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Posted: 11/11/2017 7:43:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK:
Has anyone found a source of parts for these predator style units? |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 7:49:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK:
Has anyone found a source of parts for these predator style units? WEN parts |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 8:00:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gman82001:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/144765/8295A8C0-55F9-4558-BDAE-59E093F19A30-357651.JPGJust an FYI for Black Friday guys I jumped on this last year and made a killing using some points and then a rebate through active junky at the time. I’m going to grab me my 2nd one this year and the piece to link them together. |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 8:11:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWho makes the 3500 Predator.
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Posted: 11/12/2017 12:25:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK:
Who makes the 3500 Predator. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK:
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Posted: 11/12/2017 1:05:29 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsuman47:
Says "in store only". How do you use AJ in-store? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mitsuman47:
Originally Posted By gman82001:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/144765/8295A8C0-55F9-4558-BDAE-59E093F19A30-357651.JPGJust an FYI for Black Friday guys I jumped on this last year and made a killing using some points and then a rebate through active junky at the time. I’m going to grab me my 2nd one this year and the piece to link them together. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 6:06:51 PM EDT
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This is an awesome thread. You've got me shopping now.
I will likely get an electrician to connect a plug next to the breaker panel with some sort of mechanical switch. I plan to start with a 2,000W generator, but may consider upgrading into a larger one to feed 240V. Is there a setup that can handle either a small or large generator, or should the generator drive how I connect? I'm trying to avoid rework in the future. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 6:07:33 PM EDT
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I think this is the manufacturer
http://www.loncinindustries.com/en/engine/ProductDetail.aspx?catid=8-15-17-44-2146789930#proFlag |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 6:13:25 PM EDT
[#9]
The Pulsar branded 2000W generator at Newegg is up to $529.99 now.
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Posted: 11/13/2017 6:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
The Pulsar branded 2000W generator at Newegg is up to $529.99 now. 
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Posted: 11/13/2017 7:28:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By abnk:
This is an awesome thread. You've got me shopping now.
I will likely get an electrician to connect a plug next to the breaker panel with some sort of mechanical switch. I plan to start with a 2,000W generator, but may consider upgrading into a larger one to feed 240V. Is there a setup that can handle either a small or large generator, or should the generator drive how I connect? I'm trying to avoid rework in the future. I use a 50A 240V inlet so I can upgrade to a 12KW generator in the future if I want to run my heat pump. You can run a lot on a 1600W 120V generator. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 8:38:31 PM EDT
[#12]
I love this thread. Did my 8 hour oil change on my new Predator 3500w inverter
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Posted: 11/13/2017 9:16:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: abnk]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
A 30A 240V inlet is pretty standard. That takes you up to a 7200W fairly inexpensively. You can feed it less with no problems. I use a 50A 240V inlet so I can upgrade to a 12KW generator in the future if I want to run my heat pump. You can run a lot on a 1600W 120V generator. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By abnk:
This is an awesome thread. You've got me shopping now.
I will likely get an electrician to connect a plug next to the breaker panel with some sort of mechanical switch. I plan to start with a 2,000W generator, but may consider upgrading into a larger one to feed 240V. Is there a setup that can handle either a small or large generator, or should the generator drive how I connect? I'm trying to avoid rework in the future. I use a 50A 240V inlet so I can upgrade to a 12KW generator in the future if I want to run my heat pump. You can run a lot on a 1600W 120V generator. Is it realistic to expect a 1,600-1700W inverter generator to feed 1,840W for a few seconds (I don't know what the startup load would be)? It would normally be loaded 1,150W or significantly less when the refrigerator is not running. |
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Posted: 11/13/2017 10:04:32 PM EDT
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Up to 51 hours on the predator 3500. Will run though the night powering my travel trailer with plenty of gas in the tank to spare.
