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Posted: 10/28/2017 12:17:31 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sheldon:
I ordered the HF one and when it didnt come right away I looked and never saw a confirmation email nor it didnt show on my account on their site......so I ordered the Ebay one since it was cheaper.......then earlier this week the HF one gets delivered........anyone in Southern Ca wanna buy it or I will try and get a refund.....unopened in box still. $444.98 Still havent had a chance to fire up the Ebay one. |
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Posted: 10/28/2017 12:50:47 PM EDT
[#2]
I stopped out at the local HF this morning and they had 2 of the 3500 watt inverter generators on hand. So with the 659.99 coupon that I had, one of them came home with me.
I'll get it unboxed and fluid's up this afternoon and see what it will do. If anyone wants a coupon for 659.99 I've only used 1 of the limit 3. So 2 left. Shoot me a PM. |
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Posted: 10/28/2017 5:08:30 PM EDT
[#3]
I stumbled across an app to measure db with your phone:
Sound meter for Android works pretty well, decible x is for iphone. Since it's a budget generator thread this guy wins:  $25 Generator From Lowes - The Final Outcome |
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Posted: 10/28/2017 7:40:24 PM EDT
[#4]
I ran my Predator 2000 for another 4.2 hours last night. Smooth and easy.
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Posted: 10/28/2017 8:21:12 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
(snip)... Since it's a budget generator thread this guy wins:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPCW-Kr1ZGE |
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Posted: 10/29/2017 12:18:50 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
You could also use one of the 12V lighter USB inserts. 2x 2.4A USB ports. https://www.amazon.com/Charger-RAVPower-Smallest-Adapter-Charging/dp/B071FHZRQN/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1508263744&sr=8-3&keywords=12v+lighter+usb+charger https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512mAD8jXIL._SL1000_.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
If you can live without the cigarette lighter socket, just unscrew it and put a USB charger in its place. They make them in the same standard size. All you have to do is connect the two wires and not reverse the polarity. 2x 2.4A USB ports. https://www.amazon.com/Charger-RAVPower-Smallest-Adapter-Charging/dp/B071FHZRQN/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1508263744&sr=8-3&keywords=12v+lighter+usb+charger https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512mAD8jXIL._SL1000_.jpg |
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Posted: 10/29/2017 12:40:29 AM EDT
[#7]
Has anybody used the Honda EU2000i with the DC cables? According to the manual, the DC output is only for charging car batteries, and even then, it doesn't have any way to detect when the battery is done charging so it will overcharge and cause a catastrophe if you don't have something to monitor the battery's charge and manually cut the output before it overcharges.
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Posted: 10/29/2017 12:03:24 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By two4spooky:
I had forgotten about this. The USB adapter seemed a simpler solution. Ordered the exact USB adapter linked above and tried it. No luck with the Q-A and a Samsung S6 as far "fast charge" goes, only standard rate. I tried both sockets, Eco-On, Eco-Off and the original USB again. I have to plug into the 120V w/wart to get the fast rate. Maybe one of the higher amp versions of USB adapter would do it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By two4spooky:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
If you can live without the cigarette lighter socket, just unscrew it and put a USB charger in its place. They make them in the same standard size. All you have to do is connect the two wires and not reverse the polarity. 2x 2.4A USB ports. https://www.amazon.com/Charger-RAVPower-Smallest-Adapter-Charging/dp/B071FHZRQN/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1508263744&sr=8-3&keywords=12v+lighter+usb+charger https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512mAD8jXIL._SL1000_.jpg |
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Posted: 10/29/2017 1:16:40 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By two4spooky:
Neat project. And yeah, that guy wins the budget contest. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By two4spooky:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
(snip)... Since it's a budget generator thread this guy wins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPCW-Kr1ZGE |
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Posted: 10/29/2017 1:27:30 PM EDT
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Hoooooly cow!
