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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:09:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And a lot of poor and lower middle class still get in line to vote for this BS. Retards. But wait, it gets better! They'll keep voting for the Dems, despite Biden fucking them over, hard, several times within his first year in power.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:12:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And they'll fall for it again. And we'll fall for the R's lies again, too. People have a hard time admitting everything they've been told is a lie. Its easier to have hope and keep it status quo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No one with half a brain believed the Democrats were not raising taxes on anyone making less than $400K. Sadly the majority in this country are dumbass's. And they'll fall for it again. And we'll fall for the R's lies again, too. People have a hard time admitting everything they've been told is a lie. Its easier to have hope and keep it status quo. Exactly, that's why I don't vote. Just a waste of time. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:13:33 AM EDT
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Tipping is a stupid practice when used for income and should be done away with.
Add the cost of labor into the meal and then let society decide if they want to eat out and leave anything additional. That being said the Democrats love a weaponized IRS. They'll make criminals out of everyone. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:14:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh we know they're coming after us, that goes without saying. It's just delicious schadenfreude to watch the the folks who overwhelmingly voted for this get nailed Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:  if you guys bagging on waitress tips think that these new 87,000 IRS agents are not going to be looking square at you and your taxes.They are going after the ultra rich! Yay! They are going after waitress tips! Yay! LOL..the whole time they are actually going after YOU! Oh we know they're coming after us, that goes without saying. It's just delicious schadenfreude to watch the the folks who overwhelmingly voted for this get nailed Back when this was being talked about. A fair percentage of our membership was for this because they believed it was only going after the rich.  |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:16:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Churches never asked to be tax exempt. Churches were made tax exempt on the condition they no longer endorsed political candidates or policies. I personally would love it if my church was taxed so we could form an explicitly religious party and if elected start passing some laws that will really piss off the left, liberals, and libertarians. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Now do churches. Also, I hope "waiters" enjoy the hard and fast screwing. They are overwhelmingly the ones calling for a "living wage" and vote heavily for this crap. Churches never asked to be tax exempt. Churches were made tax exempt on the condition they no longer endorsed political candidates or policies. I personally would love it if my church was taxed so we could form an explicitly religious party and if elected start passing some laws that will really piss off the left, liberals, and libertarians. Based. Secularism is fake, gay and unnatural. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:16:40 AM EDT
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"Nobody is coming after your tips. We just need common sense tip control"
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:17:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesnt matter, Fidel won every election with 90% of the vote. Last I check Maduro is still in power, Errogan is still in power, Putin is still in power, Hey lets check how the democrats do in local elections in LA, San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, DC, Baltimore, hey would you look at that still in power 30 years later. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: With more people being red pulled it’s going to be glorious watching the dems tell them how great the party is and how they are for the working class. Doesnt matter, Fidel won every election with 90% of the vote. Last I check Maduro is still in power, Errogan is still in power, Putin is still in power, Hey lets check how the democrats do in local elections in LA, San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, DC, Baltimore, hey would you look at that still in power 30 years later. Just vote harder. Attached File |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:25:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Attacking the base I see.... LOL Red Voters are obselete. 
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:27:40 AM EDT
[#9]
EAT THE RICH, am I right?
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:28:47 AM EDT
[#10]
TIP THREAD!
Too much tipping just encourages the IRS to steal more. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:31:17 AM EDT
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87,000 new agents all vying to keep their dental insurance intact.
Turnips prepare to be squozen. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:40:58 AM EDT
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Meh, the "tipping" and waiters/waitresses is just a distraction and headline grabber.
