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Link Posted: 9/17/2024 9:23:52 PM EDT
[#1]
A extremely interesting story:
Nvidia GPUs could be made 'somewhere else' if China attacks Taiwan: Jensen Huang
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang (   ) said his firm's graphics processing units (GPUs) could be made "somewhere else" if China attacks Taiwan.

During the Goldman Sachs Communacopia & Technology Conference on Sept. 11, Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon asked about the reliability of Nvidia's supply of GPUs given its dependence on Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) and the threat of a Chinese invasion. Huang responded, "If TSMC were compromised, supply would continue. Although, it wouldn't be as good," reported Business Insider.

Huang said that his firm possesses "enough intellectual property" that if the need arose to transfer production from one plant to another "we have the ability to do it." Huang cautioned that the process technology and outperformance may not be equivalent to TSMC, "but we will be able to provide the supply."

"In the event anything were to happen," the Nvidia CEO said, "we should be able to pick up and fab it somewhere else." Nevertheless, Huang emphasized that TSMC is the best semiconductor maker in the world by an "incredible margin."
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Extremely interesting, no?

Lin Wei-chih (   ), executive vice president of Witology Markettrend Research Institute, told China Times that currently, TSMC's wafer foundry technology cannot be replaced. For integrated circuit (IC) design companies such as Nvidia and AMD, it is not desirable to concentrate production capacity in a single company.

Lin said if companies want to diversify their orders, the first choice is Samsung, followed by Intel.
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Lin explained that although Samsung and Intel cannot match TSMC's yield rates in advanced manufacturing processes, large-scale production can make up for lower yields. However, the die size of a GPU is quite large, which would significantly drive up costs, said Lin.

For example, with a yield of 50%, if a single wafer is cut into four dies, only two would be usable. In addition, delivery times would be delayed.

In comparison, the likelihood of diversifying orders for advanced packaging is higher. Major testing and packaging companies like Amkor Technology might have an opportunity to take on orders, or TSMC might outsource this work themselves.
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Going to be interesting to see who goes which way and how quickly and hard. There are a couple of other considerations such as is the 3D stuff and AI stuff that China touts as good as they say it is? If they get into this game here, we can safely conclude the Chinese make shit.

Link Posted: 9/17/2024 9:24:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GoldenMead:


I am hoping we see some new flight patterns from the aircraft off the carrier.  Time will tell.  Now if someone could tell us where the other carriers are right now!
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Originally Posted By zoinks:
I wonder if any of that will show up on the MND's report. It's about 0914 there now.


I am hoping we see some new flight patterns from the aircraft off the carrier.  Time will tell.  Now if someone could tell us where the other carriers are right now!
LOL They're in the water, man!!!
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 4:24:36 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/18/2024 4:26:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/18/2024 1:06:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:06:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240918_18/
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https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20240918_18/
There's a embedded video that has an animation of the geography for those interested.
Here's the text of the report:
NHK has learned that a Chinese aircraft carrier briefly entered Japan's contiguous zone early on Wednesday.

Sources say the Liaoning sailed between two islands, Yonaguni and Iriomote, in Okinawa Prefecture, southwestern Japan.

This is the first time for a Chinese naval aircraft carrier to navigate in Japan's contiguous zone.

A contiguous zone is just outside a country's territorial waters. Under international law, vessels from other countries are allowed to travel in the contiguous zone.

But the law stipulates that the coastal state can take necessary measures to prevent illegal acts in its territorial waters.

In December 2022, the landing and departing of fighters and helicopters from the Liaoning was spotted when the ship was in the Pacific south of Okinawa.

Japan's Defense Ministry is analyzing the objective of the Liaoning's latest move and monitoring the vessel.

I'm going to juxtapose the above with this story:
US Navy P-8A Poseidon transits Taiwan Strait
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   The US Navy flew an aircraft through the Taiwan Strait on Tuesday (Sept. 17) in what it called a demonstration of "the US' commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific."

Per a US 7th Fleet statement, "By operating within the Taiwan Strait in accordance with international law, the United States upholds the navigational rights and freedoms of all nations." The US Navy P-8A Poseidon, an anti-submarine warfare aircraft, flew from south to north.

This is where it gets cool:
In response, China scrambled fighter jets to monitor and alert the US aircraft. China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) Eastern Theater Command Spokesperson Li Xi (  ) called the US military transit a "stunt" meant to provoke China.
China likewise admonished the transit: "We firmly oppose provocations and endangering of China's sovereignty and security under the banner of 'freedom of navigation.'"
Neato!!

The US military transits the Taiwan Strait about once every two months to "exercise the rights of freedom of navigation and overflight beyond the territorial sea of any coastal state." US allies like the UK and Canada have also made occasional passages.
ehhhhh, really?

The previous week, the German navy made a rare transit through the Taiwan Strait. For the first time in 20 years, Germany sent two ships "to stand with its allies to uphold international rules," per a security source.

Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:10:20 PM EDT
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Another story about the carrier:
Taiwan monitors Chinese carrier group off northeast coast
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   The Ministry of National Defense (MND) said it tracked a Chinese aircraft carrier group sailing through waters northeast of Taiwan toward Japan's Yonaguni Island on Wednesday (Sept. 18).

The MND said the Liaoning carrier group was spotted at 1:30 a.m. Wednesday heading through Taiwan's northeast waters. The Chinese vessels continued sailing to the southeast of Yonaguni, according to the MND.

Taiwan's military said it tracked the Chinese movements and sent aircraft and ships to monitor the situation.

So far this month, Taiwan has tracked 260 Chinese military aircraft and 141 vessels operating around the nation.
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and a Score Card!!
Taiwan tracks 14 Chinese ships, 9 military aircraft
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   The Ministry of National Defense (MND) tracked nine Chinese military aircraft, 13 naval vessels, and one official ship around Taiwan between 6 a.m. on Tuesday (Sept. 17) and 6 a.m. on Wednesday.

Of the nine People's Liberation Army (PLA) aircraft, six crossed the Taiwan Strait median line in the country's northern air defense identification zone (ADIZ), according to the MND.
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So far this month, Taiwan has tracked 260 Chinese military aircraft and 141 ships.
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Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:15:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zoinks:
A extremely interesting story:
Nvidia GPUs could be made 'somewhere else' if China attacks Taiwan: Jensen Huang
Extremely interesting, no?


Going to be interesting to see who goes which way and how quickly and hard. There are a couple of other considerations such as is the 3D stuff and AI stuff that China touts as good as they say it is? If they get into this game here, we can safely conclude the Chinese make shit.

