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Link Posted: 6/24/2018 4:27:57 PM EST
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Of the routinely under-researched leadership of WWII, the men who guided the great Naval conquest of the Axis, Fleet Admirals E. J. King and W. Leahy are two fascinating characters with spines of hardened steel.

The logistics planning alone in the Pacific can absorb years of study, convoy supply chains when steaming times were measured in weeks became a model of complex material anticipation

Link Posted: 6/24/2018 4:28:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By whiskerz:
My dad is in there somewhere
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Originally Posted By whiskerz:
Originally Posted By Chokey:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgXTl2eXkAIMQ-D.jpg
My dad is in there somewhere
Very cool
Link Posted: 6/24/2018 4:37:46 PM EST
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Russia bore the brunt of German attention for a long time and at savage cost

Convoys bound for Murmansk delivered vital supplies to keep the Soviet War effort moving forward

Until effective ASW ships and techniques were developed, losses were staggering.

The equation was simple: if the U-Boats could sink merchantmen faster than we could build them, disaster would loom...

Here, PQ-18 under attack. Convoys were designated based on their direction outward bound or returning empty, hence PQ or QP

Link Posted: 6/24/2018 4:43:04 PM EST
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Outward bound Convoy PQ-17 suffered losses near 65%, some 25 of 35 ships sunk,
a disaster of the first order enough to bear closer study in a book of its own from the 1960's

Link Posted: 6/24/2018 4:56:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WWIIWMD:
Here colorized , Pagoda superstructure detail is quite clear

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab203/WW2Historian/Shooting%20Album/5449115133_a149a674d6_b_zpsoheamggd.jpg
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I understand distribution of weight.  
That doesn't stop me from thinking that ship should roll over from all that weight up high!
Link Posted: 6/24/2018 5:20:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:

I understand distribution of weight.  
That doesn't stop me from thinking that ship should roll over from all that weight up high!  
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They look stupid.
Link Posted: 6/24/2018 6:17:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
I understand distribution of weight.  
That doesn't stop me from thinking that ship should roll over from all that weight up high!  
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By WWIIWMD:
Here colorized , Pagoda superstructure detail is quite clear

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab203/WW2Historian/Shooting%20Album/5449115133_a149a674d6_b_zpsoheamggd.jpg
I understand distribution of weight.  
That doesn't stop me from thinking that ship should roll over from all that weight up high!  
They were quite seaworthy, center of gravity acceptable for weight distribution, the Japanese were long tenured skilled maritime designers and naval architects. Before the advent of Radar, the Pagoda style honored Japanese land building architecture and provided a height advantage for their high power optical bridge lookouts.
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
I understand distribution of weight.  
That doesn't stop me from thinking that ship should roll over from all that weight up high!  
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By WWIIWMD:
Here colorized , Pagoda superstructure detail is quite clear

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab203/WW2Historian/Shooting%20Album/5449115133_a149a674d6_b_zpsoheamggd.jpg
I understand distribution of weight.  
That doesn't stop me from thinking that ship should roll over from all that weight up high!  
Note how surprisingly shallow they were fore & aft.

Link Posted: 6/24/2018 6:34:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By WWIIWMD:

Note how surprisingly shallow they were fore & aft.

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab203/WW2Historian/New%20War%20Pics/7d28d19ab119a97397b7285f6916a78d_zpsg86pfpch.jpg
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there was a lot more below the waterline

Link Posted: 6/24/2018 6:35:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Squid1jz:
there was a lot more below the waterline

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Pagodemast_van_de_Fuso_in_1944.jpg
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Originally Posted By Squid1jz:
Originally Posted By WWIIWMD:

Note how surprisingly shallow they were fore & aft.

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab203/WW2Historian/New%20War%20Pics/7d28d19ab119a97397b7285f6916a78d_zpsg86pfpch.jpg
there was a lot more below the waterline

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Pagodemast_van_de_Fuso_in_1944.jpg
Funny, just saw that graphic on WickenOPedia
Link Posted: 6/24/2018 6:41:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Squid1jz:
there was a lot more below the waterline

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Pagodemast_van_de_Fuso_in_1944.jpg
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Originally Posted By Squid1jz:
Originally Posted By WWIIWMD:

Note how surprisingly shallow they were fore & aft.

