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Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:31:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Socio] [#1]
I see people buying them all the time going out to their cars and scratching off, some don't even wait to leave the store, so there must be good odds of paying off or there are a lot of people addicted to the rush of scratching them off like the pull of a slot machine arm.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:32:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Socio] [#2]
Edit, double post.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:34:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Burnsy:
I don't think that is always the case.  The act of gambling can be fun if you accept that you are very likely going to lose your money.  It's healthy as long as you are doing it to pay for the thrill and not solely the payout.
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Originally Posted By Burnsy:
Originally Posted By WS4LIF:
People who gamble make poor life decisions.
I don't think that is always the case.  The act of gambling can be fun if you accept that you are very likely going to lose your money.  It's healthy as long as you are doing it to pay for the thrill and not solely the payout.
My grandpa has always been very tight with his money, he has a good chunk of it stashed away.

In his 70's now he finally loosened up a little bit. He goes the casino twice a week with $40. He plays off the $40 until it's gone, but pockets any winnings and packs his lunch.

It's pretty funny because he tracks his progress every trip too, he knows exactly how much money he is up or down at any given time. Last I asked him he was up a couple hundred but was slowly losing it.

He's doing it for the fun of it, and probably as something to keep his mind busy.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:36:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Socio:
I see people buying them all the time going out to their cars and scratching off, some don't even wait to leave the store, so there must be good odds of paying off or there are a lot of people addicted to the rush of scratching them off like the pull of a slot machine arm.
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Some people don't understand odds very well, and just know that because they haven't won in awhile that it could be any time now.

They would probably make out way better just playing either black or red at the roulette table instead.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:37:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rogueboss:

I find it funny that when the government says we went to the moon, everyone here believes it 100%

But if the government says "we don't want to take your guns" people call bullshit and get all bent out of shape
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Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:38:19 PM EDT
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Iirc..
Its 4 to 1 odds on the 2$ tickets here.
Havent checked the higher tickets. But ive won 150$ of 10$ worth of tickets.
Well buy them every few months for shits..normally win back our money.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:40:50 PM EDT
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It's even better when they hand out the scratch off tickets as Christmas and birthday gifts and expect you to split any winnings with them.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:40:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:

My grandpa has always been very tight with his money, he has a good chunk of it stashed away.

In his 70's now he finally loosened up a little bit. He goes the casino twice a week with $40. He plays off the $40 until it's gone, but pockets any winnings and packs his lunch.

It's pretty funny because he tracks his progress every trip too, he knows exactly how much money he is up or down at any given time. Last I asked him he was up a couple hundred but was slowly losing it.

He's doing it for the fun of it, and probably as something to keep his mind busy.
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Aye, years ago the wife and I were just starting out and didn't have much money.  I had $50 to spend on her birthday gift and was trying to make it stretch as far as possible.  I knew she likes to play slot machines so I took her to the casino and she played the penny slots for hours before it was gone while I hung out with her and had a good time.  She might have been lying to be nice but she claimed it was a bunch a fun and a good gift.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:40:51 PM EDT
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It's entertainment. A few weeks ago I went on a hot streak and got 6 free tickets in a row plus some cash for a couple tall boys
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:41:14 PM EDT
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Only idiots buy lotto tickets. That is an indisputable fact. Rationalize your stupid behavior anyway you like but it doesnt change it.
 I also dont necessarily believe the moon landings happened. I'm not saying they didnt but I'm pretty sure that anyone who thinks anything they see on tv or read is true is most likely an idiot. Like I tell my 5 year old " everything on tv is fake, even, and especially, the news. Unless you see it with your own eyes dont believe it. And even then you should be suspicious."
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:41:29 PM EDT
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I rarely buy scratch offs, only when I am in a wasting money type of mood.

I've bought so few, in fact, that I have accurately kept track of my loss/gain.

I would be cost/benefit negative, save for one $1000 winner about 10 years ago.  I'm still $500 up.  
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:42:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
If you made your coffee at home you could save about $390 a year.

