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Posted: 7/28/2024 11:32:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: realwar]
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Local SWAT team details account of Trump rally assassination attempt - Full interview coming on Monday 7/29/24
 Local SWAT team details account of Trump rally assassination attempt |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 11:36:30 AM EST
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It's important to go back through the thread and note all the accounts here that were suggesting that Trump wasn't shot, that it was just glass from the teleprompter, because those were the immediate talking points from the Democrat party and the FBI. And of course, we know that it was absurd nonsense and Wray was forced to admit that he was.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 11:40:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By turborocket: Inside job. We're not going to get anything definitive from the government other than 'it's still under investigation.' They can't risk coming out with a lie/narrative that subsequently has new video released to refute it They just want everyone to draw their own conclusion that it was the shooter on the roof. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13078/2nd_floor_window_jpeg-3279186.JPG
Where did those pictures come from? |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 11:43:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kidnap_44: It looks like he had a basic Holosun. Txs. Any info on the gun and ammo? |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 11:44:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LittleBigHorn: The range finder is kind of odd until you realize that this is some weird autistic tard who probably went to the range and practiced at a certain distance, being the range/club he went to with a 200 yard range. He wanted to be within that distance of practice. Now lets figure a red dot sight, probably 2ish MOA dot. 2 MOA at 150 yards is a 3" target dot, while laying prone, absolutely nothing wrong with that and an easy shot considering. Makes good sense. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 11:47:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mcantu: because it was his dad's gun, not his. he used what was available We dont know what else the dad owned. I bet if he owned a 50 cal or an AI in 338 mag, the kid would have chosen better gear. Probably the dad owned the usual fudd collection of a few lever actions, .22LR's, shotguns etc. Maybe this was the only AR and/or the killer felt most comfortable with it. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 11:49:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: JohnnyLoco]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Local SWAT team details account of Trump rally assassination attempt - Full interview coming on Monday 7/29/24  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rziP3dxb99cAfter Uvalde I call bullshit on anything a cop would say. They could and should be sued by the family members of those killed/shot if they admit to being incompetent/cowardly etc., mainly regarding the team supposedly in the window and those in command. Also who knows what BS they’re being fed by the feds, state police, etc. or being threatened. How long before some are suicided or killed like after Jan 6 or Oklahoma City? |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 11:50:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DM1975: Funny that you go to the optics forum here and say a red dot isn't good for over 100 yards and you will have a few dozen people telling you they can make 300 yard head shots all day long standing in hurricane winds while jumping rope with a red dot, but then you go here and suddenly it’s impossible and no one would ever consider such a thing. Also it isn’t like Crooks was trained. His training likely consisted of shooting on a 100 yard range from a bench and playing Call of Duty. It makes sense that he would just use what was available to him. And the range finder? It was likely he was just simply trying to find some place within what he considered to be a comfortable range for him to shoot. All of the speculation on this hinges on giving Crooks a lot of credit for knowing more than he likely actually did. To me it looks like a kid with a little bit of knowledge who thought he actually knew better. People like that are extremely numerous in any subject. Most likely. I can occasionally shoot MOA at 100 with my various Aimpoint RDS optics with a 3X mag (and now reading glasses :() It's not ideal but under 200 should be ok but much harder without the 3X. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 11:50:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: turborocket]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Where did those pictures come from? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Originally Posted By turborocket: Inside job. We're not going to get anything definitive from the government other than 'it's still under investigation.' They can't risk coming out with a lie/narrative that subsequently has new video released to refute it They just want everyone to draw their own conclusion that it was the shooter on the roof. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13078/2nd_floor_window_jpeg-3279186.JPG
Where did those pictures come from? @JohnnyLoco The X poster suggests it is at the :24 mark of the video.
