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Originally Posted By Gopher:
A meeting of all the 8th Air Force fighter groups CO's at Bottisham Cambridgeshire England in late 1944. what are the last three aircraft on the first row? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/8th_fighter_co_s_jpg-946257.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
A meeting of all the 8th Air Force fighter groups CO's at Bottisham Cambridgeshire England in late 1944. what are the last three aircraft on the first row? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/8th_fighter_co_s_jpg-946257.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
A meeting of all the 8th Air Force fighter groups CO's at Bottisham Cambridgeshire England in late 1944. what are the last three aircraft on the first row? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/8th_fighter_co_s_jpg-946257.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By ACDer:
I'm guessing the last one is a T-6. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Most squadrons had at least one T-6 for courier work and this type of thing. CO's plane may have been in maintenance or was needed for a max effort mission that day. Maybe it's just camera angle but the noses of the other two P-47s look different than the one in the front. Different models perhaps?
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Originally Posted By Son_of_Sven:
Rau, Meyer, Gabreski pilots of the first three (two P51D and a P47D)? Last three aircraft furthest from the camera appear to be two P47D's and a different aircraft I can't make out. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Son_of_Sven:
Originally Posted By Gopher:
A meeting of all the 8th Air Force fighter groups CO's at Bottisham Cambridgeshire England in late 1944. what are the last three aircraft on the first row? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/8th_fighter_co_s_jpg-946257.JPG PE - 352nd FG - Col James Mayden LM - 56th FG - Col David Schilling (note the rocket pod under the wing.) The only 8th group that didn't transition to P-51s. CL - 55th FG - Col George Crowell (the aircraft is assigned to LtCol John Mcginn) PI - 356th FG - Col Phillip Tukey (This group switched to P-51s in Nov 44, so this dates the photo prior to that.) The next P-47 is 353rd FG. The group commander, LtCol Glenn Duncan, was shot down in July 44 so this is, most likely, his replacement. This group transitioned to P-51s in Oct 44 The P-47 in the back row is 78th FG, Col Frederic Gray. This group transitioned to P-51s in Dec 44. The P-38 could be 479th FG. Col Hub Zemke took command in Aug 44 and the group transition to P-51s in Sept 44. Robin Olds was also in the group. |
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
I thought the same after looking at it longer. Squadron hack makes sense. The next two look like long nose P-47s compared to the 47 in the foreground. They just look odd. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
Doesn't this look like fun? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/F-5-casevac-1_jpg-946920.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/F-5-casevac-3_jpg-946918.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
A meeting of all the 8th Air Force fighter groups CO's at Bottisham Cambridgeshire England in late 1944. what are the last three aircraft on the first row? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/8th_fighter_co_s_jpg-946257.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
MC - 20th FG - Col Harold Rau PE - 352nd FG - Col James Mayden LM - 56th FG - Col David Schilling (note the rocket pod under the wing.) The only 8th group that didn't transition to P-51s. CL - 55th FG - Col George Crowell (the aircraft is assigned to LtCol John Mcginn) PI - 356th FG - Col Phillip Tukey (This group switched to P-51s in Nov 44, so this dates the photo prior to that.) The next P-47 is 353rd FG. The group commander, LtCol Glenn Duncan, was shot down in July 44 so this is, most likely, his replacement. This group transitioned to P-51s in Oct 44 The P-47 in the back row is 78th FG, Col Frederic Gray. This group transitioned to P-51s in Dec 44. The P-38 could be 479th FG. Col Hub Zemke took command in Aug 44 and the group transition to P-51s in Sept 44. Robin Olds was also in the group. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dracster:
