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Link Posted: 4/30/2020 10:10:40 PM EST
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Link Posted: 5/1/2020 7:28:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Gopher:


That may be the first shark mouth I have ever seen on a B-17. 



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I have never seen a shark mouth on a B-17 before
Link Posted: 5/1/2020 7:44:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Dog1:



That's a lot of gear to be playing with.
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Originally Posted By Dog1:



That's a lot of gear to be playing with.


Scrap collecting I guess.

Link Posted: 5/1/2020 7:50:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:


Modified field kitchen warming the engines?
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:


Modified field kitchen warming the engines?


@Mal_means_bad


Motorenanwärmer 38 auf Anhänger A1 (Engine heater 38 on trailer A1), could heat three plane engines simultaneous from -10°C to +20°C in 30 minutes and could be used for tent or hangar heating too.

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Link Posted: 5/1/2020 12:57:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Dracster:

She just oozes batshit crazy.
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Originally Posted By Dracster:

She just oozes batshit crazy.


Had to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goebbels_children

I did not know this though.
Goebbles made his wife's first husband give up rights to her son. Interesting life he lived postwar.
Harald Quandt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Quandt
Harald Quandt (1 November 1921 – 22 September 1967) was a German industrialist, the son of industrialist Günther Quandt and Magda Behrend Rietschel. His parents divorced and his mother was later married to Joseph Goebbels. After World War II, Quandt and his older half-brother Herbert Quandt ran the industrial empire that was left to them by their father and that continues today, the family owning a stake in Germany's luxury car manufacturer BMW.

After his death, his kids inherited a fortune.
Harald Quandt's five daughters inherited about 1.5 billion deutsche marks ($760 million, €585 million) and later increased their wealth through the Harald Quandt Holding GmbH, a German-based family investment company and trust named after their father.[3] Today, they share a fortune worth at least $6 billion.
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The children, born between 1932 and 1940, were murdered by their parents in Berlin on 1 May 1945, the day both parents committed suicide.
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Link Posted: 5/1/2020 1:54:16 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:


@Mal_means_bad


Motorenanwrmer 38 auf Anhnger A1 (Engine heater 38 on trailer A1), could heat three plane engines simultaneous from -10C to +20C in 30 minutes and could be used for tent or hangar heating too.

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Originally Posted By 4xGM300m:
Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:


Modified field kitchen warming the engines?


@Mal_means_bad


Motorenanwrmer 38 auf Anhnger A1 (Engine heater 38 on trailer A1), could heat three plane engines simultaneous from -10C to +20C in 30 minutes and could be used for tent or hangar heating too.

Thank you.  They actually make model kits of this for airfield dioramas.


Link Posted: 5/2/2020 8:45:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


Had to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goebbels_children

I did not know this though.
Goebbles made his wife's first husband give up rights to her son. Interesting life he lived postwar.
Harald Quandt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Quandt

After his death, his kids inherited a fortune.
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Yeah that woman was off her proverbial rocker
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Japanese Type 97 tank partially sheltered in the ground to serve as a pillbox on Iwo Jima:


We won and kicked their azz


and captured their gun


and we suffered casualties:

Black Marines bringing wounded man to aid station.  I read one account where one Marine felt very good when a Black Marine carrying his stretcher assured him, "You're going to be O.K. now."
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Close up of the scraps of the German fighter 'Focke-Wulf' among the ruins in a meadow in Tiergarten park, behind the Reichstag. Berlin, May 1945. (Photo by Mondadori Portfolio via Getty Images)
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17th January 1943: The streets of Stalingrad with apparently no buildings left standing after the devastating Russian attack on the encamped German army. (Photo by Keystone/Getty Images)
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July 1942: A Soviet pilot waits in the cockpit as his warplane is prepared for flight. (Photo by Hulton Archive/Getty Images)
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Russian soldiers target the Germans from within an abandoned building during the Battle of Stalingrad, World War II, circa 1942. The soldier in motion on the left was killed before he reached the window. (Photo by Archive Photos/Getty Images)
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circa 1942: Four German dive-bombers of the Ju.87 type take off against the Russians in the Caucasus area. The Luftwaffe provided full support and cooperation for the Nazi advance in the Caucasus. (Photo by Keystone/Getty Images)
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An Italian Macchi 200 fighter covered with a sheet in a base in the area between the river Dnieper and the Seversky Donets. Ukraine, April 1942 (Photo by Mondadori Portfolio via Getty Images)
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World war 2, soviet air force mikoyan-gurevich mig-3 (i-18) fighters in winter camouflage during the defense of moscow, 1942. (Photo by: Sovfoto/UIG via Getty Images
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1942: Thor, a new type of heavy mortar used for the first time by the Germans during the siege of Sebastopol. (Photo by Keystone/Getty Images)
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What engine is this? Looks both turbo and super charged and obviously German... Very interesting.
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Interesting paint scheme and rank/staff markings on the 109.