What they really meant to say was "Anyone who is generally paid in cash". The guy that (used) to cut my hair? He only took cash. The hairdresser my SO uses? Cash only. Nail places? Lots of cash. Spas? A decent amount of cash, especially 'tips'. All of these 'antique' stores? Cash preferred (with a discount) although check/card if necessary. Lawn guys? Gutter cleaning? Around here all illegals and they much prefer cash over checks / cards. Painters? Same. I even have a couple of 'small time' mechanics that work on my older vehicles that are pretty much cash only. Sometimes they'll take a check if they have to. Same thing with the small job fixit guys. Deck? Shed? One or two electric circuits? Minor plumbing? Cash is king. It was never about the "rich" that's just for the idiot masses. It's all about the undeclared income. Unless of course you are here illegally. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:41:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I should make this a copypasta because I am continually amazed by the number of freedom-hating rule-followers, socialists, blue-liners, glowies, etc., etc. on a website that, on the surface, is conservatively focused. Here are multiple posters advocating for the IRS to clamp down on what, for the most part, are low-wage entry-level workers. Just a thought: that cash money generated in the "underground economy" is a small but possibly significant part of the economy as a whole. I'm sure 100% of that money goes right back into the economy for goods and services. I do think that people are reacting to the sentiment that the "underground economy", as it people who work for cash SHOUDLN'T have to pay taxes though. The only way we can get more people to understand how bad the existing taxation is, is to stop letting them be insulated from existing tax laws. A true conservative knows that the money made by people both in and not in the "underground economy" goes right back into the general economy anyway. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:48:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, the "tipping" and waiters/waitresses is just a distraction and headline grabber. What they really meant to say was "Anyone who is generally paid in cash". The guy that (used) to cut my hair? He only took cash. The hairdresser my SO uses? Cash only. Nail places? Lots of cash. Spas? A decent amount of cash, especially 'tips'. All of these 'antique' stores? Cash preferred (with a discount) although check/card if necessary. Lawn guys? Gutter cleaning? Around here all illegals and they much prefer cash over checks / cards. Painters? Same. I even have a couple of 'small time' mechanics that work on my older vehicles that are pretty much cash only. Sometimes they'll take a check if they have to. Same thing with the small job fixit guys. Deck? Shed? One or two electric circuits? Minor plumbing? Cash is king. It was never about the "rich" that's just for the idiot masses. It's all about the undeclared income. Unless of course you are here illegally. It can't be about the top 10%. There isn't enough to pick from. They have planning and lawyers, there won't be much to find. Common sense says they're coming after pass through entities and anybody with a side hustle. Those are the most auditable/common situations. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 10:51:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh, the "tipping" and waiters/waitresses is just a distraction and headline grabber. What they really meant to say was "Anyone who is generally paid in cash". The guy that (used) to cut my hair? He only took cash. The hairdresser my SO uses? Cash only. Nail places? Lots of cash. Spas? A decent amount of cash, especially 'tips'. All of these 'antique' stores? Cash preferred (with a discount) although check/card if necessary. Lawn guys? Gutter cleaning? Around here all illegals and they much prefer cash over checks / cards. Painters? Same. I even have a couple of 'small time' mechanics that work on my older vehicles that are pretty much cash only. Sometimes they'll take a check if they have to. Same thing with the small job fixit guys. Deck? Shed? One or two electric circuits? Minor plumbing? Cash is king. It was never about the "rich" that's just for the idiot masses. It's all about the undeclared income. Unless of course you are here illegally. My oldest boy tutors a kid a couple of times a week, 25 per session, he travels to them. Mom wanted to pay him via a Chase app, told him to say no, cash only. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 11:02:23 AM EDT
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That's why every local, state and federal agency loves when we pay using any form of electronic payment system rather than cash.