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Companies are terrified of war, they want to keep the market stable. Even Taipei is telling people e wry thing is okay less they lose more Warren Buffets
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:15:20 PM EDT
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Got some follow ups on stories we've covered.
23 Taiwanese charged with spying for China
This is the follow up to the Brothers perviously convicted. This details the rest of the known spy ring:
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   Prosecutors in Tainan charged 23 individuals, including eight serving military officers, with spying for China on Wednesday (Sept. 18).

The spy ring was set up by two brothers named Hsu ( ) who attracted potential spies with the promise they could resolve their debt problems, per the Liberty Times. China reportedly paid out NT$5 million (US$156,000) over more than two years in return for sensitive information supplied by the ring.

The group included eight officers from the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, and the Coast Guard Administration. The Hsu brothers started operations in 2021, when they paid frequent visits to Macau and the adjacent Zhuhai Special Economic Zone, where they met two Chinese intelligence agents.

Each time they recruited a new member for their spy ring, the Chinese would pay them between NT$2,000 and NT$30,000, prosecutors said. They used ads and pawn shop owners to find officers with financial problems.

The military men recruited for the spy ring were stationed all over the country, but were mostly lower in rank and had limited access to important information. During the investigation, prosecutors confiscated 69 phones, 103 computer hard drives and flash drives, nine secret military documents, and one confidential government document.

In a reaction to the indictments, the Ministry of National Defense said it had taken all necessary measures to reduce the damage caused by the officers' betrayal. The defense ministry is also educating serving officers about the need to protect confidential documents, while teaching them how to improve their financial situation, the Liberty Times reported.
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This is the follow up to that one tough old bastard that claimed he was defecting:
Taiwan sentences Chinese speedboat intruder to 8 months
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   A former Chinese navy officer who arrived at the mouth of the Tamsui River in a motorboat in June was sentenced to eight months in prison Wednesday (Sept. 18).

Appeals against the verdict by the Shilin District Court are still possible. The suspect, surnamed Ruan ( ), 60, did not appear in court.

The court found him guilty of illegal entry, the Liberty Times reported. He traveled from the Chinese province of Fujian by speedboat and arrived at Tamsui ferry pier in New Taipei 12 hours after his departure, on June 9.

Ruan claimed he wanted to escape the communist-ruled country and claim political asylum in Taiwan. When he was detained, he told police the authorities in China had found news items critical of the government when they looked at his phone in May.

China had ordered him to delete the items from the phone and restricted his movements, barring him from leaving the country, he said. During his court case, he reportedly handed over a drawing of Chinese naval positions along the Fujian coast.

Investigators in Taiwan found Ruan had once served as a captain in the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN).

The verdict came less than a week after another Chinese man arrived in Taiwan's Linkou by inflatable boat after a trip from Ningbo. The coast guard said that due to its small size and slow speed, it had been difficult for radar to spot the intruder.
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We covered this second attempt as well, but nothing further has been published.
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:17:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zoinks:
A extremely interesting story:
Nvidia GPUs could be made 'somewhere else' if China attacks Taiwan: Jensen Huang
Extremely interesting, no?


Going to be interesting to see who goes which way and how quickly and hard. There are a couple of other considerations such as is the 3D stuff and AI stuff that China touts as good as they say it is? If they get into this game here, we can safely conclude the Chinese make shit.

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All I’ve heard is China wants to be but is nowhere near the US as far as AI
But that recent news about the rogue South Korean assisting China was bad news
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:28:55 PM EDT
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Next story is about the PRC applying sanctions on American companies who do receive government contracts:
China sanctions 9 US companies over arms sales to Taiwan
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   China will take countermeasures against nine US military-industrial companies after the announcement of arms sales to Taiwan.

China's foreign ministry said on Wednesday (Sept. 18) that its countermeasures include two parts. The first involves freezing the US firms' real estate and all types of property within China. The second is preventing the firms from conducting transactions and activities with domestic organizations and individuals.

According to a foreign ministry statement, the nine US companies that will face countermeasures from Beijing are: Sierra Nevada Corporation, Stick Rudder Enterprises LLC, Cubic Corporation, S3 AeroDefense, Teko TCOM, Limited Partnership, TextOre, Planate Management Group, ACT1 Federal, and Exovera.
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This report goofed up the names of some of the companies. Here's a Reuters' report that got the names right:
China hits 9 US firms with property freeze over weapons sales to Taiwan
The steps taken against the firms, including Sierra Nevada Corporation and Stick Rudder Enterprises LLC, became effective on Wednesday and will freeze their property within China, according to a foreign ministry statement.

It described the actions as countermeasures and said they also applied to Cubic Corporation, S3 Aerospace, TCOM Ltd Partnership, TextOre, Planate Management Group, ACT1 Federal and Exovera, the ministry said.

Organisations and individuals within China are prohibited from engaging in transactions with the firms, the statement said.
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A spokesperson for China's foreign ministry on Wednesday urged the United States "to immediately stop the dangerous trend of arming Taiwan."Stop conniving and supporting Taiwan independence, and stop undermining peace and stability in the Taiwan Strait," said ministry spokesperson Lin Jian at a regular press briefing.
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Back to the original story:
The countermeasures came after the US announced on Monday (Sept. 16) the approval of a possible sale of aircraft spare parts to Taiwan for US$228 million (NT$7.26 billion). Taiwan's Ministry of National Defense said the weapons will help maintain combat readiness as China's gray-zone tactics exert pressure on its air and maritime borders.

China condemned the US weapons sale, saying it violated the "one-China principle" and the three Sino-US joint communiques, and "interfered with China's internal affairs and damaged its sovereignty and territorial integrity." Under the "Anti-Foreign Sanctions Law," China said it would take countermeasures against the nine US companies.
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This will make it more difficult for China to steal IP outside of China, but they get to confiscate stuff inside China!

Let's balance that story with one that's been in my bookmark folder for ever!!!!!!
China to remove sanctions on US firm targeted for supplying Taiwan military
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   China said it is removing sanctions on U.S. communications company Viasat Inc. on Monday (July 22), on which it imposed the measures for supplying Taiwan's military.

China foreign ministry spokesperson Mao Ning (  ) said China decided to cancel the sanctions against Viasat "in view of changes in circumstances." No further details were provided.

CNA reported that this marks the first time China has lifted sanctions on a U.S. company supplying defense equipment to Taiwan. The sanctions were imposed in January after the U.S. approved an estimated US$300 million (NT$9.85 billion) in weapons sales to Taiwan, and were also applied to four other companies.
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The question is then, "Why?"
The need for a "dog and pony show" got in the way of practical matters:
Speaking at a regular press briefing, Mao was responding to questions about reports of possible business cooperation between Viasat and Chinese companies. Viasat operates subsidiaries that provide satellite communications services in China, according to Bloomberg News.
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Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:30:03 PM EDT
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China’s growing military activity makes a shift to war harder to spot, Taiwan warns

Taipei’s defence minister says his country will not have as long to respond to any emergency as in the past

Taiwan’s defence minister has warned that China’s growing military activity will make it more difficult to spot harbingers of an attack on his country.