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USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 11:57:20 AM EST
[Last Edit: FALFOX]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By turborocket:
That was most definitely 8 rounds, 3 slow then 5 fast, from the same unsuppressed AR in the same location, followed by two suppressed rifle shots. The first suppressed shot was immediately after the string of five fast shots and put Crooks down, and I suppose the second shot was an anchor shot to make sure. In my mind, this is the most convincing audio evidence putting the second shooter theory to bed. ETA: the little diagram at the end of this video is bulletin-board-yarn cuckoo. How they came to the conclusion that the video supports this is beyond me. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 12:10:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By turborocket: Inside job. We're not going to get anything definitive from the government other than 'it's still under investigation.' They can't risk coming out with a lie/narrative that subsequently has new video released to refute it They just want everyone to draw their own conclusion that it was the shooter on the roof. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13078/2nd_floor_window_jpeg-3279186.JPG
No one visible on water tower just before the shooting started. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 12:10:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: DM1975]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Most likely. I can occasionally shoot MOA at 100 with my various Aimpoint RDS optics with a 3X mag (and now reading glasses :() It's not ideal but under 200 should be ok but much harder without the 3X. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By DM1975: Funny that you go to the optics forum here and say a red dot isn't good for over 100 yards and you will have a few dozen people telling you they can make 300 yard head shots all day long standing in hurricane winds while jumping rope with a red dot, but then you go here and suddenly it’s impossible and no one would ever consider such a thing. Also it isn’t like Crooks was trained. His training likely consisted of shooting on a 100 yard range from a bench and playing Call of Duty. It makes sense that he would just use what was available to him. And the range finder? It was likely he was just simply trying to find some place within what he considered to be a comfortable range for him to shoot. All of the speculation on this hinges on giving Crooks a lot of credit for knowing more than he likely actually did. To me it looks like a kid with a little bit of knowledge who thought he actually knew better. People like that are extremely numerous in any subject. Most likely. I can occasionally shoot MOA at 100 with my various Aimpoint RDS optics with a 3X mag (and now reading glasses :() It's not ideal but under 200 should be ok but much harder without the 3X. My point is that most people have a higher opinion of their shooting abilities than what they are actually capable of. I don’t know how many times I have had some “seasoned hunter” tell me how he is such a good shot and is likely just as good or better than a trained shooter. I have taken these people out to the rifle range and had them try to put their money where their mouth is and none of them have been able to replicate their greatness they boast about. ETA: There is also something to be said about the difference in shooting on a flat range and not realizing what it takes to shoot under actual pressure (not talking about buck fever either). |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 12:11:14 PM EST
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 Was There 2nd Trump Shooter on Water Tower? Analysis |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 12:32:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: JohnnyLoco]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By turborocket: @JohnnyLoco The X poster suggests it is at the :24 mark of the video.
So what building are those still photos of and is the poster suggesting shots came from there and where is the single story building oriented towards the stage? Maybe Crooks didn’t take any shots, the scene in the roof was not secure, there’s no video of who got there first. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 12:36:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: So what building are those still photos of and is the poster suggesting shots came from there and where is the single story building oriented towards the stage? Maybe Crooks didn’t take any shots, the scene in the roof was not secure, there’s no video of who got there first. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Originally Posted By turborocket: @JohnnyLoco The X poster suggests it is at the :24 mark of the video.
So what building are those still photos of and is the poster suggesting shots came from there and where is the single story building oriented towards the stage? Maybe Crooks didn’t take any shots, the scene in the roof was not secure, there’s no video of who got there first. We know Butler supposedly had a CS team in one of the buildings looking out of the window. This very well likely could be glint from one of their optics. Even if they broke site to help look for Crooks as has been said it is within possibility that they left some equipment in place like perhaps a spotting scope? But this is all speculation, on both sides of the fence. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 12:44:21 PM EST
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Crazy how they're already trying to bury this event. It was non stop coverage of the "insurrection" on Jan 6th for months, and our government is still committing endless evil acts against those poor people to this day.
