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Link Posted: 6/10/2021 5:40:00 PM EST
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Got an old Kawasaki 1k watt.  Gen head doesn't produce power and parts are unavailable for it, but it runs great and has low hours.  Any thoughts on what could be done with it?
Link Posted: 6/10/2021 6:01:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Detached:
Got an old Kawasaki 1k watt.  Gen head doesn't produce power and parts are unavailable for it, but it runs great and has low hours.  Any thoughts on what could be done with it?
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Did you try reversing the field? I have seem that fix generators before that had no power output.
Link Posted: 6/10/2021 6:04:34 PM EST
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Originally Posted By riggins:


Did you try reversing the field? I have seem that fix generators before that had no power output.
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Had an electrician buddy from the railroad look at it an this was the determination.   I tend to let the smoke out of things.    It runs too good to throw away.
Link Posted: 6/10/2021 6:54:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Detached:
Got an old Kawasaki 1k watt.  Gen head doesn't produce power and parts are unavailable for it, but it runs great and has low hours.  Any thoughts on what could be done with it?
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"Flash the field":

Link Posted: 6/11/2021 11:15:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Detached:
Got an old Kawasaki 1k watt.  Gen head doesn't produce power and parts are unavailable for it, but it runs great and has low hours.  Any thoughts on what could be done with it?
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Is it an inverter unit?

ETA:check repairclinic for parts
Link Posted: 6/11/2021 8:26:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 2tired2run:


Is it an inverter unit?

ETA:check repairclinic for parts
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Not an inverter unit.  Probably from the mid 80's.     Already checked with Generator Guru.
Link Posted: 6/12/2021 6:56:31 PM EST
[#7]
So, did you follow the Flash the Field video, or not?
Link Posted: 6/13/2021 4:34:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SR712:
So, did you follow the Flash the Field video, or not?
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Not yet,  but it's absolutely worth a try,  thank you for posting that.
Link Posted: 6/19/2021 7:56:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Skibane:

"Flash the field":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB4lSoG-ZhY
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Interesting


Link Posted: 6/21/2021 1:26:51 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/21/2021 2:07:34 PM EST
[#11]
Anyone here done a extended run kit/mod on the 2K Predator Inverter? I would like to get the cap and whatever else is needed.
Link Posted: 6/22/2021 4:10:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: Avidrook] [#12]
I started the break in on the Mech Marvels gen today

I took the access panel off and it looks very much like the HF Predator 2K

It may be a tick louder than the Predator, not sure

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Easy start and ran 2.5 hrs on a splash of gas

I can't complain for $268 + tax





Link Posted: 6/22/2021 8:56:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: HK94dude] [#13]
Do we have an arfcom approved source for gas cans? Can you store gas in cheap plastic gas cans or do I need the fancy jerry cans? What about propane storage? Any issue's with 20lb bbq propane tanks?

Teach me the way wise arfcom
Link Posted: 6/22/2021 9:35:06 PM EST
[#14]
ARFCOM's FUEL CAN ORACLE
Link Posted: 6/23/2021 5:04:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HK94dude:
Do we have an arfcom approved source for gas cans? Can you store gas in cheap plastic gas cans or do I need the fancy jerry cans? What about propane storage? Any issue's with 20lb bbq propane tanks?

Teach me the way wise arfcom
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For gasoline I have 5 jerry cans from roverparts.com, they are the wavian/ valpro brand, which are the best current production ones as far as I know. In addition to those, I have plastic cans which seem to be doing just fine.

 The red jerry cans that they sell at HF I believe are the same manufacturer as wavian, but they don't have a nato opening, they use standard plastic can style.
Link Posted: 6/23/2021 9:18:08 AM EST
[#16]
I use, and always have used plastic cans, rated for gas of course



Link Posted: 6/23/2021 11:35:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AKCory762:
Damn those new predator 9500's look bad ass. $1700 tho. Anyone got a super coupon?
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They're now $1999.00. I was ready to jump at $1799.00 but they've been out of stock. My local store finally got some (1?)
and the price is $1999.00.
Link Posted: 6/23/2021 8:33:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: kcr121] [#18]
If you're looking for a higher-wattage portable generator, this may be the best deal going right now. $954 plus tax delivered for the same 240v/30a inverter output as the HF Predator open frame inverter generator but $250 less with a 2 year warranty vs the 90 day warranty on the HF.