I did change the spark plug to a champion part due to people having issues with the original plug. |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 1:02:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
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Posted: 11/14/2017 1:04:40 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Power Boss 2KW Inverter $379.00 https://www.fleetfarm.com/detail/powerboss-2000-watt-gasoline-powered-recoil-start-inverter/0000000279495?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIu__c6MS-1wIVRWV-Ch0i2gaDEAQYASABEgJhrPD_BwE |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 1:16:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By abnk:
Thank you. I really don't see needing to run more than two major appliances at one time: refrigerator at 1,150W and sump pump at 690W; total 1,840W. I don't suspect it's likely that they will startup simultaneously. On extremely wet days, the pump kicks in for a few seconds every 15-30 minutes. On normal rainy days, maybe every couple to a few hours. Is it realistic to expect a 1,600-1700W inverter generator to feed 1,840W for a few seconds (I don't know what the startup load would be)? It would normally be loaded 1,150W or significantly less when the refrigerator is not running. I don't recall the specific surge time limits, but it is several seconds (if not closer to 20-30 seconds). The key is LED lighting. Last weekend I ran several rooms of lights/lamps, my internet, router, LAN switches, DirectTV system and DVR, 65" LED TV, alarm system, phone chargers, Septic Pump (on standby), Septic Alarm (on standby), refrigerator, electric blanket and 2 electric recliners and several UPSs (charging) on a single Honda EU2000i in eco mode and it wasn't throttled fully up. I would probably have had to parallel in the second one to run the microwave at the same time. The larger 3500W inverter generators are a great middle ground, with the ability to parallel in a second one, if portability isn't needed (which is why I went with the 2KW). |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 1:18:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK:
I do not see any parallel jacks. If capable, then you should be able to parallel with a suicide cord. But may not be capable. Stumbled on that looking at the Quip All which is now $749 (I should have bought two at $329). |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 1:26:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
[#19]
Harbor Freight 3500 $659 until 1/17/2018
code 19749348 (works) 
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Posted: 11/14/2017 2:32:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By charlesb_la:
I think this is the manufacturer http://www.loncinindustries.com/en/engine/ProductDetail.aspx?catid=8-15-17-44-2146789930#proFlag |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 2:38:50 PM EDT
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I have found my Champion 2K runs smoother with a new NGK spark plug vs the factory plug.
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Posted: 11/14/2017 3:47:35 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lowcountry:
That is exactly the same as the 3500 Preadtor. All the covers, wheels, lcd, etc. are the same. Thanks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lowcountry:
Originally Posted By charlesb_la:
I think this is the manufacturer http://www.loncinindustries.com/en/engine/ProductDetail.aspx?catid=8-15-17-44-2146789930#proFlag |
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Posted: 11/14/2017 6:25:46 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK:
Looks like the 2kw is similar too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK:
Originally Posted By lowcountry:
Originally Posted By charlesb_la:
I think this is the manufacturer http://www.loncinindustries.com/en/engine/ProductDetail.aspx?catid=8-15-17-44-2146789930#proFlag What oil are you guys running in yours? The honda and champion call for 10-30 but the predator/loncin/whatever says 10-40. Not sure it make a big difference. I always ran 10-30 in small engines, sometimes straight 30w in lawn mowers. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 4:50:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
The predator has a bigger engine than the champion but might be a bit louder. What oil are you guys running in yours? The honda and champion call for 10-30 but the predator/loncin/whatever says 10-40. Not sure it make a big difference. I always ran 10-30 in small engines, sometimes straight 30w in lawn mowers.  I always run HDEO(heavy duty engine oil) in small engines. Usually a 10W-30 HDEO. Straight 30w is a good choice too if it's not cold. Regular 10w-30s are on the thin side. Not what you want when little air cooled engines are working hard in the heat.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 4:55:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FL4REAL:
I'm running Delo 15w-30. I always run HDEO(heavy duty engine oil) in small engines. Usually a 10W-30 HDEO. Straight 30w is a good choice too if it's not cold. Regular 10w-30s are on the thin side. Not what you want when little air cooled engines are working hard in the heat.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FL4REAL:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