Originally Posted By Son_of_Sven:
Originally Posted By Gopher:
A meeting of all the 8th Air Force fighter groups CO's at Bottisham Cambridgeshire England in late 1944. what are the last three aircraft on the first row? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/8th_fighter_co_s_jpg-946257.JPG PE - 352nd FG - Col James Mayden LM - 56th FG - Col David Schilling (note the rocket pod under the wing.) The only 8th group that didn't transition to P-51s. CL - 55th FG - Col George Crowell (the aircraft is assigned to LtCol John Mcginn) PI - 356th FG - Col Phillip Tukey (This group switched to P-51s in Nov 44, so this dates the photo prior to that.) The next P-47 is 353rd FG. The group commander, LtCol Glenn Duncan, was shot down in July 44 so this is, most likely, his replacement. This group transitioned to P-51s in Oct 44 The P-47 in the back row is 78th FG, Col Frederic Gray. This group transitioned to P-51s in Dec 44. The P-38 could be 479th FG. Col Hub Zemke took command in Aug 44 and the group transition to P-51s in Sept 44. Robin Olds was also in the group. 353rd's 355th's |
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
MC - 20th FG - Col Harold Rau PE - 352nd FG - Col James Mayden LM - 56th FG - Col David Schilling (note the rocket pod under the wing.) The only 8th group that didn't transition to P-51s. CL - 55th FG - Col George Crowell (the aircraft is assigned to LtCol John Mcginn) PI - 356th FG - Col Phillip Tukey (This group switched to P-51s in Nov 44, so this dates the photo prior to that.) The next P-47 is 353rd FG. The group commander, LtCol Glenn Duncan, was shot down in July 44 so this is, most likely, his replacement. This group transitioned to P-51s in Oct 44 The P-47 in the back row is 78th FG, Col Frederic Gray. This group transitioned to P-51s in Dec 44. The P-38 could be 479th FG. Col Hub Zemke took command in Aug 44 and the group transition to P-51s in Sept 44. Robin Olds was also in the group. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dracster:
Originally Posted By Son_of_Sven:
Originally Posted By Gopher:
A meeting of all the 8th Air Force fighter groups CO's at Bottisham Cambridgeshire England in late 1944. what are the last three aircraft on the first row? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/8th_fighter_co_s_jpg-946257.JPG PE - 352nd FG - Col James Mayden LM - 56th FG - Col David Schilling (note the rocket pod under the wing.) The only 8th group that didn't transition to P-51s. CL - 55th FG - Col George Crowell (the aircraft is assigned to LtCol John Mcginn) PI - 356th FG - Col Phillip Tukey (This group switched to P-51s in Nov 44, so this dates the photo prior to that.) The next P-47 is 353rd FG. The group commander, LtCol Glenn Duncan, was shot down in July 44 so this is, most likely, his replacement. This group transitioned to P-51s in Oct 44 The P-47 in the back row is 78th FG, Col Frederic Gray. This group transitioned to P-51s in Dec 44. The P-38 could be 479th FG. Col Hub Zemke took command in Aug 44 and the group transition to P-51s in Sept 44. Robin Olds was also in the group. 353rd's 355th's |
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My uncle Lewis @ 1942, he had joined the RCAF before the US entered. After flight school in Canada he was sent to England and flew Beaufighters over Germany as a Sergeant pilot. After Pearl Harbor he and all the other Americans were transferred to the USAAF. He finally ended up flying B-24s. On August 1 1943 his last mission was the raid on the oil fields in Rumania, Operation Tidal Wave. You can make out the British wings on his right chest, he’s buried in the Florence American Cemetery in Florence, Italy. |
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LtCol Elwyn Righetti, CO of 55th FG, with his P51D "Katydid". LtCol Righetti's P-51 was hit by flak while strafing an airfield near Riesa, Germany on April 17th, 1945. It was the groups 2nd to last mission of the war and his 30th birthday. He crash-landed his plane and was heard to say on the radio. "I'm fine. I think I may have broken my nose but otherwise, I'm okay. Let the family know I'm okay. It's been swell working with you gang. I'll see you in a couple weeks when this is all over.". He was never heard from again and no trace of him has been found. He was credited with 7.5 aerial kills, 2 probables and 27 ground kills. he was the leading 8th AF "ground" ace of the war.