That's a lot of $20 scratch offs.
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'gas station coffee' is like 'hookers and blow' to some folks.

Can't we all get along?
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:43:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cobalty2004:
I believe there is a boat load of information that was not shared with the public.
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There is.  Not too long ago it came out that on the Apollo 10 mission to the moon a few pieces of shit were floating around inside the spacecraft.  Mission Control caught Commander Tom Stafford laughing and asking who was letting their shit float around inside the cabin, saying it wasn't his because his was more sticky.  Due to the conservative communication standards of the 60's NASA declined to release the transcript until recently.

Apollo 10 astronauts joked aboud floating turds

Congratulations.  You broke the secret conspiracy.  You must be proud.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:50:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Danthehunterman:
Only idiots buy lotto tickets. That is an indisputable fact. Rationalize your stupid behavior anyway you like but it doesnt change it.
 I also dont necessarily believe the moon landings happened. I'm not saying they didnt but I'm pretty sure that anyone who thinks anything they see on tv or read is true is most likely an idiot. Like I tell my 5 year old " everything on tv is fake, even, and especially, the news. Unless you see it with your own eyes dont believe it. And even then you should be suspicious."
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Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:50:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tactical_Spartan:
It's even better when they hand out the scratch off tickets as Christmas and birthday gifts and expect you to split any winnings with them.
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One year we got the bright idea for everyone to buy $10 worth of scratch offs and toss them all in a box for family Christmas. Going oldest to youngest you could then take $10 worth out of the box.

All said and done I won $5, and my youngest cousin won $25, then a handful of 1 and 2 dollar winners. The state got us for almost $200 that day, and there were scratch off shavings all over the place.

We all decided that idea was stupid in hindsight, and it wasn't to be done again.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:51:00 PM EDT
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Last year I had a $500. $300. and 11 $20.  For the year I made $700.  I followed the advice of a man who gave a talk to my VFW group.  I'm doing it again this year and am breaking even so far.  I put the $700. I won on ammo buys at the end of the year.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:53:48 PM EDT
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Some people even go to Las Vegas for a weekend.

Idiots.

A.W.D.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:55:45 PM EDT
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My SIL who is 64 YO buys a scratchoff ticket every day.  I tried to explain the futility of that to her.  Her response was ...

"I'm 64 years old.  I no longer smoke.  I no longer drink.  I only eat healthy food.  I do not have a partner so I do not have sex.  The lottery is my only vice. "

I bought her $10 worth of scratchoff tickets.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 1:58:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
If you made your coffee at home you could save about $390 a year.

That's a lot of $20 scratch offs.
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Better idea is just to quit caffeine all together.

You pretty much need caffeine "to help you wake up" because of the shitty sleep you got from yesterday's caffeine use.

When I stopped caffeine I slept better, mostly lost the rings under my eyes, had better looking skin, and overall looked about 5 years younger and felt better.

Caffeine is overrated shit.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 2:04:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Neotopiaman:

Better idea is just to quit caffeine all together.

You pretty much need caffeine "to help you wake up" because of the shitty sleep you got from yesterday's caffeine use.

When I stopped caffeine I slept better, mostly lost the rings under my eyes, had better looking skin, and overall looked about 5 years younger and felt better.

Caffeine is overrated shit.
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BAN HIM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 2:11:42 PM EDT
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Both lottery tickets and gas station coffee are financially stupid. OP tolled himself
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 2:19:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By threefeathers:
Last year I had a $500. $300. and 11 $20.  For the year I made $700.  I followed the advice of a man who gave a talk to my VFW group.  I'm doing it again this year and am breaking even so far.  I put the $700. I won on ammo buys at the end of the year.
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The advice please?
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 2:21:29 PM EDT
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OP.. Im gonna go and buy a few scratch offs today in your honor...
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 2:24:18 PM EDT
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Once in a while I will by the guys who work for me a $1 or $2 ticket if we are working long hours and at lunch we will play "if I win, I will....."

