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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:23:05 PM EDT
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Dont worry guys, all those "cold dead hands" guys will be out in the streets. You just watch.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:23:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:24:00 PM EDT
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Same here. Guy who made that comment (@ShadowAngel) is pathetic and just part of the larger problem. Wanna talk about slow? Let's talk... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Again for the slow. Imagine an america right now where trump had lost. Hillary making the calls. Democrat house. Possibly dem senate. 2 new liberal judges on the court. Trump isn't perfect, but he's a fuckload better than the alternative. There is no excuse for this, if it comes to pass. Fucking none!  Guy who made that comment (@ShadowAngel) is pathetic and just part of the larger problem. Wanna talk about slow? Let's talk... Your username is remarkably on point. Your head is in the sand. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:27:01 PM EDT
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Cheapo wooden bump fire stick 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:27:12 PM EDT
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But that doesn't apply. They aren't saying "it's now illegal to have owned it" they are saying "it's always been illegal, we just didn't enforce it until now." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:27:26 PM EDT
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For arguments sake, did we lose our freedoms and not give one inch when DIAS's, lightning links and Atkins accelerator stocks were deemed machine guns, it wasn't an EO however it impinged upon your freedoms, where was the out cry then? ATF made you a felon if you had a spring to the accelerator stock, weren't they telling the manufacturer to give them a list of owners and you had to turn them in? If you have an unregistered DIAS or LL in your AR, you're a felon. What's the difference? I want to know. Before my gal lost and stupid plastic toy, answer the question, I'm curios. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: "Sorry your gal lost." "It's just a stupid toy." etc etc ATF made you a felon if you had a spring to the accelerator stock, weren't they telling the manufacturer to give them a list of owners and you had to turn them in? If you have an unregistered DIAS or LL in your AR, you're a felon. What's the difference? I want to know. Before my gal lost and stupid plastic toy, answer the question, I'm curios. 2. The legal definition they seem to be trying to change to make bumpstocks fall into a category isn’t even the proper way these things function. Their shit is all fucked up in the terminology and you have people falling over themselves to line up for this crap because it’s “not their sacrificial lamb” being slaughtered this time. Hope hunting rifle scopes are next....”nobody needs to shoot over 500 yards to kill a deeeeah!”. Military grade optics have no place in a civil society! |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:28:54 PM EDT
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Binary triggers are next The House Dems already have a bill that outlaws sale and advertising of 80% lowers, uppers and any part for all semi-automatics. It's a virtual ban on all semi-automatics; a Trojan horse in the guise of making 3D guns illegal. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:31:32 PM EDT
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Guaranteed one term president if this goes through.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:31:45 PM EDT
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Is she going to thank Donald Trump too? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/trump_donations1_PNG-755010.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
Is she going to thank Donald Trump too? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/trump_donations1_PNG-755010.JPG the above was frequently pushed by the nevertrumpers, to convince people that Trump was a stealth dem Trump has actually been relatively evenhanded in doling out cash to the two parties, but since 1989, he's contributed over $350,000 more to Republicans running for federal and state offices, campaign finance records show.
Data from the Federal Election Commission and state elections offices provided by the two websites show that Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years. The difference in donations is almost entirely captured in Trump's recent giving. Since 2012, Trump has donated $463,450 to Republicans and just $3,500 to Democrats (California Attorney General Kamala Harris and New York Assemblyman Michael Benedetto). of course, you will push this again, when you start actively pushing for harris/ocasio cortez for 2020, right ryan ruck? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:32:00 PM EDT
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What 2 regulations did he get rid of for him to sign this gem? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:34:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: nevertrumpers have to lie and mis-represent everything like usual the above was frequently pushed by the nevertrumpers, to convince people that Trump was a stealth dem https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/09/ben-ferguson/donald-trumps-campaign-contributions-democrats-and/ of course, you will push this again, when you start actively pushing for harris/ocasio cortez for 2020, right ryan ruck? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:38:45 PM EDT
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nevertrumpers have to lie and mis-represent everything like usual the above was frequently pushed by the nevertrumpers, to convince people that Trump was a stealth dem https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/09/ben-ferguson/donald-trumps-campaign-contributions-democrats-and/ of course, you will push this again, when you start actively pushing for harris/ocasio cortez for 2020, right ryan ruck? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is she going to thank Donald Trump too? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/trump_donations1_PNG-755010.JPG the above was frequently pushed by the nevertrumpers, to convince people that Trump was a stealth dem Trump has actually been relatively evenhanded in doling out cash to the two parties, but since 1989, he's contributed over $350,000 more to Republicans running for federal and state offices, campaign finance records show.