Guessing it comes from the same Chinese factory as the HF Predator and it looks like the only functional difference is a smaller gas tank that I could live with (4.2 gal vs 5.9 gal)

https://www.amazon.com/WEN-GN875i-Transfer-Switch-Ready-8750-Watt-Generator/dp/B08STWSWLH/ref=asc_df_B08STWSWLH/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475773026601&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1091799324201388792&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007251&hvtargid=pla-1200255228604&psc=1
Link Posted: 6/23/2021 10:15:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By kcr121:
If you're looking for a higher-wattage portable generator, this may be the best deal going right now. $954 plus tax delivered for the same 240v/30a inverter output as the HF Predator open frame inverter generator but $250 less with a 2 year warranty vs the 90 day warranty on the HF.

Guessing it comes from the same Chinese factory as the HF Predator and it looks like the only functional difference is a smaller gas tank that I could live with (4.2 gal vs 5.9 gal)

https://www.amazon.com/WEN-GN875i-Transfer-Switch-Ready-8750-Watt-Generator/dp/B08STWSWLH/ref=asc_df_B08STWSWLH/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475773026601&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=1091799324201388792&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9007251&hvtargid=pla-1200255228604&psc=1
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No noise level specification for it - either on Amazon's or Wen's website.
Link Posted: 6/24/2021 4:48:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Quicky06:
I have a 3500 watt version of it. I love it. It will run my whole travel trailer with the a/c on without an issue.

During he 25 hour break in period I ran it at work powering a fan (1hp) for the majority of the time and went through 4 gallons of gas.

It is built like a Honda. As in Honda is suing them.
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A Chinese factory would NEVER copy someone else's proprietary design.
Link Posted: 6/24/2021 6:02:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:


I am more concerned about the startup wattage for the fridge, than the running wattage
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 Correct.

Do any of these inverters have built-in hookups to add in a battery into the DC circuit before the inverter?  
Because a big 12 volt lead acid battery hooked in there would take care of your startup current for compressors and many power tools.

That could be done yourself, if you know what you are doing.

If these generators don't have that feature yet, that would be a great thing to add into future versions.
Link Posted: 6/24/2021 6:04:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By M4-AK:

Amazon sells the WEN branded Predators.
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Originally Posted By Skibane:


The Predator is $800. It has a 90 day warranty.

The Champion is $950. (Home Depot has it for $850, but it's currently out of stock.) It has a 3 year warranty.


Amazon sells the WEN branded Predators.



Northern Tool Powerhorse is also the same generator.
Link Posted: 6/24/2021 7:49:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By VectorX:
Do any of these inverters have built-in hookups to add in a battery into the DC circuit before the inverter?  
Because a big 12 volt lead acid battery hooked in there would take care of your startup current for compressors and many power tools.

That could be done yourself, if you know what you are doing.

If these generators don't have that feature yet, that would be a great thing to add into future versions.
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Yamaha in unique in having that feature - and it's only on a couple models.

The inverter circuit in a typical inverter generator operates at considerably more than 12 volts (i.e. 48 volts) - so it wouldn't be as simple as connecting a 12 volt battery.
Link Posted: 6/24/2021 10:57:59 AM EST
[#24]
Maybe a UPS on the 120V output would get you to the same place?
Link Posted: 6/24/2021 8:50:42 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/25/2021 10:37:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:

When you're running a big engine like that, it's not going to be super quiet - that's for sure. Inverter or not...
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Originally Posted By Zhukov:
Originally Posted By Skibane:

No noise level specification for it - either on Amazon's or Wen's website.

When you're running a big engine like that, it's not going to be super quiet - that's for sure. Inverter or not...



The open frame units seem to be more about clean power and fuel savings because the inverter can cycle down for lower loads.  The noise specs I've see for other open frames aren't all that different from standard generators

Champion standard gen
74dba
https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100248-7200-watt-generator/

Champion open frame inverter
72dba
https://www.championpowerequipment.com/product/100520-8750-watt-open-frame-inverter/

The predator 9500 enclosed is rated at 67dba.
https://www.harborfreight.com/9500-watt-super-quiet-inverter-generator-with-co-secure-technology-57080.html