The Republicans have done fuck all since taking House. They won't hold a single one of these government criminals accountable. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 12:52:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeatBag: Crazy how they're already trying to bury this event. It was non stop coverage of the "insurrection" on Jan 6th for months, and our government is still committing endless evil acts against those poor people to this day. The Republicans have done fuck all since taking House. They won't hold a single one of these government criminals accountable. People have to start realizing that none of these politicians are doing a damn thing for us. It’s all about them. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 12:52:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: JohnnyLoco]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DM1975: We know Butler supposedly had a CS team in one of the buildings looking out of the window. This very well likely could be glint from one of their optics. Even if they broke site to help look for Crooks as has been said it is within possibility that they left some equipment in place like perhaps a spotting scope? But this is all speculation, on both sides of the fence. I looked at the maps, video. That’s the building Crooks was on top of. The real shooter could have very well been in that building. Or, maybe that’s glare, etc. I couldn’t freeze it but the light seems to be after the shots |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2024 12:58:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sledge850: I have thought about this as well. If persons in the two story building were in on it. They groom Crookes beforehand on what to do, then stage his rifle ahead of time. Use a similar rifle as his to "assist" with the shooting. They let him into that building and hustle him up to the 2nd story side window that was level with the lower building where the entrance was. Crookes climbs directly out onto the roof with his rifle. Crouches over to the mezzanine and start crawling up the last roof. Witnesses said he used his phone at some point while over there. Maybe letting the other party know I am ready. The "real" shooters take 3 measured shots from the open window on the two story building and report they are going to look for Crookes before or after doing their part. Once they fire Crookes fires his 5 shots and starts to leave. One report I saw even said that he may have been shot from behind. Not sure about that, but it would make sense if his patsy role had expired and his groomer needed to toss three like casing over onto his position before the Calvary showed up, which btw were delayed due to gates being chained shut. Its a stretch I know. But it would explain the roof, the rifle, and lack of foot prints anywhere on the AC units etc... its just an opinion and you know what they say about that  Not my area of expertise, but what is the likelihood that some organization had a satellite pointed at an event such as this. (Elon Musk) where everyone's location could be viewed live. Much like you see the Seal team operations in the situation room. Is this even a thing? Wouldn't that change the world or at least answer all the questions if something like that exposed all the answers. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:03:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: DM1975]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: I looked at the maps, video. That’s the building Crooks was on top of. The real shooter could have very well been in that building. Or, maybe that’s glare, etc. I couldn’t freeze it but the light seems to be after the shots Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Originally Posted By DM1975: We know Butler supposedly had a CS team in one of the buildings looking out of the window. This very well likely could be glint from one of their optics. Even if they broke site to help look for Crooks as has been said it is within possibility that they left some equipment in place like perhaps a spotting scope? But this is all speculation, on both sides of the fence. I looked at the maps, video. That’s the building Crooks was on top of. The real shooter could have very well been in that building. Or, maybe that’s glare, etc. I couldn’t freeze it but the light seems to be after the shots That’s the thing is that we just don’t know. Facts of the case are slow to come out, if ever, and everyone is drawing conclusions from whatever they can grab onto. I am not saying it is impossible that there is/was a second shooter in that window, but what I am saying is that this certainly is not absolute proof that there was. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:05:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LittleBigHorn: What don't you know? Look at Finks left arm, it looks ridiculous. Some of these conspiracy theories are getting outright stupid. Lets all think before we post. At worst, someone was in contact with the shooter ala Garland Texas (again, burner phone for a 20 year old like him makes no sense, the explosives tie in to this as well with the FBI's weird story on how they knew they weren't going to detonate). At "best", it was complete LE incompetence with a retard that has been taught to hate Trump for nearly 10 years now. I never said it was real. I think it is noteworthy. Did you read the Twitter thread?  