Data from the Federal Election Commission and state elections offices provided by the two websites show that Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years. The difference in donations is almost entirely captured in Trump's recent giving. Since 2012, Trump has donated $463,450 to Republicans and just $3,500 to Democrats (California Attorney General Kamala Harris and New York Assemblyman Michael Benedetto). of course, you will push this again, when you start actively pushing for harris/ocasio cortez for 2020, right ryan ruck? Too slow to know when they're getting fucked in the ass by yet another Republican, too slow to know what the word "never" means.  Attached FilePresident Harris thanks you for supportting a big donor and early supporter of hers. Without support like that she'd never have made the national stage! |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:39:08 PM EDT
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nevertrumpers have to lie and mis-represent everything like usual the above was frequently pushed by the nevertrumpers, to convince people that Trump was a stealth dem https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/09/ben-ferguson/donald-trumps-campaign-contributions-democrats-and/ of course, you will push this again, when you start actively pushing for harris/ocasio cortez for 2020, right ryan ruck? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is she going to thank Donald Trump too? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/trump_donations1_PNG-755010.JPG the above was frequently pushed by the nevertrumpers, to convince people that Trump was a stealth dem Trump has actually been relatively evenhanded in doling out cash to the two parties, but since 1989, he's contributed over $350,000 more to Republicans running for federal and state offices, campaign finance records show.
Data from the Federal Election Commission and state elections offices provided by the two websites show that Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years. The difference in donations is almost entirely captured in Trump's recent giving. Since 2012, Trump has donated $463,450 to Republicans and just $3,500 to Democrats (California Attorney General Kamala Harris and New York Assemblyman Michael Benedetto). of course, you will push this again, when you start actively pushing for harris/ocasio cortez for 2020, right ryan ruck?  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:39:29 PM EDT
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As long as Wayne LaPierre's $4,000 duck guns are safe, I guess we still have a country. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:40:44 PM EDT
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+1 People sit at home and bitch, then when elections don't go their way they want to pull out guns and start acting like ANTIFA Here is an idea, how about get involved politically and make sure the (R) on the ticket isn't a jackwagon. I know, I know, it will involve leaving mom's basement... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only 0.03% of gun owners bother to show up 2nd Amendment rallies. If 99.97% of gun owners can't even bother to do that...do you really think of them will stand their ground and fight? People sit at home and bitch, then when elections don't go their way they want to pull out guns and start acting like ANTIFA Here is an idea, how about get involved politically and make sure the (R) on the ticket isn't a jackwagon. I know, I know, it will involve leaving mom's basement... Even then you have to have some kind of realistic political goal and not just rant because it feels good. A great example are all the "conservative" arfcommers that spent months trying to get everyone to send a message to the Florida GOP. Flipping Nelson's seat would be a huge victory and would make supreme court nominations much easier, and the next FL governor is going to appoint like four state supreme court justices but people here decided to spend 50+ pages of arguing that the Democrats winning wouldn't be a big deal. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:41:17 PM EDT
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Starting to think there really is something to the underscore usernames. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: nevertrumpers have to lie and mis-represent everything like usual the above was frequently pushed by the nevertrumpers, to convince people that Trump was a stealth dem https://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jul/09/ben-ferguson/donald-trumps-campaign-contributions-democrats-and/ of course, you will push this again, when you start actively pushing for harris/ocasio cortez for 2020, right ryan ruck? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:41:28 PM EDT
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But that doesn't apply. They aren't saying "it's now illegal to have owned it" they are saying "it's always been illegal, we just didn't enforce it until now." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:41:49 PM EDT
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If no one turns any in, that sends a clear message.
That and the lawsuits that need to follow. I think bumpstocks are gay and stupid but if an owner dies for theirs they have my respect. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:43:36 PM EDT
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@NoloContendre Any paperwork ready to be filed?