Link Posted: 6/26/2021 5:41:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HK94dude:
Do we have an arfcom approved source for gas cans? Can you store gas in cheap plastic gas cans or do I need the fancy jerry cans?
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Long term storage (say, over three months) is better in metal cans. There's Korean govt study on net that showed measureable
(but probably not significant) decrease in octane in plastic jugs, after thirty days, and significant octane decrease after several
months. The lighter aromatics can actually pass thru microscopic porosities in plastic jugs.
Link Posted: 6/26/2021 6:06:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SteveGa:


Long term storage (say, over three months) is better in metal cans. There's Korean govt study on net that showed measureable
(but probably not significant) decrease in octane in plastic jugs, after thirty days, and significant octane decrease after several
months. The lighter aromatics can actually pass thru microscopic porosities in plastic jugs.
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MFCs?  Or the plastic gas cans you buy at walmart?
Link Posted: 6/28/2021 5:19:42 PM EST
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Dunno what an "MFC" is.

The study covered typical (in US, anyway)  gas jugs in HDPE, and another type plastic, which
escapes me at the moment.  Both allowed evap/loss of lighter volatiles and
concomitant reduction in octane.

Just use steel for long term (year or more) and plastic for 3-6 months, in
'normal' temps. If I was keeping it in a shed in Arizona, I'd reduce planning
figures by half.
Link Posted: 6/28/2021 5:57:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SteveGa:
Dunno what an "MFC" is.

The study covered typical (in US, anyway)  gas jugs in HDPE, and another type plastic, which
escapes me at the moment.  Both allowed evap/loss of lighter volatiles and
concomitant reduction in octane.

Just use steel for long term (year or more) and plastic for 3-6 months, in
'normal' temps. If I was keeping it in a shed in Arizona, I'd reduce planning
figures by half.
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MFC
Military Fuel Can
The current issue plastic fuel cans made by Scepter of Canada, banned for civilian purchase in the US circa 2009.

HDPE is milk jug plastic, the same shit in the red plastic cans you get at Walmart.

Yeah, they aren.t for long term storage.

Store those 2.5 gallon water containers made with it for too long and find out what happens.
The dam's busted!
Link Posted: 6/28/2021 7:00:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: SR712] [#31]
MFC Cans (Canada) ***sigh***
They even make red.
https://dstactical.com/scepter-military-fuel-canister-20l/
Link Posted: 6/29/2021 11:50:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Desert_AIP:

MFC
Military Fuel Can
The current issue plastic fuel cans made by Scepter of Canada, banned for civilian purchase in the US circa 2009.

HDPE is milk jug plastic, the same shit in the red plastic cans you get at Walmart.

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Your MFC is HDPE, too.
Link Posted: 6/29/2021 11:59:03 AM EST
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Originally Posted By SteveGa:


Your MFC is HDPE, too.
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Gotta be a different formula though.
Or maybe the "crystalline"/"Amorphous" structure or thickness.

Link Posted: 6/30/2021 5:32:56 PM EST
[#34]
What replacement plug for 3500 Predator?

NGK BPR7ES
Link Posted: 7/1/2021 8:05:26 AM EST
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Some pages back, there was a comparison video posted between the Champion and the Predator, where I believe the Champion came out on top.
Is that still the "go to" ? Any real world updates or info?
Getting ready to pull the trigger, thanks in advance.
Link Posted: 7/2/2021 6:42:15 AM EST
[#36]
Tractor Supply has a 2200/1800 inverter gen on sale for $400.

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Link Posted: 7/2/2021 9:31:26 AM EST
[#37]
Has anybody actually SEEN a Predator 9500 in the wild? Like actually seen and laid eyes and hands on? They are unobtanium in my AO.

I have the 3500 and it has been rock solid for me as a backup, but with a 6 circuit switch. I am very strongly looking at the 9500 as a whole house backup solution. Mainly more for well and hot water versus AC at this point.
Link Posted: 7/2/2021 10:47:26 AM EST
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Link Posted: 7/2/2021 10:47:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: NostalgiaforInfinity] [#39]
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Way better deal
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just popped in to post that
ETA Fixed link: Champion  4250-Watt Inverter for $469
Link Posted: 7/2/2021 2:31:11 PM EST
[#40]
Just bought the WEN 2250W generator as a sort of small backup/all around generator. I was looking to see if anyone had a generator like this and has made an auxiliary fuel setup for it? Military generators have a setup that can be used to run fuel out of a 55 gal or larger aux tank. I am looking for something like this to setup with my new little generator (like 5 gal tank). There are a bunch of gas caps available for an aux setup but I can't find any that fit this generator. Wondering if anyone has experience with honda/yamaha gas caps fitting this model?
Link Posted: 7/18/2021 5:27:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: mitsuman47] [#41]
Pretty good deal here. Champion Duel Fuel 2500w inverter generator at Walmart for $465.