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab203/WW2Historian/New%20War%20Pics/7d28d19ab119a97397b7285f6916a78d_zpsg86pfpch.jpg
there was a lot more below the waterline

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Pagodemast_van_de_Fuso_in_1944.jpg
Possibly of interest

Link Posted: 6/24/2018 8:29:04 PM EST
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Tagging to find later  and to also mention

There is a  19 page thread with lots of photos of WW2 WWII which is sadly now an archived thread,

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Name-some-obscure-or-cool-fact-about-WW2/5-2062258/?page=1
Link Posted: 6/25/2018 9:21:01 PM EST
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Did the high top rangefinder not sit on an armored tube?  (I can't remember what the tube is called.)  Was the conning tower armored?
Link Posted: 6/26/2018 6:43:00 PM EST
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Those guys intend to entrench
Link Posted: 6/26/2018 9:09:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By injun-ear:
Did the high top rangefinder not sit on an armored tube?  (I can't remember what the tube is called.)  Was the conning tower armored?  
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Originally Posted By WWIIWMD:
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Did the high top rangefinder not sit on an armored tube?  (I can't remember what the tube is called.)  Was the conning tower armored?  
Uncertain its intended to represent one particular ship, rather a study in separate location of battle information gathering/direction versus British designs unifying the roles.
Link Posted: 6/27/2018 6:19:31 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/27/2018 2:41:58 PM EST
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link to US Army historical review on German tank maintenance

https://history.army.mil/html/books/104/104-7/cmhPub_104-7.pdf

website of somebody building a PzKw38
- looks like still in planning stages
- some good WWII pics in a gallery

http://project38.net

Link Posted: 6/27/2018 2:53:36 PM EST
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Wow, looks like 4 very accurate shots to the lower glacis on the Stug!
Link Posted: 6/27/2018 5:22:34 PM EST
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Post WW II image of Syrian army.  Pzkw IV on left and T-34/85 on right.



Here's one after the Izzy's got through with it:

Link Posted: 6/28/2018 7:26:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:

Wow, looks like 4 very accurate shots to the lower glacis on the Stug!
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Maybe shot from point blank after the Germans abandoned it. Common practice by US tankers to claim a kill.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 9:05:00 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/28/2018 9:06:00 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Maybe shot from point blank after the Germans abandoned it. Common practice by US tankers to claim a kill.
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:

Wow, looks like 4 very accurate shots to the lower glacis on the Stug!
Maybe shot from point blank after the Germans abandoned it. Common practice by US tankers to claim a kill.
It was also common practice to pump a round or 2 into a vehicle that wasn't obviously destroyed. The Germans had a habit of sneaking back into immobilized vehicles that still had a good gun and shooting up supply convoys. Uncle Bob was given an M1 Carbine with a grenade launcher and a sack of grenades and told to shoot anything he saw on his supply runs that wasn't a burnt hulk.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 9:04:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dracster:

It was also common practice to pump a round or 2 into a vehicle that wasn't obviously destroyed. The Germans had a habit of sneaking back into immobilized vehicles that still had a good gun and shooting up supply convoys. Uncle Bob was given an M1 Carbine with a grenade launcher and a sack of grenades and told to shoot anything he saw on his supply runs that wasn't a burnt hulk.
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Good points.  Was wondering if it ended up as target practice once immobilizedid and abandoned.    I would have thought there would have been other damage on the tank though if they were making sure it was really done.   Of course we can't see the inside and perhaps some tehrmite was tossed in the breech.

From that angle whoever shot it would have been in the sights for return fire if it was what actually killed it.
Link Posted: 6/29/2018 6:42:37 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/30/2018 4:35:23 PM EST
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Is there a story with this pic?

Missing road wheels but the tracks appear intact.  
Impact on the side?

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Link Posted: 6/30/2018 5:01:59 PM EST
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Grenade from a launcher or small arty shell from above or a mine from below.

The wood on the side is damaged too, makeshift repair after the hit to save the tank and drive it away from the front?

