 PM EDT

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I can’t speak to the x5 (even though I’m a huge bmw fan), but the Cayenne has been proven for years to be a top performing suv.

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They are not SUV or crossovers or whatever. They are station wagons. Very nice, very powerful, very expensive station wagons.

Sorry, had to get that off my chest.

ETA: More power to you…but still, they’re station wagons and had to get that off my chest.

I can’t speak to the x5 (even though I’m a huge bmw fan), but the Cayenne has been proven for years to be a top performing suv.

Yep.

I don't have any qualms with calling the Cayenne a truck.

Not so much the Macan.

Even though I still love them.

Posted: 1/28/2022 2:27:26 PM EDT

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Tell her to get a Lexus.

Posted: 1/28/2022 2:30:35 PM EDT

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Tesla Model X or Model Y Performance. The BMW X series is hot garbage, always has been. I have had more BMW's than anyone, probly around a dozen different models. My X6M was just a raging pos..

Posted: 1/28/2022 2:56:02 PM EDT

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I was planning on buying a Macan this year when I sell my old truck, so we'd still have something at least decent in bad weather... but then my partner decided to buy a new Tacoma last week for hunting... so I don't know what the hell I want to buy now.

Stick with the Macan? By a boxter? I don't know.

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Boxters are fun but wow do you lose cabin space. If I was slightly wealthier I'd go buy a new Macan S, damn the monthly.

Posted: 1/28/2022 3:00:33 PM EDT

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They are not SUV or crossovers or whatever. They are station wagons. Very nice, very powerful, very expensive station wagons.

Sorry, had to get that off my chest.

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That is quibbling over a term. Here is one definition of the term.

A sport utility vehicle or SUV is a car classification that combines elements of road-going passenger cars with features from off-road vehicles, such as raised ground clearance and four-wheel drive . There is no commonly agreed-upon definition of an SUV, and usage of the term varies between countries.

So even a Highlander is an SUV by most modern definitions. And you and I agree it isn't useful for off roading.

I traded my Cayenne in for an X5. I never drove the Cayenne off road either. I have no intention of driving the X5 off road. I do think if the road washes out or I run into bad conditions it is more capable than the average sedan with road clearance and AWD. But if it gets really rough I expect I'd damage the thing. Especially those fancy assed wheels.

If I still went off road I'd have stuck with Jeeps.

Posted: 1/28/2022 3:02:52 PM EDT

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Boxters are fun but wow do you lose cabin space. If I was slightly wealthier I'd go buy a new Macan S, damn the monthly.

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I was planning on buying a Macan this year when I sell my old truck, so we'd still have something at least decent in bad weather... but then my partner decided to buy a new Tacoma last week for hunting... so I don't know what the hell I want to buy now.

Stick with the Macan? By a boxter? I don't know.

Boxters are fun but wow do you lose cabin space. If I was slightly wealthier I'd go buy a new Macan S, damn the monthly.

The 911 replaced a Z4. I kinda miss having a little convertible.

Anything we need space for, the Taycan and Tacoma can handle.

But yeah, I have no idea what direction I'm going to go at this point.

I'm also not really in a hurry.

Posted: 1/28/2022 3:08:23 PM EDT

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damn that's impressive.

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X5 should do the trick. Had a love/hate relationship with mine. Managed to squeeze over 250k miles out of it

damn that's impressive.

My dad had an awesome set of tools, and he showed me how to use them.

Most of the stuff I worked on was minor. The two biggest recurring problems were worn front suspension bushings and water pumps. Front end kits were easy to come by and the water pump was mounted on the front of the V8 so it was a pretty simple swap.

Posted: 1/28/2022 3:13:05 PM EDT

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If it was me, i'd get a Cayenne. Yes, you're paying the Porsche tax, but it's a great vehicle that is reasonably reliable. It doesn't look as good as the X5, and the X5 has a few cool party pieces (like the two piece lift gate), but reliability will always likely be an issue with the BMW.

And it's not like the price is THAT horrible if you're sticking with something like a Cayenne S. (I'm sure 434hp is more than enough for her)

Posted: 1/28/2022 3:14:19 PM EDT

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I bought an X5 x50i M Sport over the summer. It's awesome, I highly recommend.

I was never a luxury car guy, always happy with my Sequoia's and 4runners in the past. I wanted to treat myself and drive a more sophisticated fun to drive machine, so BMW was recommended by a friend.

My x50i is 485 HP, lots of bells and whistles including drive safety stuff plus a HUD. The V8 guzzles gas, but if you put it in the Economy mode, you get better mileage without sacrificing alot of power. On the highway when you're dodging all the left lane campers, the normal drive mode lets you zip by people in comfort.

All that said, my brother just got an AMG 63 SUV (not coupe). That is 605 HP of ridiculousness.

