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Quoted: we can't let them drag us onto their "turf", they'll have the advantage. record everything, then fill up the courts and media with their BS. Don't argue, cause a scene, start a fight, or threaten to take action. (yes. physically defend yourself, by all means) Collect your info and just do it (call the owners, or cops, post stuff on-line, try and get the media involved.) We can beat them at their own game. we have to be smart about it. View Quote You don't beat them at their game by playing the same game. |
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You don't make things better by acting like a fool. It just alienates people from your position. Imagine if your hero in this case allowed the clerk to screech uncontrollably and then walked out as asked. Then, contact the owner.....post the video if he wanted to. The owner may be a good guy who just hired a dumbass. Now the Trump shirt wearing tard made Trump supporters look like fools. Stupid behavior on the part of so called conservatives won't win anyone over. Stupid behavior on the part of liberals is the best chance for us to convince the majority of fence sitters to look away from liberals. Behaving just as stupidly as the liberal side does us no favors. Also, side note....there are lots of things that are crimes that ultimately can only be prosecuted if there is a willing victim in prosecution. Doesn't mean a crime wasn't occurring and if LE has a reasonable belief that a crime was occurring, they can take enforcement action. The Supreme Court has already weighed in on this.....recently. Booze, drugs, strippers -- and trespassing, Supreme Court says WASHINGTON "Peaches" got creamed at the Supreme Court Monday. The justices ruled unanimously that District of Columbia police were within their rights to arrest 21 partygoers for trespassing and disorderly conduct in 2008 at a boozy bachelor party hosted by a woman named Peaches. Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that police made an "entirely reasonable inference" that those attending the party, which featured booze, drugs and strippers, knew they shouldn't be there because the home was vacant and in disarray. "The living room had been converted into a makeshift strip club," he wrote. "Strippers in bras and thongs, with cash stuffed in their garter belts, were giving lap dances. Upstairs, the officers found a group of men with a single, naked woman on a bare mattress the only bed in the house along with multiple open condom wrappers and a used condom. "Taken together, the condition of the house and the conduct of the party-goers allowed the officers to make several 'common-sense conclusions about human behavior.' " Furthermore, Thomas said, there was the problem of "a bachelor party without a bachelor." The case is important in setting a precedent for what police can and cannot do when confronted with similar situations. Here, a federal jury awarded $680,000 to the partygoers who sued the district after the arrests, and a federal appeals court upheld the verdict. While the court's judgment was unanimous, Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor said it need not have backed the police department's version of events. "The court's jurisprudence, I am concerned, sets the balance too heavily in favor of police unaccountability to the detriment of Fourth Amendment protection," Ginsburg wrote. When the case was heard during the first week of the court's 2017 term in October, several justices showed their age. Justice Stephen Breyer, 79, said it's no longer uncommon for young people to show up for a party without knowing all the details as opposed to during "the Middle Ages, with which I am more familiar." Justice Elena Kagan, 57, recalled parties she was invited to "long, long ago" where "marijuana was maybe present" and attendees didn't always know the host. The details were so tantalizing that after nearly an hour's debate, Justice Samuel Alito, 67, asked an obvious question. "Just out of curiosity," he said, "who is the bachelor at this bachelor party?" Even that was unclear to many celebrants, said their lawyer, Nathaniel Garrett. "So Peaches is the host at a bachelor party," Justice Anthony Kennedy, 81, mused. In his opinion for the court, Thomas cut into Peaches: "When the officers spoke with Peaches, she was nervous, agitated, and evasive," he wrote. "After initially insisting that she had permission to use the house, she ultimately confessed that this was a lie a fact that the owner confirmed. Peaches' lying and evasive behavior gave the officers reason to discredit everything she had told them." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In case you didn't know we are at war with the left. This is how you win the culture war. This is what it looks like on the front lines of the culture war. You can say he was trespassing all you want. Until he is charged with trespassing it legally doesn't matter. People with your mind set is why we are losing. It's why in 25 years we want even recognize this country anymore unless we fight. Also, side note....there are lots of things that are crimes that ultimately can only be prosecuted if there is a willing victim in prosecution. Doesn't mean a crime wasn't occurring and if LE has a reasonable belief that a crime was occurring, they can take enforcement action. The Supreme Court has already weighed in on this.....recently. Booze, drugs, strippers -- and trespassing, Supreme Court says WASHINGTON "Peaches" got creamed at the Supreme Court Monday. The justices ruled unanimously that District of Columbia police were within their rights to arrest 21 partygoers for trespassing and disorderly conduct in 2008 at a boozy bachelor party hosted by a woman named Peaches. Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that police made an "entirely reasonable inference" that those attending the party, which featured booze, drugs and strippers, knew they shouldn't be there because the home was vacant and in disarray. "The living room had been converted into a makeshift strip club," he wrote. "Strippers in bras and thongs, with cash stuffed in their garter belts, were giving lap dances. Upstairs, the officers found a group of men with a single, naked woman on a bare mattress the only bed in the house along with multiple open condom wrappers and a used condom. "Taken together, the condition of the house and the conduct of the party-goers allowed the officers to make several 'common-sense conclusions about human behavior.' " Furthermore, Thomas said, there was the problem of "a bachelor party without a bachelor." The case is important in setting a precedent for what police can and cannot do when confronted with similar situations. Here, a federal jury awarded $680,000 to the partygoers who sued the district after the arrests, and a federal appeals court upheld the verdict. While the court's judgment was unanimous, Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor said it need not have backed the police department's version of events. "The court's jurisprudence, I am concerned, sets the balance too heavily in favor of police unaccountability to the detriment of Fourth Amendment protection," Ginsburg wrote. When the case was heard during the first week of the court's 2017 term in October, several justices showed their age. Justice Stephen Breyer, 79, said it's no longer uncommon for young people to show up for a party without knowing all the details as opposed to during "the Middle Ages, with which I am more familiar." Justice Elena Kagan, 57, recalled parties she was invited to "long, long ago" where "marijuana was maybe present" and attendees didn't always know the host. The details were so tantalizing that after nearly an hour's debate, Justice Samuel Alito, 67, asked an obvious question. "Just out of curiosity," he said, "who is the bachelor at this bachelor party?" Even that was unclear to many celebrants, said their lawyer, Nathaniel Garrett. "So Peaches is the host at a bachelor party," Justice Anthony Kennedy, 81, mused. In his opinion for the court, Thomas cut into Peaches: "When the officers spoke with Peaches, she was nervous, agitated, and evasive," he wrote. "After initially insisting that she had permission to use the house, she ultimately confessed that this was a lie a fact that the owner confirmed. Peaches' lying and evasive behavior gave the officers reason to discredit everything she had told them." I bet you're old 50+ and can't understand for the life of you why the left is winning. Why socialism is so appealing to so many young people. I can tell you why!!!! People like you who stuck their heads in the sand while Marxist educated the youth. People like you who didn't want to get out and fight because you're better than that and the only people who protest are loser democrats who don't have jobs. People like you have cost us everything because your better than the left. But they are winning because they know how to win. Because they fight and are willing to do what it takes to win. You strategy of moral superiority is worthless because it is a loseing strategy. If you want to win you need to get off you high horse of moral superiority and get your hands dirty. When we win you can get back up on your high horse of moral superiority. |
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I have no problem with this. You don't beat them at their game by playing the same game. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The clerk asked him to leave, instead he stood around filming a YouTube video. The clerk should have simply called 911. The guy leaves or he goes to jail. He can take it up with the owner later. View Quote ok........ |
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Your position of moral superiority is worthless. I bet you're old 50+ and can't understand for the life of you why the left is winning. Why socialism is so appealing to so many young people. I can tell you why!!!! People like you who stuck their heads in the sand while Marxist educated the youth. People like you who didn't want to get out and fight because you're better than that and the only people who protest are loser democrats who don't have jobs. People like you have cost us everything because your better than the left. But they are winning because they know how to win. Because they fight and are willing to do what it takes to win. You strategy of moral superiority is worthless because it is a loseing strategy. If you want to win you need to get off you high horse of moral superiority and get your hands dirty. When we win you can get back up on your high horse of moral superiority. View Quote Or is your confusion just a show for the rest of us? |
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So what exactly is the Ginger Booty Bandit going to tell 911? There is a guy wearing a Trump Shirt in the store? ok........ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The clerk asked him to leave, instead he stood around filming a YouTube video. The clerk should have simply called 911. The guy leaves or he goes to jail. He can take it up with the owner later. ok........ |
