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Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:21:17 PM EDT
[#1]
Yep.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:23:09 PM EDT
[#2]
I employ a girl that is currently wearing an ankle bracelet. She shows up on time, and I don’t feel the need to constantly strangle her, so she can stay if the judge lets her. Currently being charged with 8? Counts of discharging a firearm in an occupied dwelling. Boyfriend broke her face, she started shooting, but couldn’t see shit from the blood and swelling.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:27:21 PM EDT
[#3]
Summer job a couple years ago for HEB we had an ex con.

Yes he’s got all kinds of neck tats and such. He had an ankle tracker for a while but I haven’t seen it lately.

He is a really nice guy and he is into ARs and collecting guns. I am guessing based on HEB hiring practices that he never committed or at least was found guilty of committing any felonies. Especially since he was talking about his guns in front of our HR guy.

Now he has kids and is trying to keep them from doing any stuff he did. One of our best employees tbh.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:35:48 PM EDT
[#4]
No, the FAA and TSA would get REAL excited if we did.

We do have people that do shit on shift that gets them arrested. Last one was one of the FAs was hiding her escaped prisoner boyfriend and his buddy in a hotel room for a few days having a sexcapade. Her looks though were
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:37:23 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:37:58 PM EDT
[#6]
Absolutely not.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:38:00 PM EDT
[#7]
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One but for his ‘crime’ I’d buy him a beer.
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DUI?
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:39:46 PM EDT
[#8]
Yes, yes, and yes.  I work for a landscape maintenance company.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:50:52 PM EDT
[#9]
Every day I work for TDCJ Parole Division.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 10:55:47 PM EDT
[#10]
Yassuh boss, shakin' the bush boss
Any man loses his spoon spends a night in the box
Luke, why is your dirt in Boss Keene's dtich?
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 11:00:21 PM EDT
[#11]
Oil field so yes we have a lot out here
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 11:36:22 PM EDT
[#12]
Yes there are 500 convicts where I work.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 11:37:57 PM EDT
[#13]
They aren’t ex where I work. Roughly 4000.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 11:39:13 PM EDT
[#14]
When I was in my 20s I worked in a large manufacturing facility we used to joke that getting a DUI and a felony was a job requirement.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 11:42:11 PM EDT
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We have a large handful of them, mostly non-violent stuff. Surprisingly, out of all of the hooligans we have, the only ones that get denied to work on public projects are ones with back child support.

They usually have the best stories.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 11:42:21 PM EDT
[#16]
I’m oilfield. It’s a prerequisite
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 11:44:24 PM EDT
[#17]
Nope. You need to be squeaky clean.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 11:47:52 PM EDT
[#18]
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Honestly you may be very pleasantly surprised with the work ethics of cons who pulled a 15-20 bid for murder. They are some of the easiest to work with.
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This.

They can follow instructions.
Link Posted: 7/30/2019 11:48:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/31/2019 12:23:58 AM EDT
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Well current and ex I suppose ( state correctional facility)
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This^
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 12:29:22 AM EDT
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I think that, if you knowingly hire someone with a criminal history, and they cause a problem, there is potential liability that does not exist otherwise.
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Depends on the person. Depends on the crime.

Sex offenders/rapist no.

Most of the guys I hire were gang/drug related crimes- committed when they were young- late teens early 20’s.

Its not a crime to hire ex-cons.

My industry is different than others. Construction. I am sure business owners in other sectors will have a different opinion. I can only speak to my business
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 12:36:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Not on my current job but I worked with a convicted murderer once. He said he had repented and was following Jesus, he was a good worker too.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 12:42:18 AM EDT
[#23]
Nope, never convicted
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 1:00:03 AM EDT
[#24]
No one with a felony, but the boss was in jail for a while.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 2:47:58 AM EDT
[#25]
City can't hire enough trash truck helpers at $11.25 ($14.25 when they get paid CDL) so they have a staffing company bring guys in for $10.15hr (saw the ad on Craigslist).

I'm not saying they are felons, but the ad says "background friendly".
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 2:50:59 AM EDT
[#26]
I am not saying I agree or disagree with current bookings and prison sentences, but in a perfect society, why should a person who serves their time be forever marked? Are they free or naw? If they aren't to be trusted at a job, why are they to be trusted out in public in the first place?
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 2:55:41 AM EDT
[#27]
Need a security clearance, so not many if any.  I'm sure some of the contractors for stuff like janitors and landscaping that have a lower level or no clearance are.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 2:57:58 AM EDT
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I worked steel fabrication all of my adult life and yes there were always criminals wherever I worked. The last place I worked, one of my friends spent 4.5 years in prison for felonious assault but the offence took place when he was 18 years old. He got his shit together and got his gun rights back last year. He petitioned the state and won his rights back. The first thing he did was to buy a lower and parts kit locally and bought an upper from PSA. I helped him put his AR together. I trust him. What he did in the past, he paid for and came out of it a better person. Not everyone who has spent time in prison is a hardened criminal. Most everyone deserves a second chance except rapists, molesters and murderers.
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Absolutely.

