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Originally Posted By Nehi: If you don't know, one foot in the black is a term used when talking about constructing direct fireline, following the burned and burning edge. View Quote I've had a whole 2 days of classroom wildlands firefighting experience. We have a refresher afternoon on a couple old fire trucks and wildlands truck up on the mountain, once a year. Keeping one foot in the back was stressed during the training. I was telling the students about the experience, and the saying when we were trying to come up with something for the back of the shirt. The liked the phrase, and the reasoning for it. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: I've had a whole 2 days of classroom wildlands firefighting experience. We have a refresher afternoon on a couple old fire trucks and wildlands truck up on the mountain, once a year. Keeping one foot in the back was stressed during the training. View Quote I seem to recall a book with that title. It was beaten into our heads that it's the safest and the most dangerous place to be. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: I've had a whole 2 days of classroom wildlands firefighting experience. We have a refresher afternoon on a couple old fire trucks and wildlands truck up on the mountain, once a year. Keeping one foot in the back was stressed during the training. I was telling the students about the experience, and the saying when we were trying to come up with something for the back of the shirt. The liked the phrase, and the reasoning for it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By guns762: Originally Posted By Nehi: If you don't know, one foot in the black is a term used when talking about constructing direct fireline, following the burned and burning edge. I've had a whole 2 days of classroom wildlands firefighting experience. We have a refresher afternoon on a couple old fire trucks and wildlands truck up on the mountain, once a year. Keeping one foot in the back was stressed during the training. I was telling the students about the experience, and the saying when we were trying to come up with something for the back of the shirt. The liked the phrase, and the reasoning for it. Huh, I'm probably wrong about that then. |
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Originally Posted By medicmandan: I seem to recall a book with that title. It was beaten into our heads that it's the safest and the most dangerous place to be. View Quote Our fire chief stressed to us the importance of remembering the wind patterns of our particular area, and where our especially dangerous areas are located. I found it pretty fascinating, studying the various wildlands fires, and what led to the disasters in fighting them. There are very few cabin owners who are able enough to do anything if there is a fire. Those of us who are able are expected to do what we can until(1.5hrs) the real deal can make it up on the mountain. There have been several small fires over the years, and in 88, the whole area almost went up. My inlaws owned the cabin at that time, and it was slurry bombed to prevent it from getting burned. My wife says things were pink for a long time. |
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I guess I forgot that it was a safety saying.
Your class looks fun, very impressive. |
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Originally Posted By brass: The orange/black really only looks decent on grey or white shirts. And white shirts are "too basic" or something, rare. That leaves grey. The green really clashes with the orange,. the yellow/black one would fit on more colors but I understandyour affinity for orange/black. I guess the one that is the light grey shade of OD could work, but just on the edge of it, not sure what that color is called. Sage or something? View Quote H&R upper discontinued grey. |
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Originally Posted By brass: The orange/black really only looks decent on grey or white shirts. And white shirts are "too basic" or something, rare. That leaves grey. The green really clashes with the orange,. the yellow/black one would fit on more colors but I understandyour affinity for orange/black. I guess the one that is the light grey shade of OD could work, but just on the edge of it, not sure what that color is called. Sage or something? https://i.imgur.com/FB2Zimp.png Hex : #a7ae9e Rgb : rgb(167,174,158) Hsl : 86° , 9% , 65% RgbaColor : rgba(167,174,158,1.00) lab XyzColor : 37.244, 40.956, 38.29 HsvaColor : hsva(86.25,9.2%,68.24%,1) HsvColor : 86° , 9% , 68% CIE L*a*b* : 70.15, -5.43, 7.36 View Quote I agree. I'm not a fan of white. We are limited on the shirt color for this particular brand. "Next Level Tri-Blend T-shirt On black, the graphic colors have to change. Not wild about this either. I'm partial to gray, but I've got a dresser full of gray shirts.... |
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Maybe light blue for water, and outline the water being dropped by the black bomber on the orange fire on the black vegetation?