The predator has a bigger engine than the champion but might be a bit louder. What oil are you guys running in yours? The honda and champion call for 10-30 but the predator/loncin/whatever says 10-40. Not sure it make a big difference. I always ran 10-30 in small engines, sometimes straight 30w in lawn mowers. I always run HDEO(heavy duty engine oil) in small engines. Usually a 10W-30 HDEO. Straight 30w is a good choice too if it's not cold. Regular 10w-30s are on the thin side. Not what you want when little air cooled engines are working hard in the heat. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 4:58:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
I'd be tempted to run 15w-40 in a hot environment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
Originally Posted By FL4REAL:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
The predator has a bigger engine than the champion but might be a bit louder. What oil are you guys running in yours? The honda and champion call for 10-30 but the predator/loncin/whatever says 10-40. Not sure it make a big difference. I always ran 10-30 in small engines, sometimes straight 30w in lawn mowers. I always run HDEO(heavy duty engine oil) in small engines. Usually a 10W-30 HDEO. Straight 30w is a good choice too if it's not cold. Regular 10w-30s are on the thin side. Not what you want when little air cooled engines are working hard in the heat. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 10:59:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Igloo87]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
I'd be tempted to run 15w-40 in a hot environment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
Originally Posted By FL4REAL:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
The predator has a bigger engine than the champion but might be a bit louder. What oil are you guys running in yours? The honda and champion call for 10-30 but the predator/loncin/whatever says 10-40. Not sure it make a big difference. I always ran 10-30 in small engines, sometimes straight 30w in lawn mowers. I always run HDEO(heavy duty engine oil) in small engines. Usually a 10W-30 HDEO. Straight 30w is a good choice too if it's not cold. Regular 10w-30s are on the thin side. Not what you want when little air cooled engines are working hard in the heat.Just because I had several quarts of the 15w-50 sitting around... and the oil should kick butt in a small air cooled motor... |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 1:09:26 AM EDT
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Im going to pickup the 3500 model tomorrow. Do I need to buy oil for it or does it come with it? Anything else I need to buy for it?
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Posted: 11/16/2017 4:38:59 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By icex:
Im going to pickup the 3500 model tomorrow. Do I need to buy oil for it or does it come with it? Anything else I need to buy for it? |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 12:54:28 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By icex:
Im going to pickup the 3500 model tomorrow. Do I need to buy oil for it or does it come with it? Anything else I need to buy for it? |
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Posted: 11/17/2017 8:34:56 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lowcountry:
Mine did not come with the torch spark plug but instead had a Bosch. I put in an NGK and bought an extra JIC. It ran smoother with the NGK. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lowcountry:
Originally Posted By icex:
Im going to pickup the 3500 model tomorrow. Do I need to buy oil for it or does it come with it? Anything else I need to buy for it? |
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Posted: 11/18/2017 6:45:38 PM EDT
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After comparing some models, I'd like to go with the Champion 2,000W inverter. Any reasons I should not?
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Posted: 11/18/2017 6:51:09 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By abnk:
After comparing some models, I'd like to go with the Champion 2,000W inverter. Any reasons I should not? |
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Posted: 11/18/2017 7:09:32 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By abnk:
After comparing some models, I'd like to go with the Champion 2,000W inverter. Any reasons I should not? |
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Posted: 11/18/2017 9:33:21 PM EDT
[#35]
Fired up my Predator 3500w while talking on the phone today. One push of the button. Friend on the phone didn’t notice.
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Posted: 11/19/2017 3:30:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By danpass:
Does it resolve your power requirements? (without adding a second one) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By danpass:
Originally Posted By abnk:
After comparing some models, I'd like to go with the Champion 2,000W inverter. Any reasons I should not? |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 9:55:14 PM EDT
[#37]
was there ever a word if this cap and oil funnel fit the HF Predator 2000?