It's for poops and grins
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 2:36:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Gas station coffee is not a good life decision.
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Wawa coffee is always a good life decision.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 2:38:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By threefeathers:
Last year I had a $500. $300. and 11 $20.  For the year I made $700.  I followed the advice of a man who gave a talk to my VFW group.  I'm doing it again this year and am breaking even so far.  I put the $700. I won on ammo buys at the end of the year.
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If you play long enough, regression to the mean is going to get you. In principle, the state cannot pay out more lottery prizes than lottery ticket revenue it brings it. In reality, annuities, third parties, and sketchy accounting might get outside of zero sum.

The most efficient strategy is to purchase a single ticket per drawing. That first ticket nets you the highest probability increase per cost. Every ticket after #1 nets you dismal marginal benefit.

And when you win "big", stop playing entirely.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 2:43:21 PM EDT
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Meh, I'll buy one every couple months or so just for shits and giggles.

I don't plan on making money off of it... it's just fun to play occasionally.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 2:45:34 PM EDT
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I know this is an outlier, but a coworker's sister used to buy a $1 scratch off every morning at the convenience store next to the bakery she owned.

One say, the clerk suggested she buy a $20 scratch off he had recently been carrying. She was understandably reluctant,  but he told her that no one else had gotten a winning ticket from that roll as far as he knew, so a winner had to be coming up soon. She relented and paid the $20...she won $1,000,000. True story.  Sold her business and retired.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 2:59:46 PM EDT
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I don't think I've ever bought a scratch off lottery ticket.  I've gotten them as gifts, and it seemed like maybe 25% of them payed out.  

I do buy about 1 powerball ticket a year, when its insanely high.  I admit that's dumb too, but we're talking about $2 a year.  I waste more money than that in ammo all the time, and shooting a boulder with .50 BMG costs about the same, and pays off nothing, unless it happens be full of oil or gold:

Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:10:02 PM EDT
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People put $25 on one hand of black jack......what’s the difference
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$25?   Bless your heart.  Lots of casinos you can't find a table on the weekends with a minimum less than $100.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:10:06 PM EDT
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Every time I hear the Texas Lottery add about wanting winners, I keep thinking - they really just want a bunch of losers - otherwise they would go bankrupt.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:13:37 PM EDT
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my best friend a few years ago bought a few, hit $10k.
His mother was so excited that she then went and bought a few the next day, she hit $10k as well. Totally bizzare.
He went right out and bought an old used, coco brown mazda "truck"..thats when I knew he could never be trusted again!
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:17:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Idpapaperoperator:
Eh, it doesn't bother me. Unlessl I see the people who buy a shitload of scratch-offs, and then uses an EBT card to buy 4 large cans of Redbull and about 15 dollars worth of Little Debbies and candy.

If you are on EBT you should be barred from playing the lottery.

But then again, I am sure that the lottery offices wouldnt make near as much money.
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I said this to someone once while I worked for a gas station.
They got mad, then bought $20 worth of scratch offs, a pack of smokes, and then a bunch of "food" on EBT.
Guess they didn't like what I had to say.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:20:01 PM EDT
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casino? that's fun.

megamillions or whatever? yea I'm not gonna win but when the jackpot gets huge my couple dollars buys me an afternoon of dreaming about what private island I'd buy.

horse racing? now THAT is quality fucking gambling.

scratch offs? no thanks. They aren't exciting or fun.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:22:01 PM EDT
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My two good friends are always playing scratch offs and keno at bars.

those bastards split a $50 scratch off and won $50,000. After taxes and what not they each get around $17,500.

unreal
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:29:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rogueboss:
I find it funny that when the government says we went to the moon, everyone here believes it 100%

But if the government says "we don't want to take your guns" people call bullshit and get all bent out of shape
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Originally Posted By rogueboss:
Originally Posted By drfcolt:
Ask yourself this OP:

Do people that think we never went to the moon make any good life decisions?
I find it funny that when the government says we went to the moon, everyone here believes it 100%

But if the government says "we don't want to take your guns" people call bullshit and get all bent out of shape
Nobody believes the moon landings because the government says so, they believe them because of the irrefutable proof which in this case coincides with what the government says.