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Maybe light blue for water, and outline the water being dropped by the black bomber on the orange fire on the black vegetation? View Quote This could be a case for 3 colors. If any shit color other than grey is desired to look good, you'll need to add something to make it pop and be visible/recognizable from a distance instead of having to get within 3 feet and puzzle out what exactly the shirt is showing like some magic eye puzzle. |
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The person who complains most, and is the most critical of others has the most to hide.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
Originally Posted By brass: This could be a case for 3 colors. If any shit color other than grey is desired to look good, you'll need to add something to make it pop and be visible/recognizable from a distance instead of having to get within 3 feet and puzzle out what exactly the shirt is showing like some magic eye puzzle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By backbencher: Maybe light blue for water, and outline the water being dropped by the black bomber on the orange fire on the black vegetation? This could be a case for 3 colors. If any shit color other than grey is desired to look good, you'll need to add something to make it pop and be visible/recognizable from a distance instead of having to get within 3 feet and puzzle out what exactly the shirt is showing like some magic eye puzzle. I think a light blue shirt, with orange fire, black airplane & vegetation, with blue falling from the black airplane, surrounded by black terrain/vegetation & orange fire, w/ some reflected orange details on the plane? Do they do night drops on fires? |
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FWIW, custom ink will allow you to offer as many different shirt colors as you want as long as the ink colors remain the same, no extra charge.
Come up with the design and let purchasers chose their base color. |
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Personally, I have the art talent of a yak, so it doesn't matter to me what the design is- I'm gonna buy one.
However, I do agree with the grey T-shirt color. |
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Toss a little fuel on the fire.
Tell the warring factions the "investors like green." Then run. EBR |
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I'm the odd man out - I like the dark green/orange. Also really like the C-130 on the front with Fire Crew on it, looks very cool.
Whatever you come up with, put me down for one, maybe two. |
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Originally Posted By EBR666: Toss a little fuel on the fire. Tell the warring factions the "investors like green." Then run. EBR View Quote The warring factions wanted to take that fuel and burn me at the stake. .....we were having a pretty good time arguing about it. It's hilarious how emotionally involved students, who dont seem to be really into the project, suddenly become. |
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Originally Posted By armoredman: I'm the odd man out - I like the dark green/orange. Also really like the C-130 on the front with Fire Crew on it, looks very cool. Whatever you come up with, put me down for one, maybe two. View Quote As long as custom ink let's us allow you to choose the color of the shirt, it should be possible. I'm hoping we get some ideas for the front today. I think the Panther is too difficult to see when small. We need to do something else. Not sure I like the "307" either. That's getting a bit played out. The students may over rule me on that. I'll see how much they are tied to that. |
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What are the restrictions on using Steamboat (go Pokes ).
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I'm still partial to a shirt color more like the color of bunker gear. Here's some options from the Customink website.
Attached File Attached File Attached File None of them is really exact, but I have a drawer full of mostly gray shirts with a panther on them, so something different would be nice. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By redoubt: I'm still partial to a shirt color more like the color of bunker gear. Here's some options from the Customink website. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74363/one_jpg-2625810.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74363/two_jpg-2625811.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74363/three_jpg-2625814.JPG None of them is really exact, but I have a drawer full of mostly gray shirts with a panther on them, so something different would be nice. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74363/PXL_20210424_194127555_jpg-2625818.JPG View Quote I hear you. I'm in the same boat, as far as my drawer. If we can add multiple items, we should be able to offer a cheaper shirt, different from the Next Level shirts that we have gone with the last few years. It would allow you to order something in a different color of your choice. I hope. The Next Level shirt that seem to be pretty popular, comes only in these colors. It is expensive though. I find myself wearing those shirts way more than the older, thicker material shirts we did in the past. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: I hear you. I'm in the same boat, as far as my drawer. If we can add multiple items, we should be able to offer a cheaper shirt, different from the Next Gen shirts that we have gone with the last few years. It would allow you to order something in a different color of your choice. I hope. The Next Gen shirt that seem to be pretty popular, comes only in these colors. It is expensive though. I find myself wearing those shirts way more than the older, thicker material shirts we did in the past. https://i.imgur.com/E99Aul6.png View Quote Regardless of the final decisions, I'll be sure to get one. Panther shirts are my favorite work-from-home uniform. |
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Life is about choices.