I know someone who did the exact same thing, but they were convicted of a felony but never served a day in jail because of how low risk they were. Got his rights back and has never had any other problems.

I worked with a guy in my exgf's restaurant who got out for manslaughter 2 and coke distribution and applied right after release. Hardest worker he ever hired and the dude kept his nose clean and last I heard, was now a mechanic.

Its hard to say that someone who made a mistake should be forever ostracized and never be allowed to get a good job and try to live a good life. Except rapists/pedos etc, they should pretty much stay in prison.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 2:58:21 AM EDT
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Not currently - here we would not.

In my state, car salesmen are not licensed. In the past, I have hired felons to sell cars, and worked in dealerships where the majority of salesmen had convictions. It wasn't even worth commenting on. We were only concerned with fraud and theft as a disqualifier.

Nothing like having US Marshals taking away your leading salesman in handcuffs....
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I think I'd be extremely pissed to know my wife/sister/mother went on a test drive with a rapist because you were only concerned with losing money.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:02:15 AM EDT
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I think I'd be extremely pissed to know my wife/sister/mother went on a test drive with a rapist because you were only concerned with losing money.
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So I think we would agree certain crimes might need different sentences. If you are going to release someone from prison, you are releasing them into the public. Not hiring them at a job isn't any safer than hiring them if they are still "dangerous".
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:09:12 AM EDT
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Unfortunately there’s a lot of pedofiles just look up your works zip code on the Meghan’s law website and you’ll be shocked like i was.
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515 in my zip code. But there are only 105 homes in my development and no other dev around has the same zip. I'm not exactly shocked by that number.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:09:49 AM EDT
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no felons.

Some misdemeanors ok, but not felons.
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Do you know how many felonies are plead down to a misdemeanor?
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:10:24 AM EDT
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One but for his ‘crime’ I’d buy him a beer.
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Meme'ing without a license? TV without a license? Porn without a license? Unregistered butter knife?
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:14:51 AM EDT
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So I think we would agree certain crimes might need different sentences. If you are going to release someone from prison, you are releasing them into the public. Not hiring them at a job isn't any safer than hiring them if they are still "dangerous".
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I think I'd be extremely pissed to know my wife/sister/mother went on a test drive with a rapist because you were only concerned with losing money.
So I think we would agree certain crimes might need different sentences. If you are going to release someone from prison, you are releasing them into the public. Not hiring them at a job isn't any safer than hiring them if they are still "dangerous".
But putting a sex offender in a car with a female is pretty fucking stupid, even if only looking at it from a liability standpoint.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:15:44 AM EDT
[#35]
Yes, I do. My company hires drug court people. One guy is a professional burglar and has 26 felonies on his record.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:16:30 AM EDT
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But putting a sex offender in a car with a female is pretty fucking stupid, even if only looking at it from a liability standpoint.
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Agreed about the liability. Outside of that, it would be folly to think the public is safer if they were unemployed with lots of time on their hands.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:23:21 AM EDT
[#37]
Yes, had one ex-con and two registered sex offenders.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:23:32 AM EDT
[#38]
Our janitorial department has plenty. One of the nicest guys and hardest workers did 18 years. You’d never know by looking at him. One day he came around so we started shooting the bull and he mentioned he used to be an aircraft mechanic so I asked why he was a janitor now so he told me. I guess felonies and prison will have that affect but he seems to be on the straight and narrow now.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:26:17 AM EDT
[#39]
Went to trade school with a drug runner. He got on the straight ans narrow lickity split.

The places I worked at you couldn't have any dings on your record. You had to pass an investigation for clearance. No pass immediate termination.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:32:53 AM EDT
[#40]
Nope. All employees have to go thru a background check with our largest customer that we contract to. Past convictions of a felony I get a phone call saying they're not welcomone on site and their hiring is contingent on them passing a pair of background checks.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:33:40 AM EDT
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Unlikely any of the coders and engineers are ex-cons these days.

However, I used to work with a coder way back in 1990 who was an ex-con. Drug smuggler. One of the original dudes that flew weed out of Mexico.

Son of an MD raised in Hawaii. Physics major at Columbia goes to San Francisco for the Summer of Love in 1967 and never returns for his senior year. He regretted that.