edit: claims 1850 running watts on gas and 11.5 hours at 25% load, and 1665 running watts and 34 hours on a 20lb propane tank at 25% load.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Champion-Power-Equipment-2500-Watt-Ultralight-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Inverter-Generator/361460031

I have two of their 2000w gens. One is dual fuel the other is gas only. Both are great units. Trying to talk myself down from the ledge on this one.
Link Posted: 7/18/2021 7:26:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By mitsuman47:
Pretty good deal here. Champion Duel Fuel 2500w inverter generator at Walmart for $465.

edit: claims 1850 running watts on gas and 11.5 hours at 25% load, and 1665 running watts and 34 hours on a 20lb propane tank at 25% load.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Champion-Power-Equipment-2500-Watt-Ultralight-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Inverter-Generator/361460031

I have two of their 2000w gens. One is dual fuel the other is gas only. Both are great units. Trying to talk myself down from the ledge on this one.
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Is this a good price for a Duel Fuel 2500?
Link Posted: 7/18/2021 8:01:19 PM EST
[#43]
^Yes.
Link Posted: 7/18/2021 8:07:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
Is this a good price for a Duel Fuel 2500?
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$444.71 at Lowe's with if you use your Lowe's card.

Sigh - Pulled the posting trigger too soon. Lowe's isn't dual fuel.
Link Posted: 7/18/2021 8:14:42 PM EST
[#45]
Why can I hardly find anything that will run off of natural gas?  I really want a nice tri-fuel.

Do people just convert their propane genny's to NG?
Link Posted: 7/18/2021 8:29:16 PM EST
[#46]
QUIETEST Inverter Generators Honda Generac & More!!



Link Posted: 7/24/2021 10:07:33 PM EST
[#47]
The 3500 Predator is now $869 at HF.

Would you buy that or the Champion Power Equipment 4500-Watt Portable Inverter Generator with Wireless Remote Start for $899 at WAlmart?
Link Posted: 7/24/2021 11:22:24 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 2009lockedOUT:
The 3500 Predator is now $869 at HF.

Would you buy that or the Champion Power Equipment 4500-Watt Portable Inverter Generator with Wireless Remote Start for $899 at WAlmart?
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I’d get the Champion 4500 Dual Fuel from Amazon for $890.  It fluctuates in prices but hovers around the $900 Mark.  3 year warranty.  

Link Posted: 7/25/2021 1:18:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By cucamelsmd15:
Has anybody actually SEEN a Predator 9500 in the wild? Like actually seen and laid eyes and hands on? They are unobtanium in my AO.

I have the 3500 and it has been rock solid for me as a backup, but with a 6 circuit switch. I am very strongly looking at the 9500 as a whole house backup solution. Mainly more for well and hot water versus AC at this point.
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No. The local store has been out forever. They might get 1 in every month it seems. They keep kicking the can on online ordering for them too. Was going to be June 12, then 22, then July 13, then July 23. Who knows.
Price went up too. I swear it was $1799 2 months ago when I first saw it, now it's $1999 and never available.
Link Posted: 7/25/2021 3:01:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout:
No. The local store has been out forever. They might get 1 in every month it seems. They keep kicking the can on online ordering for them too. Was going to be June 12, then 22, then July 13, then July 23. Who knows.
Price went up too. I swear it was $1799 2 months ago when I first saw it, now it's $1999 and never available.
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Originally Posted By ApacheScout:
Originally Posted By cucamelsmd15:
Has anybody actually SEEN a Predator 9500 in the wild? Like actually seen and laid eyes and hands on? They are unobtanium in my AO.

I have the 3500 and it has been rock solid for me as a backup, but with a 6 circuit switch. I am very strongly looking at the 9500 as a whole house backup solution. Mainly more for well and hot water versus AC at this point.
No. The local store has been out forever. They might get 1 in every month it seems. They keep kicking the can on online ordering for them too. Was going to be June 12, then 22, then July 13, then July 23. Who knows.
Price went up too. I swear it was $1799 2 months ago when I first saw it, now it's $1999 and never available.

Likely sitting in the shipping containers waiting to be unloaded.
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