Wellington Koo said Taiwan needed to test its ability to respond to “a potential sudden contingency” and that his country’s reaction time to an emergency “cannot be as long as we would have imagined in the past”.

“We have to think about how we differentiate between peacetime and wartime,” Koo told reporters. “The scale of [China’s military] activity is getting larger and larger, and so it is harder to discern when they might be shifting from training to a large exercise, and from an exercise to war.”

His remarks show the challenge that China’s gradual expansion of military moves below the threshold of war poses to Taiwan’s defences. They come as China’s People’s Liberation Army has ratcheted up patrols and drills near Taiwan to unprecedented levels since President Lai Ching-te took office in May.

The Chinese Communist party has denounced Lai, whose Democratic Progressive party refuses to describe Taiwan as part of China, as a “dangerous separatist”.

Taiwan’s military has registered a record 2,076 PLA incursions this year into its air defence identification zone — a self-declared buffer zone just outside its sovereign airspace.

Koo spoke after a Chinese aircraft carrier group passed through waters near Taiwan’s northern tip early on Wednesday. The group also sailed through a narrow strait between two of Japan’s southernmost islands, entering the Japanese contiguous zone — an area adjacent to its territorial waters — for the first time.

Earlier this month, the PLA conducted its largest amphibious landing drills on China’s south-east coast opposite Taiwan, an annual exercise widely seen as practising skills for invading Taiwan.

China has also been deploying increasing numbers of non-military government ships such as coastguard, marine research and maritime safety vessels in waters around Taiwan. Defence experts believe the missions gather ocean data for submarine warfare and simulate coercive measures that could be used in a blockade.

Koo said Taiwan’s armed forces needed to use its observations of PLA behaviour to build scenarios for its own exercises.

Taipei is under pressure to show determination to strengthen its defences, amid concerns that the US could become less committed to supporting the country’s security if Donald Trump wins the US presidential election.

Under the Taiwan Relations Act, Washington considers any effort to determine Taiwan’s future by non-peaceful means as an issue of grave concern to the US. The law commits Washington to providing Taiwan with defensive weapons and to maintaining US capacity to resist coercion that would jeopardise Taiwan’s security.


However Trump recently said that Taiwan should pay the US for defence because “we’re no different than an insurance company [and] Taiwan doesn’t give us anything”.

While Lai’s cabinet has proposed a 7.7 per cent increase in defence spending to NT$647bn for next year, the figure marks a slight drop in terms of gross domestic product, from 2.5 per cent this year to 2.45 per cent.


Koo, the head of the National Security Council under Lai’s predecessor Tsai Ing-wen, took office in May and has pushed the country’s armed forces to make training more realistic and cut bureaucracy.
https://www.ft.com/content/3402d159-418c-4485-abb4-7e2155288d61
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:31:08 PM EDT
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Here's Dessert:
Former US secretary of state reaffirms Taiwan sovereignty
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   Beijing's claim that Taiwan is part of China is a falsehood, Mike Pompeo, a Hudson Institute distinguished fellow and former US secretary of state, said at a Hudson Institute event on Tuesday (Sept. 17).

Pompeo expressed pride in redefining US policy toward Taiwan by decoupling Taiwan-US relations from the US-China framework during his term as secretary of state, Liberty Times reported. He also pointed out that he is the only high-ranking US official in nearly half a century to call on the US government to restore diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

The former official hoped more of his colleagues inside and outside the government would follow his lead, making this the priority for new US policies and foreign affairs.

Pompeo said Taiwan is a sovereign, independent country and that every American should easily recognize this basic fact. He added that the Chinese Communist Party works hard to dismiss this fact because the party knows it is an undeniable truth.

He called on supporters of Taiwan to continue working together to maintain peace, stability, and justice throughout the Indo-Pacific region and beyond.

During a visit to Taipei in May, Pompeo said the US must strengthen regional partnerships including Taiwan to counter the Chinese threat.
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Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:32:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zoinks:
Yes, xd; it is a big deal. In fact, es ist vieleicht am groessten deal! I can't make an s-set with my keyboard. Hold on. in the past Character Map couldn't make certain symbols with arfcom. Maybe it's different now!

Yes, xd; it is a big deal. In fact, es ist vieleicht am gr  sten deal. If that doesn't show up, then let's go with "molto enorme."

And it's this for the following reason:
It means International Socialism is dead!!

The Europe is actually a pretty fascist land mass led by socialist party after socialist party.

China is a hyper-capitalistic state led by a communist party that can't get it's socialist act together.

There isn't a communist alive today that believes the "State will wither away." This is because there isn't a communist alive today that's going to give up political power for any reason.

Oh, I just realized that I haven't given a definition for International Socialism. In the early days of te 19th Century, these were the guys that believed in violent revolution to overthrow the various political regimes of their day.

Then came the Fabians, who wanted to take power through voting, and you can read that as no violent revolution.

And lastly we have the National Socialists who as a matter of pragmatism tend to form the "nation" around ethnic lines i.e. the pan-Germanic National Socialist German Workers Party, of Stalin in the USSR who was busy creating a pan-Slavic Nation instead of spreading international revolution every where like Trotsky wanted to do.

AND eventually, the Chinese will emerge as also National Socialists, but rest assured it will be okay when they do it.

So, yes, xd341!!!! It's a big deal!!!!!!!!!!!! We need to celebrate it somehow and avoid an alcoholic induced black out!! I'm not certain that's possible.
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Point of order: China checks all the boxes for fascism.
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:34:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:

All I've heard is China wants to be but is nowhere near the US as far as AI
But that recent news about the rogue South Korean assisting China was bad news
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
Originally Posted By zoinks:
A extremely interesting story:
Nvidia GPUs could be made 'somewhere else' if China attacks Taiwan: Jensen Huang
Extremely interesting, no?


Going to be interesting to see who goes which way and how quickly and hard. There are a couple of other considerations such as is the 3D stuff and AI stuff that China touts as good as they say it is? If they get into this game here, we can safely conclude the Chinese make shit.


All I've heard is China wants to be but is nowhere near the US as far as AI
But that recent news about the rogue South Korean assisting China was bad news
What's going to be telling is whether the PRC floods companies with potential employees, or uses their established holding companies to buy up outright or go for a majority interest in some of the development companies. It's going to take a lot of money. Their Third Plenum probably didn't cover this aspect. They'll have to struggle to find the money whatever plan they do. Could turn out to be a  half-assed operation and therefore there's very little return for the CCP.
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:51:28 PM EDT
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I read this one this morning, and it's another "don't ever change, Reuters," story.