I finally caught up on this thread. I’ve been trying to get through it since I found it mid-Sept. Since starting this thread I’ve cleaned up 90% of Irma’s crap, had an MRI to diagnose not one, not two, not three, but FOUR herniated disks in my lower back, and my wife gave birth to our second son. Great info here, thanks to all who’ve contributed. I laughed, I cried, and apparently peed in banditman’s Cheerio’s...or someone did. (He seems to be especially curmudgeony in here  )
Now I need to convince my wife that the Chicom 7000W gas guzzler that I just bought (499 from HD), is somehow not sufficient, and needs to be supplemented with a 2000W inverter to round out our “independence” supplies. My goal is to be able to be completely independent from all outside assistance for a minimum of two weeks, in the unlikely event that a Cat 5 hits Orlando directly. The fuel efficiency and low noise of the inverters is my primary motivator here. In the last 15 years, we’ve thrown out the contents of our fridge/freezer four times. Since we shop at Costco, buying our meat in bulk, we could have paid for these generators several times over. The added bonus of portable a/c only sweetens the pot, as we were out of power for 8 days this time, with temps/humidity in the 90’s. |
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Posted: 10/29/2017 2:24:49 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jefflebowski:
Did he get a Generac 2k for $25?! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jefflebowski:
Originally Posted By two4spooky:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
(snip)... Since it's a budget generator thread this guy wins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPCW-Kr1ZGE |
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Posted: 10/29/2017 2:40:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Skibane]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlowInTheDark:
Has anybody used the Honda EU2000i with the DC cables? According to the manual, the DC output is only for charging car batteries, and even then, it doesn't have any way to detect when the battery is done charging so it will overcharge and cause a catastrophe if you don't have something to monitor the battery's charge and manually cut the output before it overcharges. The maximum charging current is too small to recharge most car or trolling motor batteries in a reasonable amount of time, anyway. Best solution is to buy a conventional AC-powered charger, powering it with your generator's 120VAC output. |
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Posted: 10/29/2017 5:10:11 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Skibane:
The maximum charging current is too small to recharge most car or trolling motor batteries in a reasonable amount of time, anyway. |
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Posted: 10/29/2017 6:22:02 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
I think he said about $50 for the generator and the repair parts. Jealous of the guy's skills, although at $25 it wouldn't be that hard to tear into it as an educational project if nothing else. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
Originally Posted By jefflebowski:
Originally Posted By two4spooky:
Originally Posted By 2tired2run:
(snip)... Since it's a budget generator thread this guy wins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPCW-Kr1ZGEHis experience with generac parallels mine. I wonder why he didn't just buy it and send it back for a new one? |
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Posted: 10/30/2017 10:11:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: hkx3]
[#15]
Ran my HF 2000W another 6 hours yesterday.
Thats a confirmed 38 hours of run time. 3x oil change. Will check oil tonight and see if the "exhaust" smell is back, or if that was temporary. New news, is with ECO Throttle off, fuel consumption seems very close to "on" ETA: Yesterdays load was 2x LED Flood Panels, 1 Small Fan, 1 BT Speaker, and circular saw as needed. |
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Posted: 10/30/2017 4:49:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: danpass]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
sure did, that video was part 3 of 3. Guy has skills. i would have waited a few weeks for the right parts but he did pretty good and got bonus points with his GF. His experience with generac parallels mine. I wonder why he didn't just buy it and send it back for a new one? pretty funny 
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Posted: 10/30/2017 6:41:28 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
8 amps is as much as you would want to charge a battery with. By contrast, a 3- or 4-step AC-powered charger could accomplish the same thing in just a few hours. During the bulk absorption phase, a typical 3- or 4-step recharging process will supply up to 20 percent (0.2C) of the battery's rated amp-hour rating (i.e., 20 amps for a 100 AH battery). Some AGM batteries can safely accept up to 0.5C. |
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Posted: 10/30/2017 10:45:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Desert_AIP]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gamma762:
8 amps is as much as you would want to charge a battery with. Usually C/10 to C/20 for lead acid. A group 24 is around 80Ah. A group 31 is 125 and could take 12-24A. AGM batteries can accept much higher charge rates. |
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Posted: 10/30/2017 10:52:11 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Battery capacity determines max charge rate. Usually C/10 to C/20 for lead acid. A group 24 is around 80Ah. A group 31 is 125 and could take 12-24A. AGM batteries can accept much higher charge rates. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By Gamma762:
8 amps is as much as you would want to charge a battery with. Usually C/10 to C/20 for lead acid. A group 24 is around 80Ah. A group 31 is 125 and could take 12-24A. AGM batteries can accept much higher charge rates. Not all. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 3:42:37 PM EDT
[#20]
Predator 2K or 3.5K. Sell me on both.