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Originally Posted By Dave15:
PBY https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/71410/PB4Y-2_Privateer_VP-23_in_flight_1__jpg-819628.JPG My Dad, waist gunner on a PBY, VPB 117 ( and thanks to Arfcom members for cleaning up pic) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/71410/OFUG9Xs_jpg-819631.JPG Their scoreboard. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/71410/vp117_score_10jun99_2__jpg-819632.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
MC - 20th FG - Col Harold Rau PE - 352nd FG - Col James Mayden LM - 56th FG - Col David Schilling (note the rocket pod under the wing.) The only 8th group that didn't transition to P-51s. CL - 55th FG - Col George Crowell (the aircraft is assigned to LtCol John Mcginn) PI - 356th FG - Col Phillip Tukey (This group switched to P-51s in Nov 44, so this dates the photo prior to that.) The next P-47 is 353rd FG. The group commander, LtCol Glenn Duncan, was shot down in July 44 so this is, most likely, his replacement. This group transitioned to P-51s in Oct 44 The P-47 in the back row is 78th FG, Col Frederic Gray. This group transitioned to P-51s in Dec 44. The P-38 could be 479th FG. Col Hub Zemke took command in Aug 44 and the group transition to P-51s in Sept 44. Robin Olds was also in the group. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dracster:
Originally Posted By Son_of_Sven:
Originally Posted By Gopher:
A meeting of all the 8th Air Force fighter groups CO's at Bottisham Cambridgeshire England in late 1944. what are the last three aircraft on the first row? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/8th_fighter_co_s_jpg-946257.JPG PE - 352nd FG - Col James Mayden LM - 56th FG - Col David Schilling (note the rocket pod under the wing.) The only 8th group that didn't transition to P-51s. CL - 55th FG - Col George Crowell (the aircraft is assigned to LtCol John Mcginn) PI - 356th FG - Col Phillip Tukey (This group switched to P-51s in Nov 44, so this dates the photo prior to that.) The next P-47 is 353rd FG. The group commander, LtCol Glenn Duncan, was shot down in July 44 so this is, most likely, his replacement. This group transitioned to P-51s in Oct 44 The P-47 in the back row is 78th FG, Col Frederic Gray. This group transitioned to P-51s in Dec 44. The P-38 could be 479th FG. Col Hub Zemke took command in Aug 44 and the group transition to P-51s in Sept 44. Robin Olds was also in the group. |
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Originally Posted By Dracster:
LtCol Elwyn Righetti, CO of 55th FG, with his P51D "Katydid". LtCol Righetti's P-51 was hit by flak while strafing an airfield near Riesa, Germany on April 17th, 1945. It was the groups 2nd to last mission of the war and his 30th birthday. He crash-landed his plane and was heard to say on the radio. "I'm fine. I think I may have broken my nose but otherwise, I'm okay. Let the family know I'm okay. It's been swell working with you gang. I'll see you in a couple weeks when this is all over.". He was never heard from again and no trace of him has been found. He was credited with 7.5 aerial kills, 2 probables and 27 ground kills. he was the leading 8th AF "ground" ace of the war. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/48680/Righetti1_jpg-948014.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By TimJ:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2604/media-377446-948918.jpg David Schilling, 56th Fighter Group. His grandson, my stepbrother, runs gun shop in NC. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By LibertyShip:
I guess the 361st isn't represented because they were domiciled there at Bottisham. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LibertyShip:
Originally Posted By Dracster:
Originally Posted By Son_of_Sven:
Originally Posted By Gopher:
A meeting of all the 8th Air Force fighter groups CO's at Bottisham Cambridgeshire England in late 1944. what are the last three aircraft on the first row? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/8th_fighter_co_s_jpg-946257.JPG PE - 352nd FG - Col James Mayden LM - 56th FG - Col David Schilling (note the rocket pod under the wing.) The only 8th group that didn't transition to P-51s. CL - 55th FG - Col George Crowell (the aircraft is assigned to LtCol John Mcginn) PI - 356th FG - Col Phillip Tukey (This group switched to P-51s in Nov 44, so this dates the photo prior to that.) The next P-47 is 353rd FG. The group commander, LtCol Glenn Duncan, was shot down in July 44 so this is, most likely, his replacement. This group transitioned to P-51s in Oct 44 The P-47 in the back row is 78th FG, Col Frederic Gray. This group transitioned to P-51s in Dec 44. The P-38 could be 479th FG. Col Hub Zemke took command in Aug 44 and the group transition to P-51s in Sept 44. Robin Olds was also in the group. |
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Field resupply, 500th bomb group, Isley Field, Saipan. Check out that belt of .50 cal.
