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Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Financial "income/expense numbers" are not an estimate. They're certified by CPA's that can go to jail for certifying false numbers. In that text, Twitter admits the 5% number is subjective. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By captainpooby: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Here's the actual text from Twitter's SEC filing, regarding that 5% estimate. They seemed to cover their arses. While these numbers are based on what we believe to be reasonable estimates for the applicable period of measurement, there are inherent challenges in measuring usage and engagement across our large number of total accounts around the world. Furthermore, our metrics may be impacted by our information quality efforts, which are our overall efforts to reduce malicious activity on the service, inclusive of spam, malicious automation, and fake accounts. For example, there are a number of false or spam accounts in existence on our platform. We have performed an internal review of a sample of accounts and estimate that the average of false or spam accounts during the first quarter of 2022 represented fewer than 5% of our mDAU during the quarter. The false or spam accounts for a period represents the average of false or spam accounts in the samples during each monthly analysis period during the quarter. In making this determination, we applied significant judgment, so our estimation of false or spam accounts may not accurately represent the actual number of such accounts, and the actual number of false or spam accounts could be higher than we have estimated. We are continually seeking to improve our ability to estimate the total number of spam accounts and eliminate them from the calculation of our mDAU, and have made improvements in our spam detection capabilities that have resulted in the suspension of a large number of spam, malicious automation, and fake accounts. We intend to continue to make such improvements. After we determine an account is spam, malicious automation, or fake, we stop counting it in our mDAU, or other related metrics. We also treat multiple accounts held by a single person or organization as multiple mDAU because we permit people and organizations to have more than one account. Additionally, some accounts used by organizations are used by many people within the organization. As such, the calculations of our mDAU may not accurately reflect the actual number of people or organizations using our platform. That doesn't cover their ass at all if it's false and they just can't say "Oops!" if it's wrong. It's like putting out false income/expense numbers and saying "Well, they're pretty close. We think." Financial "income/expense numbers" are not an estimate. They're certified by CPA's that can go to jail for certifying false numbers. In that text, Twitter admits the 5% number is subjective. Technically, CPAs render an opinion that, in their mind, the financial statements are free from material misstatements. That doesn't mean that the numbers are right, just that the numbers are wrong in a small enough number to, in their opinion, not mislead investors. |
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Originally Posted By midmo: Liberals can't stand to be laughed at. It is a direct insult to their sense of moral and intellectual superiority. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By midmo: Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By mochaTX: Originally Posted By RSG:
Even the audience knows, everyone knows, he is on a warpath to kill twitter in its current state one way or another. Who knew it would be through poop emoji and laughter. Mockery is an extremely powerful weapon when deployed correctly. And I do think it's being used correctly here. Liberals can't stand to be laughed at. It is a direct insult to their sense of moral and intellectual superiority. This is exactly why our memes are so effective, and theirs fail. Their leaders to them are HOLY. As if they are god. Not to be mocked, derided, or spoken of in any disrespectful fashion. Ours are not. They're just people. The downfall of this company has been earned a thousand times or more. It's glorious, and I will sip it slowly. |
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Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Financial "income/expense numbers" are not an estimate. They're certified by CPA's that can go to jail for certifying false numbers. In that text, Twitter admits the 5% number is subjective. View Quote Nice try, but it's not gonna work. They reported that same number for eleven consecutive quarters, and won't describe the methodology. If they can't demonstrate retroactively across those eleven quarters that their methodology was sound, repeatable, and of sufficient sample size, it's fraud. IMHO any data scientist could rip this apart in 30 seconds. Twitter is leaning on the data being secret to justify that number since 2019. They have now lost that luxury of being able to lie and not be called out on it. And since they are unable to substantiate it or unwilling to even describe the process, it certainly appears to be a falsehood on its face. If it can be demonstrated that twitter knew, or COULD HAVE KNOWN that 5% number was false, the jig is up. |
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Originally Posted By PepePewPew: Do not disclose confidential, proprietary information, or discuss internal conversations, policies or products outside of the office. You employ adults who have to be told not to do that? As for the rest, if you've got nothing to hide, what are you worried about? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By fargo007: Nice try, but it's not gonna work. They reported that same If it can be demonstrated that twitter knew, or COULD HAVE KNOWN that 5% number was false, the jig is up. View Quote no way they don't. Trending data should easily show bots repeating identical statements. |
