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Posted: 11/25/2019 7:41:02 PM EDT
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake? I don't know about other areas of the country but in MI it's no big deal for folks to tow their boat or 5th wheel or even tow a 5th wheel that's towing a small boat from the population centers in southern MI to vacation country in northern MI. How's this thing do in 10 deg. F weather towing a trailer with four snowmobiles from S MI to the UP for a weekend of sledding? Not well I suspect. But I have plenty of friends who do this with their diesel or gas trucks. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 7:42:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They'll pull their hypothetical boat for as long as it takes to rule out making the trip via electric. This is an idiotic vehicle. There's no way to defend it as anything practical. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 7:42:36 PM EDT
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They'll pull their hypothetical boat for as long as it takes to rule out making the trip via electric. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake?  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 7:42:56 PM EDT
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Great way to convince dumb people to buy your product. Excellent selection strategy, almost as if it is by design.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 7:44:01 PM EDT
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Whoops, didn’t realize I was posting in a Pony thread.
Electric cars are stupid. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 7:45:09 PM EDT
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And?
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Posted: 11/25/2019 7:45:35 PM EDT
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Lol No one is towing anything substantial with an f159 anyways I'd like to see the Tesla go against an F350 (which starts $5k lower than the 8bit truck). |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 7:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So besides the hitch, body and interior, of a labeled “prototype” do we know anything more about the F150? They've partnered with Rivian IIRC (which has a slick looking product) so there could be some sharing going on there. 
I'm saying though that if they try to shoehorn an EV drivetrain/battery into an F-150 frame that it will be a sub-optimal EV. If they don't, then it won't have much of the cost savings. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 7:48:46 PM EDT
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The Rivian looks gay. The Tesla looks like it was designed by an 8 year old in 1982.
The Atlis looks badass. 
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Posted: 11/25/2019 7:48:56 PM EDT
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Is this like when the Toyota was using a V8 4x4 crew cab to pull V6 2x4 single cab domestic trucks to prove how great the Tundra was?
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:00:52 PM EDT
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Empty 4x2 F150 vs 4x4 Rolling Lithium Bonfir[color=#ff0000]e[/color] 
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:05:52 PM EDT
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Let's see Electric vs Electric  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lgAlso, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. It would be so cool, I might want one. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:12:17 PM EDT
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Now make all the Tesla cars look 8bit.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
Now make all the Tesla cars look 8bit.  Quoted:
Still better looking than an Aztec, a Juke, or those Jeep Cherokees with the long front end. I'd take a Tesla 8bit I've one of those any day. 
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:12:35 PM EDT
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How many 5 gallon Jerry cans of electricity does the AzTruck need to make it 700 miles?
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:18:16 PM EDT
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Lol No one is towing anything substantial with an f159 anyways You don't spend much time in KY do you?
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:22:52 PM EDT
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I suspect the Tesla 8Bit would beat my F-350 in that tug. Instant torque and electronic traction control vs. 6.7 liters of diesel dually in 4LO? Yup.  
This is the realistic future of towing and probably the closer to realistic approach to vehicles that need a range. Diesel electric. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:23:11 PM EDT
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GJ, wait till the batteries fail and you have to pay thousands to replace them. I'll stick with the F150.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:25:22 PM EDT
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More of a battle about friction and not power I want to see one of these giant RC cars in a head to head race with a 1950 GMC towing a 24' camp trailer from Seattle to Yellowstone falls and back. That's probably a better real world test of merit. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:26:53 PM EDT
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake? |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:27:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the realistic future of towing and probably the closer to realistic approach to vehicles that need a range. Diesel electric.  Attached FileI've been saying this for years. Downscale locomotive tech and you'd own the towing world. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:30:38 PM EDT
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake? |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:31:24 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69748/download__1__jpeg-1173688.JPG I've been saying this for years. Downscale locomotive tech and you'd own the towing world. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:31:33 PM EDT
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Niiiiiice. Car of the future. Now make all the Tesla cars look 8bit.
Still better looking than an Aztec, a Juke, or those Jeep Cherokees with the long front end. I'd take a Tesla 8bit I've one of those any day. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:33:51 PM EDT
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This is probably the least effective way to show off its capabilities. Truck pulls are about the stupidest thing ever. "Oh, my truck weighs more" or "oh my truck is hitched at the correct height." About as useful a measure as Toyota pulling the space shuttle. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:33:54 PM EDT
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I type too slow beat by two minutes. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:33:54 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69748/download__1__jpeg-1173688.JPG I've been saying this for years. Downscale locomotive tech and you'd own the towing world. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: This is the realistic future of towing and probably the closer to realistic approach to vehicles that need a range. Diesel electric. I've been saying this for years. Downscale locomotive tech and you'd own the towing world. Completely battery powered. Range up to like ~200 miles at 45000lbs. Range extenders with either a 4.5L or 6.7L engine, at 75000lbs. Optional solar panels for dedicated trailers. This is the shell CNG/electric hybrid I believe. Might be diesel option now too. Same idea. Generator powered. 