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
Field resupply, 500th bomb group, Isley Field, Saipan. Check out that belt of .50 cal. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1670/arming_a_b-29_jpg-957051.JPG View Quote |
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I had to know more. This is what I found:
32nd Infantry Regiment soldiers looking at grave markers at Little Falls Cemetery. The cemetery was created for those killed in combat during the Battle of Attu. Attu, Aleutian Islands/Alaska. Circa June 1943 |
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Originally Posted By TimJ:
Piece of a Focke Wolfe and how we got it........ http://varnumcontinentals.org/2017/12/featured-exhibit-tail-fin-world-war-ii-luftwaffe-focke-wulf-fighter-plane/tail-fin-from-a-focke-wulf-fw-190/ View Quote ... no freeloading... |
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Originally Posted By TimJ:
Piece of a Focke Wolfe and how we got it........ http://varnumcontinentals.org/2017/12/featured-exhibit-tail-fin-world-war-ii-luftwaffe-focke-wulf-fighter-plane/tail-fin-from-a-focke-wulf-fw-190/ View Quote |
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If you come down to RI hmu, I'll give you the tour.....
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Originally Posted By patsue: A dear friend survived the mission that B24 pic was taken from. Ploesti raid. He was a tail gunner. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By birdbarian: That's a little large to stick in your duffle bag. Wonder how hard it was to ship stuff like that home. I worked in supply, so I know there are ways. ... no freeloading... https://www.worldhistory.biz/uploads/posts/2015-08/1439395513_3306655_1.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/2A159058-EB3A-475E-9C7D-17E4E1CE1F60_jpeg-967017.JPG The Prinz Eugen in Boston harbor after the war. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Dog1:
That's from Band of Brothers View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Dog1:
Originally Posted By birdbarian: That's a little large to stick in your duffle bag. Wonder how hard it was to ship stuff like that home. I worked in supply, so I know there are ways. ... no freeloading... https://www.worldhistory.biz/uploads/posts/2015-08/1439395513_3306655_1.jpg |
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Is that 2nd one a real pic or artist's rendering?
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Rendering I think
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Originally Posted By Chokey:
77th Anniversary of the Battle of Midway B-17's bombing the Japanese carriers https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8PWPshU0AAEgRX.jpg dive bombers attacked and hit Akagi, Kaga, and Soryu https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8P0ciiW4AA_Ppo.jpg?format=jpg&name=orig View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Firefinder37:
In the foreground is U.S. sniper Pfc. Edward J. Foley, Co 'G', 143rd Infantry, 36th Infantry Division cleaning his Springfield 1903A4 rifle, Near Velletri, Lazio, Italy. 29 May 1944.Bill Gorman, a veteran who served with Foley stated "Foley soon realized being a sniper was not a good career" It brought too much fire to him. Gorman also stated that "the 5 shot 1903A4 bolt sniper rifle - with a 4 power scope was a waste" Foley swapped it for an M1 Garand and took the helmet camo off. On the 18th of May the 143rd Regiment sailed from the port of Pozzuoli near Naples and closed in at the Anzio beach head on the following day. On the morning of May 23d, the Regiment jumped off in an attack to break out of the beach head and entered the line on the road to Rome near the town of Velletri. The Division, in a daring maneuver, sent the 142d Infantry and the 143 Infantry from the left flank squarely across the Division front under cover of darkness and the two regiments infiltrated to the rear of Velletri, up a 2,000-foot peak before the Germans realized what had happened. With the capture of the hills in rear of Velletri, the town folded and the race to Rome was on. Charging through the Alban Hills, the regiment arrived in the outskirts of Rome about 4 p.m. on the afternoon of June 4th, 1944. (Nb: Foley came from 10 Odile St., Methuen, Massachusetts. He appears to be wearing Corcoran Jump boots)(Source - US Army Signal Corps)(Colourised by Benjamin Thomas from Australia) https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15800604_1089294941200297_9086711288330650003_o.jpg?oh=1f8969bbd5e2abc63302178f43b29a45&oe=58F57EA3 View Quote |
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