Got into the drug scene, smuggling, dealing. Did Federal time.

My boss had an MS in Physics, so he hired the guy basically just for that. Guy was the most convoluted C programmer I have ever encountered.

Walking enigma. A drunk, brain clearly tweaked from LSD yet he was smart enough to code fairly well (not great, but passing.)

It just goes to show if you start with a good brain you can abuse the shit out of it and still get by.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 3:51:48 AM EDT
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Unlikely any of the coders and engineers are ex-cons these days.

However, I used to work with a coder way back in 1990 who was an ex-con. Drug smuggler. One of the original dudes that flew weed out of Mexico.

Son of an MD raised in Hawaii. Physics major at Columbia goes to San Francisco for the Summer of Love in 1967 and never returns for his senior year. He regretted that.

Got into the drug scene, smuggling, dealing. Did Federal time.

My boss had an MS in Physics, so he hired the guy basically just for that. Guy was the most convoluted C programmer I have ever encountered.

Walking enigma. A drunk, brain clearly tweaked from LSD yet he was smart enough to code fairly well (not great, but passing.)

It just goes to show if you start with a good brain you can abuse the shit out of it and still get by.
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Does it make you question how much the non-serious drug abusers are just coasting by? It's like humans are capable of amazing and also ignominious things.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 4:02:43 AM EDT
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Does it make you question how much the non-serious drug abusers are just coasting by? It's like humans are capable of amazing and also ignominious things.
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Unlikely any of the coders and engineers are ex-cons these days.

However, I used to work with a coder way back in 1990 who was an ex-con. Drug smuggler. One of the original dudes that flew weed out of Mexico.

Son of an MD raised in Hawaii. Physics major at Columbia goes to San Francisco for the Summer of Love in 1967 and never returns for his senior year. He regretted that.

Got into the drug scene, smuggling, dealing. Did Federal time.

My boss had an MS in Physics, so he hired the guy basically just for that. Guy was the most convoluted C programmer I have ever encountered.

Walking enigma. A drunk, brain clearly tweaked from LSD yet he was smart enough to code fairly well (not great, but passing.)

It just goes to show if you start with a good brain you can abuse the shit out of it and still get by.
Does it make you question how much the non-serious drug abusers are just coasting by? It's like humans are capable of amazing and also ignominious things.
I don't really know what "non-serious" means anymore. Weed used to be considered non-serious but modern weed is insanely more powerful than weed from the 60s and 70s.

My niece was a heavy user of that new strong weed and she was dingy as hell when she was stoned. And since she was usually stoned, she was dingy 24/7.

She eventually saw the light and started college and did very well. But she started with good genes. Both grandfathers were smart guys. What are the long-term consequences of this strong weed? I don't know.

One thing I can say for sure, with no doubt, is any sort of opioid or downer or alcohol or weed fucks up your ability to perform mental tasks. It's proven and there is no question. So, anyone who wants to get ahead in brain careers like coding, engineering, medicine, law, accounting, etc., cannot use the aforementioned drugs while doing their job. And I would add too much of that crap in their off time may effect their day job as well. Especially opioids and alcohol.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 4:57:58 AM EDT
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Steel, aluminum, magnesium, and iron foundry

Oh, we have felons.

Everything from manslaughter to felony dui.  I’ve got 8 guys on work release.

Druggies and thieves are usually worthless workers.

I’ll take all the violent offenders they can give me though.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 5:15:56 AM EDT
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Ex cons can't get CPA and law license.  So no.
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Mostly. I went to law school with a guy who had to get a waiver from the Bar Association to enroll. He had some minor drug stuff years before. He's a practicing attorney now.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 5:17:04 AM EDT
[#46]
No.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 5:17:53 AM EDT
[#47]
At least in my department (IT) my company requires a low-level security clearance (ADP II - Public Trust)  because of Federal Government contracts, so we don't have any ex cons that I know of. Between that and the drug test it's full of old White guys. Has to be the oldest, Whitest demographic place I've ever worked. We have a couple of guys with walkers. No shit.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 5:18:47 AM EDT
[#48]
Nope, cant get a clearance being an ex-con.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 5:21:46 AM EDT
[#49]
No we have background checks.

That doesn't mean fuck all. The worst people I know have never been caught.
Link Posted: 7/31/2019 5:49:38 AM EDT
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Steel, aluminum, magnesium, and iron foundry

Oh, we have felons.

Everything from manslaughter to felony dui.  I’ve got 8 guys on work release.

Druggies and thieves are usually worthless workers.

I’ll take all the violent offenders they can give me though.
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Sounds about right.
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