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:34:26 PM EDT
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Not really. They've partnered with Rivian IIRC (which has a slick looking product) so there could be some sharing going on there. https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/rivian-r1t-test-mule.jpg I'm saying though that if they try to shoehorn an EV drivetrain/battery into an F-150 frame that it will be a sub-optimal EV. If they don't, then it won't have much of the cost savings. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: So besides the hitch, body and interior, of a labeled “prototype” do we know anything more about the F150? They've partnered with Rivian IIRC (which has a slick looking product) so there could be some sharing going on there. https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/rivian-r1t-test-mule.jpg I'm saying though that if they try to shoehorn an EV drivetrain/battery into an F-150 frame that it will be a sub-optimal EV. If they don't, then it won't have much of the cost savings. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:34:35 PM EDT
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake? The lake a boat might not be the smartest investment |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:36:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/148484/20180305_181531-552193.jpg This is the realistic future of towing and probably the closer to realistic approach to vehicles that need a range. Diesel electric. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:46:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bet the F150 weighs about 2000 lbs less than the tesla, so it would be cheaper to get the F150 to Mars.. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:49:26 PM EDT
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The F150 would require fuel and oxygen to be sent with it. The Tesla can be recharged with solar panels or better yet a nuclear reactor. Every off world vehicle ever made, manned and unmanned, has been electric driven. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I bet the F150 weighs about 2000 lbs less than the tesla, so it would be cheaper to get the F150 to Mars.. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:55:10 PM EDT
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About as dumb as pulling train cars down a track...
Not a competition of torque or power or anything else. Just the friction of the drive wheels. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:57:04 PM EDT
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Years ago I used to say "it's not a truck if it can't carry a sheet of plywood". The short beds put an end to that utilitarian aspect of trucks. To look at the Tesla offering and call it a truck takes a lot of liberty with the word.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:57:23 PM EDT
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Yeah, if you live 400 miles from The lake a boat might not be the smartest investment Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake? The lake a boat might not be the smartest investment I live 10 miles from the puget sound, 5 mi from lake washington, but I still like to fish the columbia river and lakes in eastern washington too? Do I just not get to go to those lakes now? Stupid argument. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 8:59:15 PM EDT
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In this thread we see people who don't understand electric motors. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:05:31 PM EDT
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We all know that if the F150 was dragging the Tesla around in a truck pull, it would instantly be important.
I know I'm spending 440 dollars a month in fuel. Jumping to electric is sounding better and better. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:07:46 PM EDT
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How's the Tesla do over range towing a heavy trailer up hills, being refilled and continuing on?
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:09:37 PM EDT
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Years ago I used to say "it's not a truck if it can't carry a sheet of plywood". The short beds put an end to that utilitarian aspect of trucks. To look at the Tesla offering and call it a truck takes a lot of liberty with the word. That Tesla truck might be the dumbest looking vehicle ever conceived....literally looks like what a 4th grade kid would “design”. 
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:10:35 PM EDT
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Yeah, if you live 400 miles from The lake a boat might not be the smartest investment Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake? The lake a boat might not be the smartest investment
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:12:06 PM EDT
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake? Would not be possible with an electric. Refueling quickly is the Achilles heel of electric. It's not power, it's endurance. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:16:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, if you live 400 miles from The lake a boat might not be the smartest investment
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:19:04 PM EDT
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How's the Tesla do over range towing a heavy trailer up hills, being refilled and continuing on? |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:22:48 PM EDT
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Looks like a prop from Damnation Alley
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:23:41 PM EDT
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Trucks pulling each other is pointless and mildly retarded.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:24:04 PM EDT
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Who pulls a boat literally 400 miles in a day for a day on the lake? You won't be doing that in Electric mall crawler. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:25:12 PM EDT
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The only real competition to an F-150 in terms of sales, is going to be an electric F-150.
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:25:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not really. They've partnered with Rivian IIRC (which has a slick looking product) so there could be some sharing going on there. https://www.teslarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/rivian-r1t-test-mule.jpg I'm saying though that if they try to shoehorn an EV drivetrain/battery into an F-150 frame that it will be a sub-optimal EV. If they don't, then it won't have much of the cost savings. Musk's bilk truck is better looking than that. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:25:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWho fucking designs this shit? Morons. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:26:43 PM EDT
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/69748/download__1__jpeg-1173688.JPG I've been saying this for years. Downscale locomotive tech and you'd own the towing world. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is the realistic future of towing and probably the closer to realistic approach to vehicles that need a range. Diesel electric. I've been saying this for years. Downscale locomotive tech and you'd own the towing world. Diesel electric would be fantastic. |
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Posted: 11/25/2019 9:29:28 PM EDT
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Tesla set the market segment price points. It will cost approximately the same. That’s how competition works. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's see Electric vs Electric https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lgAlso, Ford is going to beat Tesla to production. By A lot. Again, I like Teslas but this truck is absurdly stupid and Elon needs to lay off the bong before making another attempt at one. It will cost approximately the same. That’s how competition works. |
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