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Originally Posted By OverScoped: That's the weird part.. In pennsylvania you don't have to do any paperwork To sell a rifle... Also a father can give his son or daughter a rifle or a handgun without any paperwork. Unless the dad knows the kids crazy why the hell would he go through the process of transferring the ownership to his son. It's not even required by law and it's not free.... Seems crazy to pay like fifty bucks for a service that isn't even required. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By OverScoped: Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Originally Posted By Castrolr1: wasn't he there a few days before flying a drone..?? He could have hid the rifle there the same day This would bring up maybe a few other questions.....did he ask permission to get the gun since it was his dads, did the kid have full access and the dad never noticed it missing....anyone have the 911 call supposedly the parents made and why? (the why part is my dad would never look for my ass mid Saturday when I was 20...he knew I was with friends) Wray said it was actually crooks gun. His dad bought it, and crooks bought it from the dad and showed them paperwork of the purchase That's the weird part.. In pennsylvania you don't have to do any paperwork To sell a rifle... Also a father can give his son or daughter a rifle or a handgun without any paperwork. Unless the dad knows the kids crazy why the hell would he go through the process of transferring the ownership to his son. It's not even required by law and it's not free.... Seems crazy to pay like fifty bucks for a service that isn't even required. I kinda was thinking the same thing. I'm wondering now, when he said they produced the paperwork. He might of been referring to the dads paperwork. But the way he said it kinda insinuated paperwork when transferring to the son. I need to go back and listen to it carefully |
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Originally Posted By Cycolac: Accessing the roof without a ladder. I think it was one of two possible ways: Least likely is crooks climbed up these slotted steel channels that the A/C lines are attached to. They were right in front of the windows the local police were supposed to be watching from. Plus I haven't seen any videos where the witnesses said 'he climbed up right there'. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_151030_Gallery_jpg-3277582.JPG The more likely way crooks got on the building roof was either via this shed roof or by slotted steel channels (unseen in any photos I've seen) that were likely holding the A/C lines from the A/C unit next to the shed. This would have shielded him from most of the crowd that seemed to be closer to the building that he shot from. It would also jive with what the one witness said who saw crooks going between the big building roofs via the mezzanine/breezeway roofs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_152002_Gallery_jpg-3277584.JPG He likely took this route across the roof from getting up to where he shot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_151310_Gallery_jpg-3277590.JPG View Quote @realwar posted this earlier, and it makes the most sense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcYGF77ZKpg Completely hidden from view, and scumbag may have hid his backpack behind the AHU ahead of time. I think the pic of the bike with bedroll and backpack being publicized isn't his, it's the one of the guy that was detained. Crooks hid his pack, tossed it onto the roof, climbed up, crouched over the closest building, and then put together his AR. |
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Originally Posted By ajb78: Why not just use the old smoking chair to get on the shed, and a pallet from the loading dock on top of the shed for makeshift ladder? Someone broke the chair, someone put the pallet up there.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_144049_png-3277699.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_145322_png-3277707.JPG View Quote That's a very good point. I remember thinking how that kinda looked like how he may have gotten up during the video. But I got distracted with all the other stuff. I'm glad you brought that back up. |
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Originally Posted By Advance: Like a BOSS! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/SNAG-0097_png-3277627.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: That's a very good point. I remember thinking how that kinda looked like how he may have gotten up during the video. But I got distracted with all the other stuff. I'm glad you brought that back up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By ajb78: Why not just use the old smoking chair to get on the shed, and a pallet from the loading dock on top of the shed for makeshift ladder? Someone broke the chair, someone put the pallet up there.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_144049_png-3277699.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_145322_png-3277707.JPG That's a very good point. I remember thinking how that kinda looked like how he may have gotten up during the video. But I got distracted with all the other stuff. I'm glad you brought that back up. Because that's on the opposite side of the complex he was at, and it's on the side the SWAT guys would have come out of ? By the time they came down, and Crooks came all the way around the buildings, SWAT would have seen him .... at least climbing up |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By brass: Where did the backpack go, where was it found? It wasn't on the roof. Is this speculation or a bit of information leaked from local LEO? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157876/arhar-3277564.png @D_Man Thank you! I have not seen that video, just the aerial 'after" views which showed rifle but no other pack on for. |