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Red = mine blast, blue = shell/grenade impact
Link Posted: 6/30/2018 9:24:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Grenade from a launcher or small arty shell from above or a mine from below.

The wood on the side is damaged too, makeshift repair after the hit to save the tank and drive it away from the front?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/201300/10-592653-592746-592767.JPG

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From what I can find online googling "Sherman Clodhopper" was it was hit by a 47mm Japanese round on Iwo Jima.
Link Posted: 6/30/2018 11:14:49 PM EST
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Found this pic, maybe they used the parts for others tanks.Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 7/1/2018 12:08:30 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Found this pic, maybe they used the parts for others tanks.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/201300/oAkmg37-593248.JPG
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Bet you are right about cannibalizing parts.  Looks like it is sitting in the same spot in both pictures.
Link Posted: 7/1/2018 7:11:21 AM EST
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Naval airpower!

















Opski.  This one crashed without its crew in Daly City, CA. Crew was never found.  May they RIP.

(see next post)
Link Posted: 7/1/2018 7:16:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Bet you are right about cannibalizing parts.  Looks like it is sitting in the same spot in both pictures.
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:
Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Found this pic, maybe they used the parts for others tanks.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/201300/oAkmg37-593248.JPG
Bet you are right about cannibalizing parts.  Looks like it is sitting in the same spot in both pictures.
One of the advantages of the Sherman (unlike German tanks) is the suspension is exterior to the hull (not built into it.)

Thus a damaged tank could have a bogie unit replaced by unbolting the old damaged unit & bolt in a replacement, to get back into the fight.

You can see the difference in the center road wheels, so I'd guess that is exactly what they did to get it up and running again.
Link Posted: 7/1/2018 10:47:51 AM EST
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Rommel thought the Americans rather clever by making so many parts interchangeable.


I think the officer with the peaked cap in the background (and to Rommel's right) is von Mellenthin.
Link Posted: 7/1/2018 1:02:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Rommel thought the Americans rather clever by making so many parts interchangeable.
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2012/10/27/20/rommel-gt.jpg

I think the officer with the peaked cap in the background (and to Rommel's right) is von Mellenthin.
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Ultimately that may have helped tipped the balance in favor of the Allies.  The German armor technology was fantastic, but was difficult to produce and maintain in the field.  The leaved road wheels on the Panther and Tiger were good examples of this.

A member of our church was a tank mechanic during the Battle of the Bulge and mentioned that right before the initial push by the Nazi's, that he was near the front doing an engine swap on a Sherman.  Think about that for a minute...an engine on a Sherman could be changed on or at the front lines without having to be in a major repair depot.
Link Posted: 7/1/2018 1:42:33 PM EST
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But the Germans learned from this, a Leopard 2 engine can be replaced in less than 10 minutes.

Link Posted: 7/1/2018 2:41:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 4v50:
Rommel thought the Americans rather clever by making so many parts interchangeable.
https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2012/10/27/20/rommel-gt.jpg

I think the officer with the peaked cap in the background (and to Rommel's right) is von Mellenthin
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And you would be correct I think.
Link Posted: 7/2/2018 3:43:39 PM EST
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Japanese troops use captured British Indian Army soldiers for target practice at Singapore, 1942.
Link Posted: 7/2/2018 5:07:08 PM EST
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Shopped?

How the fuck this StuG got there without leaving a track in the wheat?
Link Posted: 7/2/2018 5:22:39 PM EST
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Workhorse of the Kreigsmarine - the minesweeper.  Besides sweeping mines, they did escort duty and in particular, escorting U-boats back to base safely.


Link Posted: 7/3/2018 1:00:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Is there a story with this pic?

Missing road wheels but the tracks appear intact.  
Impact on the side?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/119347/10-592653-592746.JPG
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The mesh cage on the underside of the driver and asst driver is also interesting.   I'm guessing to keep grenades from being dropped through the viewing prism openings, but they would still kill the crew, or several of them
Link Posted: 7/3/2018 4:18:55 PM EST
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Shopped?

How the fuck this StuG got there without leaving a track in the wheat?
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There are tracks through the field behind it just over the top of the hull.
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