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Are you this wrong in everything you do in your daily life? Or is your confusion just a show for the rest of us? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Your position of moral superiority is worthless. I bet you're old 50+ and can't understand for the life of you why the left is winning. Why socialism is so appealing to so many young people. I can tell you why!!!! People like you who stuck their heads in the sand while Marxist educated the youth. People like you who didn't want to get out and fight because you're better than that and the only people who protest are loser democrats who don't have jobs. People like you have cost us everything because your better than the left. But they are winning because they know how to win. Because they fight and are willing to do what it takes to win. You strategy of moral superiority is worthless because it is a loseing strategy. If you want to win you need to get off you high horse of moral superiority and get your hands dirty. When we win you can get back up on your high horse of moral superiority. Or is your confusion just a show for the rest of us? If you think it isn't a loseing strategy show me where it has produced a win. Prove to me where we are winning the culture war. Show me the large numbers of young people who are embracing capitalism and opposing socialism in any of its forms. |
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You say I'm wrong yet your strategy is one of complete and total failure. If you think it isn't a loseing strategy show me where it has produced a win. Prove to me where we are winning the culture war. Show me the large numbers of young people who are embracing capitalism and opposing socialism in any of its forms. View Quote Or are you just all talk? And, just to point out, you claim you are embracing capitalism. Ok. So, why are you NOT ok with someone denying service to someone? Why are you endorsing the socialistic idea of a business being prohibited from denying service to someone, anyone...for any reason? Shouldn't a business have the right to deny service in a capitalistic society? You are so inconsistent with your beliefs it's absurd. |
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So where is your videos of you taunting liberals? What have YOU done to push your agenda via extremism? Or are you just all talk? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You say I'm wrong yet your strategy is one of complete and total failure. If you think it isn't a loseing strategy show me where it has produced a win. Prove to me where we are winning the culture war. Show me the large numbers of young people who are embracing capitalism and opposing socialism in any of its forms. Or are you just all talk? How very Alinsky of you. |
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In this case the guys 1st Amendment rights were being violated. And the guy I was responding to thinks it's ok for because it's "their buisness their rules" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Since he’s been fired he’ll have to look for work on Monday. Next job interview will be interesting Attached File
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So where is your videos of you taunting liberals? What have YOU done to push your agenda via extremism? Or are you just all talk? And, just to point out, you claim you are embracing capitalism. Ok. So, why are you NOT ok with someone denying service to someone? Why are you endorsing the socialistic idea of a business being prohibited from denying service to someone, anyone...for any reason? Shouldn't a business have the right to deny service in a capitalistic society? You are so inconsistent with your beliefs it's absurd. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You say I'm wrong yet your strategy is one of complete and total failure. If you think it isn't a loseing strategy show me where it has produced a win. Prove to me where we are winning the culture war. Show me the large numbers of young people who are embracing capitalism and opposing socialism in any of its forms. Or are you just all talk? And, just to point out, you claim you are embracing capitalism. Ok. So, why are you NOT ok with someone denying service to someone? Why are you endorsing the socialistic idea of a business being prohibited from denying service to someone, anyone...for any reason? Shouldn't a business have the right to deny service in a capitalistic society? You are so inconsistent with your beliefs it's absurd. I never said anhthing about the clerk refusing service. Don't add something to my post that wasn't there. It shows a lack of intelligence. I have no problem with someone denying service and never said that they had to provide any service to him. |
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In this case the guys 1st Amendment rights were being violated. And the guy I was responding to thinks it's ok for because it's "their buisness their rules" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You couldn't find any proof so you decided to make make counter accusations. How very Alinsky of you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You say I'm wrong yet your strategy is one of complete and total failure. If you think it isn't a loseing strategy show me where it has produced a win. Prove to me where we are winning the culture war. Show me the large numbers of young people who are embracing capitalism and opposing socialism in any of its forms. Or are you just all talk? How very Alinsky of you. So you resort to insults. I'll admit I expected that. |
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Regarding the cashier: quite the display of shrill liberal virtue signaling from an inadequate, insecure little man.