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Originally Posted By MiloBloom: Because that's on the opposite side of the complex he was at, and it's on the side the SWAT guys would have come out of ? By the time they came down, and Crooks came all the way around the buildings, SWAT would have seen him .... at least climbing up View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MiloBloom: Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By ajb78: Why not just use the old smoking chair to get on the shed, and a pallet from the loading dock on top of the shed for makeshift ladder? Someone broke the chair, someone put the pallet up there.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_144049_png-3277699.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_145322_png-3277707.JPG That's a very good point. I remember thinking how that kinda looked like how he may have gotten up during the video. But I got distracted with all the other stuff. I'm glad you brought that back up. Because that's on the opposite side of the complex he was at, and it's on the side the SWAT guys would have come out of ? By the time they came down, and Crooks came all the way around the buildings, SWAT would have seen him .... at least climbing up Possibly. Hard to say where they would of exited. Probably exterior doors everywhere. I wish someone would post that picture of the ac units with the ductwork again. Looked like 2 units and four ducts and piping all running upwards towards the roof. I remember thinking. Even my big ass could a climbed up. And usually those units are on the backside or side of the building. Wondered how far that was from the pic they took of him Wanna say it was from an MSN news site. But it's all running together now. Can't really remember. |
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Originally Posted By ajb78: Why not just use the old smoking chair to get on the shed, and a pallet from the loading dock on top of the shed for makeshift ladder? Someone broke the chair, someone put the pallet up there.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_144049_png-3277699.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_145322_png-3277707.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ajb78: Originally Posted By Cycolac: Accessing the roof without a ladder. I think it was one of two possible ways: Least likely is crooks climbed up these slotted steel channels that the A/C lines are attached to. They were right in front of the windows the local police were supposed to be watching from. Plus I haven't seen any videos where the witnesses said 'he climbed up right there'. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_151030_Gallery_jpg-3277582.JPG The more likely way crooks got on the building roof was either via this shed roof or by slotted steel channels (unseen in any photos I've seen) that were likely holding the A/C lines from the A/C unit next to the shed. This would have shielded him from most of the crowd that seemed to be closer to the building that he shot from. It would also jive with what the one witness said who saw crooks going between the big building roofs via the mezzanine/breezeway roofs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_152002_Gallery_jpg-3277584.JPG He likely took this route across the roof from getting up to where he shot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_151310_Gallery_jpg-3277590.JPG Why not just use the old smoking chair to get on the shed, and a pallet from the loading dock on top of the shed for makeshift ladder? Someone broke the chair, someone put the pallet up there.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_144049_png-3277699.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_145322_png-3277707.JPG I'm going to guess the police did that. crooks wasn't big enough to break the chair. *NOT a donut joke. That would also explain why there were a couple officers on the roof before the guys with the helmet cams - that we've been watching video from - got up their via the ladder(s). |
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Something says to me that the building, and someone from the crew inside; has something to do with this assassination.
Anyone else thinking this too? |
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Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Possibly. Hard to say where they would of exited. Probably exterior doors everywhere. I wish someone would post that picture of the ac units with the ductwork again. Looked like 2 units and four ducts and piping all running upwards towards the roof. I remember thinking. Even my big ass could a climbed up. And usually those units are on the backside or side of the building. Wondered how far that was from the pic they took of him Wanna say it was from an MSN news site. But it's all running together now. Can't really remember. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By MiloBloom: Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By ajb78: Why not just use the old smoking chair to get on the shed, and a pallet from the loading dock on top of the shed for makeshift ladder? Someone broke the chair, someone put the pallet up there.... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_144049_png-3277699.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/505412/Screenshot_2024-07-26_145322_png-3277707.JPG That's a very good point. I remember thinking how that kinda looked like how he may have gotten up during the video. But I got distracted with all the other stuff. I'm glad you brought that back up. Because that's on the opposite side of the complex he was at, and it's on the side the SWAT guys would have come out of ? By the time they came down, and Crooks came all the way around the buildings, SWAT would have seen him .... at least climbing up Possibly. Hard to say where they would of exited. Probably exterior doors everywhere. I wish someone would post that picture of the ac units with the ductwork again. Looked like 2 units and four ducts and piping all running upwards towards the roof. I remember thinking. Even my big ass could a climbed up. And usually those units are on the backside or side of the building. Wondered how far that was from the pic they took of him Wanna say it was from an MSN news site. But it's all running together now. Can't really remember. JFC ... he didn't climb there, if he did there would be video of it. He was barely visible on the roof and there's multiple shots of that, you have to use a little logic. He obviously climbed up out of view of everybody. |
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13 days and we still don’t know jack shit about crooks.
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Originally Posted By MiloBloom: JFC ... he didn't climb there, if he did there would be video of it. He was barely visible on the roof and there's multiple shots of that, you have to use a little logic. He obviously climbed up out of view of everybody. View Quote You saying he didn't climb up the AC or where the pallet is? |
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This has to be a “stock” pic right?