The only real take away is that both the US and China are slowing down with their orders. There's an old say that "when the US sneezes, the rest of the World catches a Cold." It's been more the rule than the exception in my life time. However, this story is a "doom" story. The numbers are mixed like they are most of the time. It's rare when everything looks and goes up. Eventually, it won't. Not the end of the World.

Japan on the other hand, has never recovered from their version of a Command Economy of post WWII. Russia has never recovered from its Command Economy for that matter. Their cultures are heading to self-destruction like here and most of the developed World. The not so developed and the under-developed worlds are always at a level of self-destruction, just waiting for something to tip it.

There's a thin line between any dichomoty, civilisation/barbarism or peace/war, whatever you can think of. That's the World we live in. Been this way in the beginning; it'll be this way at the end.
This is just offered for perspective.
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:53:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By zoinks:
I read this one this morning, and it's another "don't ever change, Reuters," story.

The only real take away is that both the US and China are slowing down with their orders. There's an old say that "when the US sneezes, the rest of the World catches a Cold." It's been more the rule than the exception in my life time. However, this story is a "doom" story. The numbers are mixed like they are most of the time. It's rare when everything looks and goes up. Eventually, it won't. Not the end of the World.

Japan on the other hand, has never recovered from their version of a Command Economy of post WWII. Russia has never recovered from its Command Economy for that matter. Their cultures are heading to self-destruction like here and most of the developed World. The not so developed and the under-developed worlds are always at a level of self-destruction, just waiting for something to tip it.

There's a thin line between any dichomoty, civilisation/barbarism or peace/war, whatever you can think of. That's the World we live in. Been this way in the beginning; it'll be this way at the end.
This is just offered for perspective.
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Originally Posted By GoldenMead:
China's growing military activity makes a shift to war harder to spot, Taiwan warns

Taipei's defence minister says his country will not have as long to respond to any emergency as in the past

Taiwan's defence minister has warned that China's growing military activity will make it more difficult to spot harbingers of an attack on his country.

Wellington Koo said Taiwan needed to test its ability to respond to "a potential sudden contingency" and that his country's reaction time to an emergency "cannot be as long as we would have imagined in the past".

"We have to think about how we differentiate between peacetime and wartime," Koo told reporters. "The scale of [China's military] activity is getting larger and larger, and so it is harder to discern when they might be shifting from training to a large exercise, and from an exercise to war."

His remarks show the challenge that China's gradual expansion of military moves below the threshold of war poses to Taiwan's defences. They come as China's People's Liberation Army has ratcheted up patrols and drills near Taiwan to unprecedented levels since President Lai Ching-te took office in May.

The Chinese Communist party has denounced Lai, whose Democratic Progressive party refuses to describe Taiwan as part of China, as a "dangerous separatist".

Taiwan's military has registered a record 2,076 PLA incursions this year into its air defence identification zone   a self-declared buffer zone just outside its sovereign airspace.

Koo spoke after a Chinese aircraft carrier group passed through waters near Taiwan's northern tip early on Wednesday. The group also sailed through a narrow strait between two of Japan's southernmost islands, entering the Japanese contiguous zone   an area adjacent to its territorial waters   for the first time.

Earlier this month, the PLA conducted its largest amphibious landing drills on China's south-east coast opposite Taiwan, an annual exercise widely seen as practising skills for invading Taiwan.

China has also been deploying increasing numbers of non-military government ships such as coastguard, marine research and maritime safety vessels in waters around Taiwan. Defence experts believe the missions gather ocean data for submarine warfare and simulate coercive measures that could be used in a blockade.

Koo said Taiwan's armed forces needed to use its observations of PLA behaviour to build scenarios for its own exercises.

Taipei is under pressure to show determination to strengthen its defences, amid concerns that the US could become less committed to supporting the country's security if Donald Trump wins the US presidential election.

Under the Taiwan Relations Act, Washington considers any effort to determine Taiwan's future by non-peaceful means as an issue of grave concern to the US. The law commits Washington to providing Taiwan with defensive weapons and to maintaining US capacity to resist coercion that would jeopardise Taiwan's security.


However Trump recently said that Taiwan should pay the US for defence because "we're no different than an insurance company [and] Taiwan doesn't give us anything".

While Lai's cabinet has proposed a 7.7 per cent increase in defence spending to NT$647bn for next year, the figure marks a slight drop in terms of gross domestic product, from 2.5 per cent this year to 2.45 per cent.


Koo, the head of the National Security Council under Lai's predecessor Tsai Ing-wen, took office in May and has pushed the country's armed forces to make training more realistic and cut bureaucracy.
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Originally Posted By GoldenMead:
China's growing military activity makes a shift to war harder to spot, Taiwan warns

Taipei's defence minister says his country will not have as long to respond to any emergency as in the past

Taiwan's defence minister has warned that China's growing military activity will make it more difficult to spot harbingers of an attack on his country.

Wellington Koo said Taiwan needed to test its ability to respond to "a potential sudden contingency" and that his country's reaction time to an emergency "cannot be as long as we would have imagined in the past".

"We have to think about how we differentiate between peacetime and wartime," Koo told reporters. "The scale of [China's military] activity is getting larger and larger, and so it is harder to discern when they might be shifting from training to a large exercise, and from an exercise to war."

His remarks show the challenge that China's gradual expansion of military moves below the threshold of war poses to Taiwan's defences. They come as China's People's Liberation Army has ratcheted up patrols and drills near Taiwan to unprecedented levels since President Lai Ching-te took office in May.

The Chinese Communist party has denounced Lai, whose Democratic Progressive party refuses to describe Taiwan as part of China, as a "dangerous separatist".

Taiwan's military has registered a record 2,076 PLA incursions this year into its air defence identification zone   a self-declared buffer zone just outside its sovereign airspace.

Koo spoke after a Chinese aircraft carrier group passed through waters near Taiwan's northern tip early on Wednesday. The group also sailed through a narrow strait between two of Japan's southernmost islands, entering the Japanese contiguous zone   an area adjacent to its territorial waters   for the first time.

Earlier this month, the PLA conducted its largest amphibious landing drills on China's south-east coast opposite Taiwan, an annual exercise widely seen as practising skills for invading Taiwan.

China has also been deploying increasing numbers of non-military government ships such as coastguard, marine research and maritime safety vessels in waters around Taiwan. Defence experts believe the missions gather ocean data for submarine warfare and simulate coercive measures that could be used in a blockade.