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:21:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DM1975: That’s the thing is that we just don’t know. Facts of the case are slow to come out, if ever, and everyone is drawing conclusions from whatever they can grab onto. I am not saying it is impossible that there is/was a second shooter in that window, but what I am saying is that this certainly is not absolute proof that there was. Of course, we’ll never know the truth but we have a pretty good picture as far as I’m concerned. There will always be naysayers who are in denial, but they’ll be getting their wake up call soon enough. If Trump gets in, rounding up all the parties involved and using enhanced interrogation may get to the bottom of it, but those folks may flee or be gone in one way or another. This brings up the next question of whether they will ever let Trump get close to the WH, they’ll try again you can count on it. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:24:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: LittleBigHorn]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Advance: I never said it was real. I think it is noteworthy. Did you read the Twitter thread? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2024-07-28_14-03-19_jpg-3279273.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Advance: Originally Posted By LittleBigHorn: What don't you know? Look at Finks left arm, it looks ridiculous. Some of these conspiracy theories are getting outright stupid. Lets all think before we post. At worst, someone was in contact with the shooter ala Garland Texas (again, burner phone for a 20 year old like him makes no sense, the explosives tie in to this as well with the FBI's weird story on how they knew they weren't going to detonate). At "best", it was complete LE incompetence with a retard that has been taught to hate Trump for nearly 10 years now. I never said it was real. I think it is noteworthy. Did you read the Twitter thread? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2024-07-28_14-03-19_jpg-3279273.JPG Very shitty image analysis if it can't see such an obvious flaw.  And no, I did not read the twitter thread. If it's more batshit insane conspiracy theories like we are seeing here, then I'm not sure I want to. ETA: I clicked on the twitter thread.  There are enough legitimate issues going on with this that you don't have to go off the deep end. And by "you", I don't necessarily mean just you, it's a blanket statement to the posts here/on X wherever that are way out there. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:25:42 PM EST
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I would like to know if when Crookes went to the range for "range day training" if any other persons went repeatedly on the same days and what did they do for a job. That would be very easy to check and cross reference and would at least take speculation of him being at the same range as HLS as a thing. Or not...
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:30:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALFOX: That was most definitely 8 rounds, 3 slow then 5 fast, from the same unsuppressed AR in the same location, followed by two suppressed rifle shots. The first suppressed shot was immediately after the string of five fast shots and put Crooks down, and I suppose the second shot was an anchor shot to make sure. In my mind, this is the most convincing audio evidence putting the second shooter theory to bed. ETA: the little diagram at the end of this video is bulletin-board-yarn cuckoo. How they came to the conclusion that the video supports this is beyond me. Listened again. You have to be careful not to listen with your eyes. Although the 8 shots sound like the same direction. The first 3 sound a little different, than the 5. The 5 sound a little louder, maybe closer. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:30:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Of course, we’ll never know the truth but we have a pretty good picture as far as I’m concerned. There will always be naysayers who are in denial, but they’ll be getting their wake up call soon enough. If Trump gets in, rounding up all the parties involved and using enhanced interrogation may get to the bottom of it, but those folks may flee or be gone in one way or another. This brings up the next question of whether they will ever let Trump get close to the WH, they’ll try again you can count on it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Originally Posted By DM1975: That’s the thing is that we just don’t know. Facts of the case are slow to come out, if ever, and everyone is drawing conclusions from whatever they can grab onto. I am not saying it is impossible that there is/was a second shooter in that window, but what I am saying is that this certainly is not absolute proof that there was. Of course, we’ll never know the truth but we have a pretty good picture as far as I’m concerned. There will always be naysayers who are in denial, but they’ll be getting their wake up call soon enough. If Trump gets in, rounding up all the parties involved and using enhanced interrogation may get to the bottom of it, but those folks may flee or be gone in one way or another. This brings up the next question of whether they will ever let Trump get close to the WH, they’ll try again you can count on it. You also should take into consideration that there might be other explanations for some of these photos and that a big portion of them are either erroneous information or simply hyped up bullshit. Our minds tend to want to take us in one direction. Again, not saying it isn’t possible, but much speculation is being made and presented as proof positive. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:37:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALFOX: That was most definitely 8 rounds, 3 slow then 5 fast, from the same unsuppressed AR in the same location, followed by two suppressed rifle shots. The first suppressed shot was immediately after the string of five fast shots and put Crooks down, and I suppose the second shot was an anchor shot to make sure. In my mind, this is the most convincing audio evidence putting the second shooter theory to bed. ETA: the little diagram at the end of this video is bulletin-board-yarn cuckoo. How they came to the conclusion that the video supports this is beyond me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FALFOX: Originally Posted By turborocket:
That was most definitely 8 rounds, 3 slow then 5 fast, from the same unsuppressed AR in the same location, followed by two suppressed rifle shots. The first suppressed shot was immediately after the string of five fast shots and put Crooks down, and I suppose the second shot was an anchor shot to make sure. In my mind, this is the most convincing audio evidence putting the second shooter theory to bed. ETA: the little diagram at the end of this video is bulletin-board-yarn cuckoo. How they came to the conclusion that the video supports this is beyond me. I don't think there was a second shooter, however, until we have photos of 2 bullet entries or the autopsy report, we should not be suggesting Crooks was shot more than once. Let's keep this as objective as possible. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:39:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: OverScoped]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sledge850: I would like to know if when Crookes went to the range for "range day training" if any other persons went repeatedly on the same days and what did they do for a job. That would be very easy to check and cross reference and would at least take speculation of him being at the same range as HLS as a thing. Or not... The range he's a member of doesn't have a gate that you need to swipe a card to get in. There is a gate, it's left open during shooting hours/events. I've shot there alot.. you go in and go to the range of your choice, then you do your shooting and leave. It's a private club. The facility is very nice. Great rifle and pistol ranges, archery and nice clubhouse. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:40:53 PM EST
[Last Edit: brass]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Advance: I never said it was real. I think it is noteworthy. Did you read the Twitter thread? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2024-07-28_14-03-19_jpg-3279273.JPG His left bicep is rather long and the elbow seems to bend in a curvy sort of fashion. So while not photoshopped (what the test you used detects), it was generated by AI. It does things like put 6 fingers on hands, it really sucks with hands, and eyebrows, and hair, and.. Well, there are a lot of things it sucks with if in automatic mode. If somebody really puts time into it with parameters of what to change and how to correct changes then they are perfect fakes and you can't tell the difference if it was generated or a photo taken. Luckily, right t now, most fakes are in the automatic AI mode with "put these two people next to each other and add a gun" sort of merge. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:43:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Listened again. You have to be careful not to listen with your eyes. Although the 8 shots sound like the same direction. The first 3 sound a little different, than the 5. The 5 sound a little louder, maybe closer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyLoco: Originally Posted By FALFOX: That was most definitely 8 rounds, 3 slow then 5 fast, from the same unsuppressed AR in the same location, followed by two suppressed rifle shots. The first suppressed shot was immediately after the string of five fast shots and put Crooks down, and I suppose the second shot was an anchor shot to make sure. In my mind, this is the most convincing audio evidence putting the second shooter theory to bed. ETA: the little diagram at the end of this video is bulletin-board-yarn cuckoo. How they came to the conclusion that the video supports this is beyond me. Listened again. You have to be careful not to listen with your eyes. Although the 8 shots sound like the same direction. The first 3 sound a little different, than the 5. The 5 sound a little louder, maybe closer. Noticed this too. Could a change in shooting orientation/direction,. especially off of a metal roof explain this? Haven't ruled out a second shooter, but we need to better understand where all the bullets went. Everything I've seen seems to locate to Crooks. Who knows, maybe there was a second assassin that didn't fire.....it was kinda rushed when LE tried climbing the roof. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:45:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: DM1975]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: His left bicep is rather long and the elbow seems to bend in a curvy sort of fashion. So while not photoshopped (what the test you used detects), it was generated by AI. It does things like put 6 fingers on hands, it really sucks with hands, and eybrows, and hair, and.. Well, there are a lot of things it sucks with if in automatic mode. If somebody really puts time into it with parameters of what to change and how to correct changes then they are perfect fakes and you can't tell the difference if it was generated or a photo taken. Luckily, right t now, most fakes are in the automatic AI mode with "put these two people next to each other and add a gun" sort of merge. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By Advance: I never said it was real. I think it is noteworthy. Did you read the Twitter thread? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2024-07-28_14-03-19_jpg-3279273.JPG His left bicep is rather long and the elbow seems to bend in a curvy sort of fashion. So while not photoshopped (what the test you used detects), it was generated by AI. It does things like put 6 fingers on hands, it really sucks with hands, and eybrows, and hair, and.. Well, there are a lot of things it sucks with if in automatic mode. If somebody really puts time into it with parameters of what to change and how to correct changes then they are perfect fakes and you can't tell the difference if it was generated or a photo taken. Luckily, right t now, most fakes are in the automatic AI mode with "put these two people next to each other and add a gun" sort of merge. Yes, and that technology is getting better every day. We are getting to a point in life of where it is very very difficult to take any digital image as fact. Not that we didn’t have this problem before but it is much worse now. Couple that with some of the crappy renderings that phone cameras capture, without some form of supporting evidence one should probably look at any images from the event with a heavy dose of suspicion. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 1:55:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Advance: I never said it was real. I think it is noteworthy. Did you read the Twitter thread? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2024-07-28_14-03-19_jpg-3279273.JPG "No blurring or pixelation" Lol the entire image is blurry, looks like it was taken on an early digital camera 20ish years ago. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:01:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: Chokey]
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/failure-communication-local-swat-team-details-account-trump/story?id=112340601 |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:05:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Advance: I never said it was real. I think it is noteworthy. Did you read the Twitter thread? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2024-07-28_14-03-19_jpg-3279273.JPG If this image was real the FBI would have already interviewed Larry Fink! TRUST the FBI. 
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:40:40 PM EST
[#35]
Anyone else tired of the second shooter bullshit? It’s so tiresome.
Two incompetent shooters vs one. Please. The cover up over of the incompetence of the SS is what we should be focused on. Just my 2 cents, well 5 cents with inflation. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:44:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mac130: Anyone else tired of the second shooter bullshit? It’s so tiresome. Two incompetent shooters vs one. Please. The cover up over of the incompetence of the SS is what we should be focused on. Just my 2 cents, well 5 cents with inflation. Yes, you would think that if there were a second shooter that they would have fired when the SS let Trump stand around and shake his fist while being “covered” by his oompa loompa agents. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:46:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: If this image was real the FBI would have already interviewed Larry Fink! TRUST the FBI. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By Advance: I never said it was real. I think it is noteworthy. Did you read the Twitter thread? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/309598/2024-07-28_14-03-19_jpg-3279273.JPG If this image was real the FBI would have already interviewed Larry Fink! TRUST the FBI. It's good to post stuff like that in this thread and mark it as fake so other people don't get sucked into believing if it's even borderline questionable accurate at a glance (for people not used to spotting AI fakes). The audio is now lat enough for effects to be added making "new shooter location!" and stuff with faked audio blended into the actual clip and things like that. Try to stick with the primary sources when using for differences. "New" audio/video released now possibly could be made intentionally misleading in one way or another. Most people that had audio/video posted it in the first couple days/week after not being able to sell it, though some new might come out 2 weeks later they were really holding onto hoping to sell and finally just posted it, or figured their video was so crappy they didn't bother (and now the audio is being looked at even closer). IOW - Be wary of new audio tracks that show something markedly different than what we've heard already. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:49:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: brass]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DM1975: Yes, you would think that if there were a second shooter that they would have fired when the SS let Trump stand around and shake his fist while being “covered” by his oompa loompa agents. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DM1975: Originally Posted By mac130: Anyone else tired of the second shooter bullshit? It’s so tiresome. Two incompetent shooters vs one. Please. The cover up over of the incompetence of the SS is what we should be focused on. Just my 2 cents, well 5 cents with inflation. Yes, you would think that if there were a second shooter that they would have fired when the SS let Trump stand around and shake his fist while being “covered” by his oompa loompa agents. To be fair, I think he wanted (we needed him) to be seen as alive. Sort of like race car drivers holding arm up and waving/thumbs up/shaking their fist to show they're alive and ok after a wreck. Courtesy used to be not to take photos until sign of life but that tradition is long gone with the "blood leads" even in sports. Imagine if he didn't show proof of life and vitality, and they whisked him away unseen after he ducked, and we never saw Trump again but heard "Trump was assassinated". Don't be naive enough to think that could never happen here. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:50:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: Socio]
[#39]
According to this the FBI knew of him weeks in advance, he had 1.5 million dollars in offshore accounts, and received unexplained payments from federal accounts.