https://nypost.com/2024/07/26/us-news/fbi-confirms-trump-hit-by-would-be-assassin-thomas-matthew-crooks-bullet/ |
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From the link above:
In response to the FBI’s statement, Trump said that he “fully accepted” Wray’s “apology.” “I assume that’s the best apology that we’ll get from Director Wray, but it is fully accepted!” he wrote on Truth Social. Wray, 57, was hired by Trump for the top FBI spot back in 2017. |
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Originally Posted By Notrega: This has to be a “stock” pic right? https://nypost.com/2024/07/26/us-news/fbi-confirms-trump-hit-by-would-be-assassin-thomas-matthew-crooks-bullet/ https://i.imgur.com/EpPfUsu.jpeg View Quote I'm guessing stock pic of the rifle. The pictures were blurry but not that blurry that we all would miss the scope AND bipod. UNLESS they were apart in the pictures on the roof and somebody put them (back?) together later. |
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Originally Posted By wsix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzepkf9iUTk Assuming all of you have fired an AR and some of you have dropped a screw on a metal roof. How in the hell are all of the fired brass in a pile near the roof peak? What a load of total bullshit. Whoever staged that is probably directing Disney Star Wars shows. That brass would be in the gutter or way down the roof. View Quote Nope, the tapered brass just rolls up to a ridge in the metal roof and stops, it won't roll off the roof like a marble. |
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Originally Posted By diesel1: How long is a 16" barreled upper assembly? Maybe 24"? And a lower, even with an A2 buttstock, is less than that. 16" rifles will fit in a 34" case so, with the upper and lower separated, could fit in a backpack. View Quote I have broken down my rifle to carry it in a backpack plenty of times, a 16 will fit with no problem at all in most ruck size packs. |
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Originally Posted By Notrega: This has to be a “stock” pic right? https://nypost.com/2024/07/26/us-news/fbi-confirms-trump-hit-by-would-be-assassin-thomas-matthew-crooks-bullet/ https://i.imgur.com/EpPfUsu.jpeg View Quote Attached File |
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BREAKING: FBI confirms Trump was struck by a bullet at rally shooting |
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Originally Posted By Cycolac: I'm guessing stock pic of the rifle. The pictures were blurry but not that blurry that we all would miss the scope AND bipod. UNLESS they were apart in the pictures on the roof and somebody put them (back?) together later. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Cycolac: Originally Posted By Notrega: This has to be a "stock" pic right? https://nypost.com/2024/07/26/us-news/fbi-confirms-trump-hit-by-would-be-assassin-thomas-matthew-crooks-bullet/ https://i.imgur.com/EpPfUsu.jpeg I'm guessing stock pic of the rifle. The pictures were blurry but not that blurry that we all would miss the scope AND bipod. UNLESS they were apart in the pictures on the roof and somebody put them (back?) together later. Yep, there definitely wasn't a bipod, and the optic was much shorter. |
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Originally Posted By brass: The "not bullet" leaving a trail from bullet trace? Not sure how it was captured, pure luck and high humidity is my only guess. Line in sky 1/3 down in image at right edge of photo. https://i.imgur.com/xRwhTmV.png View Quote I have seen that when the sun is at the right angle to glint off the copper jacket. |
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Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: You saying he didn't climb up the AC or where the pallet is? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By MiloBloom: JFC ... he didn't climb there, if he did there would be video of it. He was barely visible on the roof and there's multiple shots of that, you have to use a little logic. He obviously climbed up out of view of everybody. You saying he didn't climb up the AC or where the pallet is? Correct ... go up and watch my link from 7:35:16, it makes the most sense. |
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Originally Posted By Notrega: This has to be a "stock" pic right? https://nypost.com/2024/07/26/us-news/fbi-confirms-trump-hit-by-would-be-assassin-thomas-matthew-crooks-bullet/ https://i.imgur.com/EpPfUsu.jpeg View Quote So Thursday the FBI director puts it out there that maybe it wasn't a bullet, and then they conclude it was one on Friday when nobody is paying attention. Typical, disgusting political shenanigans by the FBI. |
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Originally Posted By Oldgold: This is my take as well. Nobody has explained the bombs, van, car, bike, rifle, and backpack(s) to my satisfaction. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Oldgold: Originally Posted By brass: The IEDs were in the conversion van he drove to the event, he left his car at Home Depot or something. I'm not sure how many times that story changed but there's a bike, a Hyundai Sonata, and a conversion van all reported to be his, along with a ladder (of indeterminate type), drone, laser rangefinder, and a $500 AR with crap sight (Holosun/Eotech/Eotech knockoff) details on sight unclear since it's blurred or cropped or pushed entirely out of frame in videos. The rifle was never seen while he walking around in the hours before, rifle potentially in backpack which he's seen with then without but no details on where he stashed it and if it actually contained the rifle, or if he pre-cached the rifle in an evergreen tree or was literally handed to him by unknown bad actor. It's all so tedious. This is my take as well. Nobody has explained the bombs, van, car, bike, rifle, and backpack(s) to my satisfaction. Add this one- Paraphrasing. Congressman: What is the Secret Service’s policy regarding radio communications at events, are they recorded? Cheatle: Our policy is that all radio communications are recorded at events. Congressman: Can we get the recordings or a transcript of those communications for this event? Cheatle: This event wasn’t recorded. What the fuck? You complicit motherfuckers. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://static-assets-1.truthsocial.com/tmtg:prime-ts-assets/media_attachments/files/112/853/602/706/873/656/original/50044a42009e2e56.jpg View Quote This is a distraction by Dems. Whatever hit his ear was the result of an attempted assassination of our presidential candidate. That is what matters. |