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Originally Posted By fargo007: Nice try, but it's not gonna work. They reported that same number for eleven consecutive quarters, and won't describe the methodology. If they can't demonstrate retroactively across those eleven quarters that their methodology was sound, repeatable, and of sufficient sample size, it's fraud. IMHO any data scientist could rip this apart in 30 seconds. Twitter is leaning on the data being secret to justify that number since 2019. They have now lost that luxury of being able to lie and not be called out on it. And since they are unable to substantiate it or unwilling to even describe the process, it certainly appears to be a falsehood on its face. If it can be demonstrated that twitter knew, or COULD HAVE KNOWN that 5% number was false, the jig is up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Financial "income/expense numbers" are not an estimate. They're certified by CPA's that can go to jail for certifying false numbers. In that text, Twitter admits the 5% number is subjective. Nice try, but it's not gonna work. They reported that same number for eleven consecutive quarters, and won't describe the methodology. If they can't demonstrate retroactively across those eleven quarters that their methodology was sound, repeatable, and of sufficient sample size, it's fraud. IMHO any data scientist could rip this apart in 30 seconds. Twitter is leaning on the data being secret to justify that number since 2019. They have now lost that luxury of being able to lie and not be called out on it. And since they are unable to substantiate it or unwilling to even describe the process, it certainly appears to be a falsehood on its face. If it can be demonstrated that twitter knew, or COULD HAVE KNOWN that 5% number was false, the jig is up. So what happens then? SEC comes down and files charges? Who gets hooked? Is it Jack Dorsey or all the CEOs/executives for the duration of the falsification? Class action lawsuits from shareholders and every advertiser/customer? What about the folks that paid to have their tweets get more exposure? |
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"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f--- things up"
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Originally Posted By fargo007: I just read that article. People have no idea how deep of a hole these tech companies have fucking dug. Jack "Linguini arms" Dorsey's sudden exit wasn't just because he needed a change of scenery. Twitter has reported a less than 5% fake account ratio since 2019. Eleven consecutive quarters. It's simply not believable at a kindergarten statistics level. View Quote Yeah, I wondered about that. What was his stated reason for leaving, and is he still a major shareholder? |
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Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Here's the actual text from Twitter's SEC filing, regarding that 5% estimate. They seemed to cover their arses. While these numbers are based on what we believe to be reasonable estimates for the applicable period of measurement, there are inherent challenges in measuring usage and engagement across our large number of total accounts around the world. Furthermore, our metrics may be impacted by our information quality efforts, which are our overall efforts to reduce malicious activity on the service, inclusive of spam, malicious automation, and fake accounts. For example, there are a number of false or spam accounts in existence on our platform. We have performed an internal review of a sample of accounts and estimate that the average of false or spam accounts during the first quarter of 2022 represented fewer than 5% of our mDAU during the quarter. The false or spam accounts for a period represents the average of false or spam accounts in the samples during each monthly analysis period during the quarter. In making this determination, we applied significant judgment, so our estimation of false or spam accounts may not accurately represent the actual number of such accounts, and the actual number of false or spam accounts could be higher than we have estimated. We are continually seeking to improve our ability to estimate the total number of spam accounts and eliminate them from the calculation of our mDAU, and have made improvements in our spam detection capabilities that have resulted in the suspension of a large number of spam, malicious automation, and fake accounts. We intend to continue to make such improvements. After we determine an account is spam, malicious automation, or fake, we stop counting it in our mDAU, or other related metrics. We also treat multiple accounts held by a single person or organization as multiple mDAU because we permit people and organizations to have more than one account. Additionally, some accounts used by organizations are used by many people within the organization. As such, the calculations of our mDAU may not accurately reflect the actual number of people or organizations using our platform. View Quote |
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Your conclusions were all wrong
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Originally Posted By ZF-1: So what happens then? SEC comes down and files charges? Who gets hooked? Is it Jack Dorsey or all the CEOs/executives for the duration of the falsification? Class action lawsuits from shareholders and every advertiser/customer? What about the folks that paid to have their tweets get more exposure? View Quote Ned Segal (Twitter's CFO) signed off on the 8K filing with the 5% number. He's probably sweating. If the company finds a material error in the 8K, he knows they're suppose to file an amendment within a week or so. He's the person with the legal responsibility for filing the reports. Musk has raised that as a error, a material issue to the acquisition, and an SEC filing issue. That dumps the issue in the Twitter CFO's lap. Brilliant move by Musk's team. |
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Originally Posted By JuanPing: Ohhhh shit...