Koo said Taiwan's armed forces needed to use its observations of PLA behaviour to build scenarios for its own exercises.

Taipei is under pressure to show determination to strengthen its defences, amid concerns that the US could become less committed to supporting the country's security if Donald Trump wins the US presidential election.

Under the Taiwan Relations Act, Washington considers any effort to determine Taiwan's future by non-peaceful means as an issue of grave concern to the US. The law commits Washington to providing Taiwan with defensive weapons and to maintaining US capacity to resist coercion that would jeopardise Taiwan's security.


However Trump recently said that Taiwan should pay the US for defence because "we're no different than an insurance company [and] Taiwan doesn't give us anything".

While Lai's cabinet has proposed a 7.7 per cent increase in defence spending to NT$647bn for next year, the figure marks a slight drop in terms of gross domestic product, from 2.5 per cent this year to 2.45 per cent.


Koo, the head of the National Security Council under Lai's predecessor Tsai Ing-wen, took office in May and has pushed the country's armed forces to make training more realistic and cut bureaucracy.
https://www.ft.com/content/3402d159-418c-4485-abb4-7e2155288d61
This is new to me at least:
The Chinese Communist party has denounced Lai, whose Democratic Progressive party refuses to describe Taiwan as part of China, as a "dangerous separatist".

Link Posted: 9/18/2024 10:56:11 PM EDT
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Point of order: China checks all the boxes for fascism.
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Yes, xd; it is a big deal. In fact, es ist vieleicht am groessten deal! I can't make an s-set with my keyboard. Hold on. in the past Character Map couldn't make certain symbols with arfcom. Maybe it's different now!

Yes, xd; it is a big deal. In fact, es ist vieleicht am gr  sten deal. If that doesn't show up, then let's go with "molto enorme."

And it's this for the following reason:
It means International Socialism is dead!!

The Europe is actually a pretty fascist land mass led by socialist party after socialist party.

China is a hyper-capitalistic state led by a communist party that can't get it's socialist act together.

There isn't a communist alive today that believes the "State will wither away." This is because there isn't a communist alive today that's going to give up political power for any reason.

Oh, I just realized that I haven't given a definition for International Socialism. In the early days of te 19th Century, these were the guys that believed in violent revolution to overthrow the various political regimes of their day.

Then came the Fabians, who wanted to take power through voting, and you can read that as no violent revolution.

And lastly we have the National Socialists who as a matter of pragmatism tend to form the "nation" around ethnic lines i.e. the pan-Germanic National Socialist German Workers Party, of Stalin in the USSR who was busy creating a pan-Slavic Nation instead of spreading international revolution every where like Trotsky wanted to do.

AND eventually, the Chinese will emerge as also National Socialists, but rest assured it will be okay when they do it.

So, yes, xd341!!!! It's a big deal!!!!!!!!!!!! We need to celebrate it somehow and avoid an alcoholic induced black out!! I'm not certain that's possible.

Point of order: China checks all the boxes for fascism.
Yes, sir. We can debate whether it's all of the boxes or a majority of them, but so do most countries actually.

Giovanni Gentile and Benito Mussolini had the plan!!
Link Posted: 9/18/2024 11:43:34 PM EDT
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I hope this isn’t true. Taiwan’s military only has 4,000 drones.  Here’s a thread of tweets from a reporter that was with Taiwans defense minister today.
Link Posted: 9/19/2024 12:35:22 AM EDT
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I hope this isn’t true. Taiwan’s military only has 4,000 drones.  Here’s a thread of tweets from a reporter that was with Taiwans defense minister today.
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They have multiple buys ongoing

example https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/06/19/asia/taiwan-us-drones-sale-intl-hnk-ml

But everyone needs as many as possible along with anti drone too
Link Posted: 9/19/2024 6:13:42 AM EDT
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Carmel's favorite unit, 11th Airborne, jumping into Sumatra - with Japanese paratroopers

https://www.defensenews.com/land/2024/09/18/airborne-assault-comes-to-super-garuda-shield-exercise-in-indonesia/

The multinational element has greatly expanded, with eight full participating nations not including the U.S. and Indonesia – Australia, Canada, France, Japan, Singapore, South Korea, United Kingdom and New Zealand. Twelve other nations provided observers who also participated in a staff exercise.

Also new this year, with the Air Force bringing in assets like C-130 aircraft and the 25th ID bringing a Combat Aviation Brigade with two CH-47F Chinook cargo helicopters, the exercise had a fully combined Aviation Task Force that helped in critical operations like pushing the logistics tail in the archipelago.


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Carmel's favorite unit, 11th Airborne, jumping into Sumatra - with Japanese paratroopers

https://www.defensenews.com/land/2024/09/18/airborne-assault-comes-to-super-garuda-shield-exercise-in-indonesia/

The multinational element has greatly expanded, with eight full participating nations not including the U.S. and Indonesia – Australia, Canada, France, Japan, Singapore, South Korea, United Kingdom and New Zealand. Twelve other nations provided observers who also participated in a staff exercise.

Also new this year, with the Air Force bringing in assets like C-130 aircraft and the 25th ID bringing a Combat Aviation Brigade with two CH-47F Chinook cargo helicopters, the exercise had a fully combined Aviation Task Force that helped in critical operations like pushing the logistics tail in the archipelago.


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If youre not SOF or aviation but like traveling the 173rd which used to be in Okinawa or the 11th Abn is where it’s at

Link Posted: 9/19/2024 8:44:40 AM EDT
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https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2024/09/04/2003823234
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China has too much influence over the United States for Biden to do anything significant and effective. Between China owning a fairly large portion of US Treasury debt and Walmart and Apple’s reliance on Chinese labor and materials Biden and Harris won’t do shit.
Link Posted: 9/19/2024 5:24:40 PM EDT
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I gots time for one quick hit!!!
This is literally one of the most definitive things I've heard from the Department of State in 3 years and 10 months:
US deputy secretary of state agrees China misusing UN Resolution 2578
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   US Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell commented on UN Resolution 2758 during a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing on Wednesday (Sept. 18).

The resolution recognized the People's Republic of China as the only legitimate government of China and made it a permanent member of the UN Security Council, replacing the Republic of China (Taiwan). In recent years, Beijing has used its interpretation of 2758 to lay claim over Taiwan. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has repeatedly protested Beijing's claims.  

Campbell agreed that China is using the resolution to "make the argument that somehow Taiwan's status is illegitimate..."
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Now, we just have to get those same words into the UN through the US Ambassador to the UN, some chick named Linda, and maybe we got something going!!!!

He also reiterated US commitment to Taiwan, saying, "We try to clarify in all of our engagements the nature of our policy towards Taiwan." Bilateral ties are based on the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA), the six assurances, and the three communiques, he said.