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Originally Posted By MiloBloom: @realwar posted this earlier, and it makes the most sense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcYGF77ZKpg Completely hidden from view, and scumbag may have hid his backpack behind the AHU ahead of time. I think the pic of the bike with bedroll and backpack being publicized isn't his, it's the one of the guy that was detained. Crooks hid his pack, tossed it onto the roof, climbed up, crouched over the closest building, and then put together his AR. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MiloBloom: Originally Posted By Cycolac: Accessing the roof without a ladder. I think it was one of two possible ways: Least likely is crooks climbed up these slotted steel channels that the A/C lines are attached to. They were right in front of the windows the local police were supposed to be watching from. Plus I haven't seen any videos where the witnesses said 'he climbed up right there'. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_151030_Gallery_jpg-3277582.JPG The more likely way crooks got on the building roof was either via this shed roof or by slotted steel channels (unseen in any photos I've seen) that were likely holding the A/C lines from the A/C unit next to the shed. This would have shielded him from most of the crowd that seemed to be closer to the building that he shot from. It would also jive with what the one witness said who saw crooks going between the big building roofs via the mezzanine/breezeway roofs. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_152002_Gallery_jpg-3277584.JPG He likely took this route across the roof from getting up to where he shot. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494198/Screenshot_20240726_151310_Gallery_jpg-3277590.JPG @realwar posted this earlier, and it makes the most sense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcYGF77ZKpg Completely hidden from view, and scumbag may have hid his backpack behind the AHU ahead of time. I think the pic of the bike with bedroll and backpack being publicized isn't his, it's the one of the guy that was detained. Crooks hid his pack, tossed it onto the roof, climbed up, crouched over the closest building, and then put together his AR. That video shows an A/C (?) unit(s) that they speculate he may have used to climb onto the roof. In the picture below you'll notice there doesn't seem to be anything in that area to use to climb up on the roof. Attached File Also, had he climbed up there and crossed over using the mezzanine/ breezeways to cross, once he got to the roof of the building he shot from he would have had to move toward the back of the building to get to his firing position. In the one video with the woman screeching about him being on the roof, it shows crooks working his way over the roofing seems toward the front of the building. That would have taken him away from the spot where he shot from. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Notrega: This has to be a “stock” pic right? https://nypost.com/2024/07/26/us-news/fbi-confirms-trump-hit-by-would-be-assassin-thomas-matthew-crooks-bullet/ https://i.imgur.com/EpPfUsu.jpeg View Quote doesn't look the same: |
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Originally Posted By AgeOne: This is precisely why conspiracy theory exists. people really, really hope there is some grand scheme, planners trying to implement a plan. because the reality is terrifying, the people tasked with the most important jobs in the world are really that stupid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AgeOne: Originally Posted By WoodHeat: In light of the current situation I find myself hoping that we can attribute this all to malice, because incompetence is far scarier. The idea that the leaders of the premier protective and investigative agencies in the world are bumbling idiots is terrifying. This is precisely why conspiracy theory exists. people really, really hope there is some grand scheme, planners trying to implement a plan. because the reality is terrifying, the people tasked with the most important jobs in the world are really that stupid. Conspiracy theories exist because there are no clear answer, or answers that don't make sense. In this assassination attempt, exactly what "they" want. They have set up and created--before and after the fact-- deceptions, distractions, convoluted facts and fictions, and withholding many vital information/facts from the public... Therefore, there are more questions than answers. |
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Originally Posted By Oldgold: This is my take as well. Nobody has explained the bombs, van, car, bike, rifle, and backpack(s) to my satisfaction. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Oldgold: Originally Posted By brass: The IEDs were in the conversion van he drove to the event, he left his car at Home Depot or something. I'm not sure how many times that story changed but there's a bike, a Hyundai Sonata, and a conversion van all reported to be his, along with a ladder (of indeterminate type), drone, laser rangefinder, and a $500 AR with crap sight (Holosun/Eotech/Eotech knockoff) details on sight unclear since it's blurred or cropped or pushed entirely out of frame in videos. The rifle was never seen while he walking around in the hours before, rifle potentially in backpack which he's seen with then without but no details on where he stashed it and if it actually contained the rifle, or if he pre-cached the rifle in an evergreen tree or was literally handed to him by unknown bad actor. It's all so tedious. This is my take as well. Nobody has explained the bombs, van, car, bike, rifle, and backpack(s) to my satisfaction. This is the most photographed and video/audio recorded assassination attempt in history (Over ± 3 hours from shot fired). Yet, nearly 2 weeks later, nobody has their story straight. Nobody has even come close, and nobody has offered even one solid explanation of how the shooter got onto the roof and fired even one shot. Unless They also provided him with One (1) scroll of Teleport, we're being lied to/misled by huge omission. Imagine if the assassination attempt would have been successful. 95% of what we have been reviewing and looking at would have been classified/seized for "national security" and the MSM would be talking about how conspiracy theories of how Trump got shot destroy the nation, and how we must continue and re-elect Biden blah blah blah. Didn't work, Biden not running, new game plan for them since they realize they still have to compete against somebody who can literally inspire people to out vote their cheats is in play. |