View Quote The spice must flow. And flow it does. So spicey. |
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Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Ned Segal (Twitter's CFO) signed off on the 8K filing with the 5% number. He's probably sweating. If the company finds a material error in the 8K, he knows they're suppose to file an amendment within a week or so. He's the person with the legal responsibility for filing the reports. Musk has raised that as a error, a material issue to the acquisition, and an SEC filing issue. That dumps the issue in the Twitter CFO's lap. Brilliant move by Musk's team. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By ZF-1: So what happens then? SEC comes down and files charges? Who gets hooked? Is it Jack Dorsey or all the CEOs/executives for the duration of the falsification? Class action lawsuits from shareholders and every advertiser/customer? What about the folks that paid to have their tweets get more exposure? Ned Segal (Twitter's CFO) signed off on the 8K filing with the 5% number. He's probably sweating. If the company finds a material error in the 8K, he knows they're suppose to file an amendment within a week or so. He's the person with the legal responsibility for filing the reports. Musk has raised that as a error, a material issue to the acquisition, and an SEC filing issue. That dumps the issue in the Twitter CFO's lap. Brilliant move by Musk's team. Correct me if I’m wrong but I remember sarbabes-oxley requiring officer to sign off on stuff like that and are held PERSONALLY liable. They can’t hide behind company and officer role. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: LOL the end is awesome. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By realwar: LOL the end is awesome. The PV person (I'm assuming who recorded it) just trolled the shit out of that guy, and he didn't even realize it. As they say, "In Vino Veritas" |
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Originally Posted By JuanPing: Ohhhh shit...
View Quote Elon pretty soon. |
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Originally Posted By JuanPing: Ohhhh shit...
View Quote What a fucking douchebag that guy is. Enjoy unemployment fuck-face. |
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Originally Posted By spidey07: Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember sarbabes-oxley requiring officer to sign off on stuff like that and are held PERSONALLY liable. They can't hide behind company and officer role. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By spidey07: Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By ZF-1: So what happens then? SEC comes down and files charges? Who gets hooked? Is it Jack Dorsey or all the CEOs/executives for the duration of the falsification? Class action lawsuits from shareholders and every advertiser/customer? What about the folks that paid to have their tweets get more exposure? Ned Segal (Twitter's CFO) signed off on the 8K filing with the 5% number. He's probably sweating. If the company finds a material error in the 8K, he knows they're suppose to file an amendment within a week or so. He's the person with the legal responsibility for filing the reports. Musk has raised that as a error, a material issue to the acquisition, and an SEC filing issue. That dumps the issue in the Twitter CFO's lap. Brilliant move by Musk's team. Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember sarbabes-oxley requiring officer to sign off on stuff like that and are held PERSONALLY liable. They can't hide behind company and officer role. That's correct. The CFO signed that 8k, and he is personally liable. Typically the CFO hires external auditors to prepare/approve those SEC filings before he signs them. |
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Originally Posted By Freakinout: That plus censorship and aiding in election fraud for at least 2 presidential elections.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Freakinout: Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By elcope: https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/twitter-elon-musk-spam-bots-big-tech/2022/05/17/id/1070253/ A tool created by the software company SparkToro that distinguishes real accounts from fake accounts known as “spambots,” or “bots,” found that almost half of President Joe Biden's 22.2 million Twitter followers were not real, Newsweek reported on Tuesday. I just read that article. People have no idea how deep of a hole these tech companies have fucking dug. Jack "Linguini arms" Dorsey's sudden exit wasn't just because he needed a change of scenery. Twitter has reported a less than 5% fake account ratio since 2019. Eleven consecutive quarters. It's simply not believable at a kindergarten statistics level. That plus censorship and aiding in election fraud for at least 2 presidential elections.... Thats where the real value lies in these unicorns - in the ability to shape narratives. Its the same reason these billionaire nosferatus buy newspapers that bleed red ink. They dont care that much about subscriptions, its about manipulating narratives from which they can capitalize which will more than make up for the losses incurred from a newspaper. Think green energy boondoggles, nonsensical rail projects, new sportsball stadiums, etc. Add in the fintech, any company that claims to use AI for anything, the imploding housing bubble and the entire crypto space and we're looking at a very bumpy ride as reality reasserts itself into this nations consciousness. |
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Originally Posted By realwar: LOL the end is awesome. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By realwar: LOL the end is awesome. Project Ver e toss? What's that? |
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Originally Posted By nophun: What a fucking douchebag that guy is. Enjoy unemployment fuck-face. View Quote That dude probably had a better job offer waiting for him. There are literally hundreds of "woke" corporations that will hire him. Hell he may even get hired by Disney. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTCJrRcWIAAuW_j?format=jpg&name=large View Quote So half of his only 22M followers are fake, on a site where its free and easy to click to follow....and we're supposed to believe 81M went out and voted..... |