 
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Posted: 11/19/2017 10:08:22 PM EDT
[#38]
I bought a Predator 3500 today and got it set up with a NGK plug, fresh fuel & Sta-Bil additive. I used the 19749348 coupon code for a $659 price out the door here in Oregon with no sales tax. Only logged an hour or so of run time, but it just hums along with a space heater plugged in pulling around 800 watts. I'll be adding some additional hours tomorrow, and will probably change the oil around 5 hours or so. The oil fill door doesn't seem to make any difference in the idle stability, so maybe they've corrected the airflow issue with some unseen venting?
I want to explore the option of doing a propane conversion after I'm comfortable with the reliability of this genny. I also might consider the natural gas fuel option. Does anyone know if the propane setup will also work with natural gas without any further modification beside connections? Seems like it should to me. |
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Posted: 11/19/2017 10:58:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Igloo87]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By draver:
I bought a Predator 3500 today and got it set up with a NGK plug, fresh fuel & Sta-Bil additive. I used the 19749348 coupon code for a $659 price out the door here in Oregon with no sales tax. Only logged an hour or so of run time, but it just hums along with a space heater plugged in pulling around 800 watts. I'll be adding some additional hours tomorrow, and will probably change the oil around 5 hours or so. The oil fill door doesn't seem to make any difference in the idle stability, so maybe they've corrected the airflow issue with some unseen venting? I want to explore the option of doing a propane conversion after I'm comfortable with the reliability of this genny. I also might consider the natural gas fuel option. Does anyone know if the propane setup will also work with natural gas without any further modification beside connections? Seems like it should to me. I was on National backorder for a cordless impact wrench until maybe 2/18...The store had one impact wrench in stock... Getting back to the story...they had three Pred 2000s in stock but zero Pred 3500s... |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 2:01:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRW:
was there ever a word if this cap and oil funnel fit the HF Predator 2000? www.amazon.com/dp/B06XVV5DHN I used the Yahmaha drain plug and it worked. The Honda has different sized threads. |
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Posted: 11/20/2017 4:40:16 PM EDT
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I bought my Predator 3500 yesterday and want to pass along some useful information I just learned.
Before purchasing it I did some research on my Costco Citi VISA card and was told by them that any purchase made with it for warrantied items comes with Citi's additional 24 months replacement warranty. This eases my mind considerably about the not too generous 90 days on HF gennys. I was seriously considering going back to add another year or two to my Predator, but that doesn't seem like it's needed. I expect to use this item off and on for the next few years, and if it lasts, great. If it breaks, OK, well I'll just start over with what is a replacement or a refund. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 9:54:53 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jefflebowski:
Fired up my Predator 3500w while talking on the phone today. One push of the button. Friend on the phone didn’t notice. They days we suffered through listening to the smoke and noise generators after the last two hurricanes had us both excited about a different solution. |
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Posted: 11/22/2017 8:29:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2tired2run]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By draver:
I bought my Predator 3500 yesterday and want to pass along some useful information I just learned. Before purchasing it I did some research on my Costco Citi VISA card and was told by them that any purchase made with it for warrantied items comes with Citi's additional 24 months replacement warranty. This eases my mind considerably about the not too generous 90 days on HF gennys. I was seriously considering going back to add another year or two to my Predator, but that doesn't seem like it's needed. I expect to use this item off and on for the next few years, and if it lasts, great. If it breaks, OK, well I'll just start over with what is a replacement or a refund. |
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Posted: 11/23/2017 12:04:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: draver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run: that's interesting I tried to file a warranty claim with a pool pump motor on my AA citi visa and was told fixtures, their generic term, were excluded. Edited to add: My best guess is that possibly components like the motor, especially if they are user installed might not qualify, however this is just conjecture on my part. |
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Posted: 11/24/2017 12:44:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By draver:
I asked specifically about my generator purchase and was told that it would be covered. Seems like I need to do a followup call for confirmation. I'll post an answer about what's covered or not. Edited to add: My best guess is that possibly components like the motor, especially if they are user installed might not qualify, however this is just conjecture on my part. |
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Posted: 11/24/2017 9:50:57 AM EDT
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Great deal at Cabelas today I grabbed one last year and it's even a bit better this year they're offering $50 in Cabelas bucks for your next visit plus it's 12% back today through active junky. If anyone needs a referral code just message me.