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Originally Posted By brass: This is the most photographed and video/audio recorded assassination attempt in history (Over ± 3 hours from shot fired). Yet, nearly 2 weeks later, nobody has their story straight. Nobody has even come close, and nobody has offered even one solid explanation of how the shooter got onto the roof and fired even one shot. Unless They also provided him with One (1) scroll of Teleport, we're being lied to/misled by huge omission. Imagine if the assassination attempt would have been successful. 95% of what we have been reviewing and looking at would have been classified/sized for "national security" and the MSM would be talking about how conspiracy theories of how Trump got shot destroy the nation, and how we must continue and re-elect Biden blah blah blah. Didn't work, Biden not running, new game plan for them since they realize they still have to compete against somebody who can literally inspire people to out vote their cheats is in play. View Quote What nonsense. Nobody has their story straight because it's currently under investigation and people are getting their news from random nutjobs around the internet. The location of the would-be assassin climbing up the roof wasn't the most highly video and audio recorded event. It's amazing that some of you don't think getting on top of a roof is possible and that two guys responsible for 360 degree security looking through magnified optics aren't going to leave temporary gaps in coverage at distances over 100m. Is this a firearm website where people actually have shot firearms? |
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Originally Posted By destaccado: What nonsense. Nobody has their story straight because it's currently under investigation and people are getting their news from random nutjobs around the internet. The location of the would-be assassin climbing up the roof wasn't the most highly video and audio recorded event. It's amazing that some of you don't think getting on top of a roof is possible and that two guys responsible for 360 degree security looking through magnified optics aren't going to leave temporary gaps in coverage at distances over 100m. Is this a firearm website where people actually have shot firearms? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By destaccado: Originally Posted By brass: This is the most photographed and video/audio recorded assassination attempt in history (Over ± 3 hours from shot fired). Yet, nearly 2 weeks later, nobody has their story straight. Nobody has even come close, and nobody has offered even one solid explanation of how the shooter got onto the roof and fired even one shot. Unless They also provided him with One (1) scroll of Teleport, we're being lied to/misled by huge omission. Imagine if the assassination attempt would have been successful. 95% of what we have been reviewing and looking at would have been classified/sized for "national security" and the MSM would be talking about how conspiracy theories of how Trump got shot destroy the nation, and how we must continue and re-elect Biden blah blah blah. Didn't work, Biden not running, new game plan for them since they realize they still have to compete against somebody who can literally inspire people to out vote their cheats is in play. What nonsense. Nobody has their story straight because it's currently under investigation and people are getting their news from random nutjobs around the internet. The location of the would-be assassin climbing up the roof wasn't the most highly video and audio recorded event. It's amazing that some of you don't think getting on top of a roof is possible and that two guys responsible for 360 degree security looking through magnified optics aren't going to leave temporary gaps in coverage at distances over 100m. Is this a firearm website where people actually have shot firearms? LEO body cams from when they were following him as a person of interest. Could have passed his path up a few times caught on camera when they thought he was walking around. Very little of that is released, only snippets here and there and what the Senator re-released to the public which is where most of our new information has come from. They've had all this since the first day and it isn't like they're trying to figure out what went wrong on a space shuttle launch, this isn't that involved of investigation. What is really odd are the LEO/SS whistleblowers who pop up to say other guys are lying each time they release a new story. Like Wray Trump not hit by bullet well, wait, he was. |
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Originally Posted By brass: LEO body cams from when they were following him as a person of interest. Could have passed his path up a few times caught on camera when they thought he was walking around. Very little of that is released, only snippets here and there and what the Senator re-released to the public which is where most of our new information has come from. They've had all this since the first day and it isn't like they're trying to figure out what went wrong on a space shuttle launch, this isn't that involved of investigation. What is really odd are the LEO/SS whistleblowers who pop up to say other guys are lying each time they release a new story. Like Wray Trump not hit by bullet well, wait, he was. View Quote |
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Possible location where he may have accessed the roof
Spa Guy Butler How did the Assassin Get on the Building? Attached File |