ETA: It's an F2 variant flown by Hauptmann Hans von Hahn


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Originally Posted By Clockwork138:

Interesting paint scheme and rank/staff markings on the 109.

ETA: It's an F2 variant flown by Hauptmann Hans von Hahn
https://www.flying-tigers.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/h-v-h-1.jpg

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I posted this one a page ago? I thought I put on the original post whose plane it was, but I post a lot
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Link Posted: 5/2/2020 8:31:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By E4W:


What engine is this? Looks both turbo and super charged and obviously German... Very interesting.
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Originally Posted By E4W:


What engine is this? Looks both turbo and super charged and obviously German... Very interesting.



Definitely some version of a DB-605
Link Posted: 5/2/2020 8:57:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By E4W:


What engine is this? Looks both turbo and super charged and obviously German... Very interesting.
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DB 621 ?
Link Posted: 5/2/2020 9:09:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


DB 621 ?
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Could be.  So far I'm finding very little on the interwebs for more info.  Pretty interesting though with the turbo feeding the supercharger.
Link Posted: 5/2/2020 11:58:10 PM EST
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Guys what we have here is the DB 628 which only a few were made and the concept was abandoned in March of ‘44. A Google image search turns up very little and an engine which looks a bit different. That being said, I’m willing to trust the experts on a FB page I follow specifically for DB engines.There is some debate wether is was a DB 603 or 605 based engine. I’m not expert so I’ll let a better man argue those points.

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https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/daimler-benz-db-628.28270/

Edit: the engine mounts are different. Pretty interesting.
Link Posted: 5/3/2020 8:56:43 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
Guys what we have here is the DB 628 which only a few were made and the concept was abandoned in March of ‘44. A Google image search turns up very little and an engine which looks a bit different. That being said, I’m willing to trust the experts on a FB page I follow specifically for DB engines.There is some debate wether is was a DB 603 or 605 based engine. I’m not expert so I’ll let a better man argue those points. 

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Interesting...the post below shows the DB-628 being a twin super charged engine with the first stage driving concentric to the crank.  The picture in question has an exhaust driven turbocharger for the first stage.   All I'm finding on the 621 is that it had both a turbo and super charger.   I wonder if there is some nomenclature discrepancies due to the period and that much of what is left is probably captured intel vs. company records?   Very interesting none the less!
Link Posted: 5/3/2020 11:20:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:



Interesting...the post below shows the DB-628 being a twin super charged engine with the first stage driving concentric to the crank.  The picture in question has an exhaust driven turbocharger for the first stage.   All I'm finding on the 621 is that it had both a turbo and super charger.   I wonder if there is some nomenclature discrepancies due to the period and that much of what is left is probably captured intel vs. company records?   Very interesting none the less!
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Originally Posted By jblomenberg16:



Interesting...the post below shows the DB-628 being a twin super charged engine with the first stage driving concentric to the crank.  The picture in question has an exhaust driven turbocharger for the first stage.   All I'm finding on the 621 is that it had both a turbo and super charger.   I wonder if there is some nomenclature discrepancies due to the period and that much of what is left is probably captured intel vs. company records?   Very interesting none the less!


What plane was it meant for? If it was part of a "V" series I can probably find an example.