This framework has allowed for an "unprecedented level" of peace in the Taiwan Strait, the official said. "It's given us the capacity and the framework to engage on a complex issue."

On the Chinese military threat toward Taiwan, Campbell pointed out that the TRA gives the US the capacity to help resist aggression in the Western Pacific. The US has provided a substantial amount of aid to its partners in the Indo-Pacific, he said.

He called Taiwan a "highly resilient" nation and said, "I do believe that they recognize that many countries stand with them."
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In May, Campbell underscored the US' strong concerns over China's "destabilizing actions" around Taiwan during a meeting with Chinese Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs Ma Zhaoxu (   ). Beijing's actions "erode the status quo that has maintained regional peace and stability for decades," he said.
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I'm of the opinion, as I have issued from my podium several times, that while the PRC will probaby attack everyone in the South China Sea, they waited too long. Last year was the Optimum Year. Thank God the CCP is led by old women. Sure, they'll get lots of people killed, but in the end, it will be seen as futile; Xi will be branded as a "mad man" and removed from Power. It'll be a couple of generations to reset after that for sure.
Link Posted: 9/19/2024 10:04:35 PM EDT
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Chief of Naval Operations Navigation Plan for America’s Warfighting Navy 2024

CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS DISCUSSES HER PRIORITIES FOR AMERICA'S WARFIGHTING NAVY AND HER STRATEGIC GUIDANCE FOR HOW THE NAVY WILL BE READY FOR SUSTAINED HIGH-END JOINT AND COMBINED COMBAT BY 2027.

https://www.navy.mil/Portals/1/CNO/NAVPLAN2024/Files/CNO_NAVPLAN_2024_50Sat.pdf?ver=wcI10aP6LiEoojJZz-2qXA%3d%3d

For anyone who’s interested.
Link Posted: 9/20/2024 12:09:28 AM EDT
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Score Card:
Taiwan tracks 28 Chinese military aircraft, 9 naval ships
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   The Ministry of National Defense (MND) tracked 28 Chinese military aircraft and nine naval vessels around Taiwan between 6 a.m. on Thursday (Sept. 19) and 6 a.m. on Friday.

Of the 28 People's Liberation Army (PLA) aircraft, 26 crossed the Taiwan Strait median line in the nation's northern, central, and southwestern air defense identification zone (ADIZ), according to the MND.
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So far this month, Taiwan has tracked 308 Chinese military aircraft and 160 ships.
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We've obviously have not had all the information. For reasons unknown to us, around 20+ aircraft have not been reported publically.
I'm going to use my imagination. The most obvious choice is that somehow the PLA got Hugh Hefner's old plane, plus Jeffrey Epsteins, and many others. That's why we didn't notice.
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Yet the US refused to allow South Korea to bid on the new John Lewis class fleet replenishment oiler’s. South Korea said they could build them for half the cost and deliver them in half the time as GD NASSCO who got the contract.
Link Posted: 9/20/2024 9:27:02 PM EDT
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Chief of Naval Operations Navigation Plan for America's Warfighting Navy 2024

CHIEF OF NAVAL OPERATIONS DISCUSSES HER PRIORITIES FOR AMERICA'S WARFIGHTING NAVY AND HER STRATEGIC GUIDANCE FOR HOW THE NAVY WILL BE READY FOR SUSTAINED HIGH-END JOINT AND COMBINED COMBAT BY 2027.

https://www.navy.mil/Portals/1/CNO/NAVPLAN2024/Files/CNO_NAVPLAN_2024_50Sat.pdf?ver=wcI10aP6LiEoojJZz-2qXA%3d%3d

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I could never resolve the address, Brother.

I found this one that works for me:
Chief of Naval Operations discusses her priorities for America's Warfighting Navy and her strategic guidance for how the Navy will be ready for sustained high-end Joint and Combined combat by 2027.

Hell of a title!!

Here's the NAVPLAN directly:
NAVPLAN
Link Posted: 9/20/2024 9:34:10 PM EDT
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Sprinkled in with that, there's this!!
China has patiently waited 70 years to do what to Taiwan?

The author, British journalist, editor, academic, political commentator, author,  and typical Boys Boarding School Alum, Martin Jacques, uttered this horse shit in Beijing and then gave hand jobs to every male there in typical "stiff upper lip" tradition:
According to news reports, Jacques said "Mao Zedong (   ) once said China can wait a hundred years to resolve the Taiwan question," and followed up his comment by suggesting that patience and steadfastness is the best strategy.

The comment seems to imply that since China has been waiting so patiently for 70 years, Beijing should be forgiven for taking action to resolve the "Taiwan question." In other words, the world should be understanding if China decides to invade and annex Taiwan, and support China's actions. After all, poor China has held back the impulse to do so for so many years.

Seen this way, this comment is serving as a thinly veiled justification for war.
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There's a lot more criticism in store for this "Twit of the Year" contest winner, but at the end of the article, there's this:
For imperialist powers, history is always no more than a tool, as are foreign scholars willing to toe the line.
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That's not a bad line!
Link Posted: 9/20/2024 9:36:12 PM EDT
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It's almost 0940 there, and no Flight Tracker!!!! Curses!!!

Here's a little something to tide us over:
Taiwan records 23 illegal entries from China since June
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   Since June, 23 Chinese have entered Taiwan illegally, but two of them escaped, Ocean Affairs Council (OAC) Minister Kuan Bi-ling (   ) told lawmakers Friday (Sept. 20).

The minister, whose jurisdiction includes the Coast Guard Administration, said there had been four incidents of Chinese nationals arriving in Taiwan without the required documentation. The Coast Guard detained 21 people involved in two incidents, but in two other cases, officers failed to apprehend the two suspects, per CNA.

Kuan said her ministry had opened discussions with other government department to strengthen observation capabilities at sea and in the air, including the use of uncrewed vehicles. She predicted the effort would require extensive spending.

Coast Guard officers deserved praise from the public because they performed a difficult task under tough circumstances, Kuan said. If there were mistakes, officers would face suitable disciplinary action, she added.

On Wednesday (Sept. 18), a court sentenced a former Chinese Navy officer who entered the Tamsui River by speedboat in June to eight months in prison. The Coast Guard had failed to notice him due to intense shipping traffic in the area and because of the limited size of his vessel.
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Yet the US refused to allow South Korea to bid on the new John Lewis class fleet replenishment oiler's. South Korea said they could build them for half the cost and deliver them in half the time as GD NASSCO who got the contract.
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Yet the US refused to allow South Korea to bid on the new John Lewis class fleet replenishment oiler's. South Korea said they could build them for half the cost and deliver them in half the time as GD NASSCO who got the contract.
No flight tracker!!! going back to watching MST3K and "The Lost Continent."