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Originally Posted By realwar: Possible location where he may have accessed the roof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euZXscg2mV0 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2024-07-26_at_22-14-58_Spa_Gu-3278010.JPG View Quote Inconceivable. Everyone knows that it's impossible to get on a roof because the conspiracists on X said so. Further, if two guys looking through magnified optics didn't have 100% 360 degree coverage every second of the event then it's clear they were intentionally letting Trump get shot. They even waited to fire until they knew Trump was safely behind cover and the shooter didn't have another chance to hit his target anymore. Sure, sure they didn't look over to actually see that but they could hear through the radio transmissions Biden's hand-picked CIA agent was transmitting which is why the transmissions weren't recorded. The fact that none of this can be conclusively disproven means it's probably true. |
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Originally Posted By brass: [b]Nobody has even come close, and nobody has offered even one solid explanation of how the shooter got onto the roof and fired even one shot. View Quote ...and then just a little while later a GD member shows a photo demonstrating why you need to research the derp before you herp. |
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Originally Posted By destaccado: ...and then just a little while later a GD member shows a photo demonstrating why you need to research the derp before you herp. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By destaccado: Originally Posted By brass: [b]Nobody has even come close, and nobody has offered even one solid explanation of how the shooter got onto the roof and fired even one shot. ...and then just a little while later a GD member shows a photo demonstrating why you need to research the derp before you herp. Again, referring to "Official Narrative" releases from LEO/SS/FBI/etc. We have a shitload of potential theories in the thread, some much better than others. We don't know what was in place at various times to potentially make those nice spots non-accessible whenever he used another, though. |
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Originally Posted By destaccado: Inconceivable. Everyone knows that it's impossible to get on a roof because the conspiracists on X said so. Further, if two guys looking through magnified optics didn't have 100% 360 degree coverage every second of the event then it's clear they were intentionally letting Trump get shot. They even waited to fire until they knew Trump was safely behind cover and the shooter didn't have another chance to hit his target anymore. Sure, sure they didn't look over to actually see that but they could hear through the radio transmissions Biden's hand-picked CIA agent was transmitting which is why the transmissions weren't recorded. The fact that none of this can be conclusively disproven means it's probably true. View Quote Amen. I 100% agree.. this one isn't hard. |
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Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Wray said it was actually crooks gun. His dad bought it, and crooks bought it from the dad and showed them paperwork of the purchase View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By Scoobysmak: Originally Posted By Castrolr1: wasn't he there a few days before flying a drone..?? He could have hid the rifle there the same day This would bring up maybe a few other questions.....did he ask permission to get the gun since it was his dads, did the kid have full access and the dad never noticed it missing....anyone have the 911 call supposedly the parents made and why? (the why part is my dad would never look for my ass mid Saturday when I was 20...he knew I was with friends) Wray said it was actually crooks gun. His dad bought it, and crooks bought it from the dad and showed them paperwork of the purchase Gotcha, I have not kept up with all the hearings...some people have to work..... I was going by the original information that it was his dads, wasn't aware of the change. |
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Originally Posted By MiloBloom: Correct ... go up and watch my link from 7:35:16, it makes the most sense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MiloBloom: Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By MiloBloom: JFC ... he didn't climb there, if he did there would be video of it. He was barely visible on the roof and there's multiple shots of that, you have to use a little logic. He obviously climbed up out of view of everybody. You saying he didn't climb up the AC or where the pallet is? Correct ... go up and watch my link from 7:35:16, it makes the most sense. It's a 3d model which may or not be accurate. And she's just speculating based on nothing more than her opinion. If you wanna base your opinion on that bullshit, go ahead. I'm gonna need more evidence before I form an opinion. |
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Originally Posted By AgeOne: This is precisely why conspiracy theory exists. Wasn't this term created by those covering up for the Kennedy assassination? people really, really hope there is some grand scheme, planners trying to implement a plan. because the reality is terrifying, the people tasked with the most important jobs in the world are really that stupid. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AgeOne: Originally Posted By WoodHeat: In light of the current situation I find myself hoping that we can attribute this all to malice, because incompetence is far scarier. The idea that the leaders of the premier protective and investigative agencies in the world are bumbling idiots is terrifying. This is precisely why conspiracy theory exists. Wasn't this term created by those covering up for the Kennedy assassination? people really, really hope there is some grand scheme, planners trying to implement a plan. because the reality is terrifying, the people tasked with the most important jobs in the world are really that stupid. While that may be true, should we also believe the people telling the stupid and incompetent what to do - are stupid as well? I don't believe the .gov employees who are actively doing everything they can to cover this up are stupid. I think they know they've sold their souls to the devil. ( this includes the obvious .gov plants on this forum ) Personally, I don't see how the rank and file can look themselves in the mirror knowing they are sitting in the front row to all of this and could stop this insanity. Yet they do absolutely nothing about it. |