As a guy who never cared about HP and speed, I'm firmly entrenched on the other side of the spectrum now. If you drive alot like I do, why not do it in the best way you can afford?

Posted: 1/28/2022 3:23:02 PM EDT

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She wants a Lexus.

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do you qualify for medicare also?

Posted: 1/28/2022 4:14:28 PM EDT

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lol that's quite a trip

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I have two certified bmw x7's on the lot right now. One is a 2020 and the other is a 2019 come on down

lol that's quite a trip

It's not that bad, I ship cars all over the country. Hawaii is probably the record for furthest vehicle shipped by me

Posted: 1/28/2022 4:21:30 PM EDT

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I have a 2019 (G05) X5 which is the current body style.

I'd say with booster seats in the back there's plenty of leg room for the driver and front passenger. If you had full side kid's seats that were rear facing, I'd say nah.

The vehicle itself has been just ok. A lot I chalk up to being the first year of the new body style and some options weren't available when we ordered it. We were one of the first in the US to have the new G05. We had lots of issues with the new idrive. Mechanically its been sound though, and the 6 cylinder is easily one of the most reliable BMW engines.

I think if I had to do it again, I would have ordered air suspension, and 20" wheels. That's about all I'd change.

Posted: 1/28/2022 4:29:03 PM EDT

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I got me a Cayenne S. Love it. Kids love it. Even the wife likes it.

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I dig it

very cool

Posted: 1/28/2022 4:44:37 PM EDT

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Get the X5 50i. Plenty of room for my two kids in booster seats and our 100 lb Lab in the back. Ride is great, nice interior, good handling for an SUV, and 500 hp.

Posted: 1/28/2022 5:03:57 PM EDT

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As a 2020 X5 owner, which I really like, I’d get an X7 m50i

Posted: 1/28/2022 6:02:00 PM EDT

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The wife had a 2013 X6 5 liter that shit the bed. Went in for an oil change and the shop said it needed over 8K in repairs. Web search found that the V8 motors across many platforms were junk. Battery issues, gaskets busting from heat issues, turbo problems, etc. Told the dealer to make an offer and sold it back to BMW. Drove a couple of miles to the Lexus shop and bought a 2017 GX460. It’s not as sporty as the X but it’s will roll 200K miles easy with basic upkeep.

Posted: 1/28/2022 8:27:45 PM EDT

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OP, I ordered a 2022 BMW X5 45e back in December, and it was delivered to my home today. Spent the afternoon driving it around and getting used to all the bells and whistles, of which there are plenty. In any case, I think it will fit the bill for what you are looking for, and I'm looking forward to getting to know it better.

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Posted: 1/28/2022 8:40:01 PM EDT

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OP, I ordered a 2022 BMW X5 45e back in December, and it was delivered to my home today. Spent the afternoon driving it around and getting used to all the bells and whistles, of which there are plenty. In any case, I think it will fit the bill for what you are looking for, and I'm looking forward to getting to know it better.

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I liek that blue

Looks good!

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Where there any other cars you were looking at?

Posted: 1/28/2022 9:09:45 PM EDT

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OP, I ordered a 2022 BMW X5 45e back in December, and it was delivered to my home today. Spent the afternoon driving it around and getting used to all the bells and whistles, of which there are plenty. In any case, I think it will fit the bill for what you are looking for, and I'm looking forward to getting to know it better.

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Damn, that's sweet! Congratulations. Love the color, and I'm a sucker for a nice leather interior with wood trim.

Our '19 4Runner ORP is paid for, low mileage, it's the right answer for N. Idaho, but an X5 is calling my name. Must...resist...

Posted: 1/28/2022 9:16:23 PM EDT

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I liek that blue

Looks good!

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Where there any other cars you were looking at?

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Ford Explorer
Kia Telluride
Land Rover Discovery
Tesla Model S
Genesis GV80
Audi Q8
BMW X4
BMW X6

Posted: 1/28/2022 9:25:04 PM EDT

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I think the X7 and some versions of the X5 have air suspension? I would look towards those, otherwise people often aren't happy with the rougher ride of BMW versus competitors. I would also look at Audi Q7 or Q8, with optional air suspension. Audi is very function and practicality focused which you might appreciate. I test drove the new Genesis GV80 and that was damn nice looking vehicle too.

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If I had to do it over I would probably shy away from complicated suspension setups.
My X5d with 3rd row seating (3rd row=air suspension option only) has issues in very cold weather.
On cold mornings I sometimes come out to a completely lowered (both rear sides) X5.
Narrowed it down to a sticking solenoid valve assembly.
Solenoid valve assembly is not available for individual purchase.
Valve assembly is part of a larger group of parts including the air compressor.
1300.00+