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Lol, I guess so? Certainly posting low numbers... I'm sure due to savvy government decisions.

What's funny is, the Florida's major gaff has been their unemployment system. But it's not the money that's the problem, it's the computer system. Funding wise, they weren't actually doing that bad.

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Why havent they been selling that instead of throwing it out? Are normal kitchens not good enough to cook it?

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I've been in food service for a lot of my adult life and most stuff is in 40# packs. I've never seen a 300lb package of butter. 40# blocks? Yeah, but most foodservice operations prefer 40# cases of 1# individually wrapped blocks of butter.

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Blaming our government for this virus is kinda like blaming the NYC city council for 9/11
This virus exists to the extent it does because China lied and concealed the truth.
They are responsible for this. Every other government is simply trying to choose the least worst path through this mess...because there is no good path.

I'd be fine with Trump sending a letter to China stating that we have elected to default on 100% of our debt to them, that we consider their neglect an act of war, and that in response we are writing our debt to them off our books...end of game. Fuck them...their industry...their economy...and the nations who foster them. I'm not sure who would be more pissed....China, or all the nations they owe (our) money to.

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Why havent they been selling that instead of throwing it out? Are normal kitchens not good enough to cook it?

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Sell to whom?

People are running out of money. Get to no money and there is no buying food.

Donate it?  Have you ever tried giving restaurant and commercial packaged kitchen food to a charity?  I had the Salvation Army and an evangelical soup kitchen turn down perfectly good food because it wasn't coming from a commercial grocer.

Sell it to retail grocers like Wegman's or Publix? Not from a non commercial source where they can be certain it was stored properly.

Each passing day I am happier that I have enough land to grow my own food. It we hit 25% unemployed we'll see a return to Great Depression and wandering bands of the homeless and malnourished,

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Boy, you nailed it. Business owners are lazy fucks who got where they are by not working very hard. I know my businesses were all built by effectively vacationing 12-16 hours a day, seven days a week, for 25 years. It's a good thing I never had to work around adversity or problems to save a company. Not once. I just sat on my hands and whistled, hoping it would all work out.

Government mandated shutdowns across the board are not free market, and do not allow the same flexibility to pivot in a new direction, when all of your potential new customers are closed or unemployed. If money is not moving, there is nowhere to pivot to..

There sure are some god damned economic geniuses on here who can explain business operations, even though they have never ran one.

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Someone doesn’t know how sovereign debt and markets work.

I see this idea posted all the time and it’s just as retarded now as it was 5 minutes ago the last time I read it.

Laughably unworkable and almost certainly more detrimental to the US in the long run.

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No, the entire world would be broke, and the chaos that ensued would be unlike anything we have ever seen. A word war would soon follow. Not "everyone" would abandoned China.

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Sell to whom?

People are running out of money. Get to no money and there is no buying food.

Donate it?  Have you ever tried giving restaurant and commercial packaged kitchen food to a charity?  I had the Salvation Army and an evangelical soup kitchen turn down perfectly good food because it wasn't coming from a commercial grocer.

Sell it to retail grocers like Wegman's or Publix? Not from a non commercial source where they can be certain it was stored properly.

Each passing day I am happier that I have enough land to grow my own food. It we hit 25% unemployed we'll see a return to Great Depression and wandering bands of the homeless and malnourished,

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Once the states start opening things up the economy will rebound but it won't as fast as we would like.  There has been too much structural damage done to have a rapid recovery.

It took us over a year to recover from the trillion dollar hit to the economy by 911.  It will take us several years to fully recover from this 5-7 trillion dollar hit.

If Trump gets reelected we will probably be back to 3.5-4.0% unemployment by the end of his next term.  If Biden is elected we will probably be in the 7.0%  range.

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The Indians made sure Miami will never be another Vegas. Honestly I was pissed when that passed. I would love to have that here.

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Sell to whom?

People are running out of money. Get to no money and there is no buying food.

Donate it?  Have you ever tried giving restaurant and commercial packaged kitchen food to a charity?  I had the Salvation Army and an evangelical soup kitchen turn down perfectly good food because it wasn't coming from a commercial grocer.

Sell it to retail grocers like Wegman's or Publix? Not from a non commercial source where they can be certain it was stored properly.

Each passing day I am happier that I have enough land to grow my own food. It we hit 25% unemployed we'll see a return to Great Depression and wandering bands of the homeless and malnourished,

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Umm. Not packaged for retail?  

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Yeah, you never see that on products sitting on retail shelves.

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No cruise ships, no hotel stays, no tourism, no beaches.

These D.C. government robots with paychecks coming off the money press are so out of touch with how many Americans have nothing coming in right now. My neighbor owns a commercial food distribution biz that services restaurants and she can't afford to reopen it. All the employees(50-60) are hosed.

We have to get back to work..

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Once the states start opening things up the economy will rebound but it won't as fast as we would like.  There has been too much structural damage done to have a rapid recovery.

It took us over a year to recover from the trillion dollar hit to the economy by 911.  It will take us several years to fully recover from this 5-7 trillion dollar hit.

If Trump gets reelected we will probably be back to 3.5-4.0% unemployment by the end of his next term.  If Biden is elected we will probably be in the 7.0%  range.

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Our economy is like a train. We slammed on the emergency breaks. It will take much longer to start up than it was to slow down. When a train does an emergency stop, all that cargo and weight shifts forward. The locomotive itself could be damaged due to the braking system warping the wheels, railcars could be thrown off the track, etc.... it isn't like a car came to a controlled stop at a red light and started right back up again.