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Originally Posted By M4-AK: Something says to me that the building, and someone from the crew inside; has something to do with this assassination. Anyone else thinking this too? View Quote I have always thought this to be plausible. Wouldn't surprise me a bit with what we've been watching for the past 10-12 years. |
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Originally Posted By destaccado: What nonsense. Nobody has their story straight because it's currently under investigation and people are getting their news from random nutjobs around the internet. The location of the would-be assassin climbing up the roof wasn't the most highly video and audio recorded event. It's amazing that some of you don't think getting on top of a roof is possible and that two guys responsible for 360 degree security looking through magnified optics aren't going to leave temporary gaps in coverage at distances over 100m. Is this a firearm website where people actually have shot firearms? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By destaccado: Originally Posted By brass: This is the most photographed and video/audio recorded assassination attempt in history (Over ± 3 hours from shot fired). Yet, nearly 2 weeks later, nobody has their story straight. Nobody has even come close, and nobody has offered even one solid explanation of how the shooter got onto the roof and fired even one shot. Unless They also provided him with One (1) scroll of Teleport, we're being lied to/misled by huge omission. Imagine if the assassination attempt would have been successful. 95% of what we have been reviewing and looking at would have been classified/sized for "national security" and the MSM would be talking about how conspiracy theories of how Trump got shot destroy the nation, and how we must continue and re-elect Biden blah blah blah. Didn't work, Biden not running, new game plan for them since they realize they still have to compete against somebody who can literally inspire people to out vote their cheats is in play. What nonsense. Nobody has their story straight because it's currently under investigation and people are getting their news from random nutjobs around the internet. The location of the would-be assassin climbing up the roof wasn't the most highly video and audio recorded event. It's amazing that some of you don't think getting on top of a roof is possible and that two guys responsible for 360 degree security looking through magnified optics aren't going to leave temporary gaps in coverage at distances over 100m. Is this a firearm website where people actually have shot firearms? And how many times have the USSS/FBI changed their 'official' stories recently? Like stating requests from DJT's team for increased security weren't denied (turns out they were) or stating DJT's wound may have been from 'shrapnel' (when it obviously wasn't and they later 'semi-recanted' their earlier statement). There's more going on here than mere professional incompetence. |
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Originally Posted By Tomac: And how many times have the USSS/FBI changed their 'official' stories recently? Like stating requests from DJT's team for increased security weren't denied (turns out they were) or stating DJT's wound may have been from 'shrapnel' (when it obviously wasn't and they later 'semi-recanted' their earlier statement). There's more going on here than mere professional incompetence. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By M4-AK: Something says to me that the building, and someone from the crew inside; has something to do with this assassination. Anyone else thinking this too? View Quote Yeah. Crooks could have been manipulated into thinking he was the main shooter’s backup, proving cover fire against the counter snipers, which is why he was seen fixated on the counter snipers with his range finder. Also the original 5 shell casings found would match the 5 rapid shots taken after the first 3 that nearly killed Trump, and the video of Crooks on the roof when the firing began looks like he’s not firing. Part of his role would have been to detonate the “bombs” obviously given to him which probably were dummies or junk to give him and his partner time to get out of the area. For a little soy boy he sure had down his method of getting onto the roof quickly, however that was (even though cops couldn’t figure it out) and getting into the right position which just happened to have a tree partially blocking him from one counter sniper team but was in full view of the building with the window and “Greg”. Now the main shooter in the building would have perfect view of Crooks and be waiting for him to get into position before firing, which may have been accelerated by the commotion of people seeing him. The first 3 shots were the “kill shots”, coincidentally matching the amount taken at Kennedy. Probably pre planned. Why, probably he had to take his shots and get out of dodge, blend in with LE at the scene, and leave his patsy on the roof to get blasted. If Crooks was obviously prepared enough to sneak into position with stashed rifle, use rangefinders, drones, ieds, remote detonators, he would have been smart enough to know if his ultimate goal was to get a precision shot on a target over a hundred yards away he would have also had a magnified optic on his rife. The real shooter probably did, but wind, stress, head movement is a bitch. The body cam video stoppage for 13 minutes before resuming was when someone on the inside placed the three shell casings nearby. I know it sounds crazy, but you couple with the history of the FBI handling and entrapping dimwits with how they acted afterwards, stories changing from the SS, FBI, PA state police, etc. No useful information about his internet history, social media, contacts, we can see that this was a setup and we ain’t in Kansas anymore. |