It takes a special kind of stupid to think the moon landings were fake.

As far as the topic, it depends. Some people find it a fun distraction. If their bills are paid and they're planning for their future, it doesn't seem like a scratch it is a big deal. Now, if they have unpaid bills or are counting on this for their retirement then....
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:45:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jDrexler:
casino? that's fun.

megamillions or whatever? yea I'm not gonna win but when the jackpot gets huge my couple dollars buys me an afternoon of dreaming about what private island I'd buy.

horse racing? now THAT is quality fucking gambling.


scratch offs? no thanks. They aren't exciting or fun.
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The last time I went, it became very apparent you are way better off betting on the jockey instead of the horse.

Doing box bets is fun though, especially when you get to yell at your horse from the rail to get his ass moving.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:49:54 PM EDT
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@cochraneap what did you search to find that please.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:51:12 PM EDT
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whenever I start hearing about the powerball being over like 300 million clams or so, I do buy a single ticket.  It is worth the $2 just to be able to give a think about how I would use the money, etc.  But, I may only buy @10 a year on them.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:52:22 PM EDT
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Oh, I dunno. The more money they drop on scratchers, the nicer their sweat pants usually are. Maybe there's something to it.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:53:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
If you made your coffee at home you could save about $390 a year.

That's a lot of $20 scratch offs.
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, I come into this thread to post this
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 3:59:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By rogueboss:

Shit just take the Vegas shooter.

People here won't believe a word the govt says about the incident. But god damn do you all believe the moon landings were real!
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You post a lot of dumb shit.....and do so with arrogance.  Derp on!
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 4:06:06 PM EDT
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Proper 3:2 BJ which is typically available at $25 per hand has a house edge of about 1% or less.

Scratch off tickets from what I can tell from multiple sources online indicate a house edge of 35% give or take 5%.

Therefore, the expected cost of $25 bet in either game is as follows:

$25 Hand of Blackjack -> $25 * 0.01 = $0.25
$25 Scratcher -> $25 * 0.35 = $8.75

So "the difference" is about $8.50 or about 3400% higher cost per bet.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 4:10:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By cochraneap:
Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon:
If you made your coffee at home you could save about $390 a year.

That's a lot of $20 scratch offs.
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Link Posted: 4/11/2018 4:13:12 PM EDT
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I buy one scratcher approximately  every other week. I usually get the ten dollar ones. It gives my trips to wawa a little excitement.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 4:25:23 PM EDT
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One of my brothers good friends won $300k on a $20 scratch off last year, motherfucker was already rich.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 4:30:50 PM EDT
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I think I'll buy a couple on my way home today... just for OP.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 4:34:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ccosby:
If they can afford them I say go nuts.

I'll randomly get bored and buy some scratch offs, it isn't that often though. Maybe 100-150 bucks a year.
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Same here maybe $100 a year

I buy um as gifts fairly often , beats stupid junk or a gift card to go buy stupid junk
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 4:36:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:

Nobody believes the moon landings because the government says so, they believe them because of the irrefutable proof which in this case coincides with what the government says.

It takes a special kind of stupid to think the moon landings were fake.

As far as the topic, it depends. Some people find it a fun distraction. If their bills are paid and they're planning for their future, it doesn't seem like a scratch it is a big deal. Now, if they have unpaid bills or are counting on this for their retirement then....
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Dare you to stand under a flight rated Saturn V (such as the one at the Kennedy Space Center) and say we didn't go to the moon. After you see what was actually built, you can't help but believe it. I have been in and out of flight rated Shuttles and I know what flight hardware looks like.
Link Posted: 4/11/2018 4:39:55 PM EDT
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This thread is very biased.  Math says there are a lot more losers than winners, otherwise states would not be reporting huge amounts of revenue.

However, the losers don't come here to post, I am an idiot that wasted $1000 on lottery tickets over the last year.
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