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Originally Posted By LurchAddams: It doesn't work like that. Twitter even said that the actual number could be higher than 5%. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LurchAddams: Originally Posted By fargo007: ... If it can be demonstrated that twitter knew, or COULD HAVE KNOWN that 5% number was false, the jig is up. It doesn't work like that. Twitter even said that the actual number could be higher than 5%. I disagree. Leaning on the exact same number for 11 consecutive quarters is powerful evidence that the number is in fact... made up. Or they are deliberately using a methodology that mendaciously backs them into that number. And bits of CYA language intended to obfuscate or equivocate it in the filing are not sufficient to overcome what we both know is a deliberate falsehood. Any data scientist can rip them apart, and that's what will happen here, aside of the whistleblowers who will not want to be on the hook for it. Remember - Musk already knows the real numbers here, and they're not 5%. |
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Originally Posted By elcope: Yeah, I wondered about that. What was his stated reason for leaving, and is he still a major shareholder? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By fargo007: I just read that article. People have no idea how deep of a hole these tech companies have fucking dug. Jack "Linguini arms" Dorsey's sudden exit wasn't just because he needed a change of scenery. Twitter has reported a less than 5% fake account ratio since 2019. Eleven consecutive quarters. It's simply not believable at a kindergarten statistics level. Yeah, I wondered about that. What was his stated reason for leaving, and is he still a major shareholder? He provided no substantive reason for leaving. My read on it is that he allowed a golem to be created to manipulate the system. Others moved the golem into a central role. Dorsey realized they're committing securities fraud with it and misleading advertisers and wanted it to stop, and got shouted down by the wokes, so he left. He is certainly very bitter, especially at having been replaced by a totally inexperienced schlub like the chubby indian. There's a mighty good chance he's among the people blowing the whistle on stuff to Elon, from the perspective that in his mind twitter is doomed on its current course. |
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Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: 3 million when he announced his campaign, almost 90 when banned. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise: Originally Posted By PepePewPew: How many followers did DJT have? 3 million when he announced his campaign, almost 90 when banned. And I 'spect zero of them were bots. |
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Twitter board now trying to close deal. Power play.
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Originally Posted By nightstalker: Twitter board now trying to close deal. Power play. https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/17/tech/twitter-board-elon-musk-reliable-sources/index.html View Quote You have to assume that they have a pretty solid legal team of their own. |
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The article also mentioned about 70% of EM's Twitter follower accounts are fake, which is exactly the point of why EM's current path.
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View Quote LOLOL after watching this video, something just clicked in my head. Did you notice that warning twitter had to give their employees? They mentioned dating sites. THE PV JOURNALISTS HAVE TOTALLY BEEN HONEYDICKING THE TWITTER PEOPLE LOLOLOL |
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Originally Posted By fargo007: This is exactly why our memes are so effective, and theirs fail. Their leaders to them are HOLY. As if they are god. Not to be mocked, derided, or spoken of in any disrespectful fashion. Ours are not. They're just people. The downfall of this company has been earned a thousand times or more. It's glorious, and I will sip it slowly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By midmo: Originally Posted By fargo007: Originally Posted By mochaTX: Originally Posted By RSG:
Even the audience knows, everyone knows, he is on a warpath to kill twitter in its current state one way or another. Who knew it would be through poop emoji and laughter. Mockery is an extremely powerful weapon when deployed correctly. And I do think it's being used correctly here. Liberals can't stand to be laughed at. It is a direct insult to their sense of moral and intellectual superiority. This is exactly why our memes are so effective, and theirs fail. Their leaders to them are HOLY. As if they are god. Not to be mocked, derided, or spoken of in any disrespectful fashion. Ours are not. They're just people. The downfall of this company has been earned a thousand times or more. It's glorious, and I will sip it slowly. Drop a negative trump meme and see how that goes... |
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Originally Posted By nightstalker: Twitter board now trying to close deal. Power play. https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/17/tech/twitter-board-elon-musk-reliable-sources/index.html View Quote The original agreement was at $54, now the stock price has dropped to $37. Do those idiots at Twitter really believe they can force Musk to buy at $54? |
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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTCJrRcWIAAuW_j?format=jpg&name=large View Quote I think the same tool or another one, found elons followers to be about 60% fake/bots Not surprising since the top replies to all of his stuff is “senpai notice me!” Shit and scams. |
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Originally Posted By LinkedM4: LOLOL after watching this video, something just clicked in my head. Did you notice that warning twitter had to give their employees? They mentioned dating sites. THE PV JOURNALISTS HAVE TOTALLY BEEN HONEYDICKING THE TWITTER PEOPLE LOLOLOL View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LinkedM4: LOLOL after watching this video, something just clicked in my head. Did you notice that warning twitter had to give their employees? They mentioned dating sites. THE PV JOURNALISTS HAVE TOTALLY BEEN HONEYDICKING THE TWITTER PEOPLE LOLOLOL Waitwaitwait, twitter's greybars and underscores have been telling us that Project Veritas isn't real. It's Been DiscreditedTM DebonkedTM even Discredited because they "Edit the tapes", and they can pull up a dailykos article which presumably has 1 example of it. We know that's unacceptable because, they're not like the regular media that can get its reporting wrong continously for a decade (and intentionally so.) and they're still credible. Sooooooooo if PV is fake, and these are all actors... why is twitter circulating an email warning them not to talk to the fake people? And to, mention them, BY NAME? Yeah. |
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