_{*I'm not a Train Conductor or Engineer, this is just a metaphor.}

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To fucking who? It's commercial food for commercial kitchens. Hotels, Restaurants.

It's not packaged all nice and neat like the stuff you see in the grocery store, and your local Susan isn't buying 300lbs of butter at time.

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Our economy is like a train. We slammed on the emergency breaks. It will take much longer to start up than it was to slow down. When a train does an emergency stop, all that cargo and weight shifts forward. The locomotive itself could be damaged due to the braking system warping the wheels, railcars could be thrown off the track, etc.... it isn't like a car came to a controlled stop at a red light and started right back up again.

_{*I'm not a Train Conductor or Engineer, this is just a metaphor.}

TALLAHASSEE  The Republican-controlled Florida Legislature faces tough choices in balancing the $93 billion state budget decimated by the coronavirus crisis, decisions that could wipe out or drastically reduce teacher raises, road work, affordable housing projects and more.


Lawmakers last month passed the spending plan based on revenue projections made in January, well before the coronavirus brought much of the economy to a halt. When state economists make new projections, likely no sooner than sometime in May, the Legislature will know how big of a hole they have to fill.


If it is large enough, it could wipe out or significantly reduce $500 million in teacher pay raises, nearly $400 million in state worker pay raises, the boost in Medicaid reimbursement rates for nursing homes and other pieces of a budget that won so much bipartisan support the spending plan passed unanimously.


Then the options left to lawmakers are decisions that Republican leaders don't typically want to make: accept federal bailout money to fill a large budget hole; borrow money in much larger amounts than in recent years; make drastic cuts to a range of programs; or raise taxes and fees  long considered unacceptable by Republican leaders.


Gov. Ron DeSantis and Senate President Bill Galvano, however, have pointed to Florida's $4 billion in reserves, the strong economy before the pandemic and the expected federal funding from the CARES Act as reasons to be hopeful the hit to state coffers won't be catastrophic.


DeSantis has even suggested the Legislature might not even have to come back the Capitol to rewrite the budget. He could sign the budget while vetoing enough projects to give a cushion that, combined with CARES Act funds, could cover any sharp drop in revenues.


"We've got to see what the economic prognosis looks like," Desantis said last week. "The numbers I've received are not anything that would cause us to have to redo the current fiscal year budget."


"And even next year, given the amount of money we've received, a lot of people feel that could be doable," he added.


But for now, the Legislature hasn't formally sent the budget to his desk, passed during the regular session that ended in March, and DeSantis has said he's solely focused on the pandemic response.


The early indications, though, suggest the downturn could be too steep, and lawmakers will need to redraft a spending plan based on more realistic revenue projections.


More than 26 million people filed for unemployment since mid-March, wiping out 10 years' worth of job gains. Retail sales for March fell 8.7 percent compared with February, according to a U.S. Census Bureau report. Industrial production fell 5.4 percent, the largest monthly drop since 1946. The Fitch Ratings agency predicted a "deep global recession" for this year on April 2.


For a state as reliant as Florida is on tourism, it points to a prolonged recovery. Florida gets 20 percent of its sales tax revenues from tourists, and 79 percent of its $33 billion general revenue fund.


The shock could ripple out beyond the hospitality sector, though, affecting parts of the budget not directly tied to sales taxes. Lawmakers opted not to raid the affordable housing trust fund this year, leaving $370 million in it, but if prospective homebuyers put off making that large purchase, it could put a dent in the real estate transaction taxes that flow into that trust fund.


Gasoline prices have plummeted as residents have been encouraged to stay home except for essential trips. That equals fewer gas taxes to pay for road work.


Galvano sent a memo to senators April 16 laying out how the CARES Act would benefit Florida, while acknowledging the abysmal economic news. Hospitals around the country will receive $30 billion; K-12 school districts will receive $770 million in grants; universities will be eligible for $792 million in grants.


"We're trying to find 127 million tourists to have the confidence to come back and patronize our state," Patronis said during a task force meeting aimed at reopening the state. "This is a one-of-a-kind enemy we've never seen before."


He's pointed to dire economic forecasts, such as a "stress test" from Moody's Analytics projecting Florida could face a $6.4 billion shortfall, combined with a $1.74 billion increase in Medicaid expenses, meaning lawmakers would be looking for $8.14 billion, or nearly 24 percent of its general revenue.


Tax increases, however, would be tricky to pass. House Speaker Jose Oliva has staunchly opposed them and DeSantis made it a campaign pledge to veto any tax increase.


Patronis has been urging state economists to convene to issue new revenue forecasts to account for the coronavirus. But Amy Baker, the state's chief economist, says they won't be able to make projections about revenues or the economy with any amount of confidence until mid-May at the earliest.


New numbers on March revenues, April unemployment figures and updated global and national economic forecasts from rating agencies won't be released until then, giving leaders little time to react to the budget hole for the fiscal budget year that begins July 1.


There will also be more decisions made in that time about when and how to reopen, which could give economists more clues as to how quickly the state will rebound.


For his part, DeSantis said he'll likely have to wield a hefty veto pen, even on programs he believes in, to have a big enough cushion to account for the economic downturn. Some projects could get funding the following year, he suggested.

Florida Chief Financial Officer Jimmy Patronis: "We're trying to find 127 million tourists to have the confidence to come back and patronize our state.''

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You should stick to talking about cop stuff.
Your knowledge of trains is about as bad as your knowlegde of the history of the .40 S&W.