We can be friends.  Do you want to help me with my hopper feeding experiments?

Nice!

I have an Ishapore 2A1 that I bought in the early '90's intending to Bubba into a Jungle/Scout.  It's beat to shit so nothing to cry over if I do but I haven't done anything yet.  One of these days I'll have my nazi dinosaur hunting rifle...

I recall seeing pictures of one in Bosnia.

The Steyr has conventional mounts. Funny that it's the only one bearing Coopers name.

I remember. It's a bunch of guys sitting around with AKs and leaning on one guys pack in the foreground is a Steyr.

As a tier Juan operator and coyote hunter I use a 1-8 combined with a pvs-14 and IR laser. Kinda covers all the bases.

Stripper clip loading was only 1 of three reasons for an EER scope, and, I believe the least important considering that Coopers own design for a production rifle didn't incorporate a stripper guide. I'm assuming it didn't because of box magazine loading. His design was also over the weight guidelines. I believe Cooper was a pretty practical and flexible guy. It's all the cult fanatics that follow him that read his writings as scripture and verse that aren't flexible or realistic.

Boy, ain't that the fukkin' God's honest truth!

Yep!  Plus you can carry 5 rds or 25 rds or somewhere in between

i like having available iron sights and I was not happy with the eyebox on a forward mounted LER scope

It seems to me people either think Coopers words are as infallible as the Bible or just stupid. There's way too much emotion associated with him. This is clear when you look at any scout rifle thread. And becomes even more clear when you realize a lot of the people posting for or against didn't even watch the gun Jesus video.

Two things - one, I want to set up my binary trigger in an upside down AR, and have my assistant gunner change mags, see how fast I can lay down suppressive fire.

Secondly, I want to figger out how to feed 10 round stripper clips into a 10 round single stack hopper, and slow the AR action down enough for it to feed - this would answer the mail for Connecticut, and perhaps have some advantages in California, New York, & elsewhere.

Now that I have a 3-D printer, my route to a functioning single stack hopper w/ stripper clip guide just opened up.

I think there's a picture of them patrolling with it, too.

Amen.  Again, the concept of a light, handy, simple, powerful rifle is a good one; but if you call it a "Scout", people totally lose their shit & start doing the "Hur hur hur muh Nazis an' dyno-sores!!!"

Shoot with both eyes open for more field of view and faster then a traditional scope

Kosovo (or Kosova if you’re Albanian). UCK guerillas.

I'd maybe go a wee bit shorter-16-18" should be better. Half mile sounds a little tough to walk under a bridge with it slung.

Nick

16 6.5creed SR25.

Stingers were interesting guns.  Ole Ian has a good episode on them.

JOKE

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That’s so appropriate it hurts.

@AeroEngineer  

The Savage and Ruger Scouts I've owned are set up for conventional scope mounts. The Ruger's are integral like all Ruger 77 actions Ive seen and the standard proprietary Ruger rings were included , and the Savage had tapped holes for standard mounts in the receiver IIRC.  

Okay, I stand corrected.  I thought the only way to mount a regular scope was with aftermarket parts, but I’m wrong.

Still, the setup from the factory clearly leans towards a LER scope.

Scout rifles are badass. Why any American man wouldn't want one is what's wrong with America.

Would I choose a scout rifle over a 12.5" Grendel small frame ar with a gen 3 vortex razor 1-10 if  I could only choose one? Hell no.

The ruger uses the same conventional mounts as any m77. The scout rail is removable, the conventional mounts are not.

I don't know why people continue to use this argument, it fails miserably at every level...

The Ruger's rear sight is secured using a single screw.
Off comes the sight, on goes the scope.



eta: The forward mounted rail can interfere with mounting scopes that have large diameter objective lenses.
Not my rifle or photo, stolen from gunsamerica.com

Same.

They're a great all around rifle.  They kinda suck for the daily gunfights we all get into.

The biggest mistake Cooper made with the Scout was the name. Some people (and I am one of them) automatically associate the name with the idea of a military scout -- like a Ranger. This was NOT what Cooper intended.

His idea was essentially a rifle for a modernized frontier scout, that is someone who could have one rifle and only one rifle to carry everywhere and do every job that needed doing. In his mind it had a short list of requirements it had to have, and a bunch that he thought would be nice. Must haves: extremely light weight and handy, iron sights, 3-point sling, a few select readily available short action calibers. Extra points if it had a DBL, bipod, extra ammo storage of some kind, a magazine cutoff feature, and so on. He was a fan of the fixed power scope only (he felt variables were unreliable), and for the scout he preferred it forward mounted -- but this was not considered an essential feature. He commented on red dots and other optics, but they simply were not reliable in his day. Not for a rifle like this.

Remember, it needed to be something you could take anywhere in America or even the world, so it needed to be bolt or lever action. And yes, he had no problem with the idea of a lever scout so long as it did the job and made weight.

He believed that the proper scout was better than the sum of its parts. That the owner of such a weapon would appreciate it as being the rifle perfected, and that CLOSE wasn't really close at all. It was either right or it was not, and until you owned one you simply could not understand.

He thought the Styer was as close as one could get in a factory firearm. He would not have appreciated the other factory offerings.

The Scout Rifle thing seems to always be debated. At one time I had a Steyr Scout and it was a great rifle. It was short, light, accurate and powerful. I got it cheap. I used it for about 2 years for hunting. I learned I didn't like the Ching sling because it wasn't quickly adjustable. I learned a low power scope and a 308 didn't really go together because you can shoot a 308 far but without some magnification it's limited. I sold it. But by then I realized what I was looking for. A lever Scout in 30-30. One day I found this rifle in a pawn shop. I put the Scout scope on it and it has been a fantastic rifle. Out to 200 yards where the 30-30 shines the low power scope is fine. On close up running game the scope gives you a heads up, both eyes open capability that is almost like a shotgun. If you need a fine aiming point for a longer shot you have a crosshair. The gun is short, light and powerful enough. The balance point makes it perfect to carry. This particular gun is unbelievably accurate. I will not try to relate it's accuracy because it isn't believable with a top load of Varget and a Sierra ProHunter 170 gr bullet. In addition it is zeroed dead on at 100 yards and the top of the bottom duplex is dead on at 200 yards. Can't beat that. I have killed over 100 deer with this rifle plus hogs and varmints. It is great for hunting in woods and broken country where shots are not real long. No one I know but me likes the set up and I know a number of advanced riflemen and a whole lot of hunters. It is true it isn't for everyone. But for someone who likes it a Scout set up is unbeatable.

I have a Marlin 336 30/30 set up just like that. Very nice, light set up for brush hunting within about 100 yards or so.