They can track every cent, cash not so much. 1984 arrived late. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 3:42:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because it’s theft? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This.. I don't give cash tips, credit card only hoping that they will be taxed on their tip income. The articles on this topic say even then taxes aren't being paid on tips given by credit card. I've known several waitresses that made a killing in tips, and none of it was reported as income. Why should a waitress making 60-80,000 or more not pay taxes on their tips when the kid at Ace Hardware or Home Depot pays taxes on their income with a much lower salary. Because it’s theft? Because the waitress may spend it at the local farmer’s market, in your local feed store, for her kid’s tuition to get a degree in nursing, or at her friend’s beauty salon- Where it goes straight to other people that work for a living. Not for section 8 and EBT to someone that spends each day smoking weed and pumping out kids. Or at least to pay for her own weed and support her own kids. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 3:52:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You didn't answer the question. Why is it ok for some people to cheat on their taxes but not other people? And why should the rest of us go overboard to make sure that enforcement of existing tax laws don't touch certain classes of people? Its not as though people are finding a loophole here. Underreporting income and knowingly filing a false tax return can get you into trouble. These people voted for anal exams, they just didn't think they would be the ones bending over. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This.. I don't give cash tips, credit card only hoping that they will be taxed on their tip income. The articles on this topic say even then taxes aren't being paid on tips given by credit card. I've known several waitresses that made a killing in tips, and none of it was reported as income. Why should a waitress making 60-80,000 or more not pay taxes on their tips when the kid at Ace Hardware or Home Depot pays taxes on their income with a much lower salary. Because it's theft? Why is it ok for some people to cheat on their taxes but not other people? And why should the rest of us go overboard to make sure that enforcement of existing tax laws don't touch certain classes of people? Its not as though people are finding a loophole here. Underreporting income and knowingly filing a false tax return can get you into trouble. These people voted for anal exams, they just didn't think they would be the ones bending over. I guess there is something wrong with me. Because when I the farrier comes and I pay him in cash, or a guy drops off a load of hay and I pay in cash, or I pick up a transmission I had rebuilt and pay in cash, or the guy that shows up and puts in a couple hundred feet of fence and I pay in cash, or I buy some berries, vegetables, and jam at a family’s roadside stand and I pay in cash, I hope with every fiber of being in my heart they are just keeping all of it and using what would have went to the government to keep their truck running, tractor going, splurge on the honeymoon they never had, get their kid braces, etc. instead of it ending up paying the salary of some grifting pedophile or race baiter to further destroy the country. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 5:23:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're not wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: EITC needs to be eliminated. You're not wrong. We're in agreement. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 5:36:05 PM EDT
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The tax bracket on tips should be 20%, just like they charge the 1% that is involved in the stock market.
 I mean, 20% is the new normal right?
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Posted: 2/10/2023 5:43:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The funny part is, this will be almost inconsequential to the overall federal revenue situation. It's not like this will balance any budgets. Yup. This is dated but I doubt much has changed. 1/10th of 1 percent of the population pays 20% of all the taxes, and they are not baristas... 
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Posted: 2/10/2023 5:44:34 PM EDT
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I thought those new agents were only going after millionaires? Huh...
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Posted: 2/10/2023 5:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back when this was being talked about. A fair percentage of our membership was for this because they believed it was only going after the rich. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: if you guys bagging on waitress tips think that these new 87,000 IRS agents are not going to be looking square at you and your taxes.They are going after the ultra rich! Yay! They are going after waitress tips! Yay! LOL..the whole time they are actually going after YOU! Oh we know they're coming after us, that goes without saying. It's just delicious schadenfreude to watch the the folks who overwhelmingly voted for this get nailed Back when this was being talked about. A fair percentage of our membership was for this because they believed it was only going after the rich. Anyone who actually believes that 87000 new IRS agents is to go after the Uber rich is simply too stupid to talk to. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 5:59:27 PM EDT
[#24]
Pretty simple. If you voted for Biden you should suffer as much as humanly possible. I mean loss of everything you own. Prison. Pain on steroids.
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Posted: 2/10/2023 7:44:34 PM EDT
[#25]
Jesus fuck. We founded this country based on taxation without representation, and now we’re paying over half of our income to taxes and government fees in one form or another, and you dicks are defending the government.
Some of you all are gonna have a real wake up call when this society finally crashes and burns and you have to survive without the federal government to guide your every action. If a man does work for you or provides a product, it isn’t the government’s God damn business. Could you imagine the founding fathers watching every single citizen having to pay a professional to do their annual taxes, and still have to worry about an audit under penalty of imprisonment? This shit and those of you who support it make my blood boil. You’re some real Un-Americans. Move back to the UK if you want that lifestyle. I wouldn’t piss on fire to save a single IRS agent. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:01:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jesus fuck. We founded this country based on taxation without representation, and now we’re paying over half of our income to taxes and government fees in one form or another, and you dicks are defending the government. Some of you all are gonna have a real wake up call when this society finally crashes and burns and you have to survive without the federal government to guide your every action. If a man does work for you or provides a product, it isn’t the government’s God damn business. Could you imagine the founding fathers watching every single citizen having to pay a professional to do their annual taxes, and still have to worry about an audit under penalty of imprisonment? This shit and those of you who support it make my blood boil. You’re some real Un-Americans. Move back to the UK if you want that lifestyle. I wouldn’t piss on fire to save a single IRS agent. Just did your taxes? No one likes paying taxes. There is a lot of waste in the government. People are gaming the system and getting away with it. Not reporting all your TIPS is relatively small time. When you add in the idea of staying below the government freebie limits it can add up fast. I am not saying that everyone is doing it but I bet there are more people doing it than you think. Fifteenth or twenty years ago I heard coworkers talking about how to get free health insurance. The company paid for 80% of our insurance at the time. One lady was telling the other to apply for state insurance omitting the company offered insurance. She also was told not to report that her boyfriend lived with them. I don’t know if the lady applied for free insurance or not. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:02:29 PM EDT
[#27]
Biden Crack Down has more than one obvious meaning.