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The engine mounting arms, remind me of He-111 style ones. Maybe was tested in FW190H/D/Ta-15*, but the mounting connections spacing seem Me-109 type, and it would be wore likely tested/used in the 109 high altitutde development/testing program.


Not the Me-109K it was tested with the DB 605 L. The mounts do not look right to me. Would make more sense for the Ta-152.
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Link Posted: 5/3/2020 11:40:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


What plane was it meant for? If it was part of a "V" series I can probably find an example.

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Not the Me-109K it was tested with the DB 605 L. The mounts do not look right to me. Would make more sense for the Ta-152.
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It would make sense for it to have been a prototype for high altitude aircraft, so that very much could be one of the candidate.   Seems like the Jumo was the power plant of choice at that point in the war so maybe DB was trying to compete, and or the Reich was looking for alternatives for supply continuity.
Link Posted: 5/3/2020 11:42:45 AM EST
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Guys, my phone won’t let me copy and paste the replies from where I stole the first pic from, so here’s a screen shot. Hopefully this helps.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/8DE26254-FF23-44A1-86B5-7246239AE68B_png-1399001.JPG
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Way to enhance the enthusiasm to find it now

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Originally Posted By Colt_sporter:
Guys, my phone won’t let me copy and paste the replies from where I stole the first pic from, so here’s a screen shot. Hopefully this helps.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/24640/8DE26254-FF23-44A1-86B5-7246239AE68B_png-1399001.JPG
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Good stuff, thanks!

In one of my Grandpa's pictures from LeHarve you can see this sunken ship, which pre-dates the war.



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The ship is now of course gone, but here is the same spot.

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That popped up on a Reddit page and I had never seen any pictures of it before. What an odd bird.
Link Posted: 5/3/2020 12:33:12 PM EST
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That popped up on a Reddit page and I had never seen any pictures of it before. What an odd bird.
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That popped up on a Reddit page and I had never seen any pictures of it before. What an odd bird.



Revell made a 1/48 scale model of that. Years ago I don't know if it's still in production or not
Link Posted: 5/3/2020 3:57:08 PM EST
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That popped up on a Reddit page and I had never seen any pictures of it before. What an odd bird.
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During that time they made some oddballs. The advancements made are astounding. Gotha bombers in WW1, and some 30 years later "lets put two He-111's together, and see how this works" .
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


During that time they made some oddballs. The advancements made are astounding. Gotha bombers in WW1, and some 30 years later "lets put two He-111's together, and see how this works" .
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They certainly had some weird ideas during the war that is no doubt
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They certainly had some weird ideas during the war that is no doubt
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The F-82 Twin Mustang was prototyped during WWII and worked well enough that a handful saw action in Korea.




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I’ve got a shit load of photos marked “classified” “not for public” that my deceased grandfather “stole” during an assignment.

Will scanning these hurt the originals?

Edit to add: silver and bronze star recepient. Supposedly took these from a staff assignment late in the war.
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I’ve got a whole book of photos taken from bomb bays. A bunch have bombs still falling and close up.

Tried to post a bunch but a bunch didn’t load from phone.

Link Posted: 5/3/2020 7:13:51 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 13starsinax:


The top photo in this set-I think is the marking of the bomb drop signaling to the stream to drop their payload.

If you have more pictures from the bomb bay that would be interesting. Thanks for posting.
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I have an entire book. If I get a free day I’ll try to scan them instead of iPhone photo them.

The majority have some form of classified stamped on the back. Others have location handwritten back or front.

Give me a few weeks and I’ll scan them in and post from a computer.

At some point I plan to donate these to a museum that can preserve them.
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I have an entire book. If I get a free day I’ll try to scan them instead of iPhone photo them. 

The majority have some form of classified stamped on the back. Others have location handwritten back or front. 

Give me a few weeks and I’ll scan them in and post from a computer.

At some point I plan to donate these to a museum that can preserve them.
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Very cool. I think there is a member her that works at a museum. Hopefully he reads this.
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In 1943 the third G-series pre-production aircraft was modified to test a butterfly tail.
There was a small increase in top speed but at low speeds stability was a problem.
No further tests were made.
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