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Posted: 11/1/2017 4:34:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gamma762]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By two4spooky:
I had forgotten about this. The USB adapter seemed a simpler solution. Ordered the exact USB adapter linked above and tried it. No luck with the Q-A and a Samsung S6 as far "fast charge" goes, only standard rate. I tried both sockets, Eco-On, Eco-Off and the original USB again. I have to plug into the 120V w/wart to get the fast rate. Maybe one of the higher amp versions of USB adapter would do it? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By two4spooky:
Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
If you can live without the cigarette lighter socket, just unscrew it and put a USB charger in its place. They make them in the same standard size. All you have to do is connect the two wires and not reverse the polarity. 2x 2.4A USB ports. https://www.amazon.com/Charger-RAVPower-Smallest-Adapter-Charging/dp/B071FHZRQN/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1508263744&sr=8-3&keywords=12v+lighter+usb+charger https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/512mAD8jXIL._SL1000_.jpg https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13412 |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 4:49:26 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK:
Predator 2K or 3.5K. Sell me on both. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 5:55:23 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
It's been discussed in this thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By M4-AK:
Predator 2K or 3.5K. Sell me on both. Oiled it up and gave it a couple pulls to get the oil splashed around. Filled it up with gas, turned the knob, two light pulls to get the gas moving, then gave it a single pull and it fired right up. Nice and quiet. I could probably have a normal conversation while standing next to the unit. I plan on getting it some more hours on the clock this weekend. ok, back to sell you on both. Do it. You know you want to. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 5:57:14 PM EDT
[#24]
Got mine delivered from backorder last week, I've now bought three generators this year because of this place.
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Posted: 11/1/2017 6:09:21 PM EDT
[#25]
I've run my 2000 for about 10 hours now and it has been flawless thus far. Very quiet, easy to use, and plenty of power for my needs. Just changed the oil for the first time last weekend. First 10 hours made the oil pretty nasty, but I suspect that the oil won't be quite as bad when I change it after another 10.
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Posted: 11/1/2017 9:19:46 PM EDT
[#26]
Having trouble figuring out what interlock kit I need. Looking to run a single 2k watt generator into my breaker box.
Breaker box is square D qoc16u series g1. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 9:47:25 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dpm12:
Having trouble figuring out what interlock kit I need. Looking to run a single 2k watt generator into my breaker box. Breaker box is square D qoc16u series g1.  Attached File. Sounds like what I just did. Breakers needed to be adjacent to each other in the case of my box. I know, spaghetti. It was mostly done before I was born in 1969. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 10:02:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dpm12]
[#28]
Am I wasting time running a 2k watt generator into the whole house? Gas heat, gas stove. Only things I am looking to run are fridge, TV and heat in power outage. Figuring 2 out of 3 should work while the other is off. Nothing but LED bulbs so low draw anywhere else. Want to stick with the 2k watt to keep other costs to a minimum, will have to run 75 ft extension to make it work.
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Posted: 11/1/2017 10:19:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JoseCuervo]
[#29]
My plan for my 2k is lights with wall switches, charge the phones and computer, run the wifi and a TV or two. Heat would be the fireplace with campout cooking and bbq.
ETA: The power inlet / interlock is generally the same, you can always upgrade the genny for more power, to a point. I did a 30a inlet. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 11:50:16 PM EDT
[#30]
Regarding maintenance schedule on the 80cc side-plug engine(Undefined's term) in the 2K watt units, there looks to be small differences depending on brand. For checking valve clearance both 100 and 300 hours show up with some saying check after first 50 hours of operation. With the slant engine access looked easy enough plus I was curious quality wise as to what is inside. So...
  Easy breezy. Adjusting was a little more tedious. Especially on my unit, seems they used the same impact wrench to tighten the lock nuts as was used on the spark plug.  Bone heads.
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Posted: 11/2/2017 1:04:41 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dpm12:
Am I wasting time running a 2k watt generator into the whole house? |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 1:46:51 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalHeater:
I'd really like to see side by side to a Honda. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 7:03:20 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M4-AK:
Predator 2K or 3.5K. Sell me on both. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 7:50:44 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By two4spooky:
Regarding maintenance schedule on the 80cc side-plug engine(Undefined's term) in the 2K watt units, there looks to be small differences depending on brand. For checking valve clearance both 100 and 300 hours show up with some saying check after first 50 hours of operation. With the slant engine access looked easy enough plus I was curious quality wise as to what is inside. So... https://i.imgur.com/BOfZbzi.jpg
Bone heads.
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:22:22 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dpm12:
Am I wasting time running a 2k watt generator into the whole house? Gas heat, gas stove. Only things I am looking to run are fridge, TV and heat in power outage. Figuring 2 out of 3 should work while the other is off. Nothing but LED bulbs so low draw anywhere else. Want to stick with the 2k watt to keep other costs to a minimum, will have to run 75 ft extension to make it work. https://imgur.com/a/tjI2B Thanks guys, this has been a very informative thread. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:45:27 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dpm12:
Bumping this image. Hoping for input on what interlock I need. Thanks guys, this has been a very informative thread. 
