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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:17:02 AM EDT
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Years ago when the first 3d gun file was out in the wild, several people on various forums reported the file disappeared after Microsoft pushed an update. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Huh? What's Microsoft got to do with this? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:17:56 AM EDT
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I think they stopped referring to mentally ill people as 'crazy people' many years ago, Chuck.
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:18:46 AM EDT
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I wish more mass shooters were armed with 3D printed guns (versus regular ones) due to their propensity to break.
Aluminum > plastic > 3D printed plastic |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:19:52 AM EDT
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Damn....was wondering where Cody Wilson had gone. 5 years of litigation Jesus.
I guess if they can't win, they'll at least delay it as much as possible. Funny its a Trump administration this is all finally settled now. I have a feeling this halted additive manufacturing progress on guns a lot due to the laws. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:20:28 AM EDT
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What is to keep someone with a milling machine from making their own lower? Most guys in machine shops make a lot harder stuff than a upper or lower.
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:21:05 AM EDT
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Chuck should be concerned about criminals.
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:22:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird thing is, I got the plans when they were first available and still haven't made any. It's almost like Intent is more important than Capability. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:23:51 AM EDT
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https://nypost.com/2018/07/22/chuck-schumer-warns-of-3-d-printed-ghost-guns/ Sen. Chuck Schumer is warning the public to watch out for 3-D printed guns — that people will be able to legally download starting on August 1.
Gun rights activists reached a settlement with the US State Department and Department of Justice last week that allows them to post detailed instructions, including plans, files and 3-D drawings of the weapons. “This online site shows you, how at your home, with a simple 3D printer, you can make a plastic AR-15, an AR-10, a very dangerous semi-automatic assault-style weapons out of plastic in your own basement,” Schumer said at a Sunday press conference. The June 29 settlement stems from 2013 when the US government shut down Texas-based Defense Distributed when the website began sharing printable 3-D gun plans online — saying they were violating laws that regulate the export of guns since anyone, anywhere could download their plans. The site’s owner, Cody Wilson, sued and the US government reached a settlement with him allowing Defense Distributed to post the plans and agreeing to pay almost $40,000 of his legal fees. Schumer warned that the results could be disastrous — and could potentially arm people who cannot legally purchase a gun under existing laws. “The danger that could happen can be enormous,” he said. “To have crazy people have easy access, to have terrorists have easy access to this kind of website and allow them to make plastic AR 15s undetected — so-called ghost guns — justifies the imagination.” The 3-D printed guns are inferior to firearms manufacturers traditionally make but still work. Printers run anywhere from $200 to hundreds of thousands. Schumer demanded the federal government reverse its decision. He’ll be making a bill with a solution to the ghost gun blueprints by the end of the week, his spokesperson said. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:24:50 AM EDT
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Firearms are not that hard to manufacture. Criminals do not manufacture firearms. 3d printers are not going to change that. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:25:40 AM EDT
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Fuck you, Chuck!
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:25:50 AM EDT
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Chuck can stick his opinions and a 3D gun up his ass.
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:27:05 AM EDT
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Lol, attempting to distract the left from the FISA bullshit falling apart by offering up a carrot?
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:27:21 AM EDT
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Chuck should be concerned about criminals. Now PICK UP THAT FUCKING CAN! |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:30:05 AM EDT
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They will be making those "G-7's" that are invisible to metal detectors. Criminals will be making them like batches of cookies for all the gangs & terrorists... Also fuck chuck Schumer |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:35:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:43:44 AM EDT
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It's not like anybody in the last 60 years hasn't been able to build a basic gun out of some crap you can buy at Home Depot.
What are they going to do in an age of home CNC machines and 3d printers? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:46:40 AM EDT
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What is to keep someone with a milling machine from making their own lower? Most guys in machine shops make a lot harder stuff than a upper or lower. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:54:21 AM EDT
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Conceivably with additive manufacturing you could make an entire lower with the lower parts 'installed' all in one print. Once the tech gets to that level of refinement it'll be pretty crazy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is to keep someone with a milling machine from making their own lower? Most guys in machine shops make a lot harder stuff than a upper or lower. You're not "in the business" if you don't charge for your product, right? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:04:22 AM EDT
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The most dangerous place in America is between Chuck Schumer and a camera.
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:05:41 AM EDT
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Well since I have a mill and a lathe in my garage, I must already be a criminal then right? FCS
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:05:41 AM EDT
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Challenge Chuckie to demonstrate making one of his "ghost guns" entirely 3D printed. And then firing it. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:09:01 AM EDT
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I haven’t seen any of the CAD files for 3D printable lowers, BUT, I do believe you can’t take a design originally made of aluminum and make the same design of plastic and expect it to function the same. It might work for a few rounds, or a hundred or ???
A new material requires a new design. Are the 3D printable files the same design we have on our current rifles? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:10:56 AM EDT
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If you won the lottery, couldn't you just endow Ghost Gun Charities LLC and give them away for free? You're not "in the business" if you don't charge for your product, right? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:13:07 AM EDT
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I haven’t seen any of the CAD files for 3D printable lowers, BUT, I do believe you can’t take a design originally made of aluminum and make the same design of plastic and expect it to function the same. It might work for a few rounds, or a hundred or ??? A new material requires a new design. Are the 3D printable files the same design we have on our current rifles? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:18:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One could almost say that there is no such thing as somebody who is can not legally purchase a gun, only a person who lacks the proper documentation. I mean its a Human right and all. 