I couldn't get that video working, so here's another link that worked for me:
The World's Largest Shipyard Is Helping the U.S. Catch Up to China's Navy

Buona Sera, Signore! Ciao!!
Link Posted: 9/21/2024 6:44:12 AM EDT
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No flight tracker!!! going back to watching MST3K and "The Lost Continent."

I couldn't get that video working, so here's another link that worked for me:
The World's Largest Shipyard Is Helping the U.S. Catch Up to China's Navy

Buona Sera, Signore! Ciao!!
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Originally Posted By GoldenMead:


Yet the US refused to allow South Korea to bid on the new John Lewis class fleet replenishment oiler's. South Korea said they could build them for half the cost and deliver them in half the time as GD NASSCO who got the contract.
No flight tracker!!! going back to watching MST3K and "The Lost Continent."

I couldn't get that video working, so here's another link that worked for me:
The World's Largest Shipyard Is Helping the U.S. Catch Up to China's Navy

Buona Sera, Signore! Ciao!!


Pretty sure congress has to change the law, but all this is from 30 years of neglect of shipbuilding by the Navy and Congress.

Link Posted: 9/21/2024 12:02:50 PM EDT
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Pretty sure congress has to change the law, but all this is from 30 years of neglect of shipbuilding by the Navy and Congress.

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Originally Posted By zoinks:
Originally Posted By GoldenMead:


Yet the US refused to allow South Korea to bid on the new John Lewis class fleet replenishment oiler's. South Korea said they could build them for half the cost and deliver them in half the time as GD NASSCO who got the contract.
No flight tracker!!! going back to watching MST3K and "The Lost Continent."

I couldn't get that video working, so here's another link that worked for me:
The World's Largest Shipyard Is Helping the U.S. Catch Up to China's Navy

Buona Sera, Signore! Ciao!!


Pretty sure congress has to change the law, but all this is from 30 years of neglect of shipbuilding by the Navy and Congress.

Tis my understanding as well. The video said it was a 1965 law that "hull" had to be built in the US of A which means getting South Koreans here, AND as an added bonus, we're still reaping the benefits of the "Peace Dividend!"
Swear to God, Brother...2X4 to the back of everyone's head that wanted that piece of shit legislation.
Link Posted: 9/21/2024 12:13:19 PM EDT
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Score Card!!!
Taiwan tracks 7 Chinese military aircraft, 6 naval ships
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   The Ministry of National Defense (MND) tracked seven Chinese military aircraft and six naval vessels around Taiwan between 6 a.m. on Friday (Sept. 20) and 6 a.m. on Saturday.

Of the seven People's Liberation Army (PLA) aircraft, five crossed the Taiwan Strait median line in the country's northern and central air defense identification zone (ADIZ), according to the MND.
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New Pattern!!! Wings at the ends of the loop!!! I'm thinking they're (PLAAF) are just putting on a show now. I'm sure having been in an Air Force myself, there's only so many times you can practice going straight, make a left turn count to 30 and make another left turn, then land before you get bored as fuck.
So far this month, Taiwan has tracked 315 Chinese military aircraft and 166 ships.
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As you can tell from the "count and the amount" (Dialing for Dollars reference; gots to keep it fresh!), the MND is not publishing all reports for some reason. We'll just have to do our best to keep up.


Now!! Hold on to your seats for this story:
US plans US$567 million in security aid for Taiwan
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Mind blowing!! The law is written, passed and awaiting a signature all within a couple of weeks...and it's for Taiwan!!
TAIPEI (Taiwan News)   The Pentagon is preparing to send US$567 million (NT$18.13 billion) in immediate security aid to Taiwan, reports said Saturday (Sept. 21).

According to Defense News, the US will ship the aid from its own stocks with the Pentagon having approved the package, which is now waiting for President Biden's signature. Anonymous sources told the publication the president was likely to sign off on the package by the end of September, before the end of the current fiscal year.

The security items will include drones, anti-armor weapons, training, stockpiles, air defense, and "multi-domain awareness," Defense News reported. The Pentagon allegedly planned a much smaller amount, but senior administration officials meeting during the summer pushed for larger numbers, leading to the US$567 million in aid.

The Department of Defense is also working on a third drawdown aid package for Taiwan, which is expected to be completed before Biden leaves office in January 2025, according to the report.

In April, Congress approved US$1.9 billion to replenish arms stocks in the Indo-Pacific, with the largest share expected to benefit Taiwan. A US$1.4 billion package for Taiwan was approved during the summer, but never publicly revealed, Defense News reported.

The Pentagon added US$228 million in aircraft spare parts in an announcement on Sept. 16. The deal was the 16th arms sale by the US to Taiwan since the Biden administration took office in early 2021.
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You read that correctly! April!!!! The Admin has been sitting on it since April. Still!!!!! It's good news.
Link Posted: 9/21/2024 12:58:26 PM EDT
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Taiwan tracks 7 Chinese military aircraft, 6 naval ships
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New Pattern!!! Wings at the ends of the loop!!! I'm thinking they're (PLAAF) are just putting on a show now. I'm sure having been in an Air Force myself, there's only so many times you can practice going straight, make a left turn count to 30 and make another left turn, then land before you get bored as fuck.
As you can tell from the "count and the amount" (Dialing for Dollars reference; gots to keep it fresh!), the MND is not publishing all reports for some reason. We'll just have to do our best to keep up.


Now!! Hold on to your seats for this story:
US plans US$567 million in security aid for Taiwan
Mind blowing!! The law is written, passed and awaiting a signature all within a couple of weeks...and it's for Taiwan!!
You read that correctly! April!!!! The Admin has been sitting on it since April. Still!!!!! It's good news.
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Well good news and bad news. Bad news first as always. We keep giving away weapons and munitions faster than we can replace them, hence the pentagon bulking at a large delivery.   Good news. Taiwan is actually getting something.

Next question.  Why the urgency now? Congress already authorized a $ amount the president could draw down. So why didn’t they do it this spring or summer?  What’s changed in the equation?
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Biden, 'Quad' leaders to talk maritime security as China tensions grow
The oddest thing about this story is that Reuters didn't include any statement from the CCP or PRC government!! Reuters didn't even make the attempt!!
There isn't anyone in the by-line with a Chinese Familial name either. However, the article has an anti-trump warning as it carries unrelated information to the thesis. So...there's that! Don't ever change, Reuters!!!