And the Trump t-shirt dude was trespassing from the first time he failed to comply after being told to leave the store. |
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Says you and when did private buisness get the authority to infringe on individual rights? In your mind are they allowed to infringe on all rights or just the ones you don't like? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Private property private business. His rights were not violated. No where in the first amendment does it said that you have a right to free speech on private property. For refence here is the language of the 1st amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Its says Congress shall make no law. In no way does that refer to private property or private business. |
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You can't answer because it would show your hypocrisy and inconsistency. So you resort to insults. I'll admit I expected that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Since you edited you post after I responded I will respond to the edit. I never said anhthing about the clerk refusing service. Don't add something to my post that wasn't there. It shows a lack of intelligence. I have no problem with someone denying service and never said that they had to provide any service to him. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You say I'm wrong yet your strategy is one of complete and total failure. If you think it isn't a loseing strategy show me where it has produced a win. Prove to me where we are winning the culture war. Show me the large numbers of young people who are embracing capitalism and opposing socialism in any of its forms. Or are you just all talk? And, just to point out, you claim you are embracing capitalism. Ok. So, why are you NOT ok with someone denying service to someone? Why are you endorsing the socialistic idea of a business being prohibited from denying service to someone, anyone...for any reason? Shouldn't a business have the right to deny service in a capitalistic society? You are so inconsistent with your beliefs it's absurd. I never said anhthing about the clerk refusing service. Don't add something to my post that wasn't there. It shows a lack of intelligence. I have no problem with someone denying service and never said that they had to provide any service to him. Then, while you are doing nothing to further your cause, you demand that we should do the very thing you refuse to do. You sound like a community organizer. "You all need to do what I don't have the balls to do" There's a term for people like you. It's called a hypocrite. |
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You want us (but you aren't willing to do it yourself) to be radical. What's radical about leaving a business when ordered to? Nothing so you are opposed to it. You want us (but you aren't willing to walk the walk yourself) to go out, be radical, make a scene (like your hero did in the OP video) and refuse to leave just like your hero did in this video. Then, while you are doing nothing to further your cause, you demand that we should do the very thing you refuse to do. You sound like a community organizer. "You all need to do what I don't have the balls to do" There's a term for people like you. It's called a hypocrite. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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We are already in a post-constitutional, post-capitalist society now. We can't let the left keep beating us with our own rules.
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Quoted: Please....post those laws and how they would apply to this situation. I won't even ask you to restrict yourself to the state of the occurrence of this video. Pick any state and post a link to the text of the laws you are referencing and how they would apply to the situation in the video if it had happened in that state. Bonus points if you can show an actual instance of it happening and being prosecuted. View Quote I like a good insult as much as the next guy but damn keep it in context. |
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I guess you didn't get the news. Here it is. June 2018 decision. 7-2. "The Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Colorado baker who declined to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony. The case Masterpiece Cakeshop, Ltd v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission asked the high court to balance the religious rights of the baker against the couple's right to equal treatment under the law. Similar disputes have popped up across the U.S." https://www.foxnews.com/us/supreme-court-decides-colorado-gay-wedding-cake-case-a-timeline-of-events View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Trump shirt wearer is trespassing. Entitled prick thinks he can force a private business to sell him things. lol. Ginger boy is meltdown central. Couple of real winners. "The Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Colorado baker who declined to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony. The case Masterpiece Cakeshop, Ltd v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission asked the high court to balance the religious rights of the baker against the couple's right to equal treatment under the law. Similar disputes have popped up across the U.S." https://www.foxnews.com/us/supreme-court-decides-colorado-gay-wedding-cake-case-a-timeline-of-events https://www.denverpost.com/2018/12/17/masterpiece-cakeshop-lawsuit/ |
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Well since screech was fired, it was not his business or his rules.
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"He's still your president"
Turned the ginger into a screaming retard. Troll level 1000 ETA: good firing. Capitalism and customer service seems to be important to the owner. |
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There are more idiot collisions in this thread than just Ginger boy and Trump guy.
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After watching the video in the OP only...
Ginger boy has some issues. Probably a very strict curfew and mom. Who need "vape juice" that badly? Naked strawberry vabe juice in 6m...? What the fuck meter was pinging there too. I wanted to like the Maga guy, but WTF? |
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Amazing how the liberals and fucktards have infiltrated this great site of ARFCOM . I would gladly buy the trump guy a beer if ever in the Tucker area.
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BRB, getting some ginger snaps and milk. This thread delivers.
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You guys got issues.
Sorry but nowhere else in the world in any democracy would somebody kick off like that over support of a different party. This isn’t a one off how many videos we seen of people being chased out of places, hats stollen, people assaulted. Obama and hc have weaponised these idiots. The cry of racism,Russians,blah blah it’s worked the media stoked this up and they absorbed it like the npcs they are. Your democrats are in full melt down mode. The guy filming did a great job, there is now way I could have kept cool with that level of screeching. |
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Good to see all our DU posters showing up to defend their guy.
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