Cabelas Black Friday champion invertor |
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Posted: 11/24/2017 11:57:50 AM EDT
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I'm in the process of installing an interlock kit in my home for the Predator 3500 genset. I have ordered the gen output adapter and 20' 10/4 cable, I have the interlock, twin pole breaker, and 4 prong outdoor connector box.
I'm wondering if I want to buy a second inverter genny, and parallel them, how do I get the increased output to my panel? The Predator 3500 has a 120/30A out, but so do the parallel kits, which seems like they could only deliver 3600 Watts or so. (Am I wrong to assume 120v X 30A = 3600 Watts?) Would I have to step up to a parallel kit with a 50A out, and then get a new 6 ga. cable and house plug? Or, am I only going to get a boost in surge capacity with the 3600 Watt, 2 gen. combination? That seems like a big investment for a small gain to me. |
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Posted: 11/24/2017 12:02:33 PM EDT
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I just bought one of the DuroMax XP4850EH Hybrid Portable Dual Fuel generators on sale off of eBay. I had had it in my Amazon Wish List at $599 for a month or so after someone on here recommended it and setup a SlickDeals.net watch for it.
$299.99 shipped to my door. https://www.ebay.com/itm/171503114601 |
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Posted: 11/25/2017 8:47:03 AM EDT
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I've been doing my due diligence since there have been no suggestions about getting the parallel genny output actually into a house. The simplest solution seems to be use a Champion brand parallel kit with a 50 amp out, a 50 amp cable to a 50 amp wall input plug. The recommended wiring for this looks like 6ga, so I'd have to change that between the current plug and the breaker panel, but it's a short, straight run, so that's no big deal. Also would require a new breaker of course. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $250 or a little less, and probably 1-2 hours tops to replace existing hardware.
With all the chatter in this thread about parallel kits, I'm a little surprised that those that seem to be interested or actually using one, no one has mentioned needing this type of setup. Am I mistaken about the 30 amp/120 volt outputs only being able to deliver 3,600 watts to a breaker panel? Others have asked about connecting different brands or different power level gennys in parallel, but what good is a 3.5K + 3.5K or 2K + 3.5K set, if you can only get 3.6K to your home? What am I missing here? |
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Posted: 11/25/2017 9:54:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Handydave]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By draver:
I've been doing my due diligence since there have been no suggestions about getting the parallel genny output actually into a house. The simplest solution seems to be use a Champion brand parallel kit with a 50 amp out, a 50 amp cable to a 50 amp wall input plug. The recommended wiring for this looks like 6ga, so I'd have to change that between the current plug and the breaker panel, but it's a short, straight run, so that's no big deal. Also would require a new breaker of course. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $250 or a little less, and probably 1-2 hours tops to replace existing hardware. With all the chatter in this thread about parallel kits, I'm a little surprised that those that seem to be interested or actually using one, no one has mentioned needing this type of setup. Am I mistaken about the 30 amp/120 volt outputs only being able to deliver 3,600 watts to a breaker panel? Others have asked about connecting different brands or different power level gennys in parallel, but what good is a 3.5K + 3.5K or 2K + 3.5K set, if you can only get 3.6K to your home? What am I missing here? You need the bigger 50a parallel kit to get the full capacity out of both generators You just need 3 conductors for 120 volt. Hot, neutral & ground and the plug on the predator is a 3 prong, not 4 Can't hurt to have an extra conductor if you ever upgrade to 240 volt units. |
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