WASHINGTON, Sept 20 (Reuters) - Tensions brewing in Asia's trade-rich waters top the agenda as U.S. President Joe Biden welcomes leaders from Australia, India and Japan to his Delaware hometown for a diplomatic push to counter China in the waning months of his presidency.

Biden headed to Wilmington, Delaware, on Friday ahead of the Quad Leaders Summit, where the leaders are expected to speak about conflict between Beijing and its neighbors in the South China Sea who have repeatedly clashed over disputed territory, U.S. officials told Reuters.

On the agenda: stepped-up security cooperation in the Indian Ocean and progress to track illegal fishing fleets operating in the waters of the Indo-Pacific, most of which were Chinese.

Biden is set to hand over the presidency after a Nov. 5 election that will deliver the White House to his vice president, Kamala Harris, or Republican Donald Trump, who has vowed a confrontational approach with China and voiced skepticism about traditional U.S. alliances.
"hand over" Day is 20JAN24.

Biden welcomed Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese to his personal home on Friday evening, the first in a series of one-on-one meetings closed to press.
"You'll see a number of different signs throughout this meeting and the deliverables that the Quad is a bipartisan institution that is here to stay," a senior U.S. official said.

The Quad is also expected to discuss health security, cancer treatment, technology and infrastructure measures.

Biden has vowed to compete with China without letting their differences veer into conflict, and he is set to speak again soon with Chinese President Xi Jinping. But his desire to focus on the relationship with China has been sidetracked by conflict in the Middle East and the war in Ukraine.

Xi has objected to the Quad grouping, seeing it as an effort to encircle Beijing and ramp up conflict.

"It's no secret that this is a partnership that, although it is not against China, seeks to offer alternatives to China," the senior Biden administration official said.

Here's a healthy injection of "wishful thinking":
"A new Quad maritime security initiative would send a very strong signal to China, that its maritime bullying is unacceptable, and that it would be met with coordinated action by this coalition of like-minded nations," said Lisa Curtis, an Asia policy expert at the Center for a New American Security and former U.S. administration official.

Such a move, which could involve the Coast Guard, would demonstrate that there is a security element to the Quad, despite Indian sensitivities on the need for the grouping to avoid the defense domain, Curtis said.
US Coast Guard doesn't have the ships to cover South China Sea or the Indian Ocean and can't do both...not unless everyone pretends USCG boats are now ships! Then they could dominate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Transgenderism For The Win!!!!


This is the very interesting part of this story:
"China's recent maritime aggression, could be changing the equation for India, and could be prompting India to become a bit more open to the idea of Quad security cooperation," she said.

Trump has said he plans to meet Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi next week. India plans to host the next Quad meeting, an early expected stop for whoever wins the United States election in November.
Just as a reminder, it wasn't until the Indian Navy started patrolling the Staight of Malacca that the CCP controlled piracy of the area ended.

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Well good news and bad news. Bad news first as always. We keep giving away weapons and munitions faster than we can replace them, hence the pentagon bulking at a large delivery.   Good news. Taiwan is actually getting something.

Next question.  Why the urgency now? Congress already authorized a $ amount the president could draw down. So why didn't they do it this spring or summer?  What's changed in the equation?
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Taiwan tracks 7 Chinese military aircraft, 6 naval ships
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1737/4845688d85dd4de2874134d0ba5eaa71_jpg-3328373.JPG
New Pattern!!! Wings at the ends of the loop!!! I'm thinking they're (PLAAF) are just putting on a show now. I'm sure having been in an Air Force myself, there's only so many times you can practice going straight, make a left turn count to 30 and make another left turn, then land before you get bored as fuck.
As you can tell from the "count and the amount" (Dialing for Dollars reference; gots to keep it fresh!), the MND is not publishing all reports for some reason. We'll just have to do our best to keep up.


Now!! Hold on to your seats for this story:
US plans US$567 million in security aid for Taiwan
Mind blowing!! The law is written, passed and awaiting a signature all within a couple of weeks...and it's for Taiwan!!
You read that correctly! April!!!! The Admin has been sitting on it since April. Still!!!!! It's good news.


Well good news and bad news. Bad news first as always. We keep giving away weapons and munitions faster than we can replace them, hence the pentagon bulking at a large delivery.   Good news. Taiwan is actually getting something.

Next question.  Why the urgency now? Congress already authorized a $ amount the president could draw down. So why didn't they do it this spring or summer?  What's changed in the equation?
I had the same question!!  

Best answer I have now, and admittedly it's a weak answer, is that two things have happened that actually help Joe Biden and his susceptibility to pressure from the CCP: Hunter changed his pleading to "guilty", and Joe is no longer running for President. Neither Hunter, nor Joe are on CCP payroll anymore and haven't been for over a year. Plus, Joe isn't smart enough to recognize Chinese threats like Obama could. Allow me to give you an example.

It's kind of a long example, so I'll put it in a spoiler do-dad:
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Joe no longer has a pressure point that can be pressed by the CCP. He has dementia, knows he has dementia, and every day he gives a little less of a "shit" than the day before. With people like Joe Biden, when he can't make money in some hidden deal, why not do what's right! What the hell!! He's off of China's payroll!!

Admittedly, a weak answer, but from the outside looking in, it at least makes sense circumstantially.

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Maybe if China repeats this a billion times it will get them what they want

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/us-arm-sales-taiwan-violate-one-china-principle-china-says-2024-09-20/

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I’ve been arguing for 2 years it has, not across the board but stuff like air defense.
Yesterday some Israeli news https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-820938    quoted an Israeli in their national security staff complaining about transferring ammunition from Israel to Ukraine as well, although an Israeli General in the same article laid matters at the feet of prior Israel Defense budget decisions.
But air defense is clearly in short supply worldwide

https://kyivindependent.com/russia-must-feel-its-going-to-lose-zelenskys-victory-plan-explained/



https://www.airandspaceforces.com/more-aid-ukraine-air-defense-zelenskyy-allies/


Link Posted: 9/21/2024 6:52:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:

I’ve been arguing for 2 years it has, not across the board but stuff like air defense.
Yesterday some Israeli news https://m.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-820938    quoted an Israeli in their national security staff complaining about transferring ammunition from Israel to Ukraine as well, although an Israeli General in the same article laid matters at the feet of prior Israel Defense budget decisions.
But air defense is clearly in short supply worldwide
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/more-aid-ukraine-air-defense-zelenskyy-allies/

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I need to find a video of Jake Sullivan speaking two days ago.  He said last year he made the decision to send Ukraine every patriot interceptor that was being produced. So we are not filling orders to Allies like Taiwan.  Seconds later he said it still wasn’t enough interceptors to meet just Ukraine's needs.  Not sure how a National Security Advisor gets to make those decisions but he is.  You’ve been right the last 10 years.
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