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Posted: 11/2/2017 10:16:07 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryThanks
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Posted: 11/2/2017 10:39:23 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nowgrn4:
Impressed with the cast and machined rockers! My Honda eu2000i has rinky dink stamped steel rockers and plastic (Nylon?) cam drive gear. Though yours it's a solid older pushrod design it certainly looks more robust than my OHC Honda. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nowgrn4:
Originally Posted By two4spooky:
Regarding maintenance schedule on the 80cc side-plug engine(Undefined's term) in the 2K watt units, there looks to be small differences depending on brand. For checking valve clearance both 100 and 300 hours show up with some saying check after first 50 hours of operation. With the slant engine access looked easy enough plus I was curious quality wise as to what is inside. So... https://i.imgur.com/BOfZbzi.jpg
Bone heads.
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Posted: 11/2/2017 11:57:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JoseCuervo]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dpm12:
Bumping this image. Hoping for input on what interlock I need. Thanks guys, this has been a very informative thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dpm12:
Bumping this image. Hoping for input on what interlock I need. Thanks guys, this has been a very informative thread. Top row, on the right has kit Square D Kit K-5010 (125-200 Amp Main) Our Price: $149.95
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Posted: 11/2/2017 12:23:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo:
In another thread, I just saw this link posted: https://www.interlockkit.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1829 Top row, on the right has kit Square D Kit K-5010 (125-200 Amp Main) Our Price: $149.95 Check some measurements and maybe call them and even email them that picture. I think "centered over both columns" is key there. Good luck. https://cdn3.volusion.com/laezb.gkpek/v/vspfiles/photos/K-5010-2T.jpg?1459922742 Pricey.... https://www.interlockkit.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=K-5110 |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 12:53:02 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo:
In another thread, I just saw this link posted: https://www.interlockkit.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1829 Top row, on the right has kit Square D Kit K-5010 (125-200 Amp Main) Our Price: $149.95 Check some measurements and maybe call them and even email them that picture. I think "centered over both columns" is key there. Good luck. https://cdn3.volusion.com/laezb.gkpek/v/vspfiles/photos/K-5010-2T.jpg?1459922742 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoseCuervo:
Originally Posted By dpm12:
Bumping this image. Hoping for input on what interlock I need. Thanks guys, this has been a very informative thread. Top row, on the right has kit Square D Kit K-5010 (125-200 Amp Main) Our Price: $149.95
https://cdn3.volusion.com/laezb.gkpek/v/vspfiles/photos/K-5010-2T.jpg?1459922742 https://natramelec.com/genswitch/sd/sd3/sd3.htm @ $69 |
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Posted: 11/3/2017 6:54:36 AM EDT
[#42]
WOOT.com has Firman brand generators on sale today.
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Posted: 11/3/2017 12:45:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jefflebowski]
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Posted: 11/3/2017 4:20:13 PM EDT
[#44]
Converted my B&S generator to natural gas. Now need to leak test and see how it runs.
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Posted: 11/3/2017 5:27:49 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jefflebowski:
Heresy! 
Needless to say I was more than a little disappointed the first time I did a valve adjustment. No valve cover gasket either, just PITA to remove RTV. 
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Posted: 11/4/2017 3:28:55 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
WOOT.com has Firman brand generators on sale today. 171cc and comes with a 3 year warranty not a bad deal |
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Posted: 11/4/2017 4:09:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: danpass]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
same size engine as the champion https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100158-3100-watt-inverter/ 171cc and comes with a 3 year warranty not a bad deal Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2tired2run:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
WOOT.com has Firman brand generators on sale today. 171cc and comes with a 3 year warranty not a bad deal Firman W03083 Whisper Series 3000/3300 Watt Inverter Generator $599.99 [$999.00; 40% off List Price] |
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Posted: 11/4/2017 5:48:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Skibane]
[#48]
^ ...and also includes wireless remote start.
Not too shabby! As a brand, Firman is not nearly as well established as Champion (for example, their website is "still under construction"), but their products and prices sure are enticing. |
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Posted: 11/7/2017 7:52:53 PM EDT
[#49]
Has anyone found a source of parts for these predator style units?
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Posted: 11/9/2017 11:07:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gman82001]
[#50]
 Attached FileJust an FYI for Black Friday guys I jumped on this last year and made a killing using some points and then a rebate through active junky at the time. I’m going to grab me my 2nd one this year and the piece to link them together. |
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