If you make a mistake once, it's a mistake. You make the same mistake again, that's a choice. |
Originally Posted By guns762: The beginnings of our lookout roof is also going well. https://i.imgur.com/kOJzl8q.jpg We will add shutters once the roof is complete. View Quote Which mini-split A/C compressor is that? Didn't know those fire towers had A/C. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Kids are liking this at the moment. https://i.imgur.com/lKFUb3h.png https://i.imgur.com/nRr7xrk.png View Quote Nice! |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Kids are liking this at the moment. https://i.imgur.com/lKFUb3h.png https://i.imgur.com/nRr7xrk.png View Quote I do too. The grey shirt selected for the ship build is the softest and most comfortable shirt I have. |
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Are sweatshirts/hoodies going to be offered again this year? I love mine from last year. Wearing it now. Please, no matter what the design have an option for a pocket on the t-shirt if that's possible.
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Originally Posted By FestusMcGee: Are sweatshirts/hoodies going to be offered again this year? I love mine from last year. Wearing it now. Please, no matter what the design have an option for a pocket on the t-shirt if that's possible. View Quote Kids want a sweatshirt option too. We will have one or two. |
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I have only two suggestions for the shirt.
For a c-130 on the back: Make the tail number 307. Make the nose art a panther's head. Both will be small enough to be seen but unobtrusive. I do like the C130 on the front. |
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Originally Posted By xanadu: I have only two suggestions for the shirt. For a c-130 on the back: Make the tail number 307. Make the nose art a panther's head. Both will be small enough to be seen but unobtrusive. I do like the C130 on the front. View Quote Good suggestions. I'll pass them along. |
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Originally Posted By guns762: Kids are liking this at the moment. https://i.imgur.com/lKFUb3h.png https://i.imgur.com/nRr7xrk.png View Quote I like it. |
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Personally, I like the top left and bottom left. The stylized panther in the top left looks great and the panther-in-the-smoke is pretty cool.
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Life is about choices.
If you make a mistake once, it's a mistake. You make the same mistake again, that's a choice. |
Originally Posted By redoubt: Personally, I like the top left and bottom left. The stylized panther in the top left looks great and the panther-in-the-smoke is pretty cool. View Quote "bottom left" was just clip art pulled from old designs and left there so we could grab it again. Maybe we can work with that.... Panther in the smoke? ?????? |
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Originally Posted By guns762: "bottom left" was just clip art pulled from old designs and left there so we could grab it again. Maybe we can work with that.... Panther in the smoke? ?????? View Quote What I saw: The way the ink lined up on the panther, it looked like you were going for a pillar of smoke with the image a panther "emerging" from it. And the smoke jumpers were dropping in to fight the fire that was producing that pillar of smoke. |
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Life is about choices.
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Originally Posted By Subnet: "Easily the most honkified truck I've ever heard. He pulls that rope like a 13 year old beats his dick."
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Wow. They're making it tough. All of those look great.
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Life is about choices.
If you make a mistake once, it's a mistake. You make the same mistake again, that's a choice. |
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What about a mustard color, woodland fire guys spend a lot of time in mustard yellow?
I flipped the plane, when I first saw it I wondered if the C-130 was on fire roughly Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Papposilenus: What about a mustard color, woodland fire guys spend a lot of time in mustard yellow? I flipped the plane, when I first saw it I wondered if the C-130 was on fire roughly https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/179834/9CF995EA-D986-47D4-A3DB-FA05660AFE8F_jpe-2627468.JPG View Quote I think I still have a yellow nomex shirt in a box somewhere. |
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Originally Posted By Papposilenus: What about a mustard color, woodland fire guys spend a lot of time in mustard yellow? I flipped the plane, when I first saw it I wondered if the C-130 was on fire roughly https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/179834/9CF995EA-D986-47D4-A3DB-FA05660AFE8F_jpe-2627468.JPG View Quote I'll try to make sure we have a mustard/yellow shirt, but I'd like to stay with tri blend shirts, of some make, just to keep the soft feel that so many like. I think we are going to scrap the flag background. My 7th hr crew feels it's too much, and I agree. We also came up with an updated slurry graphic. They also want a different Panther on the nose of the C-130. We like the C-130 facing right, as it will be in our display. We still have lots different opinions on the front graphic. That's going to take more discussion. |
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Guns,
Comment about the font. Maybe it is my old eyes but the line running through all the letters hurts. For me, it makes it harder to read the text. |
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