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Posted: 2/10/2023 8:17:37 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess there is something wrong with me. Because when I the farrier comes and I pay him in cash, or a guy drops off a load of hay and I pay in cash, or I pick up a transmission I had rebuilt and pay in cash, or the guy that shows up and puts in a couple hundred feet of fence and I pay in cash, or I buy some berries, vegetables, and jam at a family’s roadside stand and I pay in cash, I hope with every fiber of being in my heart they are just keeping all of it and using what would have went to the government to keep their truck running, tractor going, splurge on the honeymoon they never had, get their kid braces, etc. instead of it ending up paying the salary of some grifting pedophile or race baiter to further destroy the country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This.. I don't give cash tips, credit card only hoping that they will be taxed on their tip income. The articles on this topic say even then taxes aren't being paid on tips given by credit card. I've known several waitresses that made a killing in tips, and none of it was reported as income. Why should a waitress making 60-80,000 or more not pay taxes on their tips when the kid at Ace Hardware or Home Depot pays taxes on their income with a much lower salary. Because it's theft? Why is it ok for some people to cheat on their taxes but not other people? And why should the rest of us go overboard to make sure that enforcement of existing tax laws don't touch certain classes of people? Its not as though people are finding a loophole here. Underreporting income and knowingly filing a false tax return can get you into trouble. These people voted for anal exams, they just didn't think they would be the ones bending over. I guess there is something wrong with me. Because when I the farrier comes and I pay him in cash, or a guy drops off a load of hay and I pay in cash, or I pick up a transmission I had rebuilt and pay in cash, or the guy that shows up and puts in a couple hundred feet of fence and I pay in cash, or I buy some berries, vegetables, and jam at a family’s roadside stand and I pay in cash, I hope with every fiber of being in my heart they are just keeping all of it and using what would have went to the government to keep their truck running, tractor going, splurge on the honeymoon they never had, get their kid braces, etc. instead of it ending up paying the salary of some grifting pedophile or race baiter to further destroy the country. Nothing wrong with you. I do business the same way. And, as with you, I find it gratifying to know that 100% of that cash is going back into the (probably local) economy. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 9:44:07 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess there is something wrong with me. Because when I the farrier comes and I pay him in cash, or a guy drops off a load of hay and I pay in cash, or I pick up a transmission I had rebuilt and pay in cash, or the guy that shows up and puts in a couple hundred feet of fence and I pay in cash, or I buy some berries, vegetables, and jam at a family's roadside stand and I pay in cash, I hope with every fiber of being in my heart they are just keeping all of it and using what would have went to the government to keep their truck running, tractor going, splurge on the honeymoon they never had, get their kid braces, etc. instead of it ending up paying the salary of some grifting pedophile or race baiter to further destroy the country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This.. I don't give cash tips, credit card only hoping that they will be taxed on their tip income. The articles on this topic say even then taxes aren't being paid on tips given by credit card. I've known several waitresses that made a killing in tips, and none of it was reported as income. Why should a waitress making 60-80,000 or more not pay taxes on their tips when the kid at Ace Hardware or Home Depot pays taxes on their income with a much lower salary. Because it's theft? Why is it ok for some people to cheat on their taxes but not other people? And why should the rest of us go overboard to make sure that enforcement of existing tax laws don't touch certain classes of people? Its not as though people are finding a loophole here. Underreporting income and knowingly filing a false tax return can get you into trouble. These people voted for anal exams, they just didn't think they would be the ones bending over. I guess there is something wrong with me. Because when I the farrier comes and I pay him in cash, or a guy drops off a load of hay and I pay in cash, or I pick up a transmission I had rebuilt and pay in cash, or the guy that shows up and puts in a couple hundred feet of fence and I pay in cash, or I buy some berries, vegetables, and jam at a family's roadside stand and I pay in cash, I hope with every fiber of being in my heart they are just keeping all of it and using what would have went to the government to keep their truck running, tractor going, splurge on the honeymoon they never had, get their kid braces, etc. instead of it ending up paying the salary of some grifting pedophile or race baiter to further destroy the country. If someone isn't following the law, that's entirely on them. The risk is theirs to take. We all have to evaluate our own risk. From a practical standpoint, everyone should understand what the IRS says about unreported cash earnings, and not be overly surprised when they come looking for their due. I don't go after people or report them. The truth of the matter is it's every man for himself when the IRS comes calling. That farmer you pay cash to, or the mechanic for example, you aren't going to pay his tax bills if he gets fined. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 11:11:25 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. This is dated but I doubt much has changed. 1/10th of 1 percent of the population pays 20% of all the taxes, and they are not baristas... https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/FT_17.10.04_taxes_stats.png This shows an important concept that a lot of people don’t understand. When they get in on the hate for the “top 1%” not paying their fair share. It’s slight misleading because when you the top 0.1 to 0.01% types have way more wealth protected from taxes. Alternative compensation, foundations, trusts, grants, political rent seeking arrangements, tax credits, etc. When you look at the numbers from the perspective of how much of their income does not get counted as income, etc. instead of what percentage of overall income taxes they pay, they truly have an effective tax rate that is a minuscule fraction compared to any of the other percentile groups. |
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Posted: 2/10/2023 11:15:25 PM EDT
[#31]
I was told it was all about going after the millionaires & billionaires. What happened to that?
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Posted: 2/11/2023 1:54:53 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who actually believes that 87000 new IRS agents is to go after the Uber rich is simply too stupid to talk to. I giggled back then when pointing out the fall points. Look at this thread. |
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Posted: 2/11/2023 10:10:29 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Jesus fuck. We founded this country based on taxation without representation, and now we’re paying over half of our income to taxes and government fees in one form or another, and you dicks are defending the government. Some of you all are gonna have a real wake up call when this society finally crashes and burns and you have to survive without the federal government to guide your every action. If a man does work for you or provides a product, it isn’t the government’s God damn business. Could you imagine the founding fathers watching every single citizen having to pay a professional to do their annual taxes, and still have to worry about an audit under penalty of imprisonment? This shit and those of you who support it make my blood boil. You’re some real Un-Americans. Move back to the UK if you want that lifestyle. I wouldn’t piss on fire to save a single IRS agent. We're not defending the government, we're laughing at all the upset little socialists who vote to take others money but have gamed the system themselves for decades who now have the government they voted in going after them. |
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Posted: 2/11/2023 10:26:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Might be controversial to say but I was listening to some restaurant owner talk about this on the radio and I was thinking : while taxation is theft if they are taxing every dollar I make why not people who are earning over half their wages “off the books”?
Personally I think they should do away with federal income tax and instead institute a federal sales tax. This would encourage saving and also capture taxes from all the unclaimed or illicit income when it is spent. Or let’s just do away with tipping totally. Make the restaurant owner pay a real wage and pass those costs on to consumers. It’s a fucked up system from the get go. |
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Posted: 2/11/2023 1:11:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Tagged / bump
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Posted: 2/11/2023 1:28:52 PM EDT
[#36]
Cash tip only.
If paying by card put $1.00 on the receipt leave cash at the table. FIRS FJB |
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Posted: 2/12/2023 4:24:25 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Cash tip only. If paying by card put $1.00 on the receipt leave cash at the table. FIRS FJB Just went out last night. It was, gasp, a chain instead of a local place. At a local place I tend to pay just cash and tip in cash. At a chain I put the bill on a CC. It’s paid off each month and we earn dime back. Put zero on for a tip in the card, Then left the cash tip. What is the reason for putting $1 on the card- Is it something they can report and is backed up by a receipt? |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:48:06 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You didn't answer the question. Why is it ok for some people to cheat on their taxes but not other people? And why should the rest of us go overboard to make sure that enforcement of existing tax laws don't touch certain classes of people? Its not as though people are finding a loophole here. Underreporting income and knowingly filing a false tax return can get you into trouble. These people voted for anal exams, they just didn't think they would be the ones bending over. You sound like you were the kid who always reminded the teacher that homework had been assigned. |
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