Has the NRA called for a ban since this piece of plastic can make a machine gun? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:18:07 AM EDT
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Unfortunately, this is how you get serialized and regulated barrels with a needed background check. You know that will be the solution politicians will dream up.  |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:20:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Somebody will come up with a way to make barrels at home in a few months. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:21:05 AM EDT
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Weird thing is, I got the plans when they were first available and still haven't made any. It's almost like Intent is more important than Capability. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can't stop the signal! It's almost like Intent is more important than Capability. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:24:17 AM EDT
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Sunday Schumer Strikes Again. He's a Ghost Politician -- Invisible for six days a week. Can we ban those? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:24:59 AM EDT
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Damn....was wondering where Cody Wilson had gone. 5 years of litigation Jesus. I guess if they can't win, they'll at least delay it as much as possible. Funny its a Trump administration this is all finally settled now. I have a feeling this halted additive manufacturing progress on guns a lot due to the laws. Some features must be in the Z direction, and they had better be beefy or very lightly loaded. I have access to metal printers for steels and titanium and no one wants to pay for the cost of the powdered metals or the cost of powering the lasers. The materials are still poorly characterized and heavily process and shape dependent. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:27:01 AM EDT
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Lol if that motherfucker had a inkling on what a average guy could do with a few simple tools
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:31:23 AM EDT
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I haven’t seen any of the CAD files for 3D printable lowers, BUT, I do believe you can’t take a design originally made of aluminum and make the same design of plastic and expect it to function the same. It might work for a few rounds, or a hundred or ??? A new material requires a new design. Are the 3D printable files the same design we have on our current rifles? We are not the revolutionaries. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:36:06 AM EDT
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Lol if that motherfucker had a inkling on what a average guy could do with a few simple tools  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP0kRKYNEpgWhat is the thickest part that gets welded in that assembly? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:37:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @chase45 What is the thickest part that gets welded in that assembly? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:46:29 AM EDT
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FUCK OFF CHUCKIE YOU FASCIST POS FUCK-STAIN.
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:50:33 AM EDT
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I haven’t seen any of the CAD files for 3D printable lowers, BUT, I do believe you can’t take a design originally made of aluminum and make the same design of plastic and expect it to function the same. It might work for a few rounds, or a hundred or ??? A new material requires a new design. Are the 3D printable files the same design we have on our current rifles? Here is one I did at 50% scale just for shits-and-grins....  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:53:41 AM EDT
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FCS.
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:07:02 AM EDT
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Don't worry Chucky. Microsoft will push an update and then magically the files will disappear just like happened before. Start a new thread if you choose. I never heard of this happening. @phlat |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:10:49 AM EDT
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What is to keep someone with a milling machine from making their own lower? Most guys in machine shops make a lot harder stuff than a upper or lower. Cartel cnc operations |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:13:42 AM EDT
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His plan is to make you a criminal, serf. Now PICK UP THAT FUCKING CAN! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Chuck should be concerned about criminals. Now PICK UP THAT FUCKING CAN! |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:14:26 AM EDT
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What caliber is the 3d printed pistol?
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:16:37 AM EDT
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If you won the lottery, couldn't you just endow Ghost Gun Charities LLC and give them away for free? You're not "in the business" if you don't charge for your product, right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What is to keep someone with a milling machine from making their own lower? Most guys in machine shops make a lot harder stuff than a upper or lower. You're not "in the business" if you don't charge for your product, right? Give vs. sell doesn't change the fact that they will come after you for manufacturing. It's the act, not the money. It's a crazy world when I can't loan out a jig to someone. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:18:50 AM EDT
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So people wanting to do bad things were following the law and now that it is legal, they will start making 3-d printed guns.
if that is the case, can we take the original wording that prevented them from making them anyway and make an anti-murder law? It would be awesome to use that magic wording and put an end to murders. Chuck You is a moron. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:26:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The ones I have seen have the buffer assembly connect to a removable piece so when it breaks due to the recoil stress, you can just print a new one and reattach it to the rest of the lower. Here is one I did at 50% scale just for shits-and-grins.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/446553/20180723_094448-616865.JPG It's an AR for a raccoon. FINISH IT. In like .22LR. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:29:39 AM EDT
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And historically and legally the registered part of the gun is the reciever. The gov has to play by their own rules, well with Trump in office at least. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Unfortunately, this is how you get serialized and regulated barrels with a needed background check. You know that will be the solution politicians will dream up. Pistol brace on the shoulder? It's ok. Then it wasn't. But it's ok now. Bump stocks? Not machineguns. Now they're trying to make them into machineguns. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:32:37 AM EDT
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no different than 80% frames/lowers
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:33:39 AM EDT
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Scary ghosteses.
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:34:02 AM EDT
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The most dangerous place in America is between Chuck Schumer and a camera. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:35:49 AM EDT
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If it isnt the russians its "ghost guns"
The DNC themesong  Dumbo Pink Elephants on Parade HD |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 10:36:19 AM EDT
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I wish more mass shooters were armed with 3D printed guns (versus regular ones) due to their propensity to break. Aluminum > plastic > 3D printed plastic 3-D printing around a few metal components is certainly doable today cheaply. just like the kits for casting receivers from polymers - they figured out how to put metal in the molds at certain places to strengthen the receiver. |
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