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:51:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: To be fair, I think he wanted (we needed) to be seen as alive. Sort of like race car drivers shaking their fist to show they're alive and ok after a wreck and everybody is worried. Imagine if he didn't show proof of life and vitality, and they whisked him away unseen after he ducked, and we never saw Trump again but heard "Trump was assassinated". Don't be naive enough to think that could never happen here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By DM1975: Originally Posted By mac130: Anyone else tired of the second shooter bullshit? It’s so tiresome. Two incompetent shooters vs one. Please. The cover up over of the incompetence of the SS is what we should be focused on. Just my 2 cents, well 5 cents with inflation. Yes, you would think that if there were a second shooter that they would have fired when the SS let Trump stand around and shake his fist while being “covered” by his oompa loompa agents. To be fair, I think he wanted (we needed) to be seen as alive. Sort of like race car drivers shaking their fist to show they're alive and ok after a wreck and everybody is worried. Imagine if he didn't show proof of life and vitality, and they whisked him away unseen after he ducked, and we never saw Trump again but heard "Trump was assassinated". Don't be naive enough to think that could never happen here. Oh that wasn’t saying anything about what Trump did. It’s saying what the SS didn’t do. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:52:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: Advance]
[#41]
Another notable finding. I just created a video on the laptop I am typing this from.
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:55:15 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mac130: Anyone else tired of the second shooter bullshit? It’s so tiresome. Two incompetent shooters vs one. Please. The cover up over of the incompetence of the SS is what we should be focused on. Just my 2 cents, well 5 cents with inflation. Yes I am. This is all over. 1 shooter - it was crooks - he missed b/c he wasn't very good and wasn't using the right equipment to get the job done. All the facts we have are the facts we are going to get and if anything else comes out it will just be tidbits that point to this one fact. Hate to say it but people asking from more info and facts about how all this went down are going to be disappointed. If this was some CIA op with a 2 shooter scenario they wouldn't have missed. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 2:56:43 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Socio: According to this the FBI knew of him weeks in advance, he had 1.5 million dollars in offshore accounts, and received unexplained payments from federal accounts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVslSym2nwIs there ANY source that backs up any of those claims? Please link. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 3:00:27 PM EST
[#44]
Longer version of Google search video:
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Posted: 7/28/2024 3:00:51 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolyd: Yes I am. This is all over. 1 shooter - it was crooks - he missed b/c he wasn't very good and wasn't using the right equipment to get the job done. All the facts we have are the facts we are going to get and if anything else comes out it will just be tidbits that point to this one fact. Hate to say it but people asking from more info and facts about how all this went down are going to be disappointed. If this was some CIA op with a 2 shooter scenario they wouldn't have missed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolyd: Originally Posted By mac130: Anyone else tired of the second shooter bullshit? It’s so tiresome. Two incompetent shooters vs one. Please. The cover up over of the incompetence of the SS is what we should be focused on. Just my 2 cents, well 5 cents with inflation. Yes I am. This is all over. 1 shooter - it was crooks - he missed b/c he wasn't very good and wasn't using the right equipment to get the job done. All the facts we have are the facts we are going to get and if anything else comes out it will just be tidbits that point to this one fact. Hate to say it but people asking from more info and facts about how all this went down are going to be disappointed. If this was some CIA op with a 2 shooter scenario they wouldn't have missed. Yeah I'm out. Was following since day one bui turned into conspiracy central thread. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 3:02:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: brass]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Socio: According to this the FBI knew of him weeks in advance, he had 1.5 million dollars in offshore accounts, and received unexplained payments from federal accounts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVslSym2nwIf he was given $1.5 million, why did he use about $1k worth of equipment? Was it to be donated to a friend or family member or something? Admitted/released content that he was in contact with some government agency prior? Do they have a source for that or what? It's just a computer narrated spam rant trying to look/sound official without any citation. It uses official news images and pictures of news anchors (NOT audio clips) to give the impression the information being read by computer originally came from MSM. So, that pings my "may contain disinformation and BS" light. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 3:03:27 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Socio: According to this the FBI knew of him weeks in advance, he had 1.5 million dollars in offshore accounts, and received unexplained payments from federal accounts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVslSym2nwTucker in thumbnail inexplicably. AI voiceover rambling off things and providing no citations or proof. A bunch of mostly unrelated b-roll clips as video. I mean really. 
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Posted: 7/28/2024 3:05:38 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: AI image in the thumbnail. Tucker in thumbnail inexplicably. AI voiceover rambling off things and providing no citations or proof. A bunch of mostly unrelated b-roll clips as video. I mean really. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By Socio: According to this the FBI knew of him weeks in advance, he had 1.5 million dollars in offshore accounts, and received unexplained payments from federal accounts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQVslSym2nwTucker in thumbnail inexplicably. AI voiceover rambling off things and providing no citations or proof. A bunch of mostly unrelated b-roll clips as video. I mean really. Honestly, this thread has gotten really embarrassing. I'd like to say there are obvious plants, but then I'll get called a 23er and I'm actually the plant.
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Posted: 7/28/2024 3:07:04 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeatBag: Crazy how they're already trying to bury this event. It was non stop coverage of the "insurrection" on Jan 6th for months, and our government is still committing endless evil acts against those poor people to this day. The Republicans have done fuck all since taking House. They won't hold a single one of these government criminals accountable. Please detail to the class how the House is suppose to hold people accountable. Better yet, if you were Speaker, what would you do besides, committees, hearings and grandstanding speeches that would boo'd by GD. Maybe you'll pass some useless resolutions or propose dead bills, not pass some spending bill, just to be accused of political grandstanding and playing to your base; by posters like you. |
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Posted: 7/28/2024 3:27:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: brass]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Please detail to the class how the House is suppose to hold people accountable. Better yet, if you were Speaker, what would you do besides, committees, hearings and grandstanding speeches that would boo'd by GD. Maybe you'll pass some useless resolutions or propose dead bills, not pass some spending bill, just to be accused of political grandstanding and playing to your base; by posters like you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By exDefensorMilitas: Originally Posted By MeatBag: Crazy how they're already trying to bury this event. It was non stop coverage of the "insurrection" on Jan 6th for months, and our government is still committing endless evil acts against those poor people to this day. The Republicans have done fuck all since taking House. They won't hold a single one of these government criminals accountable. Please detail to the class how the House is suppose to hold people accountable. Better yet, if you were Speaker, what would you do besides, committees, hearings and grandstanding speeches that would boo'd by GD. Maybe you'll pass some useless resolutions or propose dead bills, not pass some spending bill, just to be accused of political grandstanding and playing to your base; by posters like you. It has been doing an acceptable job by forcing the appointed Kings to answer for their actions and/or prove ineptitude on their part. If it weren't for her lack of testimony, the SS director probably wouldn't have resigned, for example. We've gotten more post-attempt information from leaks and house/senate testimony (and requested info publicized) than any other source beyond what is seen on video recorded during the event. |
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