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:43:42 PM EDT
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Good thing I burned all mine in the fireplace to keep warm during the last cold snap.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:44:07 PM EDT
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All you "don't comply" guys are totally full of shit. You'll comply, for the exact same reason you don't own other illegal weapons. Yes someone will sue, and lose... because the .gov's justification for banning bump stocks is identical to their regulating/outlawing full-auto. "Just compensation " may be a problem for their plan though. But easily fixed. Being gay is ok now too, but I have still managed to not suck a dick. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:44:27 PM EDT
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FDJT
In all honesty, this should be a fairly simple lawsuit to win--if you can find a fair judge. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:44:34 PM EDT
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Why does this thread show up twice on my screen?
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:46:05 PM EDT
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Starting to think there really is something to Republicans that would support a Republican president doing something I'd expect from a Democrat. But I'd still vote for him again if the options are between Trump and any Democrat. Because as bad as you think you're getting fucked now, with a Democrat it would have been a hundred times worse. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:49:51 PM EDT
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Yep cold dead hands and all. Now is when the Gov sees how committed folks are to their gun rights before deciding whether to go for a bigger grab. This. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:50:18 PM EDT
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Thats called "Cost of doing business". We elected a businessman, not a politician. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That was only 2 year before 2016 and not a single R on the list.   |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:50:39 PM EDT
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We need multiple states to set-up second amendment zones. These areas offer protection to those with undocumented firearms and components like sanctuary cities do with illegal immigrants...
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:52:55 PM EDT
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Nobody was a bigger Trump acolyte than me. Nobody!
But Trump doesn't have the balls to call out the Army Corps of Engineers to build the wall? Or declassify FISA Docs/Assign a special prosecutor? (he just said yesterday there are things in the FISA docs that Americans just shouldn't see because they are so bad) But he's got the juice to ban weapons/parts via executive order without getting anything in return? So officially, I am done with this motherfucker. FUCK TRUMP. I am divorced. He's gonna be a one-termer. What a fucking CLOWN. I hate to admit that I was duped because I love my country so much I wanted to believe. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:53:14 PM EDT
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Damn. No compensation. That's a lot of moola down the drain for some of those guys. 5th Amendment "nor be obliged to relinquish his property, where it may be necessary for public use, without just compensation" |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:53:42 PM EDT
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I don't support it. At all. I've flat out said as much. It's a huge mistake. But I'd still vote for him again if the options are between Trump and any Democrat. Because as bad as you think you're getting fucked now, with a Democrat it would have been a hundred times worse. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Starting to think there really is something to Republicans that would support a Republican president doing something I'd expect from a Democrat. But I'd still vote for him again if the options are between Trump and any Democrat. Because as bad as you think you're getting fucked now, with a Democrat it would have been a hundred times worse. You've studied the art of Demotivational Management well!  Despair, Inc. - The Art of Demotivation: "Addressing Employee Complaints" |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:53:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't support it. At all. I've flat out said as much. It's a huge mistake. But I'd still vote for him again if the options are between Trump and any Democrat. Because as bad as you think you're getting fucked now, with a Democrat it would have been a hundred times worse. Republicans would have neutered Hitlery like they did Obama. Presidents really don't matter that much. congress does and Congress usually flips R under a Democrat. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:54:45 PM EDT
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I have never had a president be in office in my life that I have been happy with 100% of what they do, I don't like this bump stock bullshit, but I still would not vote for a fucking democrat.
Also, you may think they are toys, or gay or what ever, but the gun community needs to learn how to show a united front when we say no, instead of the constant bickering. This is not just about bump stocks, it is about changing how the United States is governed! Look at the big picture folks, even some of the democrats including one of the worst of the witches of the west is saying this is not a good idea! This is about a country, not just one item. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:54:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So all of us businessmen who have been adversely affected by the Trump Tariffs are free to donate to any Democrat that wants to get rid of them. Thanks for your support. 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:55:27 PM EDT
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Here's the map for your proposed zone: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/510SWSRqbrL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need multiple states to set-up second amendment zones. These areas offer protection to those with undocumented firearms and components like sanctuary cities do with illegal immigrants... https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/510SWSRqbrL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:57:24 PM EDT
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Ah, the old "It Could Be Worse" program! You've studied the art of Demotivational Management well!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBdU9v5nLKQ |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:58:24 PM EDT
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Most gun owners have no other choice. Most Typical gun owners talk, I got mine fuck everyone else attitude. The attitude that kills rights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Awe the beauty of it, I don't go to public ranges, ever, I honestly don't know anyone in my area that goes to public ranges either. Typical gun owners talk, I got mine fuck everyone else attitude. The attitude that kills rights. However when NOLO starts taking names and kicking ass I’ll be in for about $500.00 of ass kicking. I will do what I can to thwart this bullshit. Just say the words @NoloContendre |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:00:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1. Bumpstocks do not make a gun a machine gun. 2. The legal definition they seem to be trying to change to make bumpstocks fall into a category isn’t even the proper way these things function. Their shit is all fucked up in the terminology and you have people falling over themselves to line up for this crap because it’s “not their sacrificial lamb” being slaughtered this time. Hope hunting rifle scopes are next....”nobody needs to shoot over 500 yards to kill a deeeeah!”. Military grade optics have no place in a civil society! The 10/22 accelerator stock, they classified the spring as a MG. Nobody made this an issue. I guess they can classify anything they want if it changes the rate of fire vs mechanical function as a MG. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:00:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:01:54 PM EDT
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Trump had better come out with a statement that even though he's banning bump stocks he still supports the right to keep semi-auto weapons. Bump stocks may not appeal to most people but the black rifle IS America's rifle and he'd better be thinking of all those AR owners staying home on election night in 2020.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:02:00 PM EDT
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Brilliant! let's all move to the reservation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We need multiple states to set-up second amendment zones. These areas offer protection to those with undocumented firearms and components like sanctuary cities do with illegal immigrants...
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:02:24 PM EDT
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This is going to get destroyed in the courts before it ever goes into effect |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:03:16 PM EDT
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People here said the same thing about the SAFE Act. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:03:20 PM EDT
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Dont worry guys, all those "cold dead hands" guys will be out in the streets. You just watch. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:03:38 PM EDT
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Yeah just like the 94 ban and 922. Being gay is ok now too, but I have still managed to not suck a dick. 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:05:00 PM EDT
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Who is going to hold a rally in support of bump stocks? The NRA has an effective monopoly on the gun rights movement and they demanded that Trump ban bump stocks via executive order. Even if they were against this, what infrastructure is there set up to arrange a pro-2A rally? They're not an activist organization they're some lobbying and educational org. No one shows up to pro-2A rallies because all of them currently have to be organized ad hoc via facebook or email lists something. It does no good to blame random gun owners (who may or may not be news junkies) for not showing up. Even then you have to have some kind of realistic political goal and not just rant because it feels good. A great example are all the "conservative" arfcommers that spent months trying to get everyone to send a message to the Florida GOP. Flipping Nelson's seat would be a huge victory and would make supreme court nominations much easier, and the next FL governor is going to appoint like four state supreme court justices but people here decided to spend 50+ pages of arguing that the Democrats winning wouldn't be a big deal. Politicians only listen to the bribes big enough to get them to meat you in person. Phone calls, emails, letter, protest don't do shit to counteract that. Call up your local political party office and join in their activities. How many people have bothered to even read the rule book? https://okgop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-OKGOP-State-Party-Rules.pdf And they want to act like they have done all they can, just by voting... How about get involved, and make sure the next (R) you elect is a good person? Do you even know the names of all the republicans you voted on this last election? And the few you may know, how much do you know abotu them Or did you just vote for them cause they have an (R) next to their name? I'm about to cross post something, cause I ain't writing all that shit again from scratch. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:05:39 PM EDT
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Good thing I burned all mine in the fireplace to keep warm during the last cold snap. I will not hide. Fuck that noise. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:07:10 PM EDT
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DU's take https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211487200 A bunch of them even think it's unconstitutional without compensation  via Imgflip Meme Generator
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:07:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing that will make a difference is mass PHYSICAL involvement at the local level with your political party, and follow it all the way to the top. Politicians only listen to the bribes big enough to get them to meat you in person. Phone calls, emails, letter, protest don't do shit to counteract that. Call up your local political party office and join in their activities. How many people have bothered to even read the rule book? https://okgop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-OKGOP-State-Party-Rules.pdf And they want to act like they have done all they can, just by voting... How about get involved, and make sure the next (R) you elect is a good person? Do you even know the names of all the republicans you voted on this last election? And the few you may know, how much do you know abotu them Or did you just vote for them cause they have an (R) next to their name? I'm about to cross post something, cause I ain't writing all that shit again from scratch. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:09:02 PM EDT
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Guaranteed one term president if this goes through. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 1:11:02 PM EDT
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If you need donations to help your cause Nolo....let us know how to help. We have your back and support you 8700% Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@NoloContendre Any paperwork ready to be filed? 
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