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Originally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Yeah. Crooks could have been manipulated into thinking he was the main shooter’s backup, proving cover fire against the counter snipers, which is why he was seen fixated on the counter snipers with his range finder. Also the original 5 shell casings found would match the 5 rapid shots taken after the first 3 that nearly killed Trump, and the video of Crooks on the roof when the firing began looks like he’s not firing. Part of his role would have been to detonate the “bombs” obviously given to him which probably were dummies or junk to give him and his partner time to get out of the area. For a little soy boy he sure had down his method of getting onto the roof quickly, however that was (even though cops couldn’t figure it out) and getting into the right position which just happened to have a tree partially blocking him from one counter sniper team but was in full view of the building with the window and “Greg”. Now the main shooter in the building would have perfect view of Crooks and be waiting for him to get into position before firing, which may have been accelerated by the commotion of people seeing him. The first 3 shots were the “kill shots”, coincidentally matching the amount taken at Kennedy. Probably pre planned. Why, probably he had to take his shots and get out of dodge, blend in with LE at the scene, and leave his patsy on the roof to get blasted. If Crooks was obviously prepared enough to sneak into position with stashed rifle, use rangefinders, drones, ieds, remote detonators, he would have been smart enough to know if his ultimate goal was to get a precision shot on a target over a hundred yards away he would have also had a magnified optic on his rife. The real shooter probably did, but wind, stress, head movement is a bitch. The body cam video stoppage for 13 minutes before resuming was when someone on the inside placed the three shell casings nearby. I know it sounds crazy, but you couple with the history of the FBI handling and entrapping dimwits with how they acted afterwards, stories changing from the SS, FBI, PA state police, etc. No useful information about his internet history, social media, contacts, we can see that this was a setup and we ain’t in Kansas anymore. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Originally Posted By M4-AK: Something says to me that the building, and someone from the crew inside; has something to do with this assassination. Anyone else thinking this too? Yeah. Crooks could have been manipulated into thinking he was the main shooter’s backup, proving cover fire against the counter snipers, which is why he was seen fixated on the counter snipers with his range finder. Also the original 5 shell casings found would match the 5 rapid shots taken after the first 3 that nearly killed Trump, and the video of Crooks on the roof when the firing began looks like he’s not firing. Part of his role would have been to detonate the “bombs” obviously given to him which probably were dummies or junk to give him and his partner time to get out of the area. For a little soy boy he sure had down his method of getting onto the roof quickly, however that was (even though cops couldn’t figure it out) and getting into the right position which just happened to have a tree partially blocking him from one counter sniper team but was in full view of the building with the window and “Greg”. Now the main shooter in the building would have perfect view of Crooks and be waiting for him to get into position before firing, which may have been accelerated by the commotion of people seeing him. The first 3 shots were the “kill shots”, coincidentally matching the amount taken at Kennedy. Probably pre planned. Why, probably he had to take his shots and get out of dodge, blend in with LE at the scene, and leave his patsy on the roof to get blasted. If Crooks was obviously prepared enough to sneak into position with stashed rifle, use rangefinders, drones, ieds, remote detonators, he would have been smart enough to know if his ultimate goal was to get a precision shot on a target over a hundred yards away he would have also had a magnified optic on his rife. The real shooter probably did, but wind, stress, head movement is a bitch. The body cam video stoppage for 13 minutes before resuming was when someone on the inside placed the three shell casings nearby. I know it sounds crazy, but you couple with the history of the FBI handling and entrapping dimwits with how they acted afterwards, stories changing from the SS, FBI, PA state police, etc. No useful information about his internet history, social media, contacts, we can see that this was a setup and we ain’t in Kansas anymore. I think putting the "other malicious shooter" in the room that held the high ups who came to just watch the rally while tagging it as duty in of time isn't likely. There were several people in the room nearest, from reports, others were in the taller building at the far end and it wasn't a ghost town. Neither the near window (which was open in later helicopter video), or the far one would have been easily accessed without knowledge of several LEO cycling through to cool off while on break from traffic. That's if you believe the LEO/State police were using that building as their command rally point and rest point of sorts. Everybody in the videos and in releases has a habit of using "this building" and "building behind that building" without really specificity which building and which room within the building (Cardinal direction N/S/E/W) was used for what and which had the CS team and which had the coffee and donuts. That seems sort of an intentional obfuscation to provide wiggle room later, as reports are often overly precise in which building at which position at which time in other events involving LEO (Not SS, just LEO for this building). The buildings were numbered and those could have been used as identifiers and directions for end of building and floor being discussed, but they're not using that nomenclature for some reason. Not saying "LEO did it", but "This is a confusing mess" and things like the 488 yard rifle shot reported by Bongino and Erik Prince in the first day were apparently incorrect, and both of them being incorrect on a single important detail is odd. That information is likely from same primary source they both trusted, possibly to test who was leaking or something? Water tower still doesn't make a good position as it's going to be checked optically but for somebody not practiced, shooting down at that angle would have put them way off target (you always hit high with a slant shot, and water tower would have